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Return of Kings: “Dogs provide most of the positive benefits of women except sex.”

The Red Piller's ideal woman?
The Red Piller’s ideal woman?

A new post at Return of Kings, Roosh V’s site for terrible, terrible men, has me wondering: Do Red Pillers all harbor a secret wish to have sex with their dogs?

In the post, regular RoK contributor Max Roscoe reports on “10 Things My Dog Taught Me About Women.” His conclusion? That aside from that whole sex thing, he prefers his dog. Man’s faithful canine companions, he explains

are incredibly loyal, protective, and offer unconditional love, and will in some ways be more consistent, reliable, and rewarding than a woman. It’s often said that sexbots will be the end of the modern feminist. Dogs provide most of the positive benefits of women except sex, and owning one can benefit a man greatly.

Roscoe apparently dreams of a glorious future in which women can be replaced with a more pliable combo of sexbots and dogs.

Until the sexbots arrive, though, heterosexual men — or at least those heterosexual men who are unwilling to have sex with their dogs — are stuck with women.

But all is not lost, as Roscoe offers a number of useful suggestions on how men can make their girlfriends or wives more like dogs. 

As Roscoe sees it, proper training is key for both women and dogs.

A well trained dog will know when it misbehaves, and will sense the disappointment or anger of its owner when it breaks the rules. Likewise, a woman should be trained to behave properly. Since Western civilization has abdicated its role in training members of both sexes how to behave politely and what proper roles are, men must take up this duty on our own.

Unfortunately, Roscoe notes, even well-trained dogs and women sometimes misbehave, making “slight corrections” necessary. All men need to do to get their women back in line is to become paranoid, controlling creeps.

Tell her to hit the gym when she’s gotten a bit out of shape, but don’t wait until she’s gained 20 pounds. Give her a limit on how much alcohol she can drink. Tell her she must inform you who she is going out with and where.

Women aren’t just like dogs; they’re also like children.

As we know, women are essentially large children, and like a teen who will gradually test the limits of his boundaries, a woman will push the rules to see how much she can get away with. Treat her like a father would his child, and let her know she is not to behave this way in the future. She will not only stop the harmful actions, but come to respect you even more.

So how can men tell if their wives or girlfriends are good dogs?

By their shiny coats. Dogs should have “well groomed hair” rather than “a matted, dirty, coat full of debris.” Same with women!

A “quality” woman, Roscoe proclaims, should

groom herself well, with long, feminine hair, trimmed and painted nails, and conservative clothing.

And she should have “clear, radiant skin,” rather than a “body mutilated with shrapnel and graffiti.”

She should also, Roscoe argues, know her place. Just as a dog is naturally “subservient to its owner,” so “a woman is naturally and normally the submissive partner to the man.”

This is the case, Roscoe explains, even if she has short hair.

No amount of short haircuts, business suits, you-go-girling or education can reverse the natural role than women play in the world.

But don’t bother to try to explain this to women. Hell, don’t bother to explain anything to them, because women, like dogs, don’t really understand human language. It’s all “blah blah blah Ginger” to them.

You can talk in a kind voice to a dog, and he will understand your loving happiness, and reciprocate, but beyond that, dogs are incapable of understanding you, interpreting your thoughts, empathizing, or using logic.

Likewise, it is a waste of time to get into deep discussions with women, expect them to rationalize or understand things, or even to truly empathize or love a man.  … While a dog or woman can respect and honor you, and make you feel good, they cannot truly understand you, or love you the way you love them.

I’m thinking that Roscoe should not only be kept away from women, but from dogs as well.

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hippielady
hippielady
8 years ago

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

@Yacob14
I agree with you. For some reason, this particular post seems more vile than most of the others David has posted here. I got actual shudders reading.

I sometime wish I didn’t know there were people like this is in the world.

Jurgan
8 years ago

When Blink 182 made this point, I’m pretty sure they were joking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BTTnaKjDns&t=2m28s
(NSFW for an f-bomb)

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
8 years ago

Yeah, I’m not really a dog person, but even I know that dogs can be very empathetic – even in a bad way. That’s why “Stay calm, they can sense your fear,” is almost a truism. Though dude is right that’s it’s probably a waste of breath to have a deep conversation with a dog.

Yes, not only do they see ‘us girls’ as somehow a separate species, but also exactly alike in terms of internal motivation.

No woman could be happy with this abusive excuse for a man and I have my doubts about whether a dog could either.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 years ago

“I’m mortally afraid of dogs, and they all know this. I’ve never met a dog which didn’t want to devour my flesh.”

Dogs are very good at picking up sentiment. They see you fear them, and given an human is bigger and a real threat to them if aggressive, it tend to also frighten them.

See it that way : if you see an elephant that look at you nervously and seem on the brink of fleeing or charging, would you keep your calm ?

The part that kill me is how he seem to believe a dog would have a well groomed hair naturally. Either he believe that or he believe one should bath and groom his significant other. In fact, while he show a completely “standard-for-RoK” level of misunderstanding of humans, I am still baffled by him showing the same level of misunderstanding about dogs.

Ellesar
Ellesar
8 years ago

‘Just as a dog is naturally “subservient to its owner,” so “a woman is naturally and normally the submissive partner to the man.”’

Why doesn’t he just say that a woman is ‘naturally and normally’ the property of the man? Because that is all he is saying – that traditional patriarchy should be enforced at the expense of any desire, dream, personality trait or freedom that a woman has.

Does the concept of Free Will only apply to men in his world – like ‘democracy’ in Ancient Greece?

PS I have 2 dogs, and adore dogs. He sullies their beautiful nature with this drivel.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

You know what this thread needs? Puppies.

http://cdn.cutestpaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/cute-puppy1.jpg

PUPPIES, I SAY.

dhag85
8 years ago

Summary of TRP philosophy:

“All you women who rejected me will grow old alone with your sad cats and pathetic dildos! Meanwhile, I will be over here, free, with my awesome dogs and totally hot sexbots!

RoscoeTCat
RoscoeTCat
8 years ago

So, at least some men notice when a woman’s nails are painted?

This article is horrible for all the reasons other commenters have mentioned, and then some.

I kind of find it interesting, how these guys mention a woman’s grooming quite a bit. Traditional feminine grooming can take quite a bit of time(and money). I gotta get up very early in the morning to go to work. If it’s a question of getting another half hour of sleep, or coaxing my hair to perfection, then sleep is going to win out.

ms_xeno
ms_xeno
8 years ago

Ellesar, the best part is that they simultaneously claim that women are “naturally” subservient, while they piss and moan about how much work they have to do to keep us under their grimy thumbs.

That’s never added up for me no matter how many times I’ve heard/read it from sexists. Behavior that’s “natural” really shouldn’t need 24/7 reinforcement from an outside party.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
8 years ago

How has this thread got this far without someone making the obvious comment? I shall sacrifice myself for the cause.

“Bitches, amirite?”

I’m actually amazed the word didn’t show up in the rant, unless I missed it due to my habit of skimming rather than actually reading that crap. It strengthens my conviction that for MRAs, the word actually no longer has any links to dogs at all.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
8 years ago

Lol.

I managed to teach my dog to do 1, that’s one – uno – trick. Whenever I say “Show me your boobies” she promptly flops onto her back. And she only does it when *I* give the command phrase.

Thank heavens she’s my dog and not living with one of those Redpillians. She’s much too awesome and those boobies are the best set 8 – people lucky enough to glimpse their greatness revealed by her performance are in awe. 😛 They do not, however, want to attempt to have sex with my dog. Thank heavens. (If they do they have the sense to NEVER speak of it to anyone who knows me let alone directly mention it to me. Still icky if they’re thinking it.)

Nobody who is not also a dog should be having sex with dogs – whether they’re the owner or not. Oh and fucking a dog should get the person’s right to exist on the planet revoked. Launch those disgusting creatures (not the dogs) into space.

Ashley
8 years ago

If they could get away with it, I’m sure they would. They like a creature that panders to their every need and desire, and women don’t do that so that’s why that was written.

Ms_xeno, that’s why they blame it on feminism and “western civilization.” They mistakenly think being docile and servantile is in our nature, but because of feminism…women are rebellious and impossible.

Faradn
Faradn
8 years ago

That would be badass if actual shrapnel-as-piercings became a thing. Maybe the latest Mad Max movie will start that trend.

Fred_the_Dog
8 years ago

I’d be the first one to agree, that if you live alone, a dog can be a quite nice companion animal and relieve loneliness significantly.

However, I don’t expect my dogs to take the place of my friends or my partner; it is not at all the same relationship. They are more like very bright, fast running toddlers who will stay that way for life.

While legally, it is ownership, from their perspective it is more like mutual caretakership. I keep them safe from hunger, cold, and being run over by cars and love them; they love me in return and keep me safe from evil squirrels, postal service workers, runners, and the random plastic bag blowing by.

They are not capable of living on their own; however, I am (and I am a woman) and I find it very telling that these manospherians would like to believe I cannot.

WickedWitchOfWhatever
WickedWitchOfWhatever
8 years ago

@zoon echon login

tl;dr “I’m too insecure to deal with other persons who have their own thoughts and desires because I’m afraid they might reject me, so I’m only comfortable with objects and commodities, and reducing others to objects and commodities.”
That’s works as a summary for pretty much all redpill bullshit.

So beautifully put. Thank you. It works for their attitudes to other women, other men, and other animals.

dhag85
8 years ago

At my local animal hospital, they will call out the pet’s name in the waiting room when it’s their turn to see the doctor. The dogs are so funny to watch. They’re all like “THAT’S ME, THAT’S ME! How does she know my NAME? It’s my turrrrrn wooof wooof woof”

rick
rick
8 years ago

Its true. Women need to return to a natural state that includes make-up, painted nails, dresses, feminine hair, and regular exercise routines at corporate run gyms. You know, all the stuff that grows wild in the forest along with the woolly mammoths, the mushrooms and the sabre toothed tigers.

Ellesar
Ellesar
8 years ago

Ms_Xeno – the most predictable thing about these guys is that they will be illogical and inconsistent.

I am beginning to wonder if they write this crap in an attempt to feature in a post here! I base this on the fact that these kinds of rants just seem to be a stream of consciousness that spills out of a moronic mind. Surely they know that the world isn’t like that, that women are not like that?

I am not saying it is satire – oh no, nothing as well thought out as that, but it does seem like the most appalling attention seeking behaviour – ‘how can I get the most attention with the least effort?’.

I don’t spend much time trying to understand it, as IRL I am free of this kind of painful ranting, but I am a little intrigued by the mindset of someone, or a whole group of people in the case of ROK, who so persistently and dedicatedly express misogyny in so many permutations, and have such totalitarian solutions to the ‘woman problem’.

Ælfscýne
Ælfscýne
8 years ago

So dogs are capable of unconditional love and at the same time they can never love a man the way he loves them? Because a man’s love is conditional?

Sounds about right when it comes to this guy, based on weird descriptions he has for good women and dogs. I don’t wish this kind of owner to any dog nor this kind of partner to any person.

BritterSweet
8 years ago

Wow. I’m a dog lover who sometimes thinks dogs are better company than humans, but this is just absurd.

And whoever it was who said dogs have individual personalities, I can attest to that. At doggie daycare, I know several dogs by their own quirks and mannerisms.

Not much else to say except that I want to add to the cute dogs in this thread. Shiba Inus: dogs for cat people.

Helenawelena
Helenawelena
8 years ago

I believe this is possibly the only place on the internet where this sort of thing is identified as the nauseating drivel it is. This kind of vitriol is all over the web, it saturates any comment section of anything that discusses not only feminism, but usually women in general and it goes unchallenged.

mockingbird
mockingbird
8 years ago

RedPillers – This is our recently adopted dog telling you that you’re not good enough for her:

http://m.imgur.com/Xmz5iMT.jpg

re: dogs and reciprocity: I’m pretty sure that she believes her duties to include licking my face if I have to sit or kneel on the floor for any reason; convincing us all of the hidden benefits of having a 50 lb dog in you lap; and baying at deer, wild turkeys, and squirrels (all of which she knows are bent upon breaking into our house…she always looks so satisfied and does her happy prance afterwards).

Reflecting upon that list, I’ve got to agree with her – RPers simply aren’t worthy of all that awesome from her or anyone else.

Michael Brew
Michael Brew
8 years ago

Seeing these guys express the sentiment that women are internally just like children or animals really makes me understand why they also tend to be so supportive of pedo… I’m sorry “ephebophilia” and “hebephilia.” After all, how can you condemn statutory rape – or, really, any consent-based sexual ethics – if you think adults are just as incapable of consent.

Bananananana dakry
Bananananana dakry
8 years ago

@Ellesar

I am beginning to wonder if they write this crap in an attempt to feature in a post here!

“YEY, I GOT ON WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH.”
“Uh, Lenny… you know… that’s bad.”
“Ooops, uh… right, sorry guys. My bad.”