So a little over a week ago, a drunken idiot in Miami attacked an Uber driver and trashed his car after being refused a ride. A video of the incident quickly went viral on YouTube; so far, it’s racked up more than five million views.
To the denizens of the Men’s Rights subreddit, this is somehow a Men’s Rights issue.
Because, you see, the drunken idiot in question was … a woman! And not just any woman — a young, thin, conventionally attractive woman who happens to be a fourth-year neurology resident a local hospital, and who also, apparently, happens to remind more than a few MRAs of every woman who’s ever turned them down for a date.
The headline given to the Men’s Rights subreddit post on the subject was basically catnip for angry misogynists: “Bratty rich doctor gets drunk and makes a huge fool of herself trashing Uber car, assaulting the driver then gets off when Police arrive.”
Naturally, the Mens Rights Redditors are furious that the woman — who’s been suspended from her job — isn’t going to spend the rest of her life in jail, because the “white knight” Uber driver decided not to press charges.
“Reverse the genders,” one commenter sniffs, “and [the charge] would be attempted murder.”
Actually, if you reverse the gender of the assailant, it would be misdemeanor assault and misdemeanor public intoxication. At least that’s what one drunken man was charged with after his much more violent assault on an Uber driver last November. Video of that assault got less than a tenth of the number of views the “bratty rich doctor” video got.
And that earlier video didn’t inspire anyone to vomit up an angry wall-o-text attack like this:
Welcome to the 21st Century Female indeed.
@Alan – I sometimes hang around general public boards. Violence against women or lefties seems to be becoming more of an acceptable joke. One thing I read about the women shot in PA – “maybe those bitches will learn not to say no.” I reported it and it’s gone. Guess I’m crushing free sppech.
@Alan
I got about halfway through one episode of Ancient Aliens (I was watching for the laughs) when I realized they were basically saying that ancient people (and sometimes not all that ancient) were basically incapable of doing the really awesome construction feats that were seriously impressive because they hadn’t yet been colonized and taught calculus. That’s when I gave up, disgusted. If they redid that series as Ancient Humans instead of attributing everything to extraterrestrials, I’d totally watch it, because damn were ancient people awesome and smart.
@kupo
It seems that a lot of those Reddit racists conviently forget that the ancient Chinese were scientifically and mathematically quite ahead of the Superior White Man’s thinking.
Crush away. I’m sick to death of Freeze Peach that puts people’s lives in danger, and I’d say that sort of thing more than qualifies. Our safety trumps some random internet asshole’s “freedom”, every time. Frankly, I don’t care what his “reasoning” is. I don’t care how many women have metaphorically shot him down — it does NOT give him or anyone else the right to do so literally. And anything that signals social approval for such behavior deserves a quick and unceremonious flush.
@ Bina
I’ve copied this across for the general thread I posted it in originally. You may find it interesting.
I’ve just watched an amazing documentary on BBC3*
It was about online trolling. They particularly looked at the mysogynistic stuff.
They tracked down some of the trolls and confronted them. Louise Mensch flew in from America to meet the one who’d sent porn and rape threats to her.
Oh, that Milo bloke was on too.
Here’s a link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06z68nn
(* BBC3 has had a few decent things on recently that Mamotheers might find interesting. Funny how it stops being crap just as they take it off air. Links below. TW for general horribleness)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047zl98
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03cgtx5
@Alan Robertshaw
Looks terrific. Can’t watch. I’m outside the UK, boo-hoo.
Also, “programmes” has me suspicious. That’s just a longer way to spell “programs,” right? WTF? (I kid.)
@kupo
Yep. It’s just a reskin of the old bias that anything intricate or interesting had to have been proof of ancient white people. On the bright side, at least it’s only spouted by crackpots and scammers now, rather than archaeologists and historians.
@Alan Robertshaw
Oh, it’s on Youtube! It really does look terrific. Can’t watch now but when I have some free time to commit to it, I will.
Thanks for mentioning it!
Maybe a lot of bad behavior of “professional women” and their air of untouchability comes from their economic class rather than their gender? It doesn’t matter what your gender is, if you’re wealthy, in my experience, you’re a huge jerk who is more likely to hurt people. :U
Sorry to anyone who makes over 50k a year here, though. It’s just that I’m in an environment full of rich kids who are favored over me and my family was wronged by a landlord. I also think the super rich shouldn’t exist because I find that amount of wealth obscene and immoral, so I’m a bit angry at the upper class.
Fabe
Speaking of whom …
I’m ashamed to say I knew nothing of this fantastic woman who had a google doodle the other day – would have been her 75th birthday. A cosmologist and a musician. Beatrice Tinsley. Died too soon.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/beatrice-tinsley-5-facts-you-probably-didnt-know-about-the-uncelebrated-astronomer-a6834771.html
I’m surprised there aren’t any videos of me riding around on my gold unicorn throwing cupcakes to the people, healing the sick and destroying evildoers with my laser eyes.
Because I totally do that all the time so why does nobody film it and upload it to youtube?
I ran into a young man who’s apparently an MRA or MGTOW in training on another social site who complained in a forum that women are nothing more than hypocrites who could get away with anything, including murder, just like our OP here. Then he launched into a tirade about how he messages women on this site, never gets a response in return, and generally came across as thinking that a woman owed him at least hook-up sex, if not a relationship because he went through the trouble of contacting her.
To make matters even more amusing (or appalling, depending on how you choose to view this train wreck), I looked up his profile, which was basically a personal ad and several pictures of himself. I saw why he was not getting any hits (well, besides using a social site as online dating). He’s an average looking guy on the pudgy side who hasn’t made much effort in the grooming department (scruffy beard, longer, slightly greasy hair, wrinkled shirt) and expresses an aversion to working out. He’s looking for “a girl who’s a nine or a ten,” “height between 5’6″ and 5’10”,” “no fatties, you must be the type who exercises,” and “very feminine, puts effort into her daily makeup, mani and pedi a plus!” Apparently the irony that he’s presenting himself as a slob while demanding a supermodel is lost on him.
(Not that there’s anything wrong with a hot person of any gender dating an average person of any gender. Or skinny person dating a fat one, for that matter. I just assume that to land any significant other, you need to have some basic grooming skills mastered and aren’t going to demand things of your S.O. that you’re not willing to do yourself.)
Yep, I do see him going his own way in a couple of years.
Hello.
I can not (and do not want to) read the reddit stuff, but i wonder how they consider the driver now. I suppose that because he does not press any charge, they are going to call him a beta or a mangina ?
On a different thing, i also wonder how they feel the election of a woman as president of Taiwan. Ah, i forget it is a non-white country, so they probably going to predict that all will go rogue…
Have a nice day.
“happens to remind more than a few MRAs of every woman who’s ever turned them down for a date.”
nice projection.
@saphira:
That’s hilarious.
re: the historical significance of white guys
I had this revelation recently, that to a decent approximation all people are Asian. Or that if a person is chosen randomly, you should bet that they’re Asian. Of course I’d been told the same in different terms several times before, but sometimes you get the experience of something really clicking into perspective when you express it in some way that is particularly meaningful to you.
They have us beat not only in volume, but they’ve also been at it forever. The history of mankind so far is really mostly the history of Asia, and to an increasing extent the history of Asia and Africa. Europeans and North Americans are just a (rather uncomfortable) subplot. Yet we’re not taught any of that at school; most western people live in blissful ignorance of the big picture and their relative importance in the grand scheme of things.
I get that it’s important and valuable to teach children the history of their own people, but it’s really gross how this is done in most countries. I’ve talked to people from a couple of pretty pale countries about what they were taught in history class, and how that has informed their world view. I haven’t heard of a place yet that teaches history without at the same time deliberately inculcating nationalism and exceptionalism. Colonialism and war crimes are left out, misrepresented or played down, and national grudges are passed on and amplified. Some countries are guilty of outright jingoistic propanganda.
The Germans are a refreshing exception. They have many of the same problems as everyone else, but it’s nice to see someone appropriately apologetic of at least some part of their history.
Dang, I came here for Lady Assassins, and what did I get? Just intelligent conversation on a depressing bit of manosphere manure and matters arising.
I literally cannot remember the last time I trashed a taxi and assaulted the driver. I’m obviously doing being female and professional all wrong: what did I bother getting my degrees for? It’ll all be different now I know I can get away with anything. Actually – no it won’t. It sounds like a horrible way to spend your time, and I’m glad if the woman in this case is really sorry and never does it again.
Internet “free speech” of the abusive variety often appears to me to approach incitement. Even if one believed the “it’s only satire” or “I was just joking” defence, not everyone reading it will see that. Some may take it for serious suggestions, and how is one to know?
I follow a Facebook page on British Politics which has just had a massive kerfuffle about whether or not someone who repeatedly wished gang rape on people who disagreed with them should have been suspended or not. Suspended, not banned.
I’m not sure I’d feel that bad about inflicting them on Mount Athos. They have to walk the walk, though, and take up a life of quiet contemplation. Preferably also a vow of silence.
I always get a kick out of the “I know what I’m talking about, I meet a lot of women” bits in these “women are terrible” just-so stories. It’s like the stupider cousin of “some of my best friends are black.”
Jesuismra,
What do you mean by projection? I’m trying to work out this makes sense, but can’t.
It seems like you’re making a typical “haha David can’t a date!” joke. But if that were the case, it still doesn’t really fit with projection. Not the way the statement is phrased. It would only be projection if he too was angrily going off on how evil women are.
Saphira,
Whenever I see someone brutally pick apart and woman’s appearance on the internet, I always assume he’s not much to look at himself.
Whenever I see wanks about how easy women have it and how we all have hordes of gallant suitors, I assume the same. That he’s average or lower on conventional attractiveness, but women are invisible if they’re not a “9 or 10.” When they claim “5 and 6s” unfairly get their choice of partners, I assume that women they see as average, are actually still quite attractive.
Way too many men think they should be dating a supermodel. It’s weird.
I can’t imagine a more fun and fulfilling date than with someone who’s only there out of fear for her life.
MRAs hate nothing more than the fact most men are better friends, lovers coworkers and dads than they are and women enjoy relationships with them.
They want everyone to be as miserable as they are.
I, too, was disappointed to find out this wasn’t about women assassins. I saw the image and initally thought it was going to be a gender-flipped version of Repo!The Genetic Opera.
Beware the Repo M’am!
Eh? Eeeeeeh?
David might have ten girlfriends, for all we know. He’s smart enough not to make that known here. I’ve never seen him talk about any woman in his life here, or indeed, anyone in his personal life. Because of course not.