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Return of Kings: “Dogs provide most of the positive benefits of women except sex.”

The Red Piller's ideal woman?
The Red Piller’s ideal woman?

A new post at Return of Kings, Roosh V’s site for terrible, terrible men, has me wondering: Do Red Pillers all harbor a secret wish to have sex with their dogs?

In the post, regular RoK contributor Max Roscoe reports on “10 Things My Dog Taught Me About Women.” His conclusion? That aside from that whole sex thing, he prefers his dog. Man’s faithful canine companions, he explains

are incredibly loyal, protective, and offer unconditional love, and will in some ways be more consistent, reliable, and rewarding than a woman. It’s often said that sexbots will be the end of the modern feminist. Dogs provide most of the positive benefits of women except sex, and owning one can benefit a man greatly.

Roscoe apparently dreams of a glorious future in which women can be replaced with a more pliable combo of sexbots and dogs.

Until the sexbots arrive, though, heterosexual men — or at least those heterosexual men who are unwilling to have sex with their dogs — are stuck with women.

But all is not lost, as Roscoe offers a number of useful suggestions on how men can make their girlfriends or wives more like dogs. 

As Roscoe sees it, proper training is key for both women and dogs.

A well trained dog will know when it misbehaves, and will sense the disappointment or anger of its owner when it breaks the rules. Likewise, a woman should be trained to behave properly. Since Western civilization has abdicated its role in training members of both sexes how to behave politely and what proper roles are, men must take up this duty on our own.

Unfortunately, Roscoe notes, even well-trained dogs and women sometimes misbehave, making “slight corrections” necessary. All men need to do to get their women back in line is to become paranoid, controlling creeps.

Tell her to hit the gym when she’s gotten a bit out of shape, but don’t wait until she’s gained 20 pounds. Give her a limit on how much alcohol she can drink. Tell her she must inform you who she is going out with and where.

Women aren’t just like dogs; they’re also like children.

As we know, women are essentially large children, and like a teen who will gradually test the limits of his boundaries, a woman will push the rules to see how much she can get away with. Treat her like a father would his child, and let her know she is not to behave this way in the future. She will not only stop the harmful actions, but come to respect you even more.

So how can men tell if their wives or girlfriends are good dogs?

By their shiny coats. Dogs should have “well groomed hair” rather than “a matted, dirty, coat full of debris.” Same with women!

A “quality” woman, Roscoe proclaims, should

groom herself well, with long, feminine hair, trimmed and painted nails, and conservative clothing.

And she should have “clear, radiant skin,” rather than a “body mutilated with shrapnel and graffiti.”

She should also, Roscoe argues, know her place. Just as a dog is naturally “subservient to its owner,” so “a woman is naturally and normally the submissive partner to the man.”

This is the case, Roscoe explains, even if she has short hair.

No amount of short haircuts, business suits, you-go-girling or education can reverse the natural role than women play in the world.

But don’t bother to try to explain this to women. Hell, don’t bother to explain anything to them, because women, like dogs, don’t really understand human language. It’s all “blah blah blah Ginger” to them.

You can talk in a kind voice to a dog, and he will understand your loving happiness, and reciprocate, but beyond that, dogs are incapable of understanding you, interpreting your thoughts, empathizing, or using logic.

Likewise, it is a waste of time to get into deep discussions with women, expect them to rationalize or understand things, or even to truly empathize or love a man.  … While a dog or woman can respect and honor you, and make you feel good, they cannot truly understand you, or love you the way you love them.

I’m thinking that Roscoe should not only be kept away from women, but from dogs as well.

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KathleenB
KathleenB
8 years ago

One of my sister’s dogs is very sensitive to my moods and my pain level. He’ll herd me to the couch and try to sit on me until I feel better. Luckily he’s the smallish beagle mix and not either of the super sized german shepherds… Our older cat does the same thing, but he likes to plop his entire weight onto my bad hip.

Ben
Ben
8 years ago

A small point, but I love how Red Pill idiots always talk about “civilization,” “society,” and “culture” like these are entities that exist outside of human action. “Civilization won’t abuse women properly, so it falls to us, every member of the male gender, to do so!” What.

Bina
8 years ago

It’s often said that sexbots will be the end of the modern feminist.

“Often said”, and yet, here we all still are. Whatcha gonna do?

A well trained dog will know when it misbehaves, and will sense the disappointment or anger of its owner when it breaks the rules. Likewise, a woman should be trained to behave properly. Since Western civilization has abdicated its role in training members of both sexes how to behave politely and what proper roles are, men must take up this duty on our own.

Hello, Desert Islands, Inc.? Have I got a customer for you!

Tell her to hit the gym when she’s gotten a bit out of shape, but don’t wait until she’s gained 20 pounds.

Wow, this bozo must think 20 pounds is a lot of weight. Spoiler: It isn’t. I’ve gained more than that and not shown it. (Mind you, I tend to pack it on as muscle, so.)

Give her a limit on how much alcohol she can drink. Tell her she must inform you who she is going out with and where.

And above all, never kvetch when she dumps what’s left of her drink over your head, and walks out the door, and blocks you on all social media.

women are essentially large children

I don’t like where this is going…

Treat her like a father would his child

…ewwww…

She will not only stop the harmful actions, but come to respect you even more.

Obviously, this guy has never met a real woman. Because damn, that is NOT what happens when you patronize us and push us around.

groom herself well, with long, feminine hair, trimmed and painted nails, and conservative clothing.

I’m confused. Is he talking about a person here, or a Pekingese?

body mutilated with shrapnel and graffiti

Now it sounds like he’s talking about a building in, I dunno, Syria maybe.

a woman is naturally and normally the submissive partner to the man.

Yeah, I’m gonna go with “definitely has never met a real, live woman”. Because nobody with any working knowledge of what he’s talking about would ever say anything so goddamn stupid.

No amount of short haircuts, business suits, you-go-girling or education can reverse the natural role than women play in the world.

Oh yeah, right. Tell it to my mom, who’s worn her hair short since before she even met my dad, and never grown it long again in all that time. Also, we don’t all wear business suits; some of us do business in jeans or even sweatpants, and I don’t see those going out of fashion anytime, either. Encouragement to do whatever we want to? Ditto. And education for women is growing, not receding, and will continue to do so until we have reached full parity. As for “the natural role that women play in the world”, there is none. Everyone’s nature is different, and everyone chooses what they want to do. Accept it, and quit trying to foist your idiotic, ARTIFICIAL gender roles on us.

it is a waste of time to get into deep discussions with women, expect them to rationalize or understand things, or even to truly empathize or love a man

It is a waste of time to get into deep discussions with misogynists, expect them to reason (NOT “rationalize”, which does not mean what you think it means), or even to truly empathize with or love a woman. FTFY.

While a dog or woman can respect and honor you, and make you feel good, they cannot truly understand you, or love you the way you love them.

Oh, Roscoe, you ignorant slob. They can understand you perfectly well, and do so without even breaking a sweat (which, in a dog’s case, is dissipated through its long, floppy tongue). And if they love you, it’s more than you deserve, because you most certainly do not love them. You merely attempt to dominate them, which is not love or anything remotely near it. You don’t know how to love anyone but yourself, and you’re doing even THAT all wrong.

Do yourself a favor and just buy yourself a stuffed toy dog and a blow-up doll. Neither real women nor real canines will ever miss you.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
8 years ago

Wow.

Much insight.

Very leadership.

Such expertise.

So responsibility.

Wow.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

@RosaDeLava
@Ohlmann
So dogs and I end up terrifying one another and then adopting behaviour which terrifies one another even more? Eeek. (That said, describing me as a large herbivore engaged in instinctual fight-or-flight behaviour is exactly right.)

I don’t want to scare dogs, or indeed anyone except certain people when they annoy me. I think I shall become a cat person.

Caligula Rex
Caligula Rex
8 years ago

Women are exactly like dogs, or any other mammalian. Pavlov proved they can be trained using operant conditioning, ie giving rewards for positive behavior. If you choose to punish abhorrent behaviour and reward positive ( ie, punish for talking back, spending money on herself or posting selfies to her cuckolding black men on facebook, reward for making you a good hot meal, giving head or being silent and obedient) you will reap the rewards of a faithful and loving wife and mother to your children, not a harriden with tattoos and pink hair like the feminist harpies. Learning about psychology is the same as learning game, what works for mammalians works for all female animals.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
8 years ago

ROK is making pseudo-regicide seem a lot more appealing now that I think about it. And the MGTOW/MRA/vagina-obsessed dudes like to bitch about women supposedly claiming to be princesses…

I only wear the tiara at home, and occasionally to the grocery store when I forget it’s on my head. Role-playing is fun, ROK….not so much.

10 out of 10 dogs owned by feminists agree.*

*the number would be higher but the dog population available for polling at the time did not allow for this.

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
8 years ago

So, Caligula Rex, are saying psychological conditioning works on women and not men?

Because I have a degree in psychology and in none of my classes did any of the professors say behavioral psychology only applies to feeemales.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ EJ

The quickest way to gain a dog’s trust is to drop down to its level and expose your throat; that’s the doggy equivalent of showing your hands are empty. Just lowering yourself down and taking in a calm friendly voice though establishes a more mutual relationship.

Never ever turn your back and run though; that triggers the chase response in dogs (there’s some fascinating research about how its the same in human combat).

Dogs are brilliant; I love them. The “fur kids” as the special vegan in my life calls them.

Bina
8 years ago

“All you women who rejected me will grow old alone with your sad cats and pathetic dildos! Meanwhile, I will be over here, free, with my awesome dogs and totally hot sexbots!“

I LOL’d.

And this dude just reminded me of why even my oldest and crotchetiest cat is infinitely superior company to him. She hisses and swats at her little sister, and shits on the tiled floor at least once a day (litterboxes? Ptui!), and her fur gets all ratty if she’s not brushed, and flies all over the place when she IS brushed, but she still beats the living frack out of this dude.

Its true. Women need to return to a natural state that includes make-up, painted nails, dresses, feminine hair, and regular exercise routines at corporate run gyms. You know, all the stuff that grows wild in the forest along with the woolly mammoths, the mushrooms and the sabre toothed tigers.

Yeah, a lot of “long feminine hair” is actually very well-made nylon extensions. About as natural as a boob job, but these guys all seem to worship it (and huge, high shelf boobage obtainable only through implants) as emblematic of youth and fertility. Which no woman in her right mind would ever squander on them, anyway.

Yeah, I think I’ll be okay with my old cranky cat.

dhag85
8 years ago

@Caligula Rex

1. All mammals are exactly the same.
2. Only women are mammals.
3. Only men can logic and science.

Got it!

katz
8 years ago

Time until Caligula Rex inevitably gets bitten by a dog…

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

I can’t believe David actually let Caligula Rex ([arewethebaddies.jpg]) through. You’d think his highly-intelligent and ever-so-clever ([sarcasm.gif]) first post would’ve seen him tossed in the trash.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ SFHC

O/T but until you track down the DVD.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1lek8h_prehistoric-autopsy-episode-one-neanderthal-bbc-documentary_tech

I’ve decided that I’d look really cool with a Sagittal Crest; I wonder if there are any exercises I can do?

dhag85
8 years ago

@Katz

I laughed so fucking hard.

Bina
8 years ago

Women are exactly like dogs, or any other mammalian. Pavlov proved they can be trained using operant conditioning, ie giving rewards for positive behavior. If you choose to punish abhorrent behaviour and reward positive ( ie, punish for talking back, spending money on herself or posting selfies to her cuckolding black men on facebook, reward for making you a good hot meal, giving head or being silent and obedient) you will reap the rewards of a faithful and loving wife and mother to your children, not a harriden with tattoos and pink hair like the feminist harpies. Learning about psychology is the same as learning game, what works for mammalians works for all female animals.

BAD man! Bad, BAD man!

http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1339426725154_9146065.png

(Let’s see if operant conditioning also works on maaaaaales. It’s supposed to work equally on all mammalians, by the “logic” of our fly-by troll, after all…)

amy
amy
8 years ago

lol it’s natural for women to be submissive however it is not natural for women to have body hair. I love when male supremacist try define what “natural” femininity is!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ Bina

Let’s see if operant conditioning also works on maaaaaales.

As the largest scale use of operate conditioning on humans is the training of infantry soldiers (which as our MRA friends point out can only be men) then it clearly does work on us males.

Paradoxical Intention
8 years ago

Caligula Rex | January 2, 2016 at 4:04 pm
Women are exactly like dogs, or any other mammalian. Pavlov proved they can be trained using operant conditioning, ie giving rewards for positive behavior.

Ah, yes Pavlov’s Dog. Just like the lesser known Shrodinger’s Dog: It’s both male and female until you check by trying to give it conditioning. Then it’s most assuredly female, and thus, you can condition it.

If you choose to punish abhorrent behaviour and reward positive ( ie, punish for talking back, spending money on herself or posting selfies to her cuckolding black men on facebook, reward for making you a good hot meal, giving head or being silent and obedient)

It’s funny what you consider “abhorrent behavior” there.
– “talking back”: I am a goddamned adult, not another of your children. I will stand up for myself if I need to. It’s not “talking back”, it’s talking to you. If you can’t see me as an equal, you’re gonna have a bad time.

If you don’t want someone who can “talk back”, then maybe don’t date.

– “Spending money on herself”: But it’s totally okay when you do it, amirite? Because Daddy needs a new set of tools and a bigger TV for his man cave.

What is it with these guys and saying “You have to be photoshopped perfect all the time, but don’t you dare spend any of my money (even if you’re the one earning it) on yourself!” If I earned that money, you can fuck right off. I get to decide what to do with it, not you. If I want to get myself a manicure or a new Monster High doll, and all our bills are paid and we have some extra cash, you’re not going to get to say a fucking word about it. You can purchase your stuff with your money, and I’ll purchase my stuff with my money.

– “Posting selfies for cuckolding black men on Facebook”: Insecurity, thy name is Caligula Rex. What makes you think that she’s posting selfies for “black men”? Why can’t she just post a selfie because she thinks she looks good today and wants to share with her friends?

Nah, she must be trying to cuck you! I mean, she obviously doesn’t know what a perfect, wonderful person you are with all your manipulative, controlling bullshit. You only treat her like a child because you care about her, right?! Obviously, she doesn’t know you’re the best thing that’s ever going to happen to her. [/sarcasm]

But of course, I pegged you for a fucking misogynist on the other thread as well, and it really shows when you talk about “good behavior” that needs to be rewarded.

I mean, “making me dinner”, “giving me head”, being “silent and obedient”? Fuck right off, you’re a piece of garbage, and I sincerely hope no woman has the misfortune of dating you. Or if she does, it’s a short relationship.

you will reap the rewards of a faithful and loving wife and mother to your children, not a harriden with tattoos and pink hair like the feminist harpies.

I dunno, being a harpy is pretty badass. I can lure men to their deaths with my tattoos and pink hair! Not that I have pink hair or tattoos (yet), but I’ve always wanted cotton candy colored hair! And shit like this just convinces me that it’s a damn good investment all the more! Because shit-eaters like you will stay the fuck away from me.

Although, no you won’t, because you will still harass me, even though you think I’m a “feminist harpy”, you’ll still try your weaksauce “game” on me. Because you’re pathetic.

Learning about psychology is the same as learning game, what works for mammalians works for all female animals.

So that means it should work on you too, yes? You’re a mammal.

Oh, but wait, you’re not a feeemale. So my widdle ladybrain can’t possibly manage to use the same psychology on YOU, right? [/sarcasm]

What is it about having a penis (because we all know you’re transphobic as fuck, because that goes hand-in-hand with misogyny) that makes you immune to psychology? Does your brain just not work at all or what?

mockingbird
mockingbird
8 years ago

Operant conditioning does work on mammals (male and female).

Luckily, our wonderful neocortices also allows us to say, “Fuck this shit, I’m out.”

Here’s hoping you never find someone who realizes this too late to also avoid having to deal with you for any length of time

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
8 years ago

Yeah, if game instantly turned “females” into hb10s who want nothing more than to be a domestic and sex slave, you’d think more of these guys would be out using their masterful operant conditioning skills rather than whining on the internet about how fat and hair dyed and feminist western women are.

KafkaNoMore
KafkaNoMore
8 years ago

Caligula Rex,

What a sad, lonely and miserable fuck you are! It must suck to be you man. Good luck waiting for that sexbot. It won’t happen during your lifetime, but maybe in a next one…

Unfortunately for you, in this one you will die as a basement-dwelling neckbeard, that’s for sure.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
8 years ago

Ugh. Some days, I swear the only thing keeping me from going all the way to the right on the Kinsey scale are my husband and Tom Hardy.

[a] woman… cannot… love you the way you love [her].

Umm, that’s because you are actually incapable of loving a woman, Roscoe. You’re probably incapable of loving anyone, including yourself.

Speaking of which, hey, Caligula Rex–why would you even want a woman to have your children? There are already far too many unloved children in the world.

I need some canine brain bleach.

https://youtu.be/NdXeA3vydx8

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
8 years ago

Women are exactly like dogs, or any other mammalian.

So you’re saying women are exactly like you? Explains a bit.

If you choose to punish abhorrent behaviour and reward positive ( ie, punish for talking back, spending money on herself or posting selfies to her cuckolding black men on facebook, reward for making you a good hot meal, giving head or being silent and obedient) you will reap the rewards of a faithful and loving wife and mother to your children

You’re much more likely to reap the reward of a restraining order.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 years ago

When I read the post of Caligula Rex, I though of it as a satire of the logic exposed by the original article.

Poe’s law in action ? If it’s not, then I am sad for caligula. But not sad enough to not hope for some petty retributions for his/her stupidity. Like missing his commute by 2 minutes and being forced to wait 30 minutes the next bus/train.

(note that as a non-native english reader I sometime miss cues)