Almost three years ago, a feminist activist committed what many not-so-impartial observers apparently see as an unpardonable sin: she was less than polite to a small squad of Men’s Rights activists at a demonstration in Toronto. At least one of these gentlemen caught her outburst on video, and uploaded it to YouTube.
You know the rest: the video went viral, and the activist, a red-headed woman known as Chanty Binx (or “Big Red,” to the douchebag army), found herself suddenly transformed into “The Posterchild of Everything Wrong with Feminism,” as one of her haters put it. Her face has become ubiquitous in antifeminist memes, and she’s endured nearly three years of harassment.
Earlier this month, antifeminist YouTuber Sargon of Akkad — who makes his living pandering to some of the internet’s worst lady haters — posted an animated video by another antifeminist YouTuber in which an angry Islamist and an angry feminist sing a song explaining that they pretty much believe all the same things. (For some reason, this nonsensical theory is something that a lot of antifeminists have convinced themselves is true.)
The angry Islamist in the video is a familiar racist stereotype, complete with “funny” accent. [Correction: He’s evidently supposed to be a parody of this guy, known as Dawah Man, a legitimately terrible person you wouldn’t think atheists would have to strawman in order to criticize..]
The angry feminist, meanwhile, isn’t a generic figure; she’s an especially crude caricature of Binx, spouting nonsense that neither Binx nor any other feminist actually believes: the video ends with her encouraging the Islamist to rape her, because it’s not really rape if a Muslim does it, dontchaknow.
It’s a vicious, hateful little cartoon made worse by the fact that these words are being put in the mouth of a real woman who’s been the target of a vast harassment campaign for years.
Yesterday, Richard Dawkins, apparently seeing this horrendous video as a clever takedown of some brand of feminism that he must think actually exists, shared it with his 1.3 million Twitter followers:
Dawkins, a well-respected scientist-turned-embarrassing-atheist-ideologue, has become notorious for his endless Twitter gaffes. But this is plainly worse than, say, his famously pathetic lament about airport security “dundridges” taking his jar of honey; his Tweet contributed to the demonization of a real woman who’s already the target of harassment and threats.
The awesome Lindy West pointed this out to him in a series of Tweets and linked to one of my posts cataloging some of the abuse Binx got after the video of her went viral.
In a series of eloquent and angry Tweets, she made clear to Dawkins how and why he was misusing his huge platform and contributing to an atmosphere of hate online. Dawkins, alternately indignant and defensive, ultimately took down the offending Tweet, but not before making other Tweets that were nearly as bad. Dawkins can’t even do the right thing without being a dick about it.
Let’s watch Lindy at work:
After what was apparently an unsatisfactory response from Dawkins — I couldn’t find his Tweet, if there was one — West repeated and expanded upon her basic points. [EDIT: The unsastisfactory respose, West tells me, was that Dawkins posted a link to one of the videos of Chanty Binx at the Toronto demonstration.]
Well, that got his attention:
So there you have it: when informed that a tweet of his will almost certainly worsen the vicious harassment faced by a young woman whose only “crime” was being rude to a couple of MRAs in public, Richard Dawkins, a one-time winner of the American Humanist Association’s Humanist of the Year Award, replies by saying that “she deserves nothing more than ridicule.”
West replied:
Dawkins then decided to suggest that perhaps Binx was, you know, crazy:
Dawkins ultimately agreed to take down his Tweet linking to the execrable video. But he offered no apology. And he went on to suggest that just maybe Binx had … threatened herself.
We’ve seen this, er, argument before.
Does Dawkins have any conception of just how much abuse women like Chanty Binx get? If she were sending herself all the threatening and harassing messages she gets, she wouldn’t have time to eat or sleep.
And I wonder if Dawkins thinks she drew the caricature of herself that was used in the video he retweeted.
Thoughtful as ever, Dawkins made sure to remind his 1.3 million followers that Binx still deserved all the mockery they could deliver. Just not the death threats please!
And he begged his readers to think about the real victims here — those people, like him, who might have to curtail their mockery somewhat because their terrible, terrible fans might be inspired to hurt someone.
RIP, Richard Dawkins’ comedy career.
Is Dawkins actually unaware that by punching down at a woman who’s already been the target of a three year harassment campaign he almost certainly is contributing to the threats he claims to deplore? It’s hard for me to believe that he could be so naive. But the alternative explanation — that he knows full well that he’s encouraging the harassers — is even more disquieting.
One good thing has come out of this ugly episode today: The Northeast Conference on Science & Skepticism has un-invited Dawkins from its event this year. A post on the group’s website today explains:
The Northeast Conference on Science & Skepticism has withdrawn its invitation to Richard Dawkins to participate at NECSS 2016. We have taken this action in response to Dr. Dawkins’ approving re-tweet of a highly offensive video.
We believe strongly in freedom of speech and freedom to express unpopular, and even offensive, views. However, unnecessarily divisive, counterproductive, and even hateful speech runs contrary to our mission and the environment we wish to foster at NECSS. The sentiments expressed in the video do not represent the values of NECSS or its sponsoring organizations.
We will issue a full refund to any NECSS attendee who wishes to cancel their registration due to this announcement.
The NECSS Team
Good for them. The atheist movement needs to stand up to the haters and harassers in its midst, including those like Dawkins, who may not directly harass or threaten but who use their huge platforms to amplify and embolden this hatred and harassment.
It would be nice if Dawkins were to actually learn something — a little humanity, a little humility? — from this incident, but when it comes to the subject of feminism Dawkins seems incapable of taking in new information, much less learning anything from it.
EDITED TO ADD: And now, as if to prov what I just said in that previous paragraph, Dawkins is now second-guessing his decision to take down his tweet linking to the video, because GamerGaters are telling him that Chanty and I made up the evidence of the abuse she got.
NOTE: Lindy West has a book coming out soon. Pre-order it below!
CORRECTION: I added a bit noting that the Islamist in the cartoon video is supposed to be a parody of a real person.
EDIT: I added a line about Dawkins tweeting a link to a video of Chanty Binx at the Toronto demonstration.
It wasn’t just the horror of Dawkins retweeting yet another confirmation of his bizarre misogyny that depressed me…
It was that…
…
Did he even frikken watch that thing? It has all the subtlety and eloquence of a long fart; the cartoons are clearly ugly charicatures even if you don’t know who they are, the argument is just a juxtaposition of some words with some other words, and can he honestly say that he’s ever encountered a single person who thinks that Muhammad raping a child is great because that means pedophilia is cultural appropriation or that it isn’t rape when a muslim does it?
Someone could put an “Islamist” with a rude charicature of Dawkins as the “Scientist” and make the same damn song; just replace the “cultural association” bit with evo-psych justifications of have sex with just barely pubescent girls and so on.
How could anyone even watch this thing for two seconds and not know that they are looking at propaganda? How could anyone watch this thing for more than one second and decide that literally millions of people needed to see it as well, as the best source of information about these terrible straw-feminists?
God damn.
Funny how Dawkins thinks child rape is no big deal when white men do it.
Remember he called child molestation mild.
Richard Dawkins: demonstrating that you don’t need a religion to be a huge asshole.
I’ve recently learned that the world and we who inhabit it are complicated clusterfucks too. All of us. Even though I didn’t take psychology/sociology at university I’m deeply fascinated by how we think and relate to the things around us and the conclusion I’ve come to is that all we can do is fudge through life trying to do our best. We all have biases and egos and beliefs that we use as a lens for interpreting what we see, and can not ever look at things with a clean objective mind. (I’ve seen the term “Free Thinking” get banded about occasionally and the truth is that it just doesn’t exist.)
I guess for us its just a case of trying to preserve ourselves as a species and set of individuals for as long as possible. My most cherished values are love and wisdom, and I would like to see more of those things in this world. And I’ve just given an example of what I’ve been talking about in the previous paragraph, but then of course different people have different interpretations of what love and wisdom look like because as I said, we’re complicated clusterfucks. WHY WASN’T I BORN A CAT? THINGS WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER.
KIRBY!!! 😀 Dude I’ve been wondering where you’ve been! Good to see you.
Ugh: https://archive.is/QuZ2e
“I deleted it because I was momentarily persuaded, probably wrongly, that a human life (however vile) might be threatened.”
Anti-feminists who call themselves feminists are such a mystery to me. This is like when Scott Adams says something absurd and then claims that reality based feminists or reasonable feminists or something (I forget his exact turn of phrase) agree with him, by which he means Christina Hoff Sommers and literally no one else. Or when Hoff Sommers herself distinguishes “equity feminists” (among whom she counts herself) and the nasty “gender feminists,” when really those should be called “anti-feminists with pretensions” and “actual feminists,” respectively.
I’m interested now to see how often Dawkins has attacked religious groups that quote and support explicitly theocratic governance for giving ideological cover to extremists.
Not interested enough to trawl through his verbiage in search of it though.
Hey Sunny! It has been a while, hasn’t it? Good to see you too! Well, comment back at you anyway. I’ve still been skimming through comments every so often. 😛
EDIT: Oooh, edit function!
Hey David, you probably know about this anyway, but there’s a chance Dawkins might be starting to take advice from AVFM or the Honey Badgers. This popped up after he tweeted that he read your article about Chanty Binx and the harassment she’s been facing.
https://twitter.com/DL502/status/692682236215304193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
“I deleted it because I’d momentarily removed my head from my ass. Then I realized that was a mistake and put it back in.”
Hey Kirby. Good to see you again, big guy. How’s life been?
@sunnysombrera:
Pretty much exactly what you said. I’ve been thinking about relativist morality a lot recently, and the more I think about it the more it becomes apparent how ill-suited humans are to the task of being human. Our thought processes lapse into tribalism and violence easily, and privileged thinking seems almost hardwired.
All is well however, because:
1) If you were a cat then you couldn’t get cool tattoos and short hair to piss Valizadeh off.
2) Humans may be very bad at being human, but take heart: we’re good at building spacecraft, which means that if cats want to survive the eventual death of the solar system, they’re going to need some on-fleek humans.
Hey EJ! Life’s had its ups and downs, luckily more ups than downs recently. I’ve been commenting a lot on Disqus recently, actually, in the Religion section. Interesting times.
As for how bad we are at being human, that may be true, but we’re the best humans we know of so far. 😛 And we’re ever-so-slowly getting better at it.
My favorite quote about Dawkins:
Lindy West believes she is smart but she just told Dawkins followers that the feminist hate-icon is an actual person and that actual person already gets harassements.
She has told them feminists really does not like her face getting pictured.
This is just throwing more blood into the waters, really. The woman will get more harassement due to Lindy West´s informative answer than due to Dawkin´s original video…
You tell these frustrated, angry douchebags that posting videos and memes of this woman is punching down? Yeah, that will make them stop!
Well THAT is some impressive WTF right there.
@TheLulzWatch:
Wow, you are so right. Better not inform Dawkins at all about anything he might accidentally be doing, including literally adding to the harassment by tweeting the video, because that’s the much better option.
Any other brilliant suggestions? Like not talking about racism because it might possibly make racists throw temper tantrums?
@kirbywarp
Welcome back! 🙂
You know that by reporting the shenangians of Doosh V, Matt Forney or Heartiste, you inadvertently increase the harassment and death threats they are getting, right?
I´m pretty sure they do, probably more than this woman does and it will only increase more and more.
Both from women and from the men who tried to apply their brand of “self-improvement” and failed painfully as a result.
Majority of your readers understands why that is wrong, of course but there might be some who does not.
If one day someone kills or seriously wounds Doosh V and it turns out he or she read your website among others, will you keep it running?
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Countdown to Redpill Freakout in 3 …. 2 ….. 1……
Sorry for the OT, but I thought this was up WHTM’s alley
Hey dhag85, and thanks. ^_^
@ maghaven
Someone more cynical than me, might see this as an opportunity to sell three times as many dolls’ clothes; but not me.
The Friendly Atheist at Patheos is boosting Dawkins. The comments are . . . about what I expected, and I just don’t have the energy today.
One of my first discussions here at WHTM involved Lea telling me that Hemand “The Friendly Atheist” Mehta was a massive misogynist. Looking back at it, I’m ashamed that I hadn’t realised it at the time and am grateful to Lea for helping me see it.
This, though… this is just sad. I’m ashamed that I ever liked Mehta.
I liked Mehta, I liked Dawkins, hell, I liked Thunderf00t once upon a time. Embarrassing.