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Jimmy Kimmel Mocks Return of Kings With A More Manly Version of The Force Awakens

A big congratulations is in order for odious Red Pill dirtbag Roosh Valizadeh and all his equally odious followers: Return of Kings is now not only the laughingstock of the internet but of television as well!

(And, yes, Return of Kings isn’t a Men’s Rights site per se, bla bla bla; they just agree with MRAs on about 90 percent of everything.)

Naturally, Roosh’s fanboys are crying “cuck!” And making even bigger idiots of themselves by trying and failing to get a #CuckKimmel hashtag trending on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/QuintusCurtius/status/684811701661773824

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/684819057955205120

https://twitter.com/QuintusCurtius/status/684812454216380416

https://twitter.com/QuintusCurtius/status/684812627726307328

https://twitter.com/GmacGame/status/684837305417351168

Great work, fellas! I’m sure these HILARIOUS and not at all incomprehensible tweets will win the masses over to your side.

H/T — Several people tipped me off to this one; thanks especially to ND Hall, who pointed me to the Roosh fanboy tweets as well.

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Huggbees
Huggbees
5 years ago

Long time viewer, first time commenter. Don’t watch Jimmy Kimmel that much but this was pretty good. Also funnny how guys like Roosh are the first to jump to a comedians defense whenever they make a rape joke and yet here they are getting offended because a comedian made fun of their little “movement”. Classic example of can dish it out but can’t take it.

Patricia Kayden
Patricia Kayden
5 years ago

Good for Kimmel but MRAs are such a rich source of comedy (as proved by this very website) that I’m surprised that their ideology hasn’t been spoofed before on a late show. Come on, Colbert, you can do it.

GiJoel
GiJoel
5 years ago

Welp, they finally did. They’ve turn the term cuckold, or ‘cuck’ as they use it, into a word devoid of all meaning.

Sally
5 years ago

About the conversation on the consequences of legalized prostitution: yes it gets SO ugly and depressing and it’s been proven time and time again and we still have people advocating for it without getting informed – even feminists. That’s why it pisses me the fuck off when people call prostituted women “sex workers”, as if it’s JUST like any other job – it’s really not and the vast majority of these women are trapped and didn’t have a better choice in the first place. It’s called exploitation and rape.

There is NO way, and i mean none, like 0, to turn human beings/bodies into commodities and have that be a safe and good thing for society. Absolutely none. It’s so bad on so many levels. It’s basically slavery. It also has not a damn thing to do with “sex positivity” or prudeness. ARG

(Sorry this gets me worked up because i researched a lot about this to write a big paper for one of my sociology classes, really depressing topic)

Oh and i believe the solution is to decriminalize prostituted women, criminalize pimps and buyers, and create social programs to help women exit prostitution.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

“Cuck”, when used by the far right weirdos, now means simply “anyone who isn’t one of us”.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@dhag

See also: “Communist,” “Socialist,” “Liberal,” “SJW.”

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

@SFHC

Yup. All their terminology eventually devolves into shorthands for “us/them”. It’s sad, really.

Miss Andry
5 years ago

Bravo. Can’t believe this guy used to be one half of The Man Show.

chippy
chippy
5 years ago

I just want to say that the video is hilarious. +1 for Axe Body Spray reference.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
5 years ago

@Jarnsaxa
I tried reading that part and after a while all I could garnish from the MGTOW’s arguments was “Biasbiasbiasbiasbiasbiasbiasbias!!!!” Seriously. That’s what they sound like.

Tyra Lith
Tyra Lith
5 years ago

Joining LadyMondegreen and EJ in saying: Thank you, Bina.

@Sally: Did you publish that paper in any way? Because it sounds interesting. I share your frustration, btw…

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
5 years ago

@Sally
I’m with you. I’m so tired of being called a sex-negative prude by other feminists when I make the same argument as you, or a similar one with regards to porn. That industry is known to be highly problematic (read: rapey) but it keeps getting defended.

And on the sex trafficking thing, EVERY TIME there is a blog post by someone about what we can do to stop it there is at least one post in the comments from someone who claims to be a prostitute that a) went into it out of choice and b) has never had any problems thankyouverymuch so WHHYYYY must the author make it seem like all hookers are victims when “the actual number is small and most do it willingly”. It’s not faaaaair because then legal restrictions will stop “legit sex workers” like her from having the career they want! Waaah!

Now I’m starting to think that those comments are actually written by traffickers in disguise who obviously don’t want anyone placing restrictions on the sex industry. Like when MRAs brigade articles about rape to try and shut discussion down.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

I’m definitely staying out of the sex work/prostitution discussions but I’d like to just say I greatly appreciate hearing arguments from both/all sides in this. So, thanks, everyone.

Ellesar
Ellesar
5 years ago

I am an ex sex worker (v short time 25 years ago) and I do not defend prostitution. I was one of the ‘lucky’ ones in that I never had a dodgy client or worked in a dodgy place , but I saw enough to know that even if you are not making that choice out of desperation, or having it forced on you, you are still living an unhealthy life.

The women who had been doing prostitution for a while (a year +) mostly hated men and saw them as walking wallets. Drug and alcohol abuse was rampant. Childhood sexual assaults were very common. Some of them hooked up with clients, and this usually ended badly as of course men despise us even more than regular women.

The autonomous free spirited prostitute is so rare as to be a myth. I am sure if I had done it for longer than 2 months I would have my personal horror story to tell.

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

SFHC:

See also: “Communist,” “Socialist,” “Liberal,” “SJW.”

“Cuck” is an extra level of wrong, though – or perhaps “not even wrong”. As ridiculous as it is that the right treats communist/socialist/liberal as synonyms, at least they usually level those terms at people who are left of centre. “SJW” betrays a horribly mean-spirited view of society, but at least the targets do tend to care about social justice. You can see that these terms of abuse are not 180 degrees away from reality. But “cuck” is different. Right from the start, their use of it as an insult has seemed utterly divorced from its conventional meaning. You might as well try to insult people by calling them “daffodil” or “solenoid”: the reaction would mostly be bafflement: ok, I can tell I’m supposed to be offended, but I don’t know why.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

At this point, i think the word “cuck” is just a gross-sounding word that means “pathetic” or “spineless looooser.”

Just, you know, with an extra heapin’ helpin’ of misogyny and racism in there because these are people who waddled up to the Hate buffet. They’ve been back to the line a few times now so their gullets are distended enough with hate for their fellow man that just one flavour of hatred isn’t enough anymore. Gotta pile a bit more on to get that savoury “I’m right and everyone is wrong” taste they need to have.

Sorry if you were eating at the time of reading this. And sorry to the English language for those poor tortured words.

History Nerd
History Nerd
5 years ago

Whether prostitution should be legalized is really a different type of issue than, for example, whether recreational pot use should be legalized. From what we know about prostitution as an industry, there’s pretty much no way to regulate it to simultaneously make it sustainable and create livable conditions for sex workers. There are always a few individual people who got lucky and had a good experience, but they’re the exception rather than the rule.

Fixing the entire industry hasn’t worked and it would probably involve a Utopian level of social engineering and behavior modification (in which case it would probably be easier to just eliminate prostitution).

Chaltab
Chaltab
5 years ago

Fixing the entire industry hasn’t worked and it would probably involve a Utopian level of social engineering and behavior modification (in which case it would probably be easier to just eliminate prostitution).

…not to defend how sex traffickers have exploited the legalization in Germany by any means but… how does one eliminate prostitution?

Antisocialite
Antisocialite
5 years ago

I agree that it feels wrong to give media attention to those in the manosphere because that is what they really want; however, I really believe that it is a good thing. There has been regular, negative press for a while now about them, and it’s probably what is slowing down traffic to AVfM and other places, forcing them to come up with other alliances to try to make money. They may think that any attention is good attention, but I doubt that is the case. Their messages sound good to them when they’re high-fiving each other in their echo chamber, but they don’t look so good in the harsh daylight of the national media, and they know it.

My guess is that people have started using the term sex-workers in order to be open minded and not offend those in the sex trade who may really want to be there. It’s another guess, but those numbers are probably very low, and I too am skeptical that most of the people posting about it’s awesomeness are true workers. I’d be open to prostitution’s legalization if it were a good deal for the workers, but I know that will never happen. The focus would be on the pimps and buyers, as usual. The explosion of the sex trafficking industry tells me that the real agenda is to expand the side of the industry where the workers are enslaved with all the money going to the pimps.

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

Whether prostitution should be legalized is really a different type of issue than, for example, whether recreational pot use should be legalized.

For starters, women are neither plants nor substances.

Or, which is pretty much the same, plants are not sentient (that we know).

how does one eliminate prostitution?

As Antisocialite said, we focus on pimps and buyers.

Making buying sex socially unacceptable will reduce most of the demand (remember, women are kidnapped because there are men willing to pay for them).

The complex thing is, in order to get to that point you pretty much need to modify culture to the point in which women are not seen as objects, or subhuman, or lesser than men.

In terms of politics, punishing buyers and pimps, and rescuing and empowering victims, are the two most urgent and effective actions.

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
5 years ago

Re: kimmel-
So I’m guessing that the guys at RoK never figured out that the Man Show was also making fun of them, as well. Or maybe it’s just me, but I always had the feeling they were subtly mocking the idea of a “Man Show” at all.

Re: sex work and prostitution
Eh, I’ve had a couple really good friends who did it for quite awhile at the higher level, and a couple of them seemed to get along (though for one of them it wrecked her relationship with her husband eventually), and I feel like there’s a way to do it right, but there’s too much other shit wrong in our rapey, misogynistic culture for it to ever actually happen “right”. Like, there’s so much ancillary shit to be fixed before it can even have the slightest chance of happening that I don’t think there’s any hope of us actually doing it “right” any time soon, so I’m also leery of the idea of just blanket legalization.

Does that make sense?

Freemage
Freemage
5 years ago

Chaltab: As noted by Sally, the best results we’ve seen so far are to make it illegal to be a purchaser or a pimp, but decriminalize the act of prostituting yourself. It means the men have a stronger incentive to NOT abuse the women, because the women can go and report them, and they will get busted for both the abuse and the solicitation charge. This creates a balance with the economic power, which is all on the side of the customer.

Binjabreel
January 7, 2016 at 11:57 am

Re: kimmel-
So I’m guessing that the guys at RoK never figured out that the Man Show was also making fun of them, as well. Or maybe it’s just me, but I always had the feeling they were subtly mocking the idea of a “Man Show” at all.

The Man Show was ‘satire’, but it was also guilty of falling into the trap that often hits people who are not quite adept enough to pull off satire, being too easily taken at face value.

History Nerd
History Nerd
5 years ago

Doing some research on the definition of “cuck” (used as a noun), it seems to describe (in PUA lingo) a beta who derives pleasure out of sexual humiliation and letting his wife or girlfriend have sex with alphas. There are often racial undertones since it can imply that the beta and woman are white and the alphas are black. I think they’re trying to say that geeky (white) betas who like films with interracial relationships like The Force Awakens are cucks.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

That’s why it pisses me the fuck off when people call prostituted women “sex workers”, as if it’s JUST like any other job …

I’m not going to get into the rest of the discussion – as much as I joke otherwise, I don’t have all the answers – but I call them sex workers because, as far as I know, they want to be called sex workers.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants:

“I just realized: is this where MRAs get their RANDOM CAPITALS style of writing from?”

Vodka costs money and does not clean laptop screens when mixed with tomato juice and spit. I’ll write you an I.O.U.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
5 years ago

I agree with the notion of prosecuting pimps and johns but not the act of selling sex yourself. If it’s made law it would be interesting to see, and side eye, the number of men who start whining on Twitter about how unfair that is. Side eye them indeed.

Robert
Robert
5 years ago

I read the Wikipedia talk page. Especially the ShadowKomet thread. Oh myyy. He certainly had a lot of free time and nothing useful to fill it with.

The idea of buying sex being illegal while selling it is not was a bit of a puzzle for me at first, but the more I think about it the more least-bad it looks. Women having options for supporting themselves and their families with non-exploitive occupations would be better – but then, I think we all knew that already.

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

I call them sex workers because, as far as I know, they want to be called sex workers.

There are some groups of sex workers here who are pretty organized, conforming unions and cooperative working. I have no problem calling them sex workers because that’s in fact how they identify -even if I disagree with the expression in itself.

At first I totally bought into their discourse: these were -at least apparently- strong independent women, and also as a Peronist I simply can’t bring myself to be against any union of workers, however exploited they be (in fact, the more exploited, the more urgent it is for them to have a union).

But when I met feminists who went beyond the mere “working benefits” discourse, I couldn’t help but notice that the sex-workers would never, ever -like EVER- join sides with people who were trying to rescue women kidnapped for trafficking and bring down pimps and brothels (most of these people are friends and families of victims, who had to do the work themselves while the State looked away or was an accomplice).

In fact, the discourse from sex workers in Argentina is way more anti-abolitionist than it is anti-exploitation They made anti-sexual exploitation feminists their chosen enemy, instead of the mafias behind sex trafficking networks.

I can’t help but give them the side-eye since then. I do think some of the work they do (as an organization) is legitimate and bring some advances, but when I put it in context, they don’t seem to be bothered by sex trafficking at all. In fact, they insist in every space they speak, that human trafficking has “NOTHING” to do with sex work, which is a big fallacy at the very least.

But really, their would-be naive stance on sex trafficking is between overtly creepy and downright disturbing.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

RE: Publicity for RoK

For a long time I’ve had the problem of engaging my otherwise very tuned-in friends in a conversation about modern misogyny, that they aren’t aware of ‘movements’ in the first place. If internet misogynistic groups are too obscure to discuss in public media, why is it that they have a silencing effect (sorry if I use that incorrectly, damn my English) on people who bring up feminist ideas in public media? If people are bombarded with online threats by these groups or like-minded people, why should it not be discussed (or mocked) openly?

I agree that their ideas should not be taken seriously enough to actually DEBATE them in public discourse, but why not make them the butt of the joke to drive in the point that we don’t want to accept their abusive views as a society?

To me it’s important to both take them seriously as an unequalist bunch, and to diminish their egos by dragging them out into the daylight from their echo chambers so they’ll know where people stand. Or to translate a Finnishism into English: So they’ll know which hole the chicken pisses out of. (I never understood what that meant either.)

RE: Prostitution

Thanks so much everyone for discussing this, I’m learning and this is an important topic I’m going to bring up in discussions about feminism in the context of modern capitalism.

Freemage
Freemage
5 years ago

On topic for the blog, but not this thread, did anyone else hear about the doofus here in Chicago who thought it would be peachy-keen to tell the women on the local morning talk-news show that they should no longer wear hats when doing on-the-scene news stories outside.

In Chicago.

In the winter.

Because he thought they would look better with their hair out.

He kindly did suggest that an exception could be made for days when it hits 20 below zero, though, so he has some shred of human kindness (not enough sarcasm tags on the internet for that one).

Anyone surprised this guy works for a local FOX affiliate?

Fortunately, the resulting pushback was strong enough that the idiot policy has been completely rescinded.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-rosenthal-fox-women-hat-ban-0107-biz-20160106-column.html

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

Someone with actual legal knowledge might have something more or different to say, but I think there may be a distinction in most places between “legal” and “decriminalized”.

I’m not sure that, in the US, a case could be made for the legalization of prostitution (even if it’s solely prostituting onesself) while arresting and prosecuting those who enable it (pimps/madams – “enabling” isn’t quite the right word, but it’s probably how they’d characterize their activities) and utilize it (johns…are women who use prostitutes called janes?); but you could probably decriminalize selling sex as a singular person (“This isn’t exactly ‘legal’, but you, yourself will not be arrested for engaging in it,”) while still prosecuting those who indirectly profit it from it as well as those who legalize it.

As others have said, it’s not quite like talking about legalizing vs decriminalizing pot because the “product being consumed” is a person with consciousness and agency (of some degree, anyway, though it may be severely stifled under untold layers of abuse and coersion in many cases).

And I realize that some may rejoinder with, “The prostitute’s not the product – the sex is!” in much the same way that it can be argued that your employer is buying your time rather than you in any bog-standard job in a capitalist system.

But it remains that sex is a singular thing to many people. I was going to modify “singular _______ thing” with something, but I couldn’t think of a broad enough word – intimate, personal, invasive…these all are potentially accurate but not sufficient.

Arguing otherwise (and I have heard people argue otherwise) is as tone deaf to the experiences of others as is an MGTOW arguing that sex-on-demand should be instituted because “it’s just something going into an orafice” or an MRA arguing that rape should be classed the same as any other physical assault.

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

Or to translate a Finnishism into English: So they’ll know which hole the chicken pisses out of.

FYI – It’s the same hole for everything, at least by the end 😉


~*~*Cloaca*~*~

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

@Freemage – Because having ears that haven’t succumbed to frostbite is soooooooo passé.

I’ve never been to Chicago but lived in the upper Great Lakes region of New York for a while…
…Fuck that guy.

Actual internal dialogue I had while up there in early March:

“Today’s not so bad, really. Just kind of crisp…and I just realized that I’m praising the weather because it’s above -5°F and doesn’t hurt to breathe while walking between my car and the library.”

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

@mockingbird

Thank you! I’m glad to get the avian view on this. 😀

Yutolia
Yutolia
5 years ago

@binjabreel:

I always felt like Jimmy Kimmel was using the show to mock ridiculous masculinity. Adam Carolla on the other hand… I’m not sure he understood the mockery part.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Anyone surprised this guy works for a local FOX affiliate?

My mind immediately recalls the clip of Fox News where three old white men make comments on the leggings worn by high school girls that are paraded in front of them in the studio. Creepy As Fuck.

Now another old white man (haven’t read the story but I just know it’s an old white dude, right?) is trying to tell women what he thinks they should wear. Is this going to become a pattern for Fox News affiliates?

sbel
sbel
5 years ago

I think, in an ideal world, sex work would be legal and socially acceptable, though it would need to be heavily regulated and need to have a lot of protection for the sex workers.

But I’m not really sure about how to get from here to there. A lot of people seem to want to legalize it and then just let “the invisible hand of the market” fix everything that’s wrong with it, and I kinda doubt that would work very well.

What I do know, is that the current situation is unacceptable. Currently sex workers can’t get help with anything because they’ll be arrested for prostitution if they try. The current system is basically designed to protect abusers, and to give their victims no way out. That’s unacceptable.

Zelda P.
Zelda P.
5 years ago

I was watching TV for the first time since moving into a new area six months ago (wasn’t room for our old TV on the truck) and there was one horrible moment where we realized we’d been watching a local Fox affiliate and I said “This can’t be Fox. The woman on camera is clearly over 30. She might be – gasp – over 40.”

Seriously, I thought all Fox affiliates banned females of over 25 from being on-screen….

Orion
Orion
5 years ago

I made a post that seems to have been eaten by the spam filter. I was replying to SFHC, asking what my point was. Basically, I’m wary of attempts to explain the Koeln attacks because they strike me as over-explaining the already-explicable. Racists say it’s because of refugees and immigrants, feminists say it’s because of the red light district — or in other words, everyone blames whatever they’re already opposed to. I think we should consider the possibility that this is just a random fluctuation in the already-appalling baseline level of gendered violence which happens to have gotten an international spotlight. I spent 30 minutes looking for crime stats on Koeln or Germany overall that might prove me wrong and/or back me up, but didn’t find anything useful.

PinkiSyddyKitty
PinkiSyddyKitty
5 years ago

This is the most epically hilarious thing I’ve seen all day! Thank you, Jimmy Kimmel, for being awesome.

John Williams is also awesome for The Star Wars theme.

David Futrelle is awesome for this awesome website.

Also; This constant “cuck….cuck….cuck….” makes these Male Supremacist boogers sound like a bunch of chickens….or cuckoos…..both which are very fitting….and anything BUT awesome.

dlouwe
dlouwe
5 years ago

Additional reading for those amused by the MTGOW Wikipedia talk stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way

The original creator of the MGTOW page plus some random cheerleader strongly recommend deleting it because the WP editors aren’t letting them use it as a brochure.

History Nerd
History Nerd
5 years ago

The “cuck” thing doesn’t make sense unless you’re a racist alt-right asshole who thinks liberal betas are letting racial minorities steal your women.

Laura
Laura
5 years ago

Cuck a doodle doo

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Also; This constant “cuck….cuck….cuck….” makes these Male Supremacist boogers sound like a bunch of chickens….

“Cuck cuck cuck BGARRRRRK!!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG3NlOgy0Zo

It does rather, doesn’t it. I reckon we should spam ROKers with chicken pics every time they tweet the word cuck.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@dlouwe

Oh God, the MRA on that page with (if I’ve counted correctly) 36 confirmed socks, all with hyper-stereotypical usernames like “Fearless Speaker Of Truth,” “Conspiracy To Tell The Truth” and “Heil Trump.” He’s almost as dedicated as some of the trolls here.

History Nerd
History Nerd
5 years ago

It’s easy to mock Manosphereans for their ridiculous views, but their views are internally consistent and appeal to a lot of people. RoK and Aurini actually believe this stuff.

dlouwe
dlouwe
5 years ago

@SFHC

Ha, wow, I completely missed that. I mostly skipped that user’s comments because they looked like a bunch of white noise. I guess my bullshit detector is working!

Kootiepatra
5 years ago

@History Nerd – Firstly, I’d hardly call manospherian beliefs “internally consistent”–they contradict themselves all the time. For starters, women cannot simultaneously be the shadowy cabal ruling everything, and also be brainless leeches who have never accomplished anything in their lives.

Secondly–the number of people who like it really has no bearing on how ridiculous it is. And RoK and Aurini are goofballs whose judgment no one should put too much stock in.

Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
5 years ago

Freemage:

He kindly did suggest that an exception could be made for days when it hits 20 below zero, though, so he has some shred of human kindness (not enough sarcasm tags on the internet for that one).

Anyone surprised this guy works for a local FOX affiliate?

Because the discomfort of women is less important than how they look even though the same can be said of men? All the nope.

But the FOX affiliate dig isn’t fair, so far as I can tell. The affiliates don’t have the reputation of the FOX corporate news entities from what I have heard. As a data point, the FOX affiliate in the L.A.* market is in no way different from the other networks’ affiliates. That being said, I quit watching all local news years ago because there was so little actual news aside from weather and sports, just lots of fluff pieces and stuff that functions as advertising. And shootings. Lots of shootings, though that’s probably an L.A. thing.

*I don’t live there anymore, but still get those local channels along with San Diego local channels in my cable package.

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
5 years ago

Heil Trump?

Once again, you can’t even Godwin Trump and his fans anymore. Not when they’re literally Nazis.