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Scenes from the ongoing Twitter debacle that is #JeSuisMilo

Found in the #JeSuisMilo hashtag on Twitter
Found in the #JeSuisMilo hashtag on Twitter

History repeats itself. In September 1939, Hitler launched World War II by blocking Poland on Twitter. In December 1941, the United States entered into the war after Japan subtweeted the American naval base at Pearl Harbor.

This past Friday, according to Breitbart, Twitter “declar[ed] war on conservative media” by taking away the little blue checkmark that used to run next to Breitbart “journalist” Milo Yiannopoulos’ name on Twitter, verifying that he is indeed the real Milo Yiannopoulos.

No, really. Here’s the headline of the piece that ran in Breitbart’s tech section on the terrible injustice done to young Mr. Yiannopoulos, who coincidentally just happens to run Breitbart’s tech section.

Twitter Declares War On Conservative Media, ‘Unverifies’ Breitbart Tech Editor Milo Yiannopoulos

Now, Milo hasn’t actually been banned from Twitter. Twitter simply informed him that “due to [his] recent violations of the Twitter Rules” — he’s a bit of a bully — they were taking away his little blue checkmark. So now he has to navigate Twitter without a little blue checkmark, like the overwhelming majority of Twitter users.

Naturally, Milo’s army of fans has responded to this terrible tragedy with wisdom and restraint.

JUST KIDDING! They’re crying bloody murder on Twitter and harassing anyone they can blame for Milo’s de-checkmarking.

Referencing a slogan formerly used to honor journalists and others literally murdered by terrorists, Milo’s Twitter fans launched the hashtag #JeSuisMilo. It was ugly

Here are some scenes from the ongoing debacle that is that hashtag.

https://twitter.com/TheAmazingPleb/status/685651751685341184

https://twitter.com/rstafford9/status/685635514481786880

https://twitter.com/AlHolmes66/status/685863515916115969

https://twitter.com/GBedecker/status/686036916744097796

Naturally, there were rape jokes.

https://twitter.com/MikeRotondo86/status/685666046443823104

In a variation on the old “I’m Spartacus” ploy, many of Milo’s fans pretended to be him. (The real Milo posts as @Nero)

https://twitter.com/MiloYiannopoul2/status/685699475290091520

https://twitter.com/Nuclearcherries/status/685698288864079873

https://twitter.com/dunnolol4/status/685735953072193536

It didn’t take long for the Milovians to find women to blame for Milo’s plight. Many — including some of the fake Milos — went after Huffington Post writer Jessie Thompson, who wrote a piece defending Twitter’s actions. Many of her, er, critics seem to be big fans of the c-word.

https://twitter.com/QuintusMetellus/status/685867151060766722

https://twitter.com/PillboxHill/status/685927247581085696

https://twitter.com/JRocca26/status/685916008561963008

https://twitter.com/Jew_Banker/status/685901724180037636

https://twitter.com/goodboygreg/status/685845870336708608

https://twitter.com/herpefeminist/status/685849987230597121

But she wasn’t the only woman to draw the fire of the Milovians. Some used the hashtag as an excuse to attack familiar #GamerGate targets.

Others — again, including some fake Milos — used the hashtag to promote their own agendas — some silly, some horrific, some a mixture of the two.

https://twitter.com/fiendeJ/status/685643144076083201

https://twitter.com/Qildaen/status/685938406929481728

https://twitter.com/gazetchic/status/686237395893776386

https://twitter.com/_simpa_/status/685993767007088640

One fellow thought he knew the real reason feminists hate Milo.

A few even managed to work their “cuck” obsession into their Tweets.

https://twitter.com/Ideo_Vames/status/685659660104368129

You can tell something about writers by the fans they attract. Milo’ fans prove with every terrible tweet of their what a wretched bunch of bullies and bigots they are — and why Twitter needs to do more to crack down on the abuse that its platform enables.

Congratulations, Milo defenders, for own-goaling yourself so magnificently.

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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ Ben

As any pub landlord will tell you “my gaff, my rules”

As a private enterprise Twitter can set out whatever sanctions they wish. It’s then up to the person deciding whether to use the service if this is something they’re content with. If not they’re under no obligation to sign up. It’s basic contract 101.

weirwoodtreehugger
8 years ago

Saying that such protection is a privilege not a right, makes about as much sense as saying that secret service protection is a privilege and we should stop protecting George W. Bush because he was a bad president.

That’s not a false equivalence at all.

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Tessa
Tessa
8 years ago

Ben… The check is not an entitlement. Not everybody has one. The verification is also an endorsement from twitter about, not only identity, but your contribution to the twitter community. There are criteria for being “verified” beyond just being “real”. Also from twitter: ” We don’t accept verification requests from the general public, but we encourage you to continue using Twitter in a meaningful way, and you may be verified in the future. ” “We are constantly updating our requirements for verification.”.
Notice the language there? It’s not just about being the right person, but content. And Milo’s content violates the TOS. The problem is that the blue check is not what you think it is, nor what you want it to be. We are talking about reality, you are talking about your fantasies.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
8 years ago

Bowie gifs until he leaves?

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Cerulean (Miss A)
Cerulean (Miss A)
8 years ago

Seriously, Ben. You’re tedious.

If people want to bring their toys and play in the giant Twitter sandbox, they’re welcome to do so as long as they follow Twitter’s rules (the TOS). If they start throwing sand or smacking the other users with their toys, or they otherwise can’t play nice, then Twitter reserves the right to take away privileges in accordance with the rules that are broken. In Milo’s case, he couldn’t keep from making a royal ass of himself on Twitter, he broke the rules, and he has to suffer the consequences for it. Why is this so hard for you to parse?

He. Broke. The. Rules.

Breaking rules has consequences; this is something we’re all taught from a relatively young age. What you’re basically saying is you think he should have a pass on punishment because…why? He writes for some two-bit, hate filled website? So many people get upset because ‘notable’ figures get away with a slap on the wrist for behaving like total assholes. Why do you think Milo deserves a pass?

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@Ben Cohen

Punishing people in that manner is lynch-law plain and simple.

Ben, I adore your Chubby Hubby ice cream. But since you and Jerry sold the biz, it seems as though you’ve lost your way.

Alan Robertshaw (an attorney — I’ll leave it to you to work out this commenter’s gender) has pointed out,

As a private enterprise Twitter can set out whatever sanctions they wish. It’s then up to the person deciding whether to use the service if this is something they’re content with. If not they’re under no obligation to sign up. It’s basic contract 101.

Alan and other commenters have summed it up: No one is being lynched, not even metaphorically.

Also, Clarence Thomas, the guy who pioneered this fake “I’m being lynched” argument, is not your friend.

Ben, you need to get better friends and a different hobby. And it’s not a coincidence that you also need to learn that not everybody who stands up for women is a woman.

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
8 years ago

Nicknamenick,

Do you by any chance no what a strawman is?

Why, yes, I know what a strawman is.

I already know where this is going…

Disagreeing with me does not make you an anti-intellectual bigot, but labeling me a troll for disagreeing with you does.

They did not call you a troll simply because they disagreed with you, they called you such because you are exhibiting that kind of behavior. They have explained this is great detail – of which you are either willfully ignoring or lack the reading comprehension to understand.

You are not the first person, nor will you be the last, to have come here and demanded some form of validation as if this is some kind of public forum. Guess what? Just like Twitter, it isn’t – there’s a code of etiquette we have here. So far, you haven’t been following them and thus you are getting this reaction from others.

People disagree with each other on here often, even between those who generally agree about everything, but we make it clear there are certain lines that are not to be crossed and crossing it is not suffered gladly.

Thinking that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll, is basically the essence of anti-intellectualism and bigotry (in the classical sense of that word).

Yes, I know what words mean. The problem is you define and redefine them at will to be convenient for you.

Calling you a troll, due to exhibiting such behavior, is not inherently anti-intellectual or bigoted. Except you won’t accept that…as long as it is inconvenient for you.

As for my reasons for objecting to removing the blue tick, I gave them. The Bluetick is not an honorofic denoting approval of the recipient, it is designed to be protect the identity of notable people. I don’t think it is right to punish someone by removing their identity protection.

It’s absolutely amazing to me how things that are taken for granted at least 99.9% of the time suddenly become important, the moment they’re taken away or their existence is disputed – especially on the internet.

There isn’t a single person I know, online or off, who takes a great deal in verification status. Most of them can discern between a real account and a fake account, as described by other people in this thread and that you continually try to deflect in vain. I’ve always assumed it was just a premium but optional feature for certain accounts, as not every channel I subscribe to on YouTube has verification status. It isn’t something that has caused any issue with those channels or my viewing of them.

It’s also weird that, only now, does this verification status become important and due to Milo Yiannopoulos. I have a hard time believing that, were this to happen to anyone else, it wouldn’t just be business as usual.

Paradoxical Intention
8 years ago

Ben Cohen | January 11, 2016 at 10:04 pm

Paradoxical Intention,

Besides, as others have pointed out, you can’t fake usernames on twitter. What your “@______” name is cannot be changed, and no two users can have the same thing.

Not everyone knows Milo’s real handle, in fact most people probably don’t. Off hand, I have no idea what Charlie Sheen’s twitter handle is. That’s why they put the blue tick by the name.

You know what? I have no idea what Charlie Sheen’s twitter handle is either. Let me see.

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s598/Paradoxys3DS/results_zpswmtjzhge.png

What do you know? Googling “Charlie Sheen Twitter” gave me the real account on the first fucking result.

It would take two fucking seconds to Google what Milo’s twitter is. We live in a world with Google. If anyone wants to know Milo’s fucking Twitter handle, they just have to Google it. It’s not hard.

Ben Cohen | January 11, 2016 at 10:53 pm
Paradoxical Intention,

Whether or not Milo has been adversely affected is not the question, whether twitter should remove identity protection from notable people as a way of punishing T.O.S. violations is.

It’s not just a very, very shorthanded way of “identity protection”, as so many people have pointed out. It’s also a bit of a Twitter endorsement. It grants you privileges on Twitter, so long as you play by the ToS.

Milo couldn’t do it, he got his special privileges taken away, and now he (and you apparently) are throwing a fucking tantrum over it.

If you can’t play by the rules, you can’t play with Twitter’s toys. They outline this and make it perfectly fucking clear in their ToS. Period. Dot. The fucking End.

People here hate Milo so much that it has clouded their judgment.

Oh yeah, and you’re perfectly fucking rational Mr. I’m Just Going to Sit here and Repeat Myself Until You all Agree With Me.

This isn’t a “moral judgment”, This is Milo losing some Twitter privileges because he was being a jackass with them. It’s the equivalent of taking a child’s crayons away because they were using them to draw on your walls.

We think this is stupid. Milo lost a checkmark. Big whoop. He can still post on Twitter. This does nothing to him, but he’s acting like it’s the downfall of civilization. Just like a child would.

As I pointed out elsewhere most people don’t automatically know what a celebrities @….. is. A lot of people aren’t tech savvy. The decent thing for twitter to do is to protect the identities of famous people.

And as I pointed out: Google.

It’s not fucking hard. Ignorance is no excuse on the internet.

Saying that such protection is a privilege not a right, makes about as much sense as saying that secret service protection is a privilege and we should stop protecting George W. Bush because he was a bad president.

-Ben

Except no one is saying that Milo’s identity shouldn’t be protected? We’re just saying that the little blue checkmark he’s losing his shit over isn’t a fucking protection, it’s a privilege. We can all still tell who Milo is on Twitter, even though he’s got all these people “impersonating” him now.

And again, all those people are fucking ON HIS SIDE, you daft radish. The thing you’re so fucking worried about isn’t happening.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention

you daft radish

Careful. On some planets, calling someone a daft radish might equal lynching.

Ben Cohen
Ben Cohen
8 years ago

Tessa,

I was not talking about how “extreme” it was. I was talking about believability and logistics. A fake tweet will have the wrong user name right there in the tweet. A click on the account will show you right away if it’s real. Even without the blue check. At best it’s a matter of convenience. If a tweet from “Charlie Sheen” says something horrible, and when you go to the account, it has 7 followers, it’s probably not Sheen. Also, the real Sheen followers will know the imposter isn’t him.

You and I could spot a badly constructed fake Charlie Sheen account with seven followers; I’m not sure I could spot a well done fake account with several hundred followers. Twitter instituted the blue tick for a reason, and it wasn’t to honor Milo or anyone else for being great people. They instituted the blue tick to protect the identity of notable people.

And what about those of us who don’t have check boxes? Do we all deserve to be impersonated?

I also don’t get secret service protection. Celebrities are the target of all sorts of crap to a much greater degree than normal people, that is why twitter has this policy.

AlanRobertShaw, Cerulean,

As any pub landlord will tell you “my gaff, my rules”

As a private enterprise Twitter can set out whatever sanctions they wish. It’s then up to the person deciding whether to use the service if this is something they’re content with. If not they’re under no obligation to sign up. It’s basic contract 101.

If people want to bring their toys and play in the giant Twitter sandbox, they’re welcome to do so as long as they follow Twitter’s rules (the TOS). If they start throwing sand or smacking the other users with their toys, or they otherwise can’t play nice, then Twitter reserves the right to take away privileges in accordance with the rules that are broken. In Milo’s case, he couldn’t keep from making a royal ass of himself on Twitter, he broke the rules, and he has to suffer the consequences for it. Why is this so hard for you to parse?

The problem is, his name is in the Sandbox whether he wants it to be or not. I respect twitters right to set whatever TOS they choose, but they are also responsible for the content that gets posted on their website. If someone started posting child-porn on twitter, and twitter didn’t do anything, they would be in big, big, trouble.

Similar to child porn, libel is not protected speech.

Twitter initiated the blue tick policy to keep celebrity stalkers, trolls, and other weirdos from impersonating celebrities (or at least tamp down on it). They can’t do this for everyone, but they can do it for people who are likely to be targeted.

Breaking rules has consequences; this is something we’re all taught from a relatively young age. What you’re basically saying is you think he should have a pass on punishment because…why? He writes for some two-bit, hate filled website? So many people get upset because ‘notable’ figures get away with a slap on the wrist for behaving like total assholes. Why do you think Milo deserves a pass?

I don’t think Milo deserves a pass, but I also don’t believe that this is the right way to punish him. If he violated the terms of service he should be suspended from posting.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
8 years ago

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dhag85
dhag85
8 years ago

Hi guys! What the fuck’s been going on here while I’ve been asleep? :p

@Ben

“dhag” are my initials. By calling me “hag”, you’re literally saying “old timey male first name, very common Swedish last name, very common Spanish family name”. It doesn’t make me sad at all, sorry. :/

@Jackie & WWTH

Aww, that’s so sweet of you to remember. 🙂

There are no updates to this, but honestly any pronouns would be fine. I’ve never corrected online trolls who assume I’m a woman.

weirwoodtreehugger
8 years ago

Child porn? What false equivalency is Ben going to draw next? Rape? Genocide?

http://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqd6sjeDR81qhgo6to1_500.gif

dhag85
dhag85
8 years ago

@Ben

I gather from your comments that you believe Milo should be suspended from Twitter. Instead of whining about his punishment here, why don’t you go whine at Twitter until they suspend him? That seems like the “intellectual” thing to do.

Also, do you realize that if Milo were to get suspended, his fans could (and would) still use his name? Your logic is broken again.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@Ben Cohen

You haven’t responded to my comment.

Plus I have a question:

You’re very eloquent — at great length — about the injustice that Twitter has done to Milo. What do you expect us to do about the fact that Twitter took away Milo’s blue checkmark?

katz
8 years ago

What do you expect us to do about the fact that Twitter took away Milo’s blue checkmark?

Post more Bowie gifs, I hope. If he’s expecting anything else he’ll be disappointed.

http://i.imgur.com/p1iNhhn.gif

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
8 years ago

Aww, that’s so sweet of you to remember. 🙂

There are no updates to this, but honestly any pronouns would be fine. I’ve never corrected online trolls who assume I’m a woman.

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It’s no problem, dear. I won’t correct anyone who does that from now on then. If you ever change your pronouns or gender, just tell us, okay?

weirwoodtreehugger
8 years ago

I’ve asked several times what he wants from us and have not been given a straight answer.

I know what I want. Other than being able to get to sleep, that is.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/706760/david-bowie-o.gif

Hambeast (Social Justice Beastie)
Hambeast (Social Justice Beastie)
8 years ago

I don’t have a twitter account, so I’ve learned a great deal about twitter today.

Too bad Ben hasn’t! Ben, how about you take your teal deer and go home, now?

Also, loving the Bowie gifs!

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

I like it when they assume that we’re all women until one commenter reveals he’s a man and then the troll switches from condescension to treating him like a reasonable person.

I adore it when this happens. They usually Gertrude about it too, which makes it funnier.

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Ben Cohen
Ben Cohen
8 years ago

Nick,

I need to go to bed, so I will make this brief. Go back to page 2, in response to a perfectly reasonably and civil post “dhag” told me to leave, and another user called me a troll. If dhag and others aren’t going to be civil, I won’t be civil in return.

I will agree that this discussion has gone on way longer than I ever intended. I think you guys care more about taking the Blue tick away than I care about defending it.

Paradoxical Intention,

What do you know? Googling “Charlie Sheen Twitter” gave me the real account on the first fucking result.

And this proves google is flawless? Then I guess nobody needs a blue-tick.

It’s not just a very, very shorthanded way of “identity protection”, as so many people have pointed out. It’s also a bit of a Twitter endorsement. It grants you privileges on Twitter, so long as you play by the ToS.

And what privileges does a verified account confer? If a verified account really were an endorsement from twitter than I would agree with you, but my understanding is that verified accounts are intended to protect the identities of notable people, in which case Milo does have a case.

Except no one is saying that Milo’s identity shouldn’t be protected? We’re just saying that the little blue checkmark he’s losing his shit over isn’t a fucking protection, it’s a privilege. We can all still tell who Milo is on Twitter, even though he’s got all these people “impersonating” him now.

And again, all those people are fucking ON HIS SIDE, you daft radish. The thing you’re so fucking worried about isn’t happening.

Daft radish? When you say things like that it hurts my feelings…

If the blue check mark is simply a privilege than I would have no problem with twitter giving or taking them away for any reason whatsoever. But if the blue check mark is there to protect the identities of notable people, then I don’t think twitter should take that away for violating the T.O.S.

Good night, it’s bedtime.

-Ben

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

I wonder if our CONCERNED sealion friend was even half as CONCERNED when JB ‘shopped a bunch of tweets from Anita and Valenti in order to generate even more death threats against – ahahaha I can’t even finish that sentence.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll, labeling everyone who disagrees with you a troll is the calling card of a small-minded, anti-intellectual, bigot.

Isn’t that an exact (or almost-exact) quote from Esmay?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
8 years ago

Then I guess nobody needs a blue-tick.

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You’re right, because we live in an age full of social media, meaning you can find the offical Facebook or Tumblr or MySpace (idk) of any person and find all these other links to their other social media accounts, like Instagram, YouTube or Twitter.

It’s amazing how people are able to tell other people about what media they use through other means. No needing of a blue checkmark or anything.

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
8 years ago

I need to go to bed, so I will make this brief. Go back to page 2, in response to a perfectly reasonably and civil post “dhag” told me to leave, and another user called me a troll. If dhag and others aren’t going to be civil, I won’t be civil in return.

No one is obligated to be civil with you either, especially when the sentiments you express are considered worthy of mockery. Your easily hurt feelings are not the end all and be all of a discussion – get over yourself.

I will agree that this discussion has gone on way longer than I ever intended. I think you guys care more about taking the Blue tick away than I care about defending it.

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

The only reason anyone here is still arguing is because you keep coming back and expecting everyone to just give into your arguments.

I said you were disingenuous before and, by God, this proves it – if you didn’t care about defending it, then why have you put so much effort into arguing why it is so important? You’re trying to backpedal and turn the tables with this gas-lighting bullshit, and it’s so transparent.

So, yeah, I’ll hop aboard the Bowie GIF band-wagon now…

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/DB-Transformation-Colour.gif