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PurplePiller: Afraid of acquaintance rape? Just make sure your acquaintances are hot!

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In PurplePillDebate — that surreal subreddit in which Red and Blue Pillers seek common ground — one alleged woman offers a rather original solution to the problem of acquaintance rape, telling women who are afraid of being raped by someone they know that they should only hang out with guys they think are hot. Because then if one of them decides to rape you, hey, at least he’ll be good-looking!

Here’s the, er, logic that led lauren_collins to this conclusion:

i haven’t read any rape stats and never met anyone who was raped as far as i know, but from what i understand, stranger rape is pretty rare. like a guy dragging you into an alley way. i’d imagine its especially rare in urban (city, not black) areas where there is a lot of foot traffic so stuff like that is harder to get away with. because the chances of someone walking by, seeing it, and intervening are much higher.

Today I Learned that stranger rapes only happen in dark alleyways, and also that women never have to walk through dark alleyways.

anyway, i’m assuming that most rapists are actually acquaintances / friends / relatives of the victim.

Well, ok, at least that bit is true.

so my question is why do you hang out with people you don’t wanna have sex with?

Oh dear. This isn’t going anywhere good.

like if you’re more likely to be raped by someone you socialize with rather than a stranger, doesn’t it make sense to only socialize with attractive men? so that if you are forced to have sex, it will at least be with someone you like.

Uh.

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How does that even

this question is specifically for women who think all men are potential rapists.

Yeah, that doesn’t really help.

edit – imagine if you were forced to work construction because your education level prevented you from getting an office job, wouldn’t it make more sense to live in a city with warm weather? like ya, you’re doing work you don’t wanna do, but it could be worse. i don’t wanna work outdoors, but i’d rather work outdoors in san diego than anchorage. just like forced sex is bad, but its not as bad if the guy is good looking.

Yeah, that doesn’t really help either.

To their credit, most of the commenters in the PurplePillDebate thread are at least vaguely horrified by Lauren’s er, logic, though it is perhaps a little telling that the only person in the discussion who openly proclaims himself to be a Red Piller thinks that “this would be a sensible policy for women to follow. But of course ‘muh freedoms’.”

I honestly can’t tell if Lauren is a troll or not. She’s posted a bunch of rather boring and non-trolly comments in other threads, which suggests she’s either real, or a very dedicated troll.

Of course, she also posted this thing that totally really happened yeah sure:

one time my ex and i were smoking a joint in his backyard when his neighbor smelled it, came up and yelled at him for it, and later told his mom about what happened. his mom grounded him for a few weeks, he more or less got over it, but i was furious. his neighbor was an older guy, kind of fat, poorly groomed. and i thought basically “how dare this 3 raise his voice to an 8?”

Uh, really?

so i defecated in my hand and rubbed it all over the neighbor’s car windshield.

You did what now?

Ok, maybe Lauren is a troll. Or a monkey.

H/T — r/TheBluePill

 

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Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

This just seems to be an MRA equivalent of Viz Magazine’s ‘Top Tips’; but without the humour.

loquora
loquora
4 years ago

Because it’s only bad if the person forcing you into unwanted sex is ugly!

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Pardon me while I be sick for a moment and then feel nothing but contempt for this person for the rest of the day.

Jimbtho
Jimbtho
4 years ago

This just seems to be an MRA equivalent of Viz Magazine’s ‘Top Tips’; but without the humour.

Yep, spot on.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

Sure, if I don’t have the education or skills to get any job other than construction I can absolutely afford to pack up and move myself to someplace warm.

Also, I only ever hang out with people who are bangable. That way, if my friends punch me in the face, at least they look good doing it.

Bina
4 years ago

so my question is why do you hang out with people you don’t wanna have sex with?

Uh, because the vast majority of people are people we might have to deal with, or just enjoy being with, in a nonsexual manner? Because sex isn’t everything, and thus sexual desire shouldn’t be the driver of our every human interaction? Just a wild and random guess.

like if you’re more likely to be raped by someone you socialize with rather than a stranger, doesn’t it make sense to only socialize with attractive men? so that if you are forced to have sex, it will at least be with someone you like.

Uh, that doesn’t help. I can like someone, even like him A LOT, and still not want to have sex with him.

Also, I’ve stopped liking guys — even attractive ones! — who pressured me for sex that I didn’t want. How about THEM apples?

this question is specifically for women who think all men are potential rapists.

Oh boy, a straw-feminist question! I haven’t had one of those in AGES!

edit – imagine if you were forced to work construction because your education level prevented you from getting an office job, wouldn’t it make more sense to live in a city with warm weather? like ya, you’re doing work you don’t wanna do, but it could be worse. i don’t wanna work outdoors, but i’d rather work outdoors in san diego than anchorage. just like forced sex is bad, but its not as bad if the guy is good looking.

Okay, this is just absurd. Not everybody can afford to move to places they’d like to be, or work at jobs they’d like to do. You’re assuming that everyone has a huge banquet of options to choose from, when in fact their options are limited by a lot of things. Including, above all, the money that would give them some mobility in the first place.

Same goes for picking the people they wind up interacting with. Often, you’re not given a choice. You have to grit your teeth and bear the person at the office who keeps leaving religious pamphlets on your desk, or the friend who likes TV shows you don’t, or whatever.

And by that token, the same goes for guys you hang out with. Not everyone you find attractive is going to feel the same towards you, and vice versa. See how that works?

i haven’t read any rape stats and never met anyone who was raped as far as i know

Well, there’s your problem, then.

Perhaps you should bone up on those things you haven’t read, and meet those people you haven’t met.

And before you do that, just stop suggesting daffy “solutions” to problems you clearly don’t understand. YOU’RE NOT HELPING.

JoeB
JoeB
4 years ago

You should cross streets in the richest part of town because if you get hit by a car it’ll at least be a fancy one.

zoon echon logon
zoon echon logon
4 years ago

I’ve often thought it would be fun to troll as an MRA. Just say the most absurd thing you can think of, then keep getting more absurd until people stop believing you’re for real. Bonus points for how many real MRAs you can get agree with you. MRAs are so full of shit that I bet it would take a while. But, of course, you’d eventually have to say some legitimately horrible stuff about people who are victims of horrible crimes, which is not worth a few internet yuks.

Noseflower
Noseflower
4 years ago

so i defecated in my hand and rubbed it all over the neighbor’s car windshield.

Well now it all makes sense, amirite?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

anyway, i’m assuming that most rapists are actually acquaintances / friends / relatives of the victim.

so my question is why do you hang out with people you don’t wanna have sex with?

http://33.media.tumblr.com/e37e1cb1af7c4cf3e57ad9bde289722f/tumblr_inline_mzsb7vacpV1s4dy2l.gif

I don’t even want to know if that was deliberate.

iknklast
iknklast
4 years ago

edit – imagine if you were forced to work construction because your education level prevented you from getting an office job, wouldn’t it make more sense to live in a city with warm weather? like ya, you’re doing work you don’t wanna do, but it could be worse. i don’t wanna work outdoors, but i’d rather work outdoors in san diego than anchorage. just like forced sex is bad, but its not as bad if the guy is good looking.

Okay, this is just absurd. Not everybody can afford to move to places they’d like to be, or work at jobs they’d like to do.

The other ridiculous thing about this? There are a lot of people working in construction who work in construction solely because they want to, and prefer working outdoors. We’re talking here like there is no choice in working in construction. It isn’t really the original statement I’m objecting to, since that person is obviously making idiotic analogies, but the fact that everyone here seems to take that at face value. We have a construction school at the college where I teach, and the students there are very enthusiastic and want to go into construction, they are not forced into it by bad circumstances. Not all people want desk jobs.

Monzach
Monzach
4 years ago

The levels of wrong in the OP are just…off the charts. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone actually say out loud that you should really only spend time with people you’d like to have sex with. I’m about 99% sure that the person who wrote the OP can’t actually believe the stuff they wrote, although there is that nagging little doubt…

Marzi
Marzi
4 years ago

Wow. That’s just such a horrible thing to say. Everything about it is so wrong. The idea is just so weird. Really they just constantly try anything to deny that rape is wrong.

Scaly Llama
Scaly Llama
4 years ago

O/T @loquora

Lurve that gif! Are you a MSTie too?! Did you support Joel’s Kickstarter to bring it back? So exciting!

Johanna Roberts
Johanna Roberts
4 years ago

Wow… that was a large steaming pile of something. Not worth the pain in my hands to write a rebuttal so just going to shake my head sadly.

Falconer
Falconer
4 years ago

@JoeB

You should cross streets in the richest part of town because if you get hit by a car it’ll at least be a fancy one.

I snort-laughed in the most unattractive way.

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
4 years ago

So, this might be a coincidence and not some sort of code, but Lauren Collins is the name of an actress. She played Paige on Degrassi the Next Generation. Paige was acquaintance raped by a guy who she considered hot. I don’t know if that means anything and I don’t know if I am a loser for knowing the names of Degrassi actors off the top of my head.

Bina
4 years ago

The other ridiculous thing about this? There are a lot of people working in construction who work in construction solely because they want to, and prefer working outdoors. We’re talking here like there is no choice in working in construction. It isn’t really the original statement I’m objecting to, since that person is obviously making idiotic analogies, but the fact that everyone here seems to take that at face value. We have a construction school at the college where I teach, and the students there are very enthusiastic and want to go into construction, they are not forced into it by bad circumstances. Not all people want desk jobs.

True dat. And some people even like working outdoors in cold weather, but trust our ditzburger OP not to get that, either.

You should cross streets in the richest part of town because if you get hit by a car it’ll at least be a fancy one.

I’m just picturing the ER doctors and what they’d say to this:

“Welp, this one’s DOA.”
“Yeah, but at least they managed to get the imprint of a Mercedes hood ornament on their chest beforehand.”

Brownie points in heaven, no doubt.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
4 years ago

Okay, so Lauren…
– only seems to have awareness of rape culture though statistics that she hasn’t read, instead of as a daily experience,
– believes that you can choose all of the people you associate with, instead of being forced into situations by work and responsibilities,
– her ‘ex’ being grounded by his mom was, like, the worst thing ever you guys,
– and an appropriate response to this is windshield poopin’,
– and, of course, she uses the MRA trend of grading people on a ten point scale according to their appearance.

So, based on that, I’m gonna guess that Lauren is wearing the privilege goggles of… 14 year old boy? Something like that.

Anyway. Gross.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/2062337/mst3k-is-not-amused-o.gif

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

inklast: It wasn’t that everyone was accepting that part of the analogy; it was that by the time they got to that particular error, they’d already become too burned out to pick on that wrongness, too.

That said, your complaint raises yet another problem–by definition, no one ever wants to be raped. (Rape fantasies exist, yes, but only as a role-play thing, not an actual desire to have sex against your will–or to rephrase it as a tautology, not a desire to have sex against your desires.)

*******

Another note–being raped by someone you find attractive and a suitable potential partner (if the situation arises in a mutually consensual fashion) is often considered worse than being raped by someone you would never consider it with. I can’t count the number of times I’ve spoken with women who felt some degree of self-blame for their rape, specifically because they thought they might have been giving ‘signals’ to the guy. The betrayal of trust factor is infinitely higher, here, since the victim’s guard is usually lowered when around someone they trust and are considering in that light.

In short, to hell with this shit, and may the person who wrote it step on all the Legos.

Bina
4 years ago

So, this might be a coincidence and not some sort of code, but Lauren Collins is the name of an actress. She played Paige on Degrassi the Next Generation. Paige was acquaintance raped by a guy who she considered hot. I don’t know if that means anything and I don’t know if I am a loser for knowing the names of Degrassi actors off the top of my head.

Whoa. I’d say that given the subject matter, it’s a tad more than merely…significant. It pretty much blows the OP’s whole idiotic point out of the water, is what that does. Because if you can consider someone hot and still find “sex” with them undesirable, well…it kind of makes the whole “high-value partner” hypothesis of not-rape a bit silly, doesn’t it?

I now wonder if this person meant to be trolling the Red Pillocks, and is just waiting for someone to go “Hey, wait a minute…” If that’s the case, them being pillocks and all, that person’s got a long wait ahead of them.

Lea
Lea
4 years ago

I want to fire that shit into the sun. I cannot even.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 years ago

If people only ever hung around people they wanted to have sex with, no one would ever work, go to school, volunteer, or have social hobbies.

Also, mathematically, it doesn’t work. Hot people would have tons of less attractive people wanting to hang around them – but they wouldn’t want to hang around the less attractive people lest one of them turn out to be rapey, so they’d look for hotter friends, who in turn wouldn’t want to hang around them lest they get raped, and so on. It would end up being one big hotness pyramid scheme.

The only way it would work is if people of equal attractiveness associate with one another. Or a mixture of differently attractive people who aren’t shallow and sex-obsessed. Then you’re back to square one, where it’s almost as if the hotness of the perpetrator *isn’t* a mitigating factor in rape, assault, catcalling, and other crimes against bodily autonomy.

Nequam
Nequam
4 years ago

The newest MRA hero, folks– or might be if he wasn’t suspiciously dark.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/01/22/police-investigating-deadly-shooting-of-woman-in-homewood/

Bina
4 years ago

one time my ex and i were smoking a joint in his backyard when his neighbor smelled it, came up and yelled at him for it, and later told his mom about what happened. his mom grounded him for a few weeks, he more or less got over it, but i was furious. his neighbor was an older guy, kind of fat, poorly groomed. and i thought basically “how dare this 3 raise his voice to an 8?”

so i defecated in my hand and rubbed it all over the neighbor’s car windshield.

COOL STORY, BRO.

Oh sorry, “Lauren”. Who is totally a girl, yup. Because girls who are so status-conscious that they would quantify people’s looks in numbers are totally into pooping in their own hands and rubbing it on windshields, and can get away with doing so unnoticed.

(Trollmonkey it is.)

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
4 years ago

I find the whole idea of “Hotness” as a factor in a relationship to be annoying. I have a poor gauge of hotness, apparently – I tend to rate everyone i see as being ‘pretty attractive’ and at this point in my life I don’t talk about it at all, since my friends and relatives get all shocked and argumentative about it. The idea of rape or sexual harassment being okay ‘because they’re hot’ is disgusting and bizarre to me. I really just don’t get it at all.

I for one support the Degrassi Hypothesis. Anyone familiar with the show know whether she had a friend who got caught for smokin’ a joint or something?

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/552/744/89b.gif

BritterSweet
4 years ago

because the chances of someone walking by, seeing [a rape], and intervening are much higher.

I’ve heard enough depressing/rage-inducing news stories to seriously doubt that.

iknklast
iknklast
4 years ago

That said, your complaint raises yet another problem–by definition, no one ever wants to be raped.

Exactly. My point exactly, though you said it better and more clearly. Some people want to work in construction, no one wants to be raped (though I think some of these red pill folks think women secretly want to be raped and will fall in love with the guy who does. Yuck.)

LindsayIrene
4 years ago

WTF is up with this idea that people only work construction because they’re too dumb to get an office job? I’ve known really smart construction workers and really stupid office drones. Hell, one of my favorite teachers left the educational field and went into construction because it paid more than teaching. And the idea that construction is an unskilled trade needs to be tied into a gunny sack with rocks and tossed in a lake.

Ellesar
Ellesar
4 years ago

This kind of ‘thinking’ seems to be related to the ‘he wasn’t even ugly, he didn’t need to rape’ kind of ‘thinking’. I read the latter the other day – really pissed me off, obviously.

Mostly because it equates ‘ugliness’ with being the kind of shithouse human being who would force someone.

Also because it is implying that rape is ‘simply’ sexual urges that get out of control.

And then because being attractive is subjective, and I have often said how attractive I think a particular person is to have someone else totally disagree.

One thing that REALLY stands out is that if you are the kind of person who could force someone you automatically become deeply unattractive.

Having regular features and good teeth (just a couple of markers of attractiveness) really count for shit when you are an abuser.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

iknklast
January 26, 2016 at 10:57 am

That said, your complaint raises yet another problem–by definition, no one ever wants to be raped.

Exactly. My point exactly, though you said it better and more clearly. Some people want to work in construction, no one wants to be raped (though I think some of these red pill folks think women secretly want to be raped and will fall in love with the guy who does. Yuck.)

Not quite. Some of them may have fantasies about rape, but like I pointed out, fantasy-rape is not rape. In women, especially, it adheres more to the long disproved notion that rape is about sexual desire run amok (in men who have rape fantasies, whether as victim or rapist, it’s more likely to be obviously about power and control).* It has as much to do with reality as my daydreams about being able to control the lottery machines telekinetically.

*: I will confirm that this is anecdata from a relatively small sampling of reading and conversations with people who have such fantasies, and in no way a statement of the psychological science of such things, of which I am fully cognizant of my ignorance.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 years ago

It’s certainly possible to be deeply attracted to someone – whether an acquaintance, a first date, a relationship, or a marriage – and still get raped by them. Just because a woman may have fantasized about someone, or briefly desired them, or even slept with them (once, twice, a thousand times – the number doesn’t matter), that doesn’t constitute ongoing consent. That’s the part that seems to elude RedPill types. They think once a women is interested, however obliquely, it means they have the green light for all eternity.

It’s not a logical thought process. I mean, coffee oreo ice cream is attractive to me, but I don’t want it 24/7. And I don’t want to be forced to eat it.

dust bunny
dust bunny
4 years ago

so i defecated in my hand and rubbed it all over the neighbor’s car windshield.

This gives it away. She(/he/they) are trying to do satire. Too bad it’s (almost) indistinguishable from the real thing.

Ellesar
Ellesar
4 years ago

dust bunny – I really wish the internet wasn’t awash with these piss poor satirists. The whole thing reminded me of Judgy Bitch’s style, and she is a complete a hole.

ScarlettAthena
ScarlettAthena
4 years ago

Okay, I didn’t mean my whole comment to create a link to Dunning-Kruger, only the top line.

I can’t internet.

Just like Muphry’s Law, when someone complains about a typo, they will make a typo, here I complain about people not knowing stuff on the internet when I can’t even link right. {sigh}

Edit: now I get it and too late to edit.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

because the chances of someone walking by, seeing [a rape], and intervening are much higher.

I’ve heard enough depressing/rage-inducing news stories to seriously doubt that.

Actually, if there are more people around, each individual is less likely to help. It’s called the bystander effect and there was a famous case of a woman raped and beaten to death in an alley and dozens of people were woken up by it but no one called the police or an ambulance because they all saw all the lights on and assumed someone else would call.

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

@Freemage

In women, especially, it adheres more to the long disproved notion that rape is about sexual desire run amok

Yeah, I imagine it often runs roughly parallel to the sort of “passion boiling over” pseudo-rape-but-she-ends-up-liking-it stuff that happens in romance novels (at least, in the half-dozen that I’ve read).

Another potential angle (possible tmi warning): I have a partner that enjoys very rough and physically restrictive sex as it lets her subvert bad experiences from her past. As it now happens with her explicit consent and with partners she trusts highly, she’s able to feel in full control of a situation that at one time she had no control over.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

Let’s see.

I don’t hang out only with people I’d want to have sex with because I interact with people for reasons that have nothing to do with sex. (Plus, happily married and monogamous. Already have a lifetime sexual partner and I’m not looking for more.)

“Lauren’s” argument is reminding me of those horrible high-school tropes where girls are told that they should be grateful the quarterback or other high-status student had wanted to have sex with them.

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

As for the OP, to me it basically reads like a juvenile fantasy where one imagines a world in which pesky things like consent aren’t required. If being friends with someone implies consent, then verbal confirmation and boundary negotiation aren’t necessary!

If it weren’t for the myriad ways that it’s completely ridiculous and not at all workable in the real world, it would be perfect!

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
4 years ago

My aunt’s husband was a construction worker. He’s not rich or anything but because he’s union he made a decent enough living to retire early. He isn’t an unintelligent or unskilled person either.

I work in an office and although I do have a college degree, I’m not union and don’t make much money. I don’t think I’ll be retiring early.

My mom has a theory, and I think I agree. People have become more classist in recent decades. They want to get away from blue collar work because it is perceived as low status. This makes anti union attitudes flourish because unions are associated in people’s minds with blue color trades. These attitudes are encouraged by corporate America and the mainstream media because they perpetuate the shifting of wealth into the hands of the very wealthiest. I know that was US centric. I have no idea if people have snobbish attitudes about trades elsewhere.

Anon
Anon
4 years ago

my sister was assaulted by a man she was attracted to and wanted to date. Somehow being choked, hit, & brutalized (she ended up with genital damage and infection) while intoxicated wasnt sexy to her. She would have gladly had consensual sex with him. He didnt WANT consensual sex. THAT is the difference with rape that most men and many women dont know about because even when you really are listening to a rape victim they might not mention “I was attracted to him” or “I needed medical care for my damaged genitals”. Even tho my sis is pretty open with this stuff and this account is anonymous I hesitate to post this but you know, people need to fucking learn

guest
guest
4 years ago

@ScarlettAthena–Thanks for that, it sort of made me laugh about an interaction I had with my boss’s boss the other day, who criticised my clothing (I dress about as ‘professionally’ as anyone else in our office, though differently from most of the women in that I don’t wear makeup, skirts or heels)–I sent him a bunch of articles and then later suggested in the nicest possible way ‘maybe you shouldn’t express an opinion about something like this without knowing that people have been blaming what women wear for how we’re treated for millennia’.

@kupo–The story of Kitty Genovese is much more complex than the pop-psych people have told us; it’s one of those stories, like ‘that woman who sued McDonalds when she spilled hot coffee on herself’, that repays further investigation.

@WeirwoodTreeHugger–One of the things I loved about England when I first moved here more than a decade ago was how seriously people took their jobs; the down side is that ‘people knew their place’ but the up side was that people were proud of who they were, where they came from and what they did. I don’t notice that so much any more; I don’t know now whether it’s because it’s less true or I’m more used to it.

A while back Tony Blair made some kind of pledge/aspiration to get half of the country’s young people into college–I remember talking to the partner of the sister of a friend (yes it’s complicated, but the dude is no friend of mine) who taught marketing at a college near London, who told me ‘I teach a fourth-rate programme in a fifth-rate college, and my students aren’t idiots–they’re well aware that they’re being ripped off.’ But the pressure to get out of ‘the trades’ and get a university education, no matter where and no matter how useful, was that strong.

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

@WWTH

I have no idea if people have snobbish attitudes about trades elsewhere.

From my experience, the attitude up in Canada (or at least here in BC) is very different. I have limited info to make a comparison, but I feel we don’t have the same sort of anti-union sentiment up here, and I tend to think more of teachers and healthcare when I hear “union” than of construction.

There’s a local technical/trade school that’s actually seen as one of the best schools you can have on your resume when job hunting. “Going into trades” is seen as a legitimate career path, and for at least as long as I’ve been in the job market, “unskilled labor” has had a lot of opportunities for starting above minimum wage – primarily in cities working for condo/residential developers, or going to work “at the patch” (oil fields).

Though I don’t know if any of that means we’re any less classist; at best I think it just shows that we don’t consider “blue collar” work to be lower class work.

Dawn Incognito
Dawn Incognito
4 years ago

@kupo:

Several years ago, I read an article that pretty thoroughly debunked the Kitty Genovese “bystander effect” narrative. I recall specific mention of several people calling the police. I don’t recall where I read it, though. I just remember being really interested because I had completely believed the established narrative on that case without actually reading anything about it.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

Yes, the ‘everybody knows’ version of the Kitty Genovese story is significantly different from the actual events.

That said, in first aid training, we’re taught not to just say ‘somebody call 911’, instead you point to one particular person and say ‘YOU call 911’ because it helps cut through panic reactions as well.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

The bystander effect seems to be real (there’ve been enough controlled psychological studies to back it up), but I also know it actually doesn’t apply to the Kitty Genovese story.

reymohammed
4 years ago

I’d say the lady has been brought up on bodice rippers and thinks that’s real life, but bodice ripper heroines never smear their own poop around. Indeed, for literary purposes, they never poop.

Ellesar
Ellesar
4 years ago

Back before mobile phones I was caught up in a bystander effect when I saw a man assaulted in the street. I was right there, so I was beside him trying to reassure him because he was bleeding heavily and obviously terrified. BUT when I said to someone to go and call and ambulance no one fucking would! I had to tell him I would be back, leg it 5 minutes to a cab office and then go back. No one there was panicked, apart from the victim. it was just that no one gave a shit.

Friendly Neighborhood Dragon Arthur
Friendly Neighborhood Dragon Arthur
4 years ago

So what do they mean by “attractive”? My idea of what’s attractive, or the manospehrian’s idea of what’s attractive?

Because if we’re going by my idea of what’s attractive (fat women), then this would punch a million holes into the “logic” of this poster. How “attractive” someone is has nothing to do with their tendencies to commit rape, especially since it’s something that isn’t mutually exclusive to a specific group of people.

Likewise, construction doesn’t really hire “idiots” like the poster suggests; if you can’t do math, you pretty much are screwed in a construction job. Likewise, there’s more to construction than digging ditches and laying concrete.

Of course, if that Savage and his Walrus pal are any kind of proof, people who work in construction, engineering, and anything else where you have to build stuff that works, then we can state that these people are actually very intelligent.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

Thanks to everyone who corrected me on the Kitty Genovese case. I learned something new today. 🙂

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