A Red Piller Wonders: If You’re Having Sex With Someone Who Hates You, Is There Kissing?

Over on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit, one of the stranger outposts in Reddit’s Red Pill empire, one aspiring alpha has a rather plaintive question about the proper etiquette when one is, er, making love with a woman who hates you.

The obvious answer to this little conundrum is: don’t have sex with people who hate you, or that you hate. Alas, this is not the advice given to young redthrowawaypill.

No, the advice he’s given is a lot more rapey.

A fellow calling himself toolatebutnexttime fondly recalls the lovely times he used to have with his hated first wife. Well, they were lovely for him, in any case.

F**king someone you hate can be really fun. My first wife cheated one me while I was deployed. I grew to hate her, to this day I hate her with every ounce of my being.

When I would come back to the states for vacation, I would pick up the kids from her, go hang out with them, take them back to her house put them to bed and then f**k the hell out of her.

Everything I wanted to do during the marriage but was too beta to just go ahead and do, I did. The fact that I hated her made me not give a shit about if it caused I fight afterwords.

Huh. You’re doing things to her without her consent and that make her angry. That’s not sex any more; it’s rape.

The advice given by Truckyouinthebutt seems almost reasonable by comparison, at least at first.

So hate F**k isn’t f**king someone you hate. Its more of a feeling that you don’t see anything ever happening with this person and all you do is F**k. You don’t date, you don’t text, you don’t talk about the weather, you just F**k. It can be you both hate each others personality but are sexually,attracted to each other and both need a release.

Sort of a friends-with-benefits kind of deal but without the “friends” part. That can actually work if both people are ok with it.

But then Truckyouinthebutt starts sounding rapey as hell too:

I f**ked a girl who was friends with my friends gf but couldn’t stand to hang out with her.

He means that he couldn’t stand to hang out with her, not that the girl couldn’t stand to hang out with her own female friend.

We would all go out for drinks. Us guys would talk, the girls would talk, then at the end of the night we would go after party at my friends place. Him and his,gf would go in her room to F**k and I would keep bitch girl on the couch and F**k there.

Wait, you’d keep her there? How, exactly? This is starting to sound a bit rapey.

No kissing, no sex talk, just whip it out and put it in.

A lot rapey.

You get to pull the hair more, pinch the nipples, slap her ass harder because you,don’t give a F**k what she thinks.

Ok, here’s the thing: when you’re having sex with someone you have to give enough of “a F**k what she thinks” to ensure that she is actually, you know, consenting to sex. Rough sex is fine, if she’s into it too. But sex without consent, well, that isn’t actually sex any more.

Normally if they are hate fucking you they are freaks and totally get off to this so if you do,it right they come back every time.

And if it turns out that, you know, you actually raped her? To Truckyouinthebutt, evidently, it’s no harm, no foul because, hey, he didn’t even like her anyway.

The Ask the Red Pill subreddit is basically the world’s worst advice column.