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Women will soon have to offer threesomes to get any male attention, Red Piller predicts

More prophetic than we thought?
More prophetic than we thought?

On a somewhat lighter note than my last post, here is a lesson in, er, economics from the Red Pill subreddit.

pcartel

Yeah, I’m not sure that “logical” is the word you’re looking for there, champ.

If this screenshot is blurry — someone told me they were having problems with this — here’s the text:

thebears1986 67 points 1 year ago 

Women used to maintain a pussy cartel. To get any pussy you had to get married. Men want pussy so they got married. The cartel broke down a bit and women started giving access to pussy after engagement. Then the effort was lowered some more and the couple only had to be “going steady”. Next was “in a committed relationship” and eventually the “3 date rule”. Today you just swipe right on a smartphone.

Women currently sell into a hyper-competitive sex market where once they were buyers with a huge upper hand. The market is flooded and prices have dropped to $0.00. Gone are the days where they could demand any sort of commitment in exchange for access. Women still want men so they provide extra services to the men to compete for attention. Naked pics are extra services they use to keep up with the many women competing for the man they want. Either they send the pics or the guy moves on to the women who will.

I think the next major innovation will be women grouping together to offer threesomes to men in exchange for attention. Once naked pics become normalized they will have to do something. This is the next logical step.

H/T — I think someone on the Blue Pill subreddit linked to this recently; I can’t find the post

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AsAboveSoBelow
AsAboveSoBelow
4 years ago

Women still want men so they provide extra services to the men to compete for attention.

Like what, lawn care?

What a bunch of horseshit. No, horseshit at least makes good compost.

Zemyla
Zemyla
4 years ago

Yet again, we have folks who think that sex is something women give to men, rather than something two (or more) people have.

For my sanity, I’m going to stop reading the articles, and assume that’s what they’re about from here on in. I’ll probably be right 90% of the time.

crazy_liebling
crazy_liebling
4 years ago

So, in no way they could think that the reason why women have sex earlier is because well they just want to have sex without being committed to a jerk?
I mean, what is more empowering for women who love sex? I think having sex without the obligation to be married with one jerk or another jerk is pretty empowering…

ps: I know not all men are jerks (hey, we have David Futrelle ^^), but in my environment a lot of them are. So maybe if there are jerk-free men* here, come to my country asap! :p

* jerk-free, but also non-sexist, respectfull, no racist, not homophobic, not transphobic, no arrogant prick,… (am I too picky?)

Tyra Lith
Tyra Lith
4 years ago

It never even appears to them that many women might in fact enjoy sexual encounters with men, does it? they think we just ever use sex to somehow trap them.
I wonder if this has something to do with red pillers being shitty lovers who have never in their lives satisfied a woman.

Tulse
Tulse
4 years ago

Wait, what?

I thought that the RedPillers were all in a tizzy about all the sex they weren’t having with those terrible withholding wimmens, and now apparently it’s a buyers’ market?

Aerinea
Aerinea
4 years ago

These people think as little of men as they do of women, don’t they.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

But, wait, didn’t Roosh V. tell us Pussy Inflation was going to price men out of the market?* Is the price of pussy too damn high, or is it $0.00? I need to know so I can decide whether to tell my broker to buy or short-sell pussy.

*: Full credit–the link to the Roosh piece was at the bottom of this one, in ‘related links’. The juxtaposition was simply perfect.

dhag85
dhag85
4 years ago

Yeah, doesn’t this contradict their usual SMV theories?

EDIT: Ninja’d multiple times.

Malc
Malc
4 years ago

I just found this blog and I love it. I sometimes feel like I would like to sit down with people like our hero RedPiller above, from my perspective of a middle aged man, father of four, in a loving and sexual relationship; one of mutual respect and caring, and just: I don’t know….Have a talk about sex. What it really is, or can be. He’s obviously very inexperienced and it’s not looking too good for his future learning

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

a pussy cartel

I’ll wager that at least half the people reading this are visualising a smokey boardroom filled with cats in business suits.

AltoFronto
AltoFronto
4 years ago

And what if it turns out that it was never about the quality of his partners, and that our RedPiller was just terrible at sex all along? (very likely).

I think it would be neat if, like all the other things listed in the OP that have become more socially acceptable over the decades, poly relationships (not the fetishised 3some scenario OP imagines) were recognised as valid in the same way that monogamous relationships are currently.

But OP’s assumption that women would be falling over themselves “in groups” to offer him 3-somes for attention, instead of just dating each other, is adorable.

Saffron
Saffron
4 years ago

I don’t get it. What service do these Alpha Males offer that’s so amazing and valuable that I’m supposed to offer them discount pussy, two for the price of one, in order to get access to it?

Alpine, RN
Alpine, RN
4 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw- and you would not be incorrect! Although in my head at least one of the cats is wearing a Che tee-shirt :-p

Paradoxical Intention
4 years ago

Women used to maintain a pussy cartel. To get any pussy you had to get married. Men want pussy so they got married. The cartel broke down a bit and women started giving access to pussy after engagement. Then the effort was lowered some more and the couple only had to be “going steady”. Next was “in a committed relationship” and eventually the “3 date rule”. Today you just swipe right on a smartphone.

Or, or, stay with me here “thebears1986”, men used to shame women (and some still do) for having sex out of wedlock. The idea of being socially shunned is a powerful one. Some people will do anything, even abstaining from sex, just to be socially accepted by family, friends, ect.

Long ago, virgins were valued (and are still valued by such shitheels as TRPers) for men to have sex with, and men wanted to only marry virgins, so they told women that having sex out of wedlock was a “sin”. Of course, that didn’t stop bachelors from visiting brothels or having sex with someone else, because yay sexism!

Then, eventually, social stigmas let up, and women were able to get away with having sex earlier and earlier in their relationship with little to no Community Shunning, and now we have women who are having casual no-strings attached sex, just like men have done for the longest time with no social consequences besides the occasional gross person calling them a slut or a whore!

Not that those are really even insults anymore. I don’t fuck, have sex, or talk about my sex life with people who would call me any sexually degrading name with any kind of venom, so they’re just shaming me for the sex they assume I’m having. (Which must be awesome judging by how mad they are about it.)

I think this is a serious case of “I’m just mad the feeemales are having sex (but not with me)!” kind of sour grapes.

LinkxZeldaFan
LinkxZeldaFan
4 years ago

Shocking how these guys who hate women so much spend so much time thinking about having sex with them. It really is unbelievable.

Hedin
Hedin
4 years ago

Kind of in love with this post. I’ve struggled to put into words exactly why I hate so many analysis of human relationships using metaphors from economics. I really couldn’t ask for a better example of why that sort of thinking tends to suck.

Also, if I were a riot grrrl, I’d totally start a band called Pussy Cartel.

Paul
Paul
4 years ago

A lot of folks with the most superficial understanding of economics, based on a few nuggets retained from high school Econ 101, think this superficial understanding either actually can sum up all social interactions, or really ought to

Paradoxical Intention
4 years ago

Paul | January 28, 2016 at 4:29 pm
A lot of folks with the most superficial understanding of economics, based on a few nuggets retained from high school Econ 101, think this superficial understanding either actually can sum up all social interactions, or really ought to

A long-ass time ago, some commenters phrased it as “When an MRA has a hammer, everything looks like a nail”.

They see this solution to an economic problem, and they’re so fond of it, they apply it everywhere else in their life, regardless of if it fits or not.

And their favorite “hammer” is the “Femmucommunazi Conspiracy” Theory. Everything is Feminism’s fault, somehow.

LinkxZeldaFan
LinkxZeldaFan
4 years ago

“Women will start competing for men’s attention”…lol they wish. Not trying to sound sexist but women have always been the receiving ones in the heterosexual game, not the chasers. Not that there’s anything wrong with the latter. These “MRA” guys sound very deprived.

Viscaria
Viscaria
4 years ago

I definitely don’t want someone to marry me so that he (because it’s always a he, of course) can finally have sex with me, the only thing he’s ever found valuable about being with me. If someone who might have otherwise proposed will not propose if I have sex with him, then holy crap, thank goodness he won’t propose. Bullet effing dodged.

Turns out in a marriage you do more things together than lawn mowing and occasional boning.

LinkxZeldaFan
LinkxZeldaFan
4 years ago

@Viscaria
I know, I mean being desired is great but not when it’s the ONLY thing on these guys’ minds… >.>

Dr. NicolaLuna
Dr. NicolaLuna
4 years ago

Then, eventually, social stigmas let up, and women were able to get away with having sex earlier and earlier in their relationship with little to no Community Shunning, and now we have women who are having casual no-strings attached sex, just like men have done for the longest time with no social consequences besides the occasional gross person calling them a slut or a whore!

Omg, this. Forever this.

MRAs just really fucking hate women doing what we want to do. Getting tattoos? Remaining single? Having opinions? Casual sex? It’s all misandering! And one day we’ll all be very sorry we didn’t listen to them because… something something about cats and spinsters.

DreadFluffyRises
DreadFluffyRises
4 years ago

Reading all their stuff, I have one question. Women supposedly are committing misandry right and left because they hate men, right? So if they make a deal with a woman for sex, why would they include a guy?

I think we need a concussion protocol for MRA’s.

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

The pussy market sure is volatile these days! One day my vagina is an overpriced bus, the next, it’s worth $0.00. I’m going to have to do hourly stock market ticker checks so I can be sure to know at all times when my pussy value is up or down. I’d hate to buy high and sell low on accident.

In all seriousness, I’m sure the author of this post does not have women constantly sending nude selfies to him, desperate to keep his attention. He’s just feigning that this so. Partially to gain status among other misogynists. Partially as a neg. He’s so hopeful a couple of women will get spooked and offer him a three way. He knows it’s the only chance, however remote, he’ll get one.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

Alan:

I’ll wager that at least half the people reading this are visualising a smokey boardroom filled with cats in business suits.

Fat cats.

Bina
4 years ago

Women used to maintain a pussy cartel.

When was this? And who were the heads of it? Because cartels need someone in charge to run things, y’know.

To get any pussy you had to get married. Men want pussy so they got married.

Nope, and nope. If you want cats, you go to the Humane Society and adopt one, assuming that no strays have come to your door meowing for food. I’ve always been adopted by pussies, rather than having to look for one to adopt, myself.

The cartel broke down a bit and women started giving access to pussy after engagement.

When did this happen? I wonder if this dingdong is aware that people have had to get married, without engagement, because women got pregnant first. And that this has happened throughout history and long BEFORE history, too.

Then the effort was lowered some more and the couple only had to be “going steady”. Next was “in a committed relationship” and eventually the “3 date rule”. Today you just swipe right on a smartphone.

Uh, jackass? You ARE aware, I hope, that at whatever stage a relationship goes sexual, it has to be BY CONSENT, right? Because the mere act of swiping right doesn’t get you laid, you know. (Just look at all the Tumblrs dedicated to Morons On Tinder, for fucksakes.)

Women currently sell into a hyper-competitive sex market where once they were buyers with a huge upper hand. The market is flooded and prices have dropped to $0.00. Gone are the days where they could demand any sort of commitment in exchange for access. Women still want men so they provide extra services to the men to compete for attention. Naked pics are extra services they use to keep up with the many women competing for the man they want. Either they send the pics or the guy moves on to the women who will.

Oh yay, more of this tired old bogus Sexual Market shit. ZZZZZZZZZ.

And, BTW, lots of women are now refusing to send nudes because (a) they need to actually know (IRL!), like and TRUST the guy first, and (b) they know damn well that even if he passes the first wash, he could still use those photos to blackmail or otherwise invade their privacy. So, no dice. So, Market Analogy FAIL.

(There’s also the salient fact that if any man DEMANDS nudes, he’s just automatically not worth “competing” for. Plus, there are plenty of others out there who won’t make that demand because they’re just plain better people. But trust this bozo not to grasp that.)

I think the next major innovation will be women grouping together to offer threesomes to men in exchange for attention. Once naked pics become normalized they will have to do something. This is the next logical step.

In your DREAMS, bozo.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ moggie

Are you in town all week; I’d like to try the veal. 😉

(Obviously not really veal; it’s cruel)

reymohammed
4 years ago

“Spinster”, in fact, derives from when the spinning wheel was invented, enabling a single woman to supply four or five (usually male) weavers with yarn, eliminating the need to marry in order to live above starvation level. Given the option, most of these women chose *not* to marry, which at that time deprived the wife of every possible right over her person and property, and even, under commonlaw jurisprudence, of her legal existence. Thus, “spinster” became a term of opprobrium meaning “uppity woman”, and the whole propaganda program about “spinsters” being ugly and unhappy was brought to bear to dissuade women from this way of life.

EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

@Alan:
I wasn’t until you said that, but now I totally am.

On topic:
I actually once dated a woman who had internalised exactly this line of thinking. I didn’t have enough feminist knowledge at the time to understand that, so it just came across as massive insecurity bordering on complete distrust of other women, and an insistence upon performing any sex act that any other woman happened to mention. The atmosphere was toxic and I’m glad it ended.

I can’t imagine being a woman with a male partner who believed this nonsense. It must be awful. My full hugs and support to anyone who’s gone through it.

littleknown
littleknown
4 years ago

crazy_liebling wrote:

jerk-free, but also non-sexist, respectfull, no racist, not homophobic, not transphobic, no arrogant prick,… (am I too picky?)

That doesn’t sound picky. More like “not picky” or “having basic requirements of decency.”

A random thought: Of all of the times I’ve been accused of “White Knighting” on the internet (for suggesting that men are capable of not being assholes), I’ve never really stopped to consider how illogical this theory of manospherians is in the context of posting anonymously on the internet.

If my real goal was to maximize my chances of getting teh sex, and the idea is that women don’t like men who “know the truth” about feminism, then wouldn’t the best strategy be to be a feminist in person but an anti-feminist on the internet?

If, on the other hand, the idea is that women do like men who “know the truth” (and despise “white knights”), then why try to convert me? Why not count me in the win column for increasing their chances at getting teh sex?

Am I being too logical?

littleknown
littleknown
4 years ago

@Bina:

Yeah, I think his “the next logical step” is really just that women are soon going to be harassed by MRA-types who have progressed from assuming that demanding nudes is okay, to now assuming that demanding threesomes is okay.

Tulse
Tulse
4 years ago

And their favorite “hammer” is the “Femmucommunazi Conspiracy” Theory.

Actually, I think it is more like this:

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eeQSI-jo0E&w=420&h=315%5D

Bina
4 years ago

Yeah, I think his “the next logical step” is really just that women are soon going to be harassed by MRA-types who have progressed from assuming that demanding nudes is okay, to now assuming that demanding threesomes is okay.

BINGO!

See, this is where logic rests: on looking at patterns of things that actually happened, as opposed to things that only happened in the person’s fervid (and ideologically blinkered) imagination. It’s logical to extrapolate, based on prior (bad) behavior, that MRAs, PUAs, etc. will escalate from one unreasonable demand to another even more unreasonable demand. And since Red Pillocks tend to subscribe to an extremist, simple-minded brand of sexual capitalist ideology, it seems reasonable to assume that their next ridiculous and unrealistic expectation of women will outdo their last.

Meanwhile, the women will all be over in the other corner, laughing and pointing.

LinkxZeldaFan
LinkxZeldaFan
4 years ago

The “MRA” isn’t a real movement because they never go out and protest. It’s like, ‘Go. Go to the white house and demand our men and boys have more rights.’
They ignore real men’s issues like equal child custody and more support groups and focus on bashing women and feminists instead.

Epsilon
Epsilon
4 years ago

It’s not surprising whatsoever that every time these MRWimps discuss a “sexual market” with a pseudo-Darwinistic undertone that they *never* bring up a man’s market/biological worth. Specifically, if a woman has lots of casual sex, she’s cheap/free/worthless. So, what does that make men who have lots of casual sex? By that logic, *definitely* worthless.

My* parents and grandparents had several choice words for such highly promiscuous, sexist men, believe it or not. Many of them are too crass for the purpose of this discussion, but they do involve curse words and the word “cad.

*I don’t know about any one else, but mine were extremely consistent in moral/ethical standards for everyone. It’s actually a bit shocking, considering how they were raised.

Steampunked
Steampunked
4 years ago

Yes, swiping right will guarantee you sex and your sexist comments will never, ever backfire.

Bye Felipe!

Lea
Lea
4 years ago

One minute it isn’t fair that we ride the cock carosel and even uggos get love and now this?

This is like the mysterious prude/slut phenomenon, isnt it?

LinkxZeldaFan
LinkxZeldaFan
4 years ago

Why can’t these Redpill guys just be satisfied with porn? Why do they have to go after women in the real world? I thought porn did it better according to these douchebags…

Lkeke35
Lkeke35
4 years ago

Saffron:
Surely you must be aware that all that Alpha Gold Sperm must be worth something. (Or nothing at all, I could be wrong about that.😳)

Lea
Lea
4 years ago

I just want to sit this dude down and blow his mind.

Men post their cocks online all the time. They’re topless all over town in the summer. Thier eagerness combined with lack of manners when showing off their junk is actually annoying to many women and can be pretty creepy.

Ya know what? Good for the guys who post nudes and send appropriate dick pics. They get to do what they want to with their bodies.
Guess what?
Woman get to feel that in control of their bodies while naked too. We get to show whoever we want, whatever we want.

If public nudity and eagerness to have threesomes = selling out, then men seem to be selling out too.

Thank goodness people aren’t things and they don’t lose value ever.

Here’s a news flash: Some of those threesomes have more than one man in them and some have none at all.

anon
anon
4 years ago

tl;dr “I could totally have sex if I wanted to, I just don’t wanna!”

Kirbywarp
Kirbywarp
4 years ago

@Lea:

Women are the Quantum Slut; simultaneously in the position of having sex way too much and being way too stingey with their sex-bestowing.

Big difference is that, while in Quantum Mechanics you make a measurement in order to collapse the wave function, in Quantum Sexchanics the wave function collapses perpetually based on what annoy the angry misogynist most at the given moment.

Lea
Lea
4 years ago

Kirbywarp,
*nods*
It is known.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ Kirby

in Quantum Sexchanics the wave function collapses

Well that’s IKEA beds for you.

Kirbywarp
Kirbywarp
4 years ago

Blockquotes are good, y’all.

@Lea:

Men post their cocks online all the time. They’re topless all over town in the summer. Thier eagerness combined with lack of manners when showing off their junk is actually annoying to many women and can be pretty creepy.

It’s kind of incredible, isn’t it? These guys *want* to live in a world where they compete with each other over obtaining the objects called women, and yet they rage against women for apparently setting up such a system where they have to work so hard. They want to be the actors in life, but they get angry at the notion of having to do the acting.

LinkxZeldaFan
LinkxZeldaFan
4 years ago

@Lea “Here’s a news flash: Some of those threesomes have more than one man in them and some have none at all.”

That’s a problem because if lesbians aren’t having sex just so a straight guy can wank off to it or if they aren’t super-feminine attractive-type lesbians then these guys have no interest.

Steampunked
Steampunked
4 years ago

Actually, surely the easiest way to get male attention out of these guys would be to say something like:

“As a woman I have no country. As a woman my country is the whole world.”

Or possibly quote from Manfeels Park.

You’d get a tonne of attention. And it’s about the same type of attention you’d get from these specific guys as any other performance would generate.

Epsilon
Epsilon
4 years ago

@ Kirbywarp

Yep, women can’t ever “win” with MRWimps. Despite their insistence that they revere virgins and “humble married women”, they will either call all women who claim to be in such situations liars or prudes.

You have one kid? You’re a prude, ’cause clearly you’ve said “no” to your man way too many times, and you need at least three kids to be considered a woman. Infertile? You’re a defect; inferior. Adopted kids no matter the reason? Still inferior, and you need to give your man more sex. You have five kids? You’re super selfish for overburdening Your Providing Superior. What about having the “perfect number” of kids? Get back to the kitchen and stop complaining; you should be grateful for being in Your Providing Superior’s prescence.

Jamesworkshop
Jamesworkshop
4 years ago

Buddy, using two hands, does not a threesome make.

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