The Trump-loving, “cuck”-obsessed, alt-right racist wing of the manosphere hates immigrants and loves blaming things on women. So it’s not really a surprise that they’ve found a way to combine these two hobbies of theirs, blaming the Muslim “invasion” of Europe on evil slut women.
But I have to give them credit for how deftly they’ve managed to combine their bigotries into one big bigotry.
In a blog post yesterday, the semi-Nazi “pickup” guru who goes by the name of Heartiste blamed Europe’s alleged surrender to the Muslim “invaders” on “women’s redirected desire.”
That’s the nice way of putting it. Elsewhere in the post he described this theory as the “’White women desire swarthy refugee cock’ hypothesis.”
Heartiste starts off his post with an extended quote from a commenter on another alt-right blog, reflecting on the “sexual appeal of strutting military age young men” to (straight) women. The commenter, who goes by the name “Werner,” seems to think that all of the Muslims entering Europe are part of this “sexy” demographic, and thus wildly appealing to European women.
Watch with amazement how Werner pulls the, er, proof for this theory out of his ass. Is the “invasion of these Muslims … appealing to women?” he asks.
The smart answer seems to be No. But if the sexual appeal is not to women, then there is no sexual appeal, but we know and we feel there is a sexual appeal. Therefore the correct answer has to be YES. And the smart answer has to be wrong.
The sexy men are invading because the women want it.
European women don’t necessarily know, or won’t admit, that this is why they really support immigration, but luckily Werner is here to mansplain it to them.
[W]omen do not understand their own desires, so they would be less able to articulate this than I am. What woman would say, “I know it is stupid, but I need to see if these sexy, strong foreigners might make better lovers and rulers.”
But that’s the answer.
Heartiste, himself a regular mansplainer of female desire, is as taken with this hypothesis as Werner is. According to Heartiste, white women’s alleged secret lust for sexy Muslim men is simply another example of an eternal truth: “Men invade, women invite.” Thesaurus in hand, Heartiste explains that
there is something real and profound to the general observation that invasion – the storming of beaches, the colonizing of foreign lands – is a male thing, and invitation – the throwing open of borders and homes to alien peoples, the coddling and sanctification of wretched refuse – is a female thing. And just as it is with intimate consummation, so to does Woman find her purpose opening her nation’s thighs (and sometimes her own thighs) to receive the impudent cock of a dusky totem.
Emphasis mine.
As Heartiste sees it, White women are essentially cuckolding Western Civilization itself, and need to close their legs, literally and figuratively, before it’s too late!
Whatever the psychological motivation of refugee-loving White European women, it has to stop, or be stopped, soon. The survival of Western civilization is at stake.
You know how this goes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfVcvyxLj-s
Question.
Fart, like every other MRA, is really into his evo psych biotroof nonsense, right? Men “Naturally” want to rape because EVOLUTION, so we need to allow them to rape, and how dare the law go against EVOLUTION’s will; women “Naturally” want to be dominated because EVOLUTION, so we need to
force them at gunpointallow them to be dominated, and how dare feminism go against EVOLUTION’s will… So, if women “Naturally” want to date black or Middle Eastern men because EVOLUTION… Hmm.*does the rhetorical question dance*
Of course, every last facet of this is moronic disproven trash, from evo psych as a quote-unquote “Discipline” to their screaming racism, but I’d still love to see them try to justify this paradox. Purely for the lulz.
Hate to admit it but I personally know at least 3 men who think somewhat along these lines (im from the UK). To be honest I wouldnt call them raging mysoginists, however they are all massive racists. They pretty much think that all women secretly desire to be contolled and treated badly, so every women sercretly wants to married to an extremist muslim. Also, any woman who so much has any romantic contact with a muslim is betraying the country and dragging us further towards being a sharia controlled state. (They all are convinced civil war is imminent and will lead to this). These people are completely genuine believing this, my God have I listened to some half baked, bigoted rants in my time!
Reminds me of the racist obsession with big black cocks (penis envy mixed with racism).
@Helena
The UK still has a skinhead problem, but they seem to have gone underground since the 80s. Yet every now and then they resurface (esp after the Paris attacks) and you realise there are still whole groups of them.
UK also has a general racism problem too but it’s more subtle compared to the States. Still there though.
So, they conflate refugees with invaders? And the sexual assault victims in Cologne with white women apparently lusting after Muslims?
Colour me surprised.
One snippet of good news on the British fascist front, the British National Party is no longer listed as a political party, they forgot to pay their £25 registration fee this year:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35261637
“But if the sexual appeal is not to women, then there is no sexual appeal, but we know and we feel there is a sexual appeal. Therefore the correct answer has to be YES. And the smart answer has to be wrong.”
Has there ever been a better example of the old W.C. Fields quote, “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”?
Isn’t that funny – the various mansplainers reckon there’s definitely “sexual appeal” towards the refugees/immigrants because they “feel it”.
Hate to break it to you, guys, but if you’re feeling sexual appeal towards the refugees, you might be overcompensating with the whole, sleep-with-tons-of-women thing. Just accept your proclivities and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
@ helenawelena
they may not be raging, but they are misogynists.
Everything is more attractive than a PUA, for example, wheelie bins have better morals, are more useful to society, and they smell nicer.
I had to listen to BS like this when I was still living with my ex. Not this stuff exactly, but similar stuff about women’s attraction to the “swarthier and manlier races” and how it was evolutionarily programmed. I’ll buy that there might just might be something to it, when humans lived in isolated and potentially inbred small groups. Maybe the attractive stranger was a better bet than your double-cousin, but you wouldn’t have to look that different to be that better bet. In the main, people tend to be attracted to people who look like those they grew up with and took meals with. (And if you grow up in a really diverse place, you’re probably more likely to be attracted to a broader range of types.)
But basically this whole thing is a pseudo scientific explanation of why they’ve been relegated to the ‘friend zone’ by women they are in regular contact with. They never stop to think it might be their repellant personalities and tendency to monologue crap like this is an arrogant tone that puts them in the ‘I’m-too-polite-to-say-it-but-you’re-full-of-shit zone’
As for the women want to be subjugated nonsense, well – there are always humans for which this is the case. But there are many men who also fall into the trap of the ‘treat em mean and keep ’em keen’ practitioners. I know I put up with way too much shit because I was raised to think that my needs didn’t matter – so in essence they didn’t. But this isn’t a GOOD THING.
I think Germany’s open-door policy was a mistake and was definitely poorly executed, but I don’t think it was a mistake that originated from cooch tingles, but rather from a heartfelt desire to help people who are in a pretty desperate situation.
@ Dr Hoveiny,
I think that’s true, it’s a rumor I’ve heard multiple times from manosphere
sources.
The dude who started Heartiste retired years ago, I think around the time when he got doxxed. 2010-ish? He then sold the blog and its readership to a collective who writes “satire”. You can see a steep drop in the quality of the writing at around that time. You can say a lot of bad things about Roissy, but he is not stupid, and while he did write to provoke, he took care to retain credibility. He probably did believe all of the shit he wrote on some level.
These new guys are different, no amount of stupidity is beneath them. Of course not being sincere doesn’t excuse it in any way. But there is a dark kind of humor in observing the commentariat being cynically milked for hits and donations while the writers run a trumpesque social experiment on them, looking for the limits of hatefulness and plain stupidity they will accept.
If this is just a rumor and it is still the same guy, then he’s obviously running the blog with very different motives and with a different strategy. This is embarrassing for him if true, since he seemed like he was haunted by constant strong negative emotions (hell, who wouldn’t, given his values, principles and world view) and relied solely on his pride in his intelligence and perceived “class” for dignity and solace. I can’t think of anything more pathetic than to have sold out your one last remaining shred of a positive identity for the price of one Château Heartiste blog.
(Of course, given his personality, it’s probable that his pride wasn’t the healthy feel good in yourself kind, but the toxic hierarchical kind that at best brings a bitter petty satisfaction that others are beneath you while making you fearful and paranoid that someone will surpass you. Still, it was all he had, and even the most hierarchical thinkers may sometimes get a jolt of untarnished joy in their abilities when they’re alone.)
I . . . . can’t . . . even . . . .
As for the article on a whole, I shouldn’t be surprised by this. These guys fetishize Eastern women, who are seen to be thin, young, beautiful, demure and willing to abide by traditional gender roles. It stands to reason they believe women fetishize Middle Eastern men. Probably because all us girls want to be taken in hand by a pheromone-laden, dominant, dark-skinned, exotic foreigner who will make us want to throw off the shackles feminism places on us and return to the kitchen where we belong. Or something like that. I do have such trouble attempting to write nonsense, especially manosphere nonsense.
Let us consider. Muslim men are personally clean, sober, circumcised, usually studious and soft spoken, and definitely good cooks. If these MRA types are tired of being friendzoned (actually politely exiled, because they fly into spoiled rages if not treated with the greatest delicacy), they might cultivate some of these qualities (whatever problems I had with my then-husband, I never had to deal with drunkenness, smegma, or bad food).
Sigh.
Every so often I try to persuade myself that Valizadeh is a worse human being than Heartiste (actual name James Weidmann); but then Weidmann goes and writes something like this and it’s just sigh. It’s really difficult to be a worse person than an admitted rapist is, but he somehow succeeds.
Fuck you, Weidmann. You’re a small man who thinks he’s a great man, and lacks even the mental processes to realise his own pettiness. You’re a dollar-store Davis Aurini with all of the megalomania but none of the charisma. Your squalid attempts at demagoguery lack even comedic value. You will live a small mean life, unable to see beyond the end of your own fears, and when you die you will leave nothing behind to enlighten others and be remembered by. You are, in a very real way, without value.
I would ask you to leave my planet, but the stars are cold and beautiful things which are as yet unpolluted by your presence amongst them. Until such time as we can lay you under the earth, please fuck off out of my gender. Better men than you are using it.
The new Heartiste is satire?
How can you tell?
So many MRAs claim satire when they’re called on their crap but it comes off as a man getting caught eating a baby and pretending that he’s performing Swiftian satire while there are more kids on the bbq.
@Lea
You stole my joke, dammit! Dx
I once had a run in with an evo psych troll who claimed that women naturally want swarthy hairy men like himself but he can’t get a date because the media has brainwashed women into liking Justin Beiber.
Which was disturbing because adult women tend not to be the ones who are Beilebers. So not only was he poorly justifying not getting laid, he was quite possibly upset because he was perving on teenage girls and getting a poor reception.
If Heartiste is satire, it’s poorly done because it’s indistinguishable from other manosphere garbage. It’s also deeply unethical because it’s encouraging rape and stirring up all manner of bigotries. Being an asshole on the internet isn’t a grand social experiment. It’s just plain old assholishness.
David Futrelle
Obviously Muslims are not invading western lands. That should be clear to anyone who just thinks for a couple minutes and doesn’t swallow the nonsense posted on “counter Jihad” blogs. However another question comes to mind, does Heartiste actually believe that throughout history, women have welcomed foreign invaders into their lands? Not only can I guarantee he won’t be able to find any real evidence for that claim, it flat out doesn’t make any sense to anyone who understands history. In ancient times that would be especially unlikely when the foreign armies usually made up entirely of men would often capture and enslave anyone who they did not slaughter outright, and if you were allowed to live and you were a women, you were often brutally raped by the conquerors.
He also apparently has no idea about women warriors like Queen Boudicca who fought back against the Roman empires after she was flogged and her daughters were raped. Even before that through she objected to the Romans taking her land, and there’s no account as far as I’m aware of, of other Iceni welcoming their Roman occupiers with open arms, and you’d think that if they did, it would have been used as propaganda by the Romans.
Boudicca
http://www.ancient.eu/Boudicca/
I wonder where Heartiste has gotten his ideas about history. Whoever taught him about the history of civilization, we might want to stay away from like the plague.
The problem with satirical misogyny and racism is that it tends to be indistinguishable from the real thing. It runs the risk of confirming the beliefs that racists and misogynists hold, and maybe giving them more extreme ideas.
[Or, what WWTH posted while I was trying to type around a cat.]
Sadly, no. I thought so, too, at first, because I had read a piece that basically endorsed fat-shaming and blamed feminism for the obesity “epidemic”. The tone was so bombastic and ridiculous, I figured it had to be a fake. It wasn’t. And “Chateau Heartiste”, I later found out, was just one wimpy little guy, who lived in Washington and used to work for FINRA until a woman he harassed exposed him for all to see. There were even pictures of him kicking around, although I can’t be arsed to hunt for them. He looks like a somewhat cleaner, whiter version of Roosh V, but still most def not someone you’d want to do anything with.
There is not enough face for my palm, or palm for my face, today.
Oy.
@ wwth
Not sure if you were addressing me?
I’m not saying there’s anything grand about it, or that it’s not assholish. Antisocial behavior often involves an aspect of experimentation, seeing how far you can push things and get away with it. I hope I’m not giving the impression that I’m in any way excusing any of what whoever runs CH does. It is, as you say, deeply unethical, and there is no doubt that they are horrible people.
But the way in which it is done does have the side effect of making the people so happily willing to be lead down the path of ever worsening terribleness look really stupid in the process. I can’t say I don’t enjoy that.
Well. Now it all makes sense.
This brilliant theory of The Impudent Cock of a Dusky Totem can and should be used from now on to explain all socio-political developments past and present. WWII started because Polish women craved the mighty alpha Germanic cock (duskyness is optional). Vietnam, same thing. Obviously. Invasion of Afghanistan is self-explanatory in this context, and, frankly, so is every armed and not large scale political conflict in the history of human race.
Wow. Women really ruin everything! This is revolutionary. Why didn’t we notice that before?
@ anon,
not satire in the traditional sense. “Satire” in the sense trolls understand that word: exaggerating their abhorrent but sincerely held opinions and beliefs into a form they no longer quite believe, for the sake of provocation and the thrill they get from lying.