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Red Pillers Wonder: Why Didn’t Bill Cosby Just Bang Hot Brazilian Babes Instead?

Roosh fans wonder: Why didn't Bill Cosby just go to Brazil?
Roosh fans wonder: Why didn’t Bill Cosby just go to Brazil?

Over on the Roosh V Forum, the assembled Red Pill Alpha Dudes are sharing their thoughtful opinions on Bill Cosby’s arrest yesterday. And by thoughtful, I mean “nauseating.”

For some reason, an enormous number of their comments reference Brazil and its “feminine young female locals.”

The sound of retching you may hear in the background is just me.

Deepdiver asks the question that is on everyone’s mind, and by “everyone” I mean “just him.” Why, instead of “using pills for thrills” on American “beezie beatches,” didn’t the famous Cosby just go to Brazil where he could have found “some feminine young female locals looking for some fame game after glow.”

Was Bill a CAD with no game using pills for thrills – yes – but all these beezie beatches waiting 10, 15, 20 or almost 30 years to get even after the statute of limitations ran out and they are now hard old shriveled up post wall hitters and broke assed beezies looking to score a National Enquirer interview fee… makes me think that Bill was unlucky enough to make it onto these Beezies top 10 Phock lists when they were young and hot but now old and dried up are desperately trying to crassly cash in. I did not intend to defend Bill as I basically consider him dumb for allowing himself to be so badly scandalized in his golden years… time for Bill to move to Brazil and find some feminine young female locals looking for some fame game after glow.

“Beezie” by the way, is slang for “bitch,” as is “beatches.” So “beezie beatches” literally means “bitch bitches.”

Rpg thinks — and I use that term loosely — that the real target of the arrest is … “every man on earth.”

This is all theatrics of the highest order. Bill isnt going to get prosecuted. They are pushing him in every way possible to settle out of court.

Uh, this is a criminal case, not a civil lawsuit. It’s not about money. You can’t settle criminal cases “out of court.”

The powers that be want every man on earth served notice that there is no more fuck and forget. The price of vag in the USA is in the stratosphere and all men must lay down and take it. Sorry bitches but we have reverse engineered your bullshit against you and we arent laying down.

Cosby will win.

Speakeasy, meanwhile, is appalled by Cosby’s behavior. Or at least  by his choice of women to (allegedly) rape.

You know what man, the hell with Cosby. If he would fuck with a “woman” that looks like Kenny G crossed with Carrot Top in drag when he’s worth half a billion, he deserves what he gets. Did he really want that so bad that he needed to put shit in her drink?? Unreal.

Speakeasy also thinks Cosby should have booked a flight to Brazil.

Dude could’ve gone to Brazil or Colombia and stuffed a mansion with ass for hire like this and had ZERO legal ramifications, like Justin Bieber does:

Today I Learned that Justin Bieber is a Red Pill role model.

Instead his stupid ass drugs hags I wouldn’t fuck if I was released from prison after a 20 year stint. How much of a simp is he. At this point he deserves what he gets for stupidity alone. I’m done with him. I don’t care about the guy at this point. Any man with that type of wealth shouldn’t be fucking with American women, period, not when you’ve got all the options in the world.

Eradicator is also hung up on the Brazil thing.

The girl he allegedly raped looks like a [transphobic slur]. What the hell Bill! He could have lived like a king in South America or Asia and not going after ugly women’s basketball players at Temple.

The “girl” in question was actually director of operations for the Temple Women’s Basketball team, but never mind.

Mr. Lemon, meanwhile, proclaims the case to be a “modern lynching,” despite knowing nothing about the case, or Cosby, or, for that matter, lynching.

When you read the history of how lynchings happened back in the old days…you realize this is just a modern lynching.

1. Some white girl gets bored, fucks a black man
2. Immediately after the sex, she grabs her clothes, runs out of the house and starts screaming “Rape! Oh goodness, that black devil raped me!”
3. The entire town goes crazy, drags terrified black man out in the streets
4. They torture and then eventually hang him in the public square. Note that it’s always the women…the married ladies, the hags, the girls…who are in FRONT of the crowd. The women are screeching and foaming at the mouth with hatred as the black man is killed.

Bill Cosby fucked thousands of white chicks, groupies, during his career. White girls threw themselves at him like the sluts they are. Now they are having the fun of lynching him.

It’s a strange argument to see someone make on Roosh’s forum, given Roosh’s recent attempts to ingratiate himself with the white supremacist crowd. But apparently the Roosh forum crowd hates rape accusers more than it hates black men — or at least black men accused of rape.

MdWanderer thinks it’s all a big conspiracy:

[T]he media is working lockstep with the entertainment industry to crucify Cosby. The MSM isn’t interested in reporting and gathering facts; they are agenda driven and have been for some time. When Cosby came out with his ‘Pound Cake’ speech admonishing the black community for single parent households, crime, ignorance, etc., they knew that Black America would listen because of his track record of support for [historically black colleges] and promotion of positive images of African Americans in the media. If Herman Cain or Condoleeza Rice gave those speeches, nobody would care. The entertainment industry wants to keep doing what it does best; keep blacks ignorant.

Weirdly, this comment is one of the very few in the thread that has any connection with reality, at least if you strip away all the conspiracy nonsense.

The person who got us talking about Cosby’s alleged rapes again, after all, was comedian Hannibal Buress, who is, yes, someone in the entertainment industry. And someone with an agenda, that agenda being disgust with moralizing rapists. Buress brought up the subject in a standup routine because, as a black man, he was sick of seeing an apparent serial rapist offering self-righteous, patronizing “advice” to “pull your pants up black people, I was on TV in the ‘80s.”

Apparently the mere existence of human beings who genuinely think rape is a bad thing is so bewildering to Roosh’s fans that they have to turn to conspiracy theory for an explanation.

EDIT: Fixed a mangled sentence.

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Shalimar
Shalimar
4 years ago
Lkeke35
Lkeke35
4 years ago

Okay, I know this was suppposed to be a semi-serious post, of interest of PoC and all, but once I got to “bitch bitches” I totally lost it.
I couldn’t stop giggling the more I kept reading.

Judas Peckerwood
4 years ago

These nasty bottom-feeders would find a way to defend Hitler if it enabled them to demean women in some way. Oxygen thieves, every last one of them.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
4 years ago

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/hdch.gif

I’m…I’m gonna go play some VtMB.

Did you know if you dance long enough, you gain back Humanity? Do you think that works in real life and could Red Pillers give it a try?

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

Oh please, RedPillers. Your arguments are beyond stupid.

Of course your fallen hero went to Brazil and raped women there. Duh! He probably raped women on every continent, with the possible exception of Antarctica. And he got away with it for a long, long time. But now that there are minor cracks in the patriarchy, the law has decided to go after him. Finally.

So weep, RedPillers, weep for the fact that rapists — even elderly superstar rapists! — have a slightly greater chance of being prosecuted these days.

“So the last shall be first, and the first last” (Matthew 20:16).

zoon echon logon
zoon echon logon
4 years ago

Rapists generally rape people because they like raping people, not because they couldn’t get sex any other way. The fact that Cosby had other options is a case in point.

History Nerd
History Nerd
4 years ago

The judge who released records from the civil case agreed with Hannibal Buress. Cosby was still giving “advice” even though his acting and comedy career was over, so he had less of a right to privacy.

Caligula Rex
Caligula Rex
4 years ago

Have the US just crowned their Jimmy Savile?

Zeb Berryman
Zeb Berryman
4 years ago

“he powers that be want every man on earth served notice that there is no more fuck and forget.”

Well no rape and forget, but most people with even the smallest modicum of decency would see that as a good thing.

Bina
4 years ago

time for Bill to move to Brazil and find some feminine young female locals looking for some fame game after glow.

Bad news, boys…even if the Brazilian “feminine young female locals” knew or cared who he was, they’d still be avoiding him like something a stray canine local dog left behind on the sidewalk. Which, by now, is all he is.

This is all theatrics of the highest order. Bill isnt going to get prosecuted. They are pushing him in every way possible to settle out of court.

Somebody please explain to these Red Pillocks that CRIMINAL charges are not pressed for the purposes of obtaining a cash settlement. One doesn’t have to be a lawyer to know the difference between that and a CIVIL lawsuit, but one does have to be substantially smarter than the average Red Pillock!

The powers that be want every man on earth served notice that there is no more fuck and forget. The price of vag in the USA is in the stratosphere and all men must lay down and take it. Sorry bitches but we have reverse engineered your bullshit against you and we arent laying down.

Oh noes, however shall we cope? Oh yeah: With better men than these, or maybe women, or persons of varied and/or indeterminate gender, or even…(gasp)…VIBRATORS.

Bill Cosby fucked thousands of white chicks, groupies, during his career. White girls threw themselves at him like the sluts they are. Now they are having the fun of lynching him.

Pretty sure that’s not how it went down.

Also, a substantial number of the women he abused were BLACK.

Nice try, though…moron.

[T]he media is working lockstep with the entertainment industry to crucify Cosby. The MSM isn’t interested in reporting and gathering facts; they are agenda driven and have been for some time. When Cosby came out with his ‘Pound Cake’ speech admonishing the black community for single parent households, crime, ignorance, etc., they knew that Black America would listen because of his track record of support for [historically black colleges] and promotion of positive images of African Americans in the media. If Herman Cain or Condoleeza Rice gave those speeches, nobody would care. The entertainment industry wants to keep doing what it does best; keep blacks ignorant.

Uh-huh. Keep telling yourself that. Actually, anyone who made those speeches would come under fire, because that shit’s inflammatory and false as hell. And because it credits abuse as a sound child-rearing tactic.

And because no one likes a smug jackass who plainly forgot where they came from, and who now turns around and snurks at those who are still stuck in the ghetto. And who can’t analyze white society’s role in creating that ghetto, for shit.

Joe "The Inanity" Klemmer
Joe "The Inanity" Klemmer
4 years ago

Shouldn’t that be “bitchy bitches” instead?

Jurgan
4 years ago

“Uh, this is a criminal case, not a civil lawsuit. It’s not about money. You can’t settle criminal cases “out of court.””

Well, there are plea bargains. Still doesn’t mean you can use a plea bargain to get rich.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
4 years ago

Remember everyone the red pill is about “self improvement” totally not them being hypocritical, apathetic, waste of skin and air, misognistic c*cks no sireebob. /s

Chaltab
Chaltab
4 years ago

The price of vag in the USA is in the stratosphere and all men must lay down and take it.

Wait, what? The price of ‘vag’ is in the stratosphere, and all men must lay down and take it? If we men are contractually required to lay down and take vag then it sounds like the price isn’t in the straosphere at all. And if we have to lay down and take all the sex women want to give us, then why the hell are you complaining? Isn’t ‘vag’ what you want?

….

Ugh…. Just thinking about TRP nonsense makes me feel contaminated, but this guy is amazing: he becomes completely incoherent within the same sentence.

MsMockingbird
MsMockingbird
4 years ago

Remember everyone the red pill is about “self improvement” totally not them being hypocritical, apathetic, waste of skin and air, misognistic c*cks no sireebob. /s

Totally read that as *sideboob* on first pass.

bluecat
bluecat
4 years ago

Nobody “has” to drug and rape someone to have sex.

If you want sex, there’s always the option of finding someone who wants to have sex right back with you.

Pretty sure Cosby (superstar as he was) might have managed that if he’d tried.

There’s also the option of finding someone who’ll have sex with you for money – and he had lots of money, so that was an option. I’m pretty sure he could have found someone willing to sell him sex in the Greater Los Angeles area or wherever it is he lived if he’d really put his mind to it.

If all that seems unduly onerous, there’s always your own hands, sex toys, fruit, household objects (play safely now) the entire porn industry, literature and your own filthy imagination. You need never even get off the chaise longue to get off.

Nah, if someone drugs and rapes people they meet, people they’re in social situations and work situations with – possibly even people who might have been willing potentially to consent to sex with them had they ever been asked – that’s someone who is not doing it because they “have to”, they’re doing it because they like doing it.

Because somehow, to them, over riding another person’s agency, will, personality, desires, safety and bodily integrity seems like something they just want to do.

You’d have to be pretty bad not to start asking yourself why doing that kind of stuff feels like sexy to you and not, you know, like wrong.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
4 years ago

Heh, they’ve conveniently forgotten all about the fact that Cosby has a WIFE, who is likely the only beezie beatch that’s going to be wiping the drool off his chin and making sure he doesn’t fall over the ottoman/the curb/trip on his own feet the rest of his damn life (I’m not terribly confident in the criminal charges probability of leading to real jail time – right now he faces a max 10 years and/or $25,000 fine…)…

She’s also his manager/business manager, so if he doesn’t serve time or do something stupid like flee the jurisdiction, forfeiting bail (which would REALLY piss a wife-manager off, as ‘it be fuckin’ with everyone’s dolla dolla bills yo’) and he fails to die sometime in the next couple of years – what? he’s an old dude! – then his free roaming/female guest invitation privileges will be severely curtailed. I’m still mad at that woman for saying that all the victims are just gold-digging former groupies, and if they had sex with her husband it’s because they wanted to…After the deposition became public the world knows that her husband admitted to drugging women and it was for the purpose of being able to have sex with them, what the hell Camille? I know you’ve been married to that dickbag for over 50 years so you’re too deeply invested to walk away completely, but you should have. He doesn’t deserve that kind of loyalty, even the damn Bible gives an out from a marriage when there’s adultery, and he was an adulterer something like…40+ times (conservative estimation). It’s a horrible thing to know that Camille is going to her grave knowing that she was married to a man who got off on drugging women and *then* having sex with them – groupies during his prime years would be bad enough, but there’s not enough APPLY TO THE WHOLE OF EVERYTHING-bleach to fix that EWWW knowledge of what she was sharing her marital bed with.

So feminine young female locals (not like Bill is going to be permitted to do anything but piss out of his dick after this shit anyway.) of any country can breathe a sigh of relief. Pepaw Qualuudes Cosby won’t be going anywhere for a while, and when he does it’s likely: jail; the mortuary because Pepaw is OLD now, or back home with Camille (who will chain his ass to something sturdy if she’s smart, wouldn’t want old Bill to get out and go bother the young ladies in the neighborhood resulting in further criminal charges…)

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
4 years ago

P.S.
A consensual, properly negotiated and the terms agreed upon by all parties involved poly relationship does not = adultery or bad or anything in particular in relation to morality/judgment as long as it’s between adults and everyone is fine with the arrangement. Oh, and provided that nobody is breaking the law by doing shit like raping drugged persons in the process. 🙂

Had to add that just in case.

Bina
4 years ago

Wait, what? The price of ‘vag’ is in the stratosphere, and all men must lay down and take it? If we men are contractually required to lay down and take vag then it sounds like the price isn’t in the straosphere at all. And if we have to lay down and take all the sex women want to give us, then why the hell are you complaining? Isn’t ‘vag’ what you want?

Yes, but they don’t want to do anything to please the owner of said plumbing. They just want free vagina to drop from the sky onto their exposed erections, apparently. The fact that there’s no such thing, and that all vaginas come with a person (usually a woman) attached, and that this person has wants and needs of her own, most of them having nothing to do with these dudes at all, is a mortal affront to their fragile manhood.

raysa
raysa
4 years ago

Zoon and bluecat, you summed up what I was thinking.

I am a little annoyed at the mangling that these asshats give the English language. Sometimes, I can only focus on the obvious little things, the hate is just too upsetting.

I could be standing in line next to one of these guys at the bank. Or at the store. Or the guy that roadside assistance sent to jump my car. They are everywhere with no obvious identifying factor. Really frightening.

kale
kale
4 years ago

I really hate the myth that white men arent reaponsible for lynching bc it was the evil white women “crying rape”. Particularly irksome bc black women were lynched by mobs of men.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 years ago

Totally read that as *sideboob* on first pass.

Is that like side-eye, only more emphatic?

My favorite part of these rants is how they’re so self-righteously pissed off at Bill Cosby for “wasting” his wealth and alpha status on post-wall hags. Someone needs to point out to these idiots that the victims weren’t post-wall decades ago, when Cosby actually drugged and raped them. The fact that he’s only being prosecuted now is due to rape culture and our shitty justice system, not attention whoring for money as the Rooshites think. They’re so consistently ass-over-teakettle wrong about why people do things and how the world works and which events actually happened, I wouldn’t trust them to accurately describe a tic tac toe game.

No doubt they like to think they’re much smarter and would do way better with the ladies if only they had his money and fame. Unfortunately, Cosby’s sleazy tactics illustrate just how flimsy and ridiculous their whole Hugh Hefner/Chadtopia fantasy is. It’s almost as if unlimited money and fame don’t automatically bring underage bikini models flocking to the door for consequence-free sex. And boy, do they ever get angry when the world refuses to play along with their fantasies.

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
4 years ago

Why do these fucknuggets always think South American and Asian women don’t mind being raped by creepy American assholes?

Sorry red pillers, every woman on earth wishes for no.

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
4 years ago

And Beverly Johnson and Janice Dickinson are goddamn fucking supermodels! How can these stupid reprehensible assholes make the argument that the victims are too ugly to rape? Even if too ugly to rape was a real thing, it wouldn’t even apply here!

Sorry for the drunken swears. Rape apologia just brings that out of me.

Adrian Werner
Adrian Werner
4 years ago

There is a valid question there. He had the fame and most of all money. He could have gotten the sex with young women if he wanted. Worst case scenario he would have to resort to using prostitutes. The fact that he didn’t and instead has chosen rape meant he actually enjoyed hurting those women far more than he enjoyed the actual sexual acts.

He had all the opportunity in the world for consensual sex and one that wouldn’t endanger his entire career and life. Even if you ignore the morality, it was just beyond stupid.for him. So just how much of a sick bastard he had to be, to enjoy inflicting suffering so much that he ignored all that and went for rape.

Lkeke35
Lkeke35
4 years ago

WWTH:
Not only that, but these guys didn’t even do the minimum of research on some of his victims. Some of these women are famous in the own right. They have their own damn money. Maybe not as much as him, but a Hell of a lot. Beverly Johnson is one of the most famous women in the black community. She don’t need sh*t from Bill Cosby.

A lot of you may or may not be aware of the racial angle here of the “Conspiracy to Take Down Black Men”. I work with a couple of people who like to blame a hell of a lot of sh*t that goes wrong in black peoples lives on White people being out to get us. The silly thing is they’re not wrong about the getting us part, (just look at the Criminal Justice System), but not everything in the world is a conspiracy and they’re looking in the wrong damn direction. I think of these people as being very much like the Redpill conspiracy theorists. Seeing patterns of behavior where none exist.

I hate fricking conspiracy theories! Just hate them.

I’ve tried to argue that there’s no need for white people to try to form any kind of conspiracy against Bill Cosby because:
1). His career was already pretty much over. He’s pretty much done all he’s gonna do from an entertainment perspective and is not any kind of cultural influence, right now. The time to have done that would’ve been during the time when he was most famous.
2). Bill was already on our sh*t list because of his hypocritical, finger wagging instructions on how to not be in the ghettos we never created and don’t own.
3). Now explain how this was brought to the forefront of everyone’s attention by a black man who was pissed off at him about #2. Either you vilify Buress as a patsy of “The Man”, doing their dirty work for them. Or Buress is telling the truth and Cosby is, in fact, a serial rapist.
4). And really ,how is taking down the reputations of famous black men going to disrupt the black community? Is our community so damn fragile, it can’t withstand a handful of bad seeds? It’s not like people even know Cosby. He’s a face on a TV screen, which some people have conflated with a level of importance it doesn’t deserve.
5). Also, there actually is a conspiracy surrounding this case that people like that aren’t paying attention to, like the political one surrounding the lawyers bringing the charges.

And by crediting every fricking thing that goes wrong in a black man’s life to “The Man”, you give too much and too little credit to black men for fricking up their own lives, and way too damn much smarts, credit and organization to white people. I keep trying to tell them that white people are just as variable in their behavior as we claim to be and seem to spend more than an inordinate amount of time fighting with each other, to be paying that close attention to the sh*t we are doing, as evidenced by the fact, that I’ve met more than any number of white people who were complete ignorant of even basic sh*t about black culture. It’s a wonder to me that some white people even know what Cosby is famous for.

There’s a hell of a lot of sh*t black people go through that can be caused by simple indifference, apathy, neglect or lack of compassion. Not everything is because of outright and intentional malice. (If that were the case, I suspect there wouldve been no black people left in America, at some point after slavery.)

Jeebus, don’t get me started on the whole Hotep angle, which we all discussed in another thread.

Chiomara
Chiomara
4 years ago

I am so angry that I can’t address the rest of the post. I just want to say Brazilians in general, especially young, have no idea who Bill Cosby even is.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

Thank you for that, Lkeke35. That was inspiring.

In particular, thank you for this particular paragraph, because you highlight something that I see all the time and is something I wish would just stop, and you absolutely nailed it:

And really ,how is taking down the reputations of famous black men going to disrupt the black community? Is our community so damn fragile, it can’t withstand a handful of bad seeds?

If I had a pound for every time I’ve heard someone defend a rapist in a position of trust by arguing that publicising their rapes will “disrupt the community”, I’d be as rich as Cosby. It’s an absolutely loathsome argument to make and yet one that I end up hearing all the time. It makes positions of trust even more appealing for rapists, and prevents people from being able to feel safe around those they should most be able to feel safe around. To say that I am sick of it understates the case.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

@EJ

And it’s not just rapists; paedophiles, domestic abusers and child abusers all get the same “Defense.” I learned that last one first-hand.

DES
DES
4 years ago

Brazil and its “feminine young female locals.”

I lost it there. In French, or at least in certain parts of France, “Brésilienne” (fem. Brazilian) is slang for a cross-dressing male prostitute. I don’t think that’s quite what Deepdiver had in mind.

I’ll read the rest of the post once I’ve stopped laughing and gotten up from the floor.

Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
4 years ago

The fact that these guy willfully ignore is that they can “fuck and forget” until they forget how as long as it’s consensual.

It’s almost as if they don’t like sex to be consensual! /s

teiresias
teiresias
4 years ago

Adrian:

That’s the key point in all of this. Even if he and Camille have an open marriage, there’s absolutely no reason or excuse to have gotten drugs involved. Not to mention the choice of Quaaludes is more than a little strange at any point after about 1980; quite simply, even if the drug use was consensual (which, in most cases, it clearly wasn’t, but humor me), it’s kinda fucked up to give someone a drug they’re likely completely unfamiliar with. It’s sort of like how you hear about epidemics of junkie deaths like the one that’s been dogging New England for the last year or so — I guarantee you some supplier’s been spiking the works with fentanyl, which is an excellent way to make sure your end users wind up dead.

ms_xeno
ms_xeno
4 years ago

EJ:

“…If I had a pound for every time I’ve heard someone defend a rapist in a position of trust by arguing that publicising their rapes will “disrupt the community”…

Yup. It’s happened in other types of communities, too. I can think of one notorious local specimen who was ejected, after many many of his victims came forward. That particular activist community still exists, and is hopefully *stronger* precisely because the survivors know they’re appreciated and listened to.

Bina
4 years ago

Bill was unlucky enough to make it onto these Beezies top 10 Phock lists when they were young and hot but now old and dried up are desperately trying to crassly cash in.

Uh-huh. Aside from the fact that most women, now as then, don’t keep “lists” of men (famous or otherwise) that they want to “Phock” (ugh, what stupid nomenclature these dudes have for EVERYFUCKINGTHING), the fact remains that they didn’t pursue him; he went after them. And lured them right into his spiderweb of drugs and drinks and WTFery. If they’d wanted him, wouldn’t he have been able to dispense with the drugs (which he doctor-shopped to get prescriptions for), and the alcohol, and the ruses to get them alone and helpless?

And if any of them are “desperately trying” to do anything, it is to forget what he did to them. But they can’t, even if he fed them knockout drops to make sure they’d be fuzzy on the details of the night before. And so that they wouldn’t be able to put together a coherent account to tell the authorities even if they did work up the nerve to take it to the cops. Instant complainant discredit in a bottle? That’s Quaaludes, baby!

And man, are these Red Pillpoppers ever stupid for not even thinking of that.

PS: I’m especially grossed out at how he tried to get a teenage Janis Ian blackballed from appearing on TV because she dared to come on set with a chaperone. So he couldn’t get her alone or feed her booze and drugs. Ugh ugh ughitty ugh UGH.

Lkeke35
Lkeke35
4 years ago

Another thing that pisses me off is, these women trusted and believed the hype of Bill Cosby. When he offered to help make their dreams come true, and help them make it further into the business, they trusted him as much as his celebrity worshipping fans do, and had not the slightest idea that he would ever harm them. Remember these women grew up watching the Cosby show, too. They grew up following his career just as much as his defenders did and he took full advantage of that.

But these same celebrity worshipping hypocrites want to vilify these women for doing the EXACT same damn thing that any of them would do, if they met a celebrity who wanted to get to know them better, hang out with them or invite them to their home. This fan worship is exactly what they’re engaging in when they defend his criminal behavior.

They don’t want to see the connection between themselves and the victims, and want to place themselves above the victims, while engaging in the same behavior Cosby took advantage of.

My question to his defenders is this: Do you trust Cosby enough to spend an evening alone with him? Do you trust any female member of your family to be alone with him? Does your defense of this man extend to sacrificing your own bodily integrity? It’s pretty easy to defend Cosby when it’s not you or one of your loved ones in his crosshairs and never will be.

The easiest thing in the world for some people to do is armchair quarterbacking a situation they ain’t never gonna experience in their entire life. I guess this makes them feel good because empathy is just too fricking hard.

ThatBear
ThatBear
4 years ago

Slightly off-topic but I STILL don’t understand the “alpha” thing. I mean, I know the etymology, I know the definition, I know the use cases. But I can’t figure out whether manospherians/ redpillers (in general) want to BE alphas, or think alphas are evil, or… both?

I think it might be both. Like, Vox D and Aurini are just openly into being eeevil (that Dark Enlightenment bullhonk), because they think our standard moral systems were designed by stupid evil feminists to disadvantage men, and they live in Opposite Land. But your average redpiller seems to have a weird sort of hate-crush on this “alpha” persona. Like, “Alphas are evil psychopathic narcissists who always get any women and also all the money, I could do that if I wanted, but I don’t because I’m a Nice Guy (but I totally could do that if I stopped Being Nice.)”

Clearly, my woman-loving brain is too soft to make sense of the hard, cold logic of the manosphere.

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

That Bear,

I think it’s both. Mainly because the manuresphere is very inconsistent in their arguments and their opinions. They will take whatever position allows them to blame or be angry at women. If they’ve done something assholish and are getting called out for it, they’re being alphas and that’s just how alphas roll. The bitch should have seen it coming and probably wanted it. But if they get rejected or something doesn’t go their way, than they’re hapless betas, victims of the gynocracy, and why don’t those stupid bitches like nice guys like me!?

Basically, don’t expect any consistency from anyone in the manosphere other than “women are bad.”

ms_xeno
ms_xeno
4 years ago

LKeke35:

But these same celebrity worshipping hypocrites want to vilify these women for doing the EXACT same damn thing that any of them would do, if they met a celebrity who wanted to get to know them better, hang out with them or invite them to their home. This fan worship is exactly what they’re engaging in when they defend his criminal behavior.

[golf clap]

kale
kale
4 years ago

I think its worth mentioning that society is much more eager to villify a black rapist than a white one. See, for example: Bill Clinton

kale
kale
4 years ago

Also wanna reiterate what someone else said: white people created the ghetto, and all the problems therein. Interesting to see a rapist victim blaming in terms of racism.

teiresias
teiresias
4 years ago

Kale:

Given the extreme level of scrutiny given Clinton during the impeachment hearing vs the complete failure to come up with anything worth impeaching him over, not to mention the fact that Clinton strikes me as the type to be a serial offender if he did rape but no credible allegations have appeared since he left office, I think it’s fair to say that those allegations are unlikely to have any substance.

Of course, there could be a flood of allegations tomorrow, and I’d have to change my mind. But for the time being, no.

brian
brian
4 years ago

Pandapool:
I don’t know if you’re still watching this thread, but I’m going to answer your VtMB question as if you were serious because I’m a big rpg nerd and can’t resist. 🙂
no. because these people, as awful as they are, ARE still mortal humans, and as such, they don’t HAVE a Humanity score but rather a Morality score (probably a very low one). Humanity isn’t about whether you’re good or bad, just about how “human,” how “alive,” you still feel.

Scifimaster92
Scifimaster92
4 years ago

Why do these fucknuggets always think South American and Asian women don’t mind being raped by creepy American assholes?

It’s because these MRAs firmly believe all the overtly racist stereotypes of women of colour seen in pornography, in this case of Latin women as being hot and racy and of East Asian women as being compliant and sexually submissive.

AK
AK
4 years ago

Well, there are plea bargains. Still doesn’t mean you can use a plea bargain to get rich.

I’m not sure I’d compare plea bargains with settling out of court in a civil trial. In plea bargains, you basically agree to plead guilty to a lesser charge or in exchange for the prosecutor seeking a lesser sentence, usually (so, maybe you plead guilty to possession instead of going on trial for possession with intent to distribute). But you usually still have to plead guilty in criminal court, often to serious charges that will impact your future life in major ways.

Civil settlements don’t typically require you to acknowledge responsibility. They’re also usually private, rather than public and easily checked during a basic background search, so they have much less impact on a person’s future. It seems like a small point, but the ways it plays out in practice are very different.

This might be stating the obvious, but I have some strong feelings about the way plea bargains are used in the US courts and comparing them to civil settlements bothers me. 😉

Also, hi anyone who might remember me! 🙂 I used to post a lot but I’ve just been lurking for ages.

AK
AK
4 years ago

And the fact that I’m a week late to replying to threads may be why I don’t post much anymore…sorry for the necromancy!

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
4 years ago

@brian

I wasn’t watching the thread but that’s informative.

One day I will be able to afford the VtM books and I will know stuff about it.