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Professional women could kill men for fun and “would prob get away with it,” MRA warns

Woman doctor, possibly contemplating murder
Woman doctor, possibly contemplating murder

So a little over a week ago, a drunken idiot in Miami attacked an Uber driver and trashed his car after being refused a ride. A video of the incident quickly went viral on YouTube; so far, it’s racked up more than five million views.

To the denizens of the Men’s Rights subreddit, this is somehow a Men’s Rights issue.

Because, you see, the drunken idiot in question was … a woman! And not just any woman — a young, thin, conventionally attractive woman who happens to be a fourth-year neurology resident a local hospital, and who also, apparently, happens to remind more than a few MRAs of every woman who’s ever turned them down for a date.

The headline given to the Men’s Rights subreddit post on the subject was basically catnip for angry misogynists: “Bratty rich doctor gets drunk and makes a huge fool of herself trashing Uber car, assaulting the driver then gets off when Police arrive.”

Naturally, the Mens Rights Redditors are furious that the woman — who’s been suspended from her job — isn’t going to spend the rest of her life in jail, because the “white knight” Uber driver decided not to press charges.

“Reverse the genders,” one commenter sniffs, “and [the charge] would be attempted murder.”

Actually, if you reverse the gender of the assailant, it would be misdemeanor assault and misdemeanor public intoxication. At least that’s what one drunken man was charged with after his much more violent assault on an Uber driver last November. Video of that assault got less than a tenth of the number of views the “bratty rich doctor” video got.

And that earlier video didn’t inspire anyone to vomit up an angry wall-o-text attack like this:

Ovendice 20 points 4 days ago* Welcome to the 21st Century Female. I'm surprised there aren't hundreds of videos like this because this is how most women behave now. Because of the work I do (I've been doing corporate sales for almost a decade now) I have to deal with women, professional women at that, and most all of them are like this. Doctor's offices, dentist offices, hospitals, attorney's firms, insurance companies, real estate companies and on and on and these are supposed to be the 'best' women. Lol No, they're the worst; in fact the higher their status the more HORRENDOUS they are. It's that exact same level of insane arrogance that says, "I'm untouchable. I can say and do anything I want and no one can do anything about. Even if I'm just a secretary, but if I have a better job than you? I am GOD and you are an ant. And if you're male and you get into ANY kind of disagreement with me at all, I'll just call the police and say you were harassing me because anytime there is a dispute between a male and a female the male is INSTANTLY blamed and attacked and removed, as we've seen in those videos experimenting with a couple fighting in public. And of course because of VAWA. Hell, most of the time cops aren't even necessary, there's usually 5 white knights ready to jump right in and beat you to a pulp if you so much as smart off to a female. Meanwhile she can treat you and talk to you like a piece of shit, assault you, even kill you if she wanted to and would prob get away with it, thus why she calls the man a piece of shit in the video. And the very fact that men can do nothing to defend themselves or even complain is why she's doing it- she's untouchable and she is getting off on her power. In a way though, she IS right, he and most men ARE 'pathetic pieces of shit' because most men have ALLOWED it to get this bad, not even caring about their own rights! This of course is a direct result of 50 years of Feminism and ZERO accountability: THIS is what a Feminist looks and ACTS like!

Welcome to the 21st Century Female indeed.

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LindsayIrene
4 years ago

More proof that anti-feminist men are afraid that feminism might lead to women treating men the way men have treated women for the last few millenia.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

Am I the only person slightly disappointed that this post turned out not to be about lady assassins?

Miss Andry
4 years ago

It must suck to live in Bizarro World where men are instantly blamed and punished.

Ellesar
Ellesar
4 years ago

He’s surprised that there aren’t more videos of women behaving like this?

Somehow all the phones are out of battery when ALL the women kick off?

Lack of evidence for a wild accusation is quite telling, matey boy.

Lea
Lea
4 years ago

Hmmmm… In a world where white dudes shoot up schools, theaters and whole fucking countries when they feel like it, this is so ridiculous that there are layers of funny.

On the surface it’s just kind of silly. Then I realize that even if the author doesn’t believe his own bullshit, he thinks other people will. And either his fellow MRAs do believe him or they play along just to have some sort of hateboner circle jerk.

That’s funny.

magnesium
magnesium
4 years ago

There should be a rule that when MRA’s and other woman haters play the “what if the genders were reversed” game, they first must actually Google whether or not there have been situations in which the genders were, in fact, reversed. Because seriously every time there’s at least one. But then, that would require misogynists have the ability to recognize that the world exists outside of their own experiences and knowledge, so I won’t hold my breath.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

the higher the status the more HORRENDOUS they are

Sounds like a large number of people with high status, not just women. And since the vast majority of people with high status are men, and you actually get pretty far with status if you’re an entitled fart weasel, I’d say it’s far more common in men.

Viscaria
Viscaria
4 years ago

It’s funny because I saw the title of the post and wondered “will this be the definition of professional that includes me or the one that doesn’t?” and then

Even if I’m just a secretary, but if I have a better job than you? I am GOD and you are an ant.

Ovendice was nice enough to clarify. Yes, even us just a secretaries are guilty of these vile acts of misandry.

In other news, a few weeks ago I witnessed a man strike a woman as she tried to get on public transit; and, when she yelled out, claim that he’d only just tapped her shoulder to get her attention. Everyone – including, shamefully, myself – looked at anything other than their confrontation. No one intervened. No one even acknowledged it was happening.

Sweaty Examination Goblin
Sweaty Examination Goblin
4 years ago

That reddit post… seems to be capable of being summarized as “wahh wahh I can’t be a shithead to women without consequences! WAHHHHHHHH”

Wwaxwork
Wwaxwork
4 years ago

But they didn’t get their panties in a wad over the billionaire guy that did the same thing weeks earlier. I mean I’m not surprised they didn’t I just don’t get how they can be so obviously hypocritical and go sailing past the point which is maybe no one ever should attack anyone.

Lea
Lea
4 years ago

It isn’t as if entitled men ever get away with raping and murdering women and kids. Oh…wait…

kylagb
kylagb
4 years ago

Ha ha!! Alan Robertshaw. Hilarious comment!! 🙂

Jamesworkshop
Jamesworkshop
4 years ago

I would have pressed charges but really, had the situation be reversed, he’d have been praised in those quarters as an ambitious beta upriser.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
4 years ago

Shorter: Wasn’t it nice when women were so terrified of men, they were all polite and respectful to every man they met (as if such a time ever existed outside of the 1950’s sitcom)?

I think they actually believe that life will be better for everyone if women abandon feminism and resume a subjected role. That women would be happier with those limitations. They don’t understand that an instinct to be nice to everyone is driven by internalized fear or self-destruction of some sort, and that the “doting male husband/father figure” was as much a tyrant as anything else. I don’t understand how they can’t see it.

EDIT: oh man, that picture. She looks like she’s patiently waiting through the male nurse mansplaining the job she’s about to do while jerkbag onlooker bro is casually getting cigarette ash all over her scrubbies. I’d be contemplating murder too.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

Since she’s a woman, I suspect she’s going to face a lot more social consequences than the complaining MRAs realize. Boys will be boys, but the gals just can’t handle their booze, y’know what I mean?

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
4 years ago

I think it’s pretty safe to say that had the video been of a woman murdering a male Uber driver, she would have been charged with murder pretty quickly. You can’t argue that because someone didn’t get jailed for being a drunken mess, they wouldn’t be jailed for anything at all. Well, you can if you’re an MRA, I guess. Since that’s what passes for logic in their world.

Notice the guy ranting is in sales. I’m guessing the men he deals with have the same “ugh, a salesperson” attitude as the women. He just doesn’t notice because MRA confirmation bias is a powerful thing.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
4 years ago

“THIS is what a Feminist looks and ACTS like!”

Yup, that’s why there are so many videos out there of us beating on men.

Scaly Llama
Scaly Llama
4 years ago

@ Alan

Am I the only person slightly disappointed that this post turned out not to be about lady assassins?

No.

theluckyfrog
theluckyfrog
4 years ago

“White knights ready to… beat you to a pulp if you so much as smart off to a female”

From what I see of our culture, it’s mostly MEN who promote the “value” of cold-cocking anyone who dares to disrespect “their” woman.

ETA: Yeah, I guess that’s what he was saying. Where he still goes wrong is attributing this behavior to “white-knight” type men. It’s always the alpha male, Brad-Paisley-I’m-Still-A-Guy types that *I* see pontificating about how they must defend their woman’s honor.

Cerulean (Miss A)
Cerulean (Miss A)
4 years ago

I think MRAs conveniently forget that murder is still against the law, no matter who you are and what sex you identify as. Anything to paint feminists in a negative light, even if it’s totally nonsensical. WTF.

DS
DS
4 years ago

@LindsayIrene — Sorry, but I think your comment there is pretty shitty. It almost sounds like you’re a clever troll trying to subtly stoke the fire of misogyny by suggesting tacitly in your comment that meh, it’d be a-ok if women DID, in fact, turn around and subjugate women when, in fact, feminism is not about dominance but about egalitarianism. Probably you didn’t mean it to sound that way, but I could see how it would easily come across as suggesting that feminism = women doing to men what men have historically done to women, in which case yea, obviously men are going to be opposed to that.

We have to be careful with our wording if we ever hope to shut down the nonsense that is the MRM. Just sayin’.

But yea…this guy’s comment is way over the top. I’ve personally been in a situation where a “magnolia” (as opposed to a “Georgia Peach”) co-worker of mine (loud, pushy, bully of a woman whose fiancee dropped a couple thousand to fly out to Hawaii where she was working at the time, get a nice diamond ring, and propose to her only to have her say “Nope, ring’s not big enough” and send him packing, insisting that he come back a second time with a bigger rock; ug) accused me of assaulting her after she had been in my face yelling at me and I yelled back at her because she was being a pushy asshole.

Our manager was a woman, and she sat us both down, asked us to tell her what happened, heard both sides of the story, and decided from that and from what she knew about us what had happened. There was no evidence of assault (the lady had accused me of shoving her around, not like beating her or anything severe) and she just told us to cool our jets and give each other a wide berth. I thought it was a very fair decision, not at all a situation in which the “feeeeemale” got to treat me like a “piece of shit” and get away with it.

To be sure, the woman in question was a bully and she was treating me like a piece of shit, but she didn’t just get away with it, she got a pretty stern talking to from her female boss. So yea, I have firsthand anecdotal evidence that speaks to the contrary of what this d00d is saying, but then again, 95% of the stuff MRAs say is bullshit. The 5% that is true is usually quoting the story of what happened before doing a jacknife dive into total malarkey.

Stace
Stace
4 years ago

Aw! I could have been getting away with murder and nobody told me?! Thanks for nothing feminism!

This is why we need MRA sites. They are soooo informational! /sarcasm

LG.
LG.
4 years ago

DS – I totally did not read LindsayIrene’s post that way. It’s a pretty common analysis, actually, that privileged types can’t get out of a zero-sum headspace and are convinced that marginalized people just want revenge.

estraven
estraven
4 years ago

I think LindsayIrene’s comment was very clear on the idea that MRAs fear–FEAR–that women would treat them as badly as they’ve treated women all these years. Not that women would do it. MRAs have a knack for projection, as we all know.

berdache in a previous life
berdache in a previous life
4 years ago

Think the reddittors are confused, they’re thinking of Trump being able to kill and get away with it.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ LG & DS

I subscribe to the belief that even though as a WSM I have nothing to lose by feminism succeeding. Nothing gets taken away from me by everyone having the same breaks I get.

But would there be anything wrong in ‘turning the tables’ for a bit to make up for past injustices?

I’m not suggesting women suddenly get a free hand for domestic violence or are encouraged to murder men at the same rate men currently murder women, but what would be the problem with, say, having an all woman Supreme Court for the next hundred years or so?

The fact that people would probably say that such an idea is ridiculous illustrates what’s wrong with the current set up.

sevenofmine
sevenofmine
4 years ago

@ DS

Like others have said, MRAs and other reactionaries literally can’t brain the notion that anyone actually just wants what’s best for everyone. They’re very invested in the idea that feminists want to turn the tables and they’re scared out of their minds that we’re succeeding. Joke is, of course, on them because that’s not what feminism is about.

As for taking care with wording to avoid MRAs misunderstanding, that’s an exercise in futility. They will misunderstand, misrepresent, and outright lie about anything and everything whenever it serves their interests to do so. These are not good faith interlocutors. Pandering to their dishonesty does nobody any favors.

TinyAntsGoingToEatMe
TinyAntsGoingToEatMe
4 years ago

But would there be anything wrong in ‘turning the tables’ for a bit to make up for past injustices?

There’s certainly philosophical frameworks in which this would not be “wrong.” Personally, I don’t think you can “make up for” past injustices. There’s no cosmic scales that can be counterbalanced, so to speak. The only thing we can do is look towards improving the lot of the oppressed in the now and the future.

Certainly, if we happened to have an all woman Supreme Court for many years, it wouldn’t be wrong, but it doesn’t balance things.

AsAboveSoBelow
AsAboveSoBelow
4 years ago

sevenofmine wrote:

As for taking care with wording to avoid MRAs misunderstanding, that’s an exercise in futility. They will misunderstand, misrepresent, and outright lie about anything and everything whenever it serves their interests to do so. These are not good faith interlocutors. Pandering to their dishonesty does nobody any favors.

Yes.

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

What would be the problem with, say, having an all woman Supreme Court for the next hundred years or so?

In a vacuum, nothing. But if the reason the SC was all-women for a hundred years was due to systemic inequalities preventing men from being appointed, then that would be a problem. This is the issue with all of the simple role-reversal scenarios the MRAs try to use as “gotchas” – these things don’t happen in a vacuum. For the same reason that Obama becoming president didn’t suddenly mean whites were oppressed, and Trudeau’s 50/50 gender split cabinet didn’t end sexism in Canada. Role-reversal in a single scenario doesn’t mean anything if you ignore the underlying systems.

History Nerd
History Nerd
4 years ago

There are some women who are chronically abusive or violent. Like male abusers, they can’t be identified based on socioeconomic factors or personality or how they present. But there are much fewer of them than chronically abusive men.

So, um, aren’t feminists the people saying that rape and domestic violence laws shouldn’t depend on the gender of the perpetrator or victim? Feminists could’ve kept the status quo that, for example, only men can legally commit rape.

ScarlettAthena
ScarlettAthena
4 years ago

Yeah, no women ever did any shitty thing before feminism. Right. And men have always behaved so well.

Really, the whole premise of this guy’s message is wrong. He really probably just resents the fact that he cannot boss women around. He watches 1950s sitcoms and mistakes them for documentaries and thinks we would be just like Ward Cleaver ’cause he’s a dude.

I like this whole analysis about women feeling like gods. My guess is this is projection. He feels like he’s better than everyone and should be treated like a god. When he goes in to do his salesman schtick, people treat him like they are all equals and that they have some say over their lives. He mistakes them saying no to him or choosing a meeting time for being better.

History Nerd
History Nerd
4 years ago

I’m a victim of misdemeanor battery committed by another man (a drunk guy grabbed my shoulder). I asked the police not to press charges and to just give him a warning. I know a few other people who decided not to press charges for misdemeanor battery.

Courts really hate it if they know you assumed you’d get away with something because of your race or sex or whatever.

dhag85
dhag85
4 years ago

Sorry if I’ve missed something here, but what’s the evidence that this woman is a feminist?

Did they, once again, forget that they’re supposed to pretend as if they don’t mean “all women” when they say “feminists”?

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

History Nerd: Correct–the feminist position is equality under the law, in society and in politics. We currently do not have that, which is why it’s ‘feminism’ and not merely ‘egalitarianism’ or ‘humanism’.

********

DS: Note that LindsayIrene says that that is what anti-feminists fear, not what the goal of feminism actually is. It’s a double-slam, both against the status quo and against the delusions of the anti-equality position. There are similar role-reversal fears among white supremacists re: PoC’s, and among conservative Christians about atheists. While there will always be some among oppressed groups who wouldn’t object to a little eye-for-an-eye justice (it’s a human failing, after all), it’s not any part of the actual goals, stated or unstated, of the movements themselves.

zoon echon logon
zoon echon logon
4 years ago

Wild generalization based on personal prejudice and a single instance rather than actual statistics.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

It’s interesting (although not surprising) that the general consensus is people here just want equality to start from ‘year zero’ as it were.

No one is asking for a shift in power/opportunity beyond 50/50, even to redress the past imbalance. Feminists are effectively willing to ‘let us off’ for our historic transgressions so long as we play fair from now on.

Does sort of give the lie to the usual MRA accusations that feminists want to take over the world and send us all to the bon bon mines.

bekabot
bekabot
4 years ago

not just any woman — a young, thin, conventionally attractive woman who happens to be a fourth-year neurology resident a local hospital, and who also, apparently, happens to remind more than a few MRAs of every woman who’s ever turned them down for a date

Guys with IQ’s above room temperature would read this and get it and realize that they’ve dodged bullets galore and that Heaven has smiled on them consistently. MRA’s and PUA’s, OTOH, read and think of how often they’ve been told that crazy women are super hot and super easy and handily attracted by a few super secret decoder ring alpha male phrases, and feel dumped-over and cheated. Therein lies the difference between guys with actual brains and guys who have a grudge plus a really, really old and moldy list of things that women are supposed to like. Let him who already hath understanding, comprehend, and let him who hath no understanding scratch his head, get mad, and post again to Reddit. Amen.

Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
4 years ago

Why do I get the impression that this guy actually has dozens of perfectly normal, even pleasant encounters with women every week?

The dead giveaway was the “high status” phrase he used! Those women who weren’t good looking (aka “high status”) enough never even registered with him, of course.

Moocow
Moocow
4 years ago

Just to add to the fact that MRAs are disingenuous fuckballs (since apparently ‘stealing the word balls’ enrages them) the link on reddit leads to a nice little description. Aren’t MRAs always wringing their hands over things being ‘taken out of context’? Strange, they had no problem omitting the context on this one:

Eventually the driver gets out and says he’s calling the cops to get her out of the car. After a couple of minutes of the driver pretending to talk to the cops (im assuming he was pretending because they never showed up at first), the girl decides to reach into the front seat, grab his keys, and start walking away with his keys in her hands…. That’s where the video starts…

Ovendice, meanwhile believes that: “Anytime there is a dispute between a male and a female, the male is INSTANTLY blamed for everything.” So surely when the police arrived, they arrested the Uber driver, aka the male, right?

The police finally showed up after this video ends. The girl was in a taxi cab about to leave when the showed up and they had to stand in front of the taxi and tell him to stop. The girl eventually got up from the area the cops had told her to sit and wait, and tried to walk away from the scene.

Once in handcuffs, she then tried kicking some of the police officers on the scene. It was only when they put her in the police car that she started crying, apologizing, and claiming that she would lose her medical license (she claimed to be a neurologist) if she got arrested.

So much for ‘a man can do nothing to defend himself’ THE DRIVER DID SO SOMETHING, he called the cops! Like any reasonable person would do. And she was almost arrested.

I theorize that Ovendice is just pissed that the driver didn’t use this as a pretense to physically assault her in order to ‘get back at her’. MRAs like to project their misogyny onto dudes in these situations, seeing them as ‘pathetic’ for not enacting violent revenge fantasies (that they presumably would if they were in the situation)

The Uber driver was too good of a person and decided to take a cash settlement instead of pressing charges. In his words, “…she was crying (and) said (she) was sorry for everything.” I don’t want to disclose the amount the driver was paid, but can say he could only use the money to pay his cellphone bill and maybeee his cable bill.

It’s also important to emphasize: he took a cash settlement. It’s not like he got nothing out of the deal.

The fact that she apologized and felt guilty for her drunken idiocy also probably had something to do with it. But the concept of empathy is foreign to MRAs. Along with logic apparently.

Amazingly, this is all in link on the MRA subreddit. Meaning Ovendice literally didn’t read the text right underneath the video, or read it and purposefully distorted reality. Either way he can fuck off forever.

MissEB47
MissEB47
4 years ago

Alan

“Am I the only person slightly disappointed that this post turned out not to be about lady assassins?”

Nope! I was hoping it was going to be about lady assassins, too!

Lkeke35
Lkeke35
4 years ago

Alan:
#4 here. Ditto!
I too was very disappointed that none of this was about Lady Assassins.

Just for that tease, David, I’m going to go watch my copy of Lady Snowblood.

Bina
4 years ago

Sorry if I’ve missed something here, but what’s the evidence that this woman is a feminist?

She’s a doctor. In other words, she’s availed herself of the expanded educational and career opportunities now open to women, instead of “choosing” to stay at home like a good little submissive Hausfrau, which is the only kind of woman MRAs will accept as a legitimate feeeeeemale.

Oh yeah, and she got drunk. Which good Little Women also aren’t supposed to do. Therefore, FEMINISM!

jupitaur
jupitaur
4 years ago

“No one is asking for a shift in power/opportunity beyond 50/50, even to redress the past imbalance.”

When it comes down to justice, of course not.

But when it comes to redressing past imbalances in opportunity? Hell yeah. Hell to the yeah.

If I was passed over for promotion multiple times for being a ladytaur, then yes, I should get a better place in line for it now than J Random Dude. If I was left out of something for a long time unfairly because I’m a ladytaur instead of a ladysheep, then yes, I should get a better place in line for it now than J Random Sheeplady.

You can’t say the race is fair if some of the contestants are tied up behind a tree for the first half.

littleknown
littleknown
4 years ago

@Hambeast: That was beautifully said.

@Moocow: Thanks for all of the information. I would be perfectly happy with a small cash settlement in such a situation, whether the perpetrator was a man or a woman. But then, I’m also not very into the revenge thing. (Especially not the MRA “an arm, a leg, an ear, and an eye / for an eye” kind.)

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
4 years ago

Am I the only person slightly disappointed that this post turned out not to be about lady assassins?

[Insert Photoshop poster of Léon: The Professional here]

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ moocow

I’m glad the guy got something out of it, and I admire his easy going attitude about the whole affair. Something does sit a little uneasy with me though.

I think it’s the implication that people, who are in a position to be able to afford to do so, can buy their way out of trouble.

If he was going to be cool about it anyway, and the payment was just an additional ex gratia bonus, then fine. But if the payment was the determining factor I’m not so sure. That introduces a worrying wealth based system of justice.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

In my opinion, if the cash payment was a spontaneous proposition from the perpetrator, it’s a good clue she knowed she fucked up and was sincerely sorry. If it’s together with other signs that a lesson was learned, it would sway me from pressing charge to not pressing charge.

The fact she tried to flee the scene isn’t a good sign at all to me however.

Grr!Arrgh!
Grr!Arrgh!
4 years ago

I’ve had this professional degree (and have paid the licensure fees) for 10 years. You mean to tell me that I’ve also had a license to hunt the most dangerous game for a decade and I didn’t know it? Why was I not informed!?!?

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

Welcome to this 21st-century female, MRAs! You’ve got it exactly right. This female–and all other females–consistently insult, harass, and murder men.

The law can’t touch us ’cause reasons: our tricky internal reproductive organs plus our female intuition and we look so good and make you do foolish stuff and how come you can’t get in our pants whenever you want and not feel bad about using us and then there’s lesbians and your ex-wife who won’t talk to you and your daughter sides with her and you love your mother but sometimes you think that she thinks you’re a loser.

And there you are, lying on the sidewalk, murdered by a 21st-century female. Everyone just steps over you. The female will go scot-free. No justice. You’re dead.

Maybe you should cut back on the alcohol.

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