It’s fair to say that Roosh Valizadeh, the odious “pickup” artist perhaps best known for his call to end rape by legalizing it, is not really a big fan of Muslims.
In the past several months, his Return of Kings site has posted an assortment of alarmist, Jingoistic attacks on Muslims with titles such as
Global Elites Caught Plotting The Islamic Invasion Of Europe
Christians In Europe Need Safe Spaces From Muslims
And perhaps my favorite:
Saudi Arabia Wants To Help Outbreed Non-Muslims By Building 200 Mosques In Germany
Roosh himself, in a post with the just-a-teensy-bit-overwrought title Europe Is On The Precipice, warned that unless (white) Europeans get their act together and “expel [the] incompatible Muslim horde from their nations” this terrible invasion of brown folks will “surely lead to the end of Europe and the demise of their own people.”
Roosh helpfully announced that he, personally, would lead the way, Red-Dawn-style, by rounding up a couple of dozen armed stalwarts of the white race, taking over a small town in France or Germany, and violently expelling the Muslim “invaders.”
WOLVERINES!
Well, hypothetically, at least. That’s what he said he would do “if I was an angry French or German man.” Since he’s neither French nor German, he has decided to fight the invaders on the Internet from the relative safety of his apartment.
Now, you might not expect someone who has, hypothetically at least, appointed himself the leader of an armed “rebellion” against Muslims to, only a few weeks later, try to convince his followers that, hey, these Muslims actually have a lot of good ideas, once you look into it.
But — hey, guess what! — that’s just what Roosh has done.
In a blog post yesterday, Roosh suggested to his readers that they could find numerous “answers to Modern Western problems” in the writings of Ali ibn Abi Talib. Yes, THAT Ali ibn Abi Talib, Commander of the Faithful and son-in-law of the Prophet Muhammad.
So what’s convinced Roosh that maybe these Muslims have some good ideas after all? Let’s let him explain:
While many of us here do not agree with the sometimes violent spread of Islam to European lands, their views on the sexes and marriage fully account for the true nature of women that we’re all too aware of.
Islamists understand that a woman can become feral if not constrained by a strong patriarch in the home. When a culture fails to incorporate this understanding, the result is what we have in the modern West, of women who trade having a healthy family to become degenerates and sterile freakshows.
Roosh’s new solution to the “Muslim invasion” of Europe? White Europeans need to start thinking more like Muslim fundamentalists. And white European women need to start popping out more babies, tout suite.
Wolverines?
MexicanHotChocolate:
Maybe he thinks that was like Uber?
I also want to say that Europe is made up of many countries that have had various responses to the refugee crisis – Germany is taking in over 800,000 documented refugees this year, and in least in my area is being quite supportive of undocumented people – I’m on a list to provide emergency accommodation for undocumented refugees, the list is maintained by a registered, gov supported charity, no one has been raided or even hassled. The Scandinavian countries also take in a lot, given their small populations and inhabitable land size. I would say that Northern Europe generally has a more welcoming refugee policy than the US – Germany takes more than the US in total, let alone per capita or per square kilometre.
Other countries, like Poland and Hungary, are being much more anti-refugee and racist in their policies. When given the choice the refugees don’t want to go there anyway. The EU insists that its members takes a reasonable amount of refugees without regard to race or religion, and that some countries aren’t pulling their weight or trying to bluster about which refugees they will take is the primary debate in the European Parliament right now. It’s hardly like everyone is just jumping on the racist bandwagon.
Moocow, I went with “tout suite” because that’s the Americanized version of it. A lot of people write “toot sweet,” which is kind of horrible.
All signs point to Roosh V having a bit of an identity crisis at the moment. Muslim/Not Muslim. Kids/ No Kids. PUA/neo-masculinity guru who might get married. People who dedicate themselves to a kind of hedonism that treats other people as mere objects sometimes start to feel a bit lost. Somewhere, someone in his upbringing tried to do the right thing and his doubt and angst is probably a product of the disconnect between the values someone tried to instil in him and his utter moral bankruptcy. His earlier flirtation with his Muslim identity probably didn’t get quite the reaction he wanted and, ever-the-attention-seeker, he switched tack.
Alas, whatever may be good in him will probably lose the fight. I predict MGTOW somewhere in the middle distance of his future.
@ Frank
Britain of course does have its share of racists, however as there’s probably no country in the world that has benefited more from immigration than us, they’re fortunately a noisy minority.
We’ve had black citizens since at least 54AD (and almost certainly well before that; they’re just the documented ones) and a significant muslim presence since our days of fucking around in what was India. We’ve got muslim restaurants that were established before there was even a Untied States of America. It’s often forgotten that when Oliver Cromwell ‘allowed’ the Jews back into England he also extended an invitation to ‘Mohammedans’ (admittedly that was with more of a commercial motivation, but still)
Islamophobia is a recent phenomena. In fact there was quite an obsession with all things muslim in the higher echelons of 19th century society.
So please come; the Welsh border castles are pretty spectacular.
Of course, it’s possibly relevant to our discussion that ‘Welsh’ is English for ‘foreigner’ but that just illustrates how eventually we all become friends.
The irony of this sort of debate is that all my muslim friends talk about islamic extremists in terms that would certainly breach the comments policy here!
MRA’s often give the impression of inhabiting some alternate mirror universe that’s quite different from our own, but not Roosh V. He clearly inhabits at least a dozen weird mirror universes as different from out own as they are from one another.
‘The days of an all-white Europe are long gone and they ain’t coming back.’
The days of an all-white Europe never really existed.
http://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/
Slightly off topic but really not, given the name of this blog. Rebecca Solnit has a piece about the myth of “man the hunter” — you know, that whole “we hunted the mammoth thing.
http://harpers.org/archive/2015/06/shooting-down-man-the-hunter/
I’m wondering if any of you might be willing to do me a little favor? I’ve used up my one free harpers magazine story for this month, so I can’t read this, so if you go to read this could you copy the text and email me? dfutrelle at gmail. Thanks!
Done.
Also, quite an interesting article.
@ David F
On its way to you now sir.
Thanks to both of you! Now to read it.
Ah, never mind, you can never have enough copies of that sort of thing. 🙂
@Alan:
What is the legality of what we both just did? What is the morality? Are they different? Discuss.
@ EJ
Ha, you know me. I’ll start off ok but then end up with something like “Of course, this just goes to illustrate that [something generally regarded as terrible] wasn’t all bad” so perhaps I’ll keep schtumm.
[Technically we may have committed some offences under international copyright law but I doubt if Harper’s lawyers will be kicking down the door]
Good read and all, but it was written by a feeemale. How can we trust it? What if she was on her period!?
Kidding of course! The points in it are the same ones we always make when a “we hunted the mammoth for you ” troll comes around.
It never sinks in. Belief in biotruths is unshakable and invulnerable to facts.
I also suspect that he’s desperately trying to find the identity (branding, really) that will make him the most ebook hustle money, somehow. I’ve wondered before if he really has a strong sense of self, or if he’s content finding vile people willing to spend money and then be their mirror/guru.
There’s an interesting footnote to the San anthropology thing. Some decades later a team did follow up work on Thomas’s studies.
Initially the findings were similar, i.e. the San demonstrated their hunting prowess by running down game over long periods etc thus illustrating their amazing tracking skills and endurance.
After a while though, it became clear that the normal way of hunting was just for people to take some supplies and sit down in the savannah chatting and playing games. After a few days the animals got used to the presence of humans and happily wandered amongst them. They then got clubbed on the head.
Good to see that the phenomena of blokes making stuff look harder than it actually is to give a good impression isn’t a new thing.
SweatyExaminationGoblin:
Hello, hello! Have a welcome package! Take two!
Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the life of Roosh Rakewell!
http://www.artoftheprint.com/artistpages/hogarth_william_arakesprogresscompletesetofeight.htm
And Three Snakes wins the thread! William Hogarth is one of my favorite artists.
Fascist and white nationalist groups tend to be divided on Islam (in addition to whether Arabs and Persians count as “white”). Some like the more anti-Semitic Islamist groups and others are thoroughly Islamophobic. Maybe Roosh is just desperate to get any far right followers.
I’ve thought that Roosh lacked a strong identity since I found out he existed.
I don’t understand the selective outrage here over Fortress Europe; why should it be up to Europe to offer permanent resettlement to 90% of the asylum seekers, whereas countries like Japan and China (who’s involvement has, along with Russia’s, helped prolong the conflict) refuse to take any? Australia could take more, so could Brazil, the US, Canada, and New Zealand (I’m from NZ). These are already multicultural societies.
He knows mosques aren’t sex clubs, right?
I suspect they do sort of function as dating agencies though, churches certainly do after all.
The worst part is that my long term failure to learn French involves me doing that sort of thing in my head — the de is silent, du is not, est like in Latin but the t is silent, thé is tea but spelt the, etc.
French is weird, but at least the always irregular “to be” verb seems to follow Latin, so I don’t really have to relearn that one! (Praise be to Wheelock, for the first and only time ever)