Sometimes cis men who hate women get so fed up with all the unfair advantages women allegedly have in the contemporary world — the bon bons, the free dinners, the wide assortment of penis pics sent to them by their many suitors — that they threaten to become women themselves. Just to prove to you ladies how easy you have it!
Indeed, the Red Pill Redditor who calls himself a1004 is so convinced that women have it so easy that he predicts a giant wave of these gender upgrades in the near future, as more and more men realize how many cool perks they can get just by putting on a dress and proclaiming themselves women.
Or just by proclaiming themselves women, without even bothering to change their wardrobes, or anything else, at all.
A1004 — who clearly knows less about the realities of trans life than, I dunno, my cats –is convinced that within a few years, at most, Europeans and Americans will be able to officially change gender by just ticking a box on a government form.
As sexuality orientations are becoming more complex, and we are supposed to accept anything – like woman who change their sex just to became a gay man or the reversal – or even giving them more rights than people with standard and boring sexualities, it make sense to change just for the advantages.
Who knew that trans folks actually had “more rights” and easier lives than their cis counterparts?
Oh, and fellas, in case you’re worried about having your you-know-what you-know-whatted, don’t worry, you won’t have to bother with hormones or surgery or any of that stuff!
I don’t say you go into a terrible operation that will mutilate your body. You can be a woman’s mind trapped in a man’s body or whatever random crazy idea you decide. You will be able to change your gender in your legal documents just because you want, no questions asked.
Just think of all the advantages! Like, for example, getting to use women’s bathrooms!
No, really, that’s bullet point number four in A1004’s Top Five list of the amazing advantages you’ll get from making the switch. Apparently he’s cribbing some of his ideas from the fundamentalists and TERFs who consider the idea of trans women using women’s bathrooms as a sign of the apocalypse.
But let’s let him explain:
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You can do sports in the women categories. From being amateur you can even became professional.
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Probably if your wife have a baby, you will get the right to get double maternity leaves.
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You will have chances to work in positions with female quotas, like engineer jobs. Your dream of working in Google is easier to get if you just change your gender instead of studding harder or getting an extra master.
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You can start a social earthquake any time you decide you want to go to women’s restrooms. Because you can.
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Are you getting divorced? It can be a great legal technique to get more assets or even the childcare.
But wait, there’s more!
Options are endless. Funny fact: probably not a single disadvantage. It will make total sense when women’s rights go through the roof (a pattern we see increasing constantly) and rights for weird-sexual people allow any kind of dissonance. In Europe, where same sex marriage is widespread allowed, it is a matter of months we will start seeing this.
So invest in bon bon stocks, because they’re gonna be going through the roof!
Naturally, the regulars on the Red Pill subreddit are convinced that this will totally happen, and that, oh boy, it’s going to piss off women — or at least those women who aren’t actually cis dudes declaring that they’re women out of spite.
As PandaMania3 sees it,
This is literally taking the Feminist bullshit and giving it an amused mastery upgrade.
Abetterarsonist, meanwhile, thinks of Dungeons and Dragons.
This is like min-maxing in d&d. “No, my character is a male who thinks he’s a woman, so he gets a +2 circumstance bonus to professional victim checks.”
For redpillstoner, though, even a boatload of lady advantages won’t convince him to give up being a dude.
No matter how many advantages women get I would never give up my masculinity and I’m willing to bet most men here feel the same way
Not changshuaidiao, a Navy man who says he’s more than ready to make the switch:
I’m in the navy, and I’ve already decided that if they allow transgenderedism in the navy I’m going to identify as a butch lesbian woman so I can grow my hair out and not shave, as based on some of the stache I see chicks sporting, there don’t seem to be any regs requiring females to groom their facial hair. All the perks without any drawbacks, and maybe some really open-minded lesbians will let me pound th…
I’m just going to cut that quote off there. You can probably guess where it was going. Even when they’re pretending that they want to become women, Red Pill dudes can’t shut up about their dicks.
WWTH — I can do the first 6 seconds of the uneven bar routine… probably, I’ve been doing it on the lower trapeze so I’m jumping about half as high as she is. And this is after weekly practice (and way too much planking) for six months. These guys would not even be able to get onto a performance height trapeze, much less do anything besides sit there.
And I’m nothing like ready for performing at my studio. So yeah, the idea that checking “female” on a form would make them ready to do gymnastics or acrobatics or any of the female heavy sports is laughable… front balance, fall forward laughing, spread legs to catch ropes, land in catchers position… yeah, I could do that, assuming the balance is for all of 3 seconds.
Pandapool — I haven’t made a mental survey of women’s rooms, I’m definitely only in a bathroom to do my business and GTFO. I’ve just noticed comfy chairs in women’s rooms, and never men’s rooms — might be cuz lines, might be cuz women tend to go in groups for whatever reason (least sexist theory I’ve heard is that one decides the lull in convo is a good time to go and the rest figure fuck it, she’ll cause the lull to settle, might as well go now too).
Another random bathroom thing, I’ve seen urinals decided for those without a penis — you sorta squat over them, which idk, only really takes the door out of the equation? But yeah, they’re a thing, that exist, in concept at least. But then so as standard style urinals with things like games that function based on pee pressure and accuracy, so idfk Japan, because of course they’re Japanese. Seriously, you want weird bathroom inventions, Japan’s got the market covered there (for eco friendly ones try Canada, or Germany, though the later is more eco friendly housing). And for just fucking cool ones that I tracked down for the second time earlier — Czech Republic, Ravak’s avocado series, that shit defines Itty Bitty Living Space.
…I appear to know more about bathroom design than I could possibly need to given my architecture dabblings will likely always only be on paper.
The reason for couches and comfy chairs in women’s restrooms was because in the olden days people assumed we’d have to lie down and/or sit and rest for various female reasons. Also, some female facilities have a front room that is for checking makeup and clothing, and thus has vanity features. Basically, the relics of a bygone age.
I’ve seen only a few of these bathrooms with couches and comfy chairs. There aren’t too many of them now, and I don’t know if there ever were very many.
I think it would be a great idea to bring them back. If a woman is experiencing cramps or a potential miscarriage, it’s good if she can lie down quickly.
Of course, men have physical issues, too. So I say couches and comfy chairs for everyone!
The COMFY CHAIR?!
…sorry, couldn’t help myself.
Different kind of brain bleach. A good larf.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/20/stoner-sloth-anti-drug-campaign-gets-reality-check-as-medical-experts-walk-away#comment-65416113
Government health campaigns at their finest.
“in which there exists something like Calvin & Hobbes’s transmogrifier to allow people to more or less magically transform their bodies into different shapes to switch sex that way. ”
i wish 🙁
Slightly OT:
WHTM-ish protest in Tokyo
“Unpopular men, who don’t have a girlfriend or are not married, are overly discriminated. We want to break this barrier,” he told AFP amid the shouting protesters.
Haha, I thought the same thing, even though in that episode Bender manages to best the fembots at the Olympics. But I can suspend disbelief with that episode because, well, they’re robots.
Well, back in the day a woman was expected to wear a girdle and heels while she was out and about. They probably did need to rest.
I think some of the people on TRP are teenagers who are totally oblivious to how the “real world” works.
It’s telling that the only upside they see to being a woman is committing fraud, Ring of Gyges style. They’re not fully committed to being women. They just want to superficially borrow the identity so they can get the feminists’ knickers in a twist and make everyone sorry for raising awareness/acceptance of genderfluid issues. Spy on the gals in the ladies’ room! Snag all the Olympic medals! Take double maternity leave!
The double maternity leave one is pretty idiotic. I’m pretty sure FMLA leave is limited to one per person. You can’t get 12 weeks as a man, then transition and get another 12
weeks as a woman, like this guy seems to think. The government considers you to be the same individual before and after. It’s not like Caitlin Jenner is going to get a double set of Social Security and Medicare benefits. How could she? She has no employment history prior to 2014.
Amused mastery means never having to say you’re sorry.
It’s another way to not take women seriously and feel important, even when the larger meaning of the interaction and the proper grownup response completely eludes you.
I just came home from Christmas shopping. During my mid-shopping coffee break I got to see the perfect failed negging attempt. It was absolutely glorious.
Tall Swedish guy with a Roosh-like beard sitting across from a Southeast Asian woman, right next to me. Literally inches away. I could tell they were romantically involved in some way, but they didn’t seem all that comfortable with each other. As soon as they say down, she said something about how sweet her tea was, and then they were awkwardly quiet and he started to stare off into the distance while she occasionally tried to get his attention poking him with her finger.
Eventually she decided to show him some pictures on her phone, I assume from at party she went to with her girlfriends. I obviously didn’t see the picture, but I gather from their conversation it must’ve been a photo of her and a group of friends. They guy looked at the picture with a little grin and said: “Wow, nice. Are those girls single?”
The woman suddenly looked very tired, and went (with not even a hint of a smile): “I don’t know all of them very well. I suppose some are single and some aren’t.” The guy, still smiling, said: “Okay. Good to know.” The woman looked straight at him, waited a few beats, and then said: “Do you want to be single again?”
The guy, smirk suddenly wiped the fuck off of his face, said: “I was kidding, ok?” The woman just shrugged and said: “Are you sure? Some of them are definitely single, you know.” The guy was panicking. “No no, I was kidding. I promise! It was a joke!” The woman said “okay”, and then they went back to awkward silence for the next 20 minutes until I left.
He won’t be pulling that shit with her again. :p
Hi! Longtime lurker and first time poster here. I’m neutrois, and I’m probably going to be more likely to speak up about transphobia/transmisogyny here than anything else. They/them pronouns please.
Two problems here. Female athletes are not worse than male athletes, and being assigned male at birth doesn’t automatically make you better than a professional female athlete. A man pretending to be a trans woman can’t sign up without meeting the standards of say, the WNBA.
Do lesbians (or any women in a same gender relationship) get double maternity leaves? I’m in favor of paternity leave, so that an this would be great for families!
No. There is still risk of discrimination against trans women no matter where you go. Even 30 years from now, this would be true. Actually, I don’t see trans women being part of the cis woman quota, they’ll be in a quota by themselves. Trans people, especially trans women and transfeminine people, need affirmative action.
If things are going the way they are afraid they are going, this wouldn’t happen.
AAHAHAHAHA FUCK NO. Trans women get their children taken away from them sometimes on account of them being transgender!
David Futrelle,
Red Pill Sci Fi is the worst Sci Fi ever!
Quote to the original story.
My mom sometimes has to put in two because her flow’s too strong for just one super tampon. : I
You know what I’d like to see them participate in? The Women’s Division MMA.
(Skip to about 3 minutes in for the good bit.)
You know, if I wanted some sort of justification for being trans, which I explicitly do not, I probably would still be leery of what the mainstream of a hate mob of racist, transmisogynist, and hella misogynist (99.5%) white dudes would cite as a reason.
Of course, it’s only a matter of time before some of the varied pro-patriarchy/pro-transmisogyny forces manages to grab quotes from this out of context to claim a)we’re all MRAs and b)this is why trans women transition.
It’s almost like pro-patriarchy cowards tell whatever lie they need to to get ahead.
I think some of the people on TRP are adults who are totally oblivious to how the “real world” works. 😉
I’ll take “truest things I’ve heard all day” for $200, Alex.
@dhag
Dread game FAIL! She pretty much flipped it on him. Proceeding to laugh my ass off, haha!
@sunnysombrera
Right! I should’ve said dread game. Terminology is hard. 🙂
Based on my experience of men’s bathrooms, any comfy chair or couch would be trashed and a huge health hazard in about 48 hours.
@dhag
Somehow I get the feeling this joker’s going to be single again soon whether he likes it or not. Even third hand I was getting a definite air of “getting pretty tired of putting up with your shit” from her.
[throws up hands]
[delurks]
Somebody help me, please. I’ve read every comment (I think) and yet still have no damn clue what “Social Earthquake” is suppose to mean. (All I can think of is that Tori Amos song, which I don’t even like.)
Please?
@ms_xeno
It’s kind of like “making waves” but explicitly done to piss off and make fun of trans people, specifically trans women. Because, you know, a person with a penis saying they’re a woman and using the women’s bathroom, ehehehe, I am sure rocking the boat and no one can tell me off because of it.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/ob1.gif