Almost three years ago, a feminist activist committed what many not-so-impartial observers apparently see as an unpardonable sin: she was less than polite to a small squad of Men’s Rights activists at a demonstration in Toronto. At least one of these gentlemen caught her outburst on video, and uploaded it to YouTube.
You know the rest: the video went viral, and the activist, a red-headed woman known as Chanty Binx (or “Big Red,” to the douchebag army), found herself suddenly transformed into “The Posterchild of Everything Wrong with Feminism,” as one of her haters put it. Her face has become ubiquitous in antifeminist memes, and she’s endured nearly three years of harassment.
Earlier this month, antifeminist YouTuber Sargon of Akkad — who makes his living pandering to some of the internet’s worst lady haters — posted an animated video by another antifeminist YouTuber in which an angry Islamist and an angry feminist sing a song explaining that they pretty much believe all the same things. (For some reason, this nonsensical theory is something that a lot of antifeminists have convinced themselves is true.)
The angry Islamist in the video is a familiar racist stereotype, complete with “funny” accent. [Correction: He’s evidently supposed to be a parody of this guy, known as Dawah Man, a legitimately terrible person you wouldn’t think atheists would have to strawman in order to criticize..]
The angry feminist, meanwhile, isn’t a generic figure; she’s an especially crude caricature of Binx, spouting nonsense that neither Binx nor any other feminist actually believes: the video ends with her encouraging the Islamist to rape her, because it’s not really rape if a Muslim does it, dontchaknow.
It’s a vicious, hateful little cartoon made worse by the fact that these words are being put in the mouth of a real woman who’s been the target of a vast harassment campaign for years.
Yesterday, Richard Dawkins, apparently seeing this horrendous video as a clever takedown of some brand of feminism that he must think actually exists, shared it with his 1.3 million Twitter followers:
Dawkins, a well-respected scientist-turned-embarrassing-atheist-ideologue, has become notorious for his endless Twitter gaffes. But this is plainly worse than, say, his famously pathetic lament about airport security “dundridges” taking his jar of honey; his Tweet contributed to the demonization of a real woman who’s already the target of harassment and threats.
The awesome Lindy West pointed this out to him in a series of Tweets and linked to one of my posts cataloging some of the abuse Binx got after the video of her went viral.
In a series of eloquent and angry Tweets, she made clear to Dawkins how and why he was misusing his huge platform and contributing to an atmosphere of hate online. Dawkins, alternately indignant and defensive, ultimately took down the offending Tweet, but not before making other Tweets that were nearly as bad. Dawkins can’t even do the right thing without being a dick about it.
Let’s watch Lindy at work:
After what was apparently an unsatisfactory response from Dawkins — I couldn’t find his Tweet, if there was one — West repeated and expanded upon her basic points. [EDIT: The unsastisfactory respose, West tells me, was that Dawkins posted a link to one of the videos of Chanty Binx at the Toronto demonstration.]
Well, that got his attention:
So there you have it: when informed that a tweet of his will almost certainly worsen the vicious harassment faced by a young woman whose only “crime” was being rude to a couple of MRAs in public, Richard Dawkins, a one-time winner of the American Humanist Association’s Humanist of the Year Award, replies by saying that “she deserves nothing more than ridicule.”
West replied:
Dawkins then decided to suggest that perhaps Binx was, you know, crazy:
Dawkins ultimately agreed to take down his Tweet linking to the execrable video. But he offered no apology. And he went on to suggest that just maybe Binx had … threatened herself.
We’ve seen this, er, argument before.
Does Dawkins have any conception of just how much abuse women like Chanty Binx get? If she were sending herself all the threatening and harassing messages she gets, she wouldn’t have time to eat or sleep.
And I wonder if Dawkins thinks she drew the caricature of herself that was used in the video he retweeted.
Thoughtful as ever, Dawkins made sure to remind his 1.3 million followers that Binx still deserved all the mockery they could deliver. Just not the death threats please!
And he begged his readers to think about the real victims here — those people, like him, who might have to curtail their mockery somewhat because their terrible, terrible fans might be inspired to hurt someone.
RIP, Richard Dawkins’ comedy career.
Is Dawkins actually unaware that by punching down at a woman who’s already been the target of a three year harassment campaign he almost certainly is contributing to the threats he claims to deplore? It’s hard for me to believe that he could be so naive. But the alternative explanation — that he knows full well that he’s encouraging the harassers — is even more disquieting.
One good thing has come out of this ugly episode today: The Northeast Conference on Science & Skepticism has un-invited Dawkins from its event this year. A post on the group’s website today explains:
The Northeast Conference on Science & Skepticism has withdrawn its invitation to Richard Dawkins to participate at NECSS 2016. We have taken this action in response to Dr. Dawkins’ approving re-tweet of a highly offensive video.
We believe strongly in freedom of speech and freedom to express unpopular, and even offensive, views. However, unnecessarily divisive, counterproductive, and even hateful speech runs contrary to our mission and the environment we wish to foster at NECSS. The sentiments expressed in the video do not represent the values of NECSS or its sponsoring organizations.
We will issue a full refund to any NECSS attendee who wishes to cancel their registration due to this announcement.
The NECSS Team
Good for them. The atheist movement needs to stand up to the haters and harassers in its midst, including those like Dawkins, who may not directly harass or threaten but who use their huge platforms to amplify and embolden this hatred and harassment.
It would be nice if Dawkins were to actually learn something — a little humanity, a little humility? — from this incident, but when it comes to the subject of feminism Dawkins seems incapable of taking in new information, much less learning anything from it.
EDITED TO ADD: And now, as if to prov what I just said in that previous paragraph, Dawkins is now second-guessing his decision to take down his tweet linking to the video, because GamerGaters are telling him that Chanty and I made up the evidence of the abuse she got.
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CORRECTION: I added a bit noting that the Islamist in the cartoon video is supposed to be a parody of a real person.
EDIT: I added a line about Dawkins tweeting a link to a video of Chanty Binx at the Toronto demonstration.
So Chanty Binx deserves continued mockery and ridicule over that one incident several years ago–
–OK, even if you believe that, why would you retweet that video? Does it actually represent her views? Like, at all?
I think not.
I’m all for the mockery of repugnant views, but Mr. Rational should at least make an effort not to disseminate strawmen.
I used to look up to Richard Dawkins and I remember feeling so betrayed during the Elevatorgate incident. As a man who prizes scepticism and intellectual thought, how could you make such atrocious comments towards a woman who only decided to express the creepiness of being propositioned in an empty elevator?
I no longer identify myself as an atheist due to the likes of Richard Dawkins, Phil Mason, and the rest of the misogynistic ilk that pervades the atheist movement.
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@Lady Mondegreen
I was going to point out the difference between mockery (the point of this blog), based on the horrible things people have actually said, and harassment based on someone yelling once. But, you beat me too it. Well put!
Chanty Binx, if you read this, please know that you have my greatest admiration and respect. I have followed the organized hate movement against you from the start feeling great concern for your health and wishing I could contact you to tell you many of us were thinking of you. I saw the original video, which had already been cut by the MRA who shot it, but which showed that you were attempting to read a statement regarding how men and women could work together to fix problems affecting us all. I saw how the group of men surrounding you verbally harassed you to the point that you told them to fuck off, and I watched them decide to magnify that a million-fold and distort it into some kind of wrongdoing, which it was not.
I watched for years as more edited and parodic videos and images were widely published to make you a symbol of feminist “wrongdoing”. Your only “wrongdoing” was to resist, to fight back when you were harassed, to refuse to kowtow. Many of us understand that this is the ultimate and real threat to male supremacists. This is the reason for the malevolence directed at you. I want to apologize for not doing more to defend you out of fear, and salute Lindy West for her bravery.
Richard Dawkins indicates that he detests some feminists for unknown reasons. The reasons are the same: some feminists won’t kowtow. They resist. They fight back. They are real threats to male domination. He is transparent, as are his handlers.
I wish you good health and a bright future.
Dawkins’s ego’s growth in size is commensurate with his output’s decrease in quality. The guy doesn’t learn, because he’s somehow gotten within his head the notion that he can do no wrong in practice. Ironic that an atheist would grow a god complex.
I really don’t like Richard Dawkins. He gives atheists a bad name with his intolerance.
There is no correlation between atheism and being an asshole, on both direction.
This sort of thing is, ironically, why I got into feminism. I’ve identified as an atheist for a while; I used to go along to atheist meetings and read atheist blogs, and it was a huge eye-opener to see that there were people whose atheist politics I agreed with, but who were total douchnozzles to women. After Rebecca Watson and Jen McCreight got as harassed as they did, I couldn’t carry on being a clueless privileged white STEM guy any longer.
That was the point where I first really understood that there are no simplistic “good guys” and “bad guys” and there is no clash of cultures, but rather a clash of humanity against itself. It isn’t about defeating anyone so much as admitting to ourselves that we as a culture and as a species are sick, and need therapy to unlearn harmful mental habits.
Lindy West linked to this site, so of course someone is now trying to poison Dawkins against David and linked to AVFM to do so. Dawkins replied, “Interesting. I’d like to hear detail on that. Thanks”.
He might be about to go full MRA.
@ bluecat
White guy science is all about considering all phenomena in a vacuum/sterile laboratory setting/through a mathematical model. Those are the ways to get to the Objective Truth. It’s easy to disprove feminism (and in fact everything women or poor people say) starting from first principles using white guy science, I’ve even done it myself as an exercise.
This is why the atheist movement is a fucking disgrace. I don’t know how we became co-opted by MRA dudebros and assorted reactionaries, but it happened. Now the self-proclaimed prophets of reason sic their frothing-at-the-mouth hate mobs on people (mostly minorities, of course) whose ideas are too uncomfortable for them to think about; excuse me while my irony meter explodes. Organized skepticism is going to have to seriously clean house or every decent human being they have left is going to abandon them – if the atheist movement continues it’s current trajectory it’ll merge with gamergate and the rest of the alt-right within the next couple of years. I can’t believe I actually used to like this guy… ugh.
Aw, this post left out one of the funniest parts of the Twitter exchange; it went a little something like this:
West: like literally what is wrong with you
Dawkins: “Like literally what’s the matter with you?” Why do you like it? And are you sure you need that “literally”?
West: lololololololoollololl oh my god you tried
West: nothing says “cutting edge intellectual” like mocking youth vernacular
And not only were his comments derisive and mean-spirited, they were also just stupid – indulging deeply, as they did, in an extended relative privation/’not as bad as’ type of logical fallacy. IIRC, people asked him to clarify – as in, ‘is this eminent man of science really debating politics like a 14-year-old YouTube commenter, or are we misunderstanding somehow?’ – and he just doubled-down on his bad logic.
Every day, I am more and more embarrassed by the fact that “The God Delusion” is what really made me an atheist.
I mean, I also read the Bible, plus extant gospels, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Talmud, etc, and that cemented it, so that’s what I tell people made me an atheist these days because any association with Dawkins is embarrassing at this point.
Lindy West, on the other hand, is the greatest.
I have to second Skepchick, BTW. It is absolutely incredible. I also want to offer a recommendation for Freethought Blogs. They have amazing bloggers like Greta Christina, Miri Mogilevsky, Heina Dadhaboy, Jason Thibeault, Alex Gabriel, Dana Hunter, The Digital Cuttlefish, Zinnia Jones, and others (they have a few you may want to avoid, as well, but the majority are awesome).
Well, I’ve been a feminist for over a decade, and I for one LOVE Chanty Binx. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with her. I actually wish more feminists were like her, at least online anonymously where they wouldn’t get harassed. Feminism isn’t supposed to be appeasing or conciliatory. It’s not only okay if men dislike feminism, it’s imperative.
Dawkins is not ready for what is about to go down. In a battle of wit, he is unarmed.
Yap. When it happened, at first I couldn’t believe that was really him. I own several books written by him and The God Delusion had been really important for me when I developed my atheist understanding of the world and of society.
And then the guy turns out to be an ignorant jackass who is so enamoured of himself that he can’t see past his own ego and realize that he doesn’t know everything.
Asshat.
Richard Dwakins is a disgusting bucket of pigshit. He thinks that being an atheist means he is Enlightened and has nothing left to learn. I looked at his twitter feed and it’s all people telling him how great he is and to pay no heed to the nasty feminist b*tches who are bullying and censoring him. How wonderful for Dicky Dwakins that he need never fear running out of toilet paper – there are plenty of people willing to thoroughly lick his shit-encrusted asshole till it sparkles.
This is the exact moment I decided Lindy West is teh awesome. I know many of you have heard it before, but it bears replaying.
Hmm…
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@ Mike
was it the “Well, I’ve been a feminist for over a decade” for you, too?
sigh. fucking Dawkins. he’s about as bad as nearly every asshole atheist youtuber (which seems to be at least 90% of them). worse, actually in that while i think he’s not QUITE as bad, he has a MUCH bigger audience.
I find Dawkins and their Neo-Atheist brethren no so different from the very religious figure heads that they claim to criticize, in as much as their arguments boil down to a tribal defense of The West, which was once called Christendom against the same “enemies” and using the same arguments. Simply removing any mention of, “The Lord” from said arguments doesn’t change them one bit.
Oh, and why do Neo-Atheist fear feminism so much?
David, you did a great job covering this multi-layered garbage heap. I didn’t know much about Lindy West before but now I’m a fan.
There’s one other layer of this that pisses me off and that’s the myth that feminists didn’t care about the sexual assaults in Cologne. This has been bouncing around the manosphere echo chamber and that’s what the video was about. Right after the Cologne attacks, racists and Islamophobes jumped on it to justify blocking Syrian refugees. I and other feminists pointed out that the identity of the perpetrators was unclear. Sure, out of the handful arrested some were refugees but the attacks appear to have been coordinated and no one knows by who. Attacks like this happened long before the refugee crisis. For all we know, it could have been instigated by people who wanted to discredit and keep out refugees. In the mind of the manosphere, not condemning refugees = condoning the Cologne sexual assaults.
https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/692685586277273600
Dawkins wrote about his reaction to being disinvited. He and his fanboys don’t have a clue. To him it’s just the fact that Chanty Binx is a real person and to his fanboys (including GamerGate) it’s a free speech issue. (No one is censoring him, assholes.) They conveniently overlook the racism, ableism, and rape joke in the video.
So, Dawkins’ followers on Twitter are now saying WHTM is a propaganda site, that David Futrelle is a liar out to ruin careers, and one of them even called him a serial harasser of women and linked to an AVFM article about Cassie Jaye.