Jack Barnes, a volatile American Men’s Rights activist known for his harassment of feminists on Twitter, is now threatening to unleash a new offensive designed “to strike fear in the hearts of feminists.” In a post on Men’s Rights hate site A Voice for Men bristling with violent language, Barnes declares that
we have our hands on the throat of feminism. This isn’t the time to ease up. This is the time to squeeze harder.
The ostensible subject of Barnes’ post is a several-weeks-old piece on News.Com.Au by Australian writer Kerri Sackville about a road-raging, red-Jag-driving man who shouted “slut” at her when she honked at him for blocking the road. Barnes adds to the abuse, declaring her a crazy, misogynist (!) “cunt.”
The real source of Barnes’ fury at Sackville is a campaign she launched last December to “name and shame” men who sent abusive and threatening messages to women online using their real names.
And that’s what leads Barnes to what he says is the real “point of this article,” a declaration of virtual war against “Sackville and her fellow feminazis.” He writes:
Here is what we do. We make it hurt. If they want to continue to do this then we make them regret it. They need to learn that their are consequences for doing this. They need to learn that we will extract a pound of flesh, figuratively speaking. They need to learn to fear retribution from us.
Barnes claims that this “retribution” won’t include physical violence, but he doesn’t specify exactly what it will include, merely suggesting that he will soon have the “tools” necessary “to strike fear in the hearts of feminists.” And by soon he means next month.
We won’t use violence. We don’t need to use violence. How do we make these feminists think twice before going all Gestapo on any guy who has the balls to call out feminism or individual feminists on their FemKKK behavior? Well I can’t tell you that right now. Lets just say a plan is in place and being brought into fruition as we speak. Expect it to be revealed before the end of February provided that everything goes according to plan.
Barnes then launches a preemptive strike on any even slightly ethical MRAs who might be “wringing their hand” [sic] over his mysterious threats, bluntly informing them that “this fight is about to get dirty. Deal with it.”
Barnes — using a rhetorical switcheroo common amongst MRAs — frames his threatened offensive as a defensive move. Feminism is dying, he asserts, and like many dying beasts it is lashing out against its enemies in a desperate frenzy. He predicts that
feminists will become increasingly more vicious. … MHRAs with lives ruined, imprisoned and dead is not outside the realm of possibility.
As he sees it, not just Sackville and her fellow Australian ally, writer Clementine Ford, but all “public faces of feminism” are fair game for “retribution” for whatever offenses he’s decided they’re guilty of.
You don’t get a warning. You all have engaged in this despicable behavior. You will receive consequences. Go ahead and whine and cry about the horrible MRAs threatening you. We don’t care. This isn’t a threat. This is a statement of fact. We will not use violence. But we will make you hesitate to ever do these things again.
Barnes apparently believes in some sort of collective guilt, making clear that he will hold prominent feminists “responsible” not only for their own alleged crimes, as he defines them, but for the behavior of what he calls their “mindless minions.”
This is not the first time Barnes has announced his desire to harass feminists into silence. Usually he remembers to put the word “harass” in quotes, as if this will be enough to transform harassment into something that doesn’t sound quite so bad.
Usually, but not always:
Nor is this the first time that Barnes has issued threats that he insists aren’t really threats.
Indeed, I myself have been the recipient of some of these non-threat threats. Last November, after someone doxxed him and his family, Barnes decided that I needed to be held “responsible” for the doxxer’s actions, even though I had nothing to do with that person or persons, didn’t know who they were, and didn’t even know about the doxxing until I learned about it from a video by AVFM head honcho Paul Elam a day or two later.
I made it clear I knew nothing about the doxxing or the doxxer (who later ended up doxxing me). I condemned the doxxing, publicly and repeatedly. It didn’t matter: Barnes declared the doxxer to be a “cult follower” of mine, so anything they did was somehow my fault.
“I promise you David,” he wrote in an AVFM post, “that for the rest of your life there will be nights you cry yourself to sleep in anger and frustration over me.”
Indeed, he wrote, if anything happened to his family as a result of the doxxing, he would literally show up on my doorstep for
a face to face in person discussion … No cops. No lawyers or prosecutors. No judges. No jury. No hiding behind a computer. Just me and you. …
I don’t know of any parent that would blame me for stomping a mud hole in your fucking ass and walking that motherfucker dry for what you have done!
What I’ve “done” is to condemn the doxxing that Barnes blames for putting his family at risk.
Barnes is hardly the only AVFMer who believes in this sort of guilt-by-non-association; assorted others rallied behind him on Twitter, repeating his accusations and defending his threats. The title of Elam’s video on the doxxing declared bluntly that I was “Trying to Get MHRAs Killed.” How? By writing critically about AVFM.
Elam’s bizarre inflation of my carefully documented criticism of MRAs into an attempt to literally “get MHRAs killed” is not only jarring; it’s ominous. By pretending that the writings of feminists leave MRAs, quite literally, in mortal peril, Elam, Barnes and others associated with AVFM can justify almost any actions they might take against feminists, no matter how sleazy or underhanded or even violent, as a form of self-defense.
Abusers who think — or simply pretend — that they are the victims are some of the most dangerous people in the world.
Oh, and we do use that law; it’s not just for show.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11127808/Twitter-troll-jailed-for-campaign-of-hatred-against-Stella-Creasy.html
@Alan
We didn’t have internet back then.
[email protected]
(Some people here might get that)
How many men Feminists have killed: 0
How many women MRAs/Anti-Feminists have killed: https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/07/06/mra-peter-nolan-killing-women-is-the-only-path-to-justice-for-men-now/
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/05/16/this-female-student-was-murdered-on-campus-and-mens-rights-activists-are-celebrating/
http://nypost.com/2014/05/26/killers-links-to-the-mens-rights-activist-movement/
http://jezebel.com/5849925/mens-rights-activists-come-out-in-support-of-salon-killer
Should I go on?
Wow, Jack Barnes seems to me to be a man with some very deep problems, a huge bully and control freak. I feel afraid for the women, girls and boys in his life – How does he behave with them? What sort of ugly twisted legacy is he leaving?
Harming/harrassing somebody who hasn’t actually caused you any harm, surely isn’t technically “retribution”?
Is “tribution” a word?
That kinda looks like a warning to me.
O/T
Yahoo is selling ivory trinkets in Japan. Google and Amazon won’t touch ivory because elephants — majestic, beautiful, intelligent creatures — are endangered. Here’s a petition directed to Yahoo:
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/yahoo_ivory_loc/?bCGwufb&v=71540&cl=9274188206
Avaaz is an international organization with international petitions. It’s fun to watch the names of people around the world signing a petition as you sign it.
Why is Jack Barnes always fantasizing about being killed?
@dhag85
This is merely a guess, but he’s too chicken to do it himself and wishes someone will do it for him? He’ll be waiting an awfully long time if he’s expecting a feminist of either gender is going to bother coming to his door to evangelize/sell him kitchen devices/try to get him to subscribe to magazines/conduct a census much less murder him.
Not much attention is being paid to this story. Ex-boyfriend kills ex-girlfriend and her male friend:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/19/nyregion/3-dead-in-murder-suicide-near-suny-geneseo.html?_r=0
It happened at the State University of New York, Geneseo. My boyfriend almost attended this college, so it hits close to home for us.
Because he needs a “legitimate” reason for fantasizing about killing someone. All of this rhetoric is violent, his claim that this is not about violence sounds extremely hollow to me; I’m guessing that’s just there as a cop-out.
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2011/06/17/today-boston-tomorrow-toronto/
There were WHTM meetups? IRL?
Damn.
Pretribution? Doing unto others before they do unto you?
It must be horrible being Barnes. Like a sort of verbal Edward Scissorhands, he’s only able to interact with the world through the medium of violent speech. Since nobody’s taking that seriously, he has faced the choice between becoming a laughingstock or doubling down on the threats. This time he seems to have chosen to do both.
Protip, Barnes: This isn’t the 1880s. People who go around saying “you will receive consequences” don’t become scary warlords with gangs of enforcers and packs of demure coquettish concubones. They get ignored and laughed at, or put in prison. One or the other. Which would you prefer?
Re: retribution
You can have a tribution; it means to assign something.
What I’m curious about is whether anyone has ever been “gruntled” 🙂
(Gawd; wish I’d had more than two hours sleep!)
@DS
I do hope Trump doesn’t get banned from entering the UK. I’d love to see Jeremy Paxman rip him a new one. Heck, I’d pay to see that.
Well if this man were the awesome alpha hunter he claims to be he’d know this is not the time you strangle feminism. This is the time you shoot it from a distance because a wounded animal (which he seems to think it is for some strange reason) is more deadly and needs to be treated with caution, not tearing off your shirt and screaming VENGEANCE at it.
That bad joke being made, WTF. I’m almost curious about what this plan is that he is planning to reveal to having planned. Since, you know, he brings up his PLAN so much to make you think he is in the process of PLANNING things. -___-
@Dearth I hope they do. imagine the rage if they get labled a hate group by the SPLC!
“we have our hands on the throat of feminism.”
– JB
hmm. citation needed.
He really sounds like he’s just looking for a justification to kill somebody. Imagine being that filled with blind, inarticulate rage.
@Dearth
That’s interesting. I wonder if Jack Barnes’s threats — er, totally nonviolent promises — are related to the article. His projected timeline is before late February. I wonder what the SPLC projected timeline is.
“Abusers who think — or simply pretend — that they are the victims are some of the most dangerous people in the world.”
Such truth.
And don’t think for one minute that Barnes believes you doxxed (however spelt) him. It is something that sort of individual does to justify their own actions.
I have been watching this site for awhile. It saved my sanity after first meeting the existence of Janet Bloomfield and her army of victim-blamers. I never thought much about feminism before that. Not for or against, just didn’t consider.
That’s how its “dying” when they push people towards it. Personally, I don”t believe anyone, male or female, should be harassed in the way some MRA’s try to condone.
I’ve meant to respond to many a blog here, but have been rushed off the feet.
Sadly, it seems the nocent are often gruntled.
I see how this could be used to deal with Unsolicited Dick Pic Dudes, but it worries me that this looks like US laws that have been used to interfere in the consenting exchange of pornography, sex toys, and contraceptives.
Can’t this guy just occupy a wildlife refuge or something?