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Honey Badger Legal Strategy Hampered by Propensity of Time to Run Forwards

Time keeps on slippin, slippin, slippin
Time keeps on slippin, slippin, slippin

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The ongoing tragicomedy that is the Honey Badger Brigade’s Calgary Expo lawsuit continues to get even more tragicomical! Well, not so much the “tragic” bit, just that “comical” part.

The last time we checked in with the Brigade — that GamerGate-loving, feminist-hating gang of mostly lady YouTube blabbers — they had filed some sort of legal document charging the people in charge of the Calgary Expo with some kind of bad wrongness for tossing them out of the aforementioned Calgary Expo back in April.

They also charged The Mary Sue, a website in the United States that actually has no power over the staff of any expos in Calgary or indeed anywhere else in Canada, with somehow contributing to or causing the expulsion.

Well, The Mary Sue has responded to the Brigade’s legal filing, and the response is a doozy. Happily, the Honey Badgers have put it online for us all to enjoy.

The Mary Sue’s lawyer begins by pointing out that they are — ahem! — headquartered in New York, which is pretty clearly not located in Alberta, Canada, where the lawsuit was filed. (I am reliably informed that Canada is actually a whole other country from us.)

Then The Mary Sue’s lawyer gently reminded the court — and, more to the point, the Honey Badgers — that TIME MOVES FORWARD, not backwards, and that an article that appeared after the Honey Badgers were tossed from the Expo could not have caused them to be tossed from the Expo.

In regard to breach of contract, this claim is not just unfounded, but it is simply impossible based on the timeline of events. The Mary Sue could not have induced the Calgary Expo (“the Expo”) to evict Plaintiff because the aforementioned article was published after Plaintiff’s eviction.

Yep. Apparently the Honey Badger’s fancy disbarred lawyer got the dates mixed up. But hey, the law isn’t about these little details.

There’s more to The Mary Sue’s response, but that’s pretty much the best bit, in this Time-Space continuum at least.

Yesterday, Hannah Wallen of the Honey Badgers — she’s the one who isn’t Karen Straughan or Alison Tieman — posted their official response to the Mary Sue’s letter. It did not mention what we can only call the Honey Badger Time Paradox, but instead tried to distract readers with some new charges against the dastardly Mary Sue.

Mary Sue claims a lack of involvement in Calgary Expo’s choice to expel the Honey Badgers from the event. However, in response to questions on twitter following our expulsion, the expo’s staff referenced The Mary Sue’s article about the event.

Ok, but the Mary Sue article was published after the expulsion, so it could not have caused the expulsion.

The Mary Sue’s prior and existing relationship with Calgary Expo is further demonstrated by an April 15th article promoting the Mary Sue sponsored cosplay contest which was to take place at the event.

Ok, but the Mary Sue article was published after the expulsion, so it could not have caused the expulsion.

Mary Sue weekend editor Sam Maggs was the first person to respond to Britany le Blanc’s first tweet objecting to “MRAs in the audience” at the women into comics panel.

Ok, but the Mary Sue article was published after the expulsion, so it could not have caused the expulsion.

Sorry, Ms. Wallen, but your little sleight of hand is no more effective than this dude’s not-quite-flawless disappearing act.

Just a reminder: the Honey Badgers raised more than $30,000 to cover the legal costs of their patently ludicrous lawsuit.

In my last post I noted that

MRAs and other antifeminists … have wasted literally hundreds of thousands of dollars on causes and projects and people that have pissed away their money without accomplishing anything of value … .

This would be one of those causes.

If you’ve got money burning a hole in your wallet, here’s a much better option:

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Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
8 years ago

I bet they’re bringing it up again so they can satisfy the donators that have pissed their money away AND likely start another drive for “legal fees”.

Especially the “legal fees” part.

Johanna Roberts
8 years ago

Gee, ever think you’re in the wrong line of work that these idiots can get 30,000 dollars and I can’t even afford to buy my child a Santa present? Yeah….

I’m surprised the Mary Sue didn’t just send a picture of a middle finger to the Honey Badgers, but legal slapdowns are JUST as fun to read. 😀

mockingbird
mockingbird
8 years ago

I get the impression that they’re just not that bright.

I mean, it almost feels like punching down, but it’s really more like simply blocking the blows of a drastically physically weaker opponent rather than striking back.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: 99% of right-wing claims can only be explained with time machines and/or wizards.

And the other 1% can’t be explained at all.

Jamie Jeans
8 years ago

Having been at the expo, heck, having been at the very panel they tried to disrupt and then tried to talk to the panelists afterwards, their continued failure continues to amuse me to no end.

magnesium
magnesium
8 years ago

Maybe they’ll ask for more donations so they can purchase/build an effective time machine. I mean this is definitely a lead up to asking for more donations. They’ll need to hire a disbarred American lawyer so they can file a lawsuit in New York.

History Nerd
8 years ago

So these people believe that anyone who criticizes them must be colluding in some feminist illuminati conspiracy to destroy MRA’s?

dhag85
8 years ago

Need $30,000 for legal fees.
Also need $17,000,000,000 for time machine.
Explain later.
/HBB

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

It’s there any chance that they saw the Mary Sue logo (a woman) and the Expo logo (also a woman – in a cowboy hat, natch), got them confused, and the rest has all been an attempt to save face?

Owen McLovely
Owen McLovely
8 years ago

Somebody explain to me who the Honey Badgers are. I’m confused. What do they actually do? Are they religious? Why are a bunch of women trying to defend an anti-woman organization?

Now, I know we don’t bring up appearances on this site but just this once I must make an exception. Let’s just say they’re not exactly the Swedish Bikini Team (there – said it). So why are they supporting an organization that expects all women to be perfect 10s, barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, all while being traditional housewives who bring lots of white children to the world and go to church?

I read one article on ROK which said male feminists were like black men in the KKK. I think that description describes the Honey Badgers better.

Somebody enlighten me please. I don’t think I could read any of their material without my head exploding.

(And I promise not to bring up appearance again)

erica, ascendant
8 years ago

So I guess that disbarred lawyer just isn’t working out all that well for them, eh?

In the meantime, said disbarred lawyer is laughing all the way to the bank with the money he’s making off the donations of MRAs desperate for “”””justice”””” and “”””ethics in gaming journalism”””” while at the same time committing legal malpractice. Or he would, if he were a member of the Bar.

As it stands, I can’t tell if he’s engaging in unauthorized practice of the law or just a genius at diverting currency from hate groups. Either way, where is my popcorn?

magnesium
magnesium
8 years ago

off topic, I’d just like to save this here for the next time MRA’s try to claim that there are no shelters helping the menz.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/kentucky-shelter-tosses-out-all-women-days-before-holidays-because-they-tempt-men-with-ungodly-sex/comments/

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

http://i.imgur.com/AjMeSyH.jpg

GWW and her lawyer gathering evidence (artist’s conception).

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
8 years ago

One more thing to add to the ever growing list of things that oppress men. Time. Time is misandry. These Honey Badgers are just nobly trying to be allies to men in the struggle against time, which I should also note, cruelly turns young hb10s into old hags who’ve hit the wall.

Owen,
Basically the Honey Badgers are trying to be the cool girls. The special snowflakes who are willing to put up with misogyny. They think it will insulate them from being the target of misogynists themselves. But it doesn’t work. Inevitably they step out of line and the MRAs will turn on them.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

We’d have to summon Alan to be sure, but I think you have to actually be a lawyer, or at least represent yourself as one, to be committing any sort of legal malpractice or unauthorized practice of law.

On topic… eh, I’ll gat back to it later. I have cats to pet.

dhag85
8 years ago

@Owen McLovely

I don’t think you should’ve brought it (looks) up even once. But the Honey Badger Brigade is a group of women and men associated with AVfM. Even though they are, according to their website, pretty much 50% men and 50% women, they’ve come to be known as a feMRA group. What do they do? Same as AVfM: post very long youtube videos and bother people on Twitter.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

True story: Back when the Tea Party was the world’s latest laughingstock next big thing, I was arguing with one and asked him to give me a full list of the “Crimes” he thought Obama was “Guilty” of.

Right at the top? “Influenced Hitler’s rise to power.”

I’m not kidding. Neither was he.

Dark Statistic
Dark Statistic
8 years ago

I read the comments on the HBB article because I’m a masochist. But it really seems like some people there really think The Mary Sue is gonna lose this (and then fold).

Kind of the definition of wishful thinking.

Also, I miss the old sign in/commenting system. Just sayin’.

Miss Andry
8 years ago

Why build men’s shelters when you can waste money on bogus lawsuits?

Fabe
Fabe
8 years ago

@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs

maybe they meant to say “Influenced by Hitler’s rise to power.” It’s not any much better but at least it obeys the laws of physics.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
8 years ago

True story: Back when the Tea Party was the world’s latest laughingstock next big thing, I was arguing with one and asked him to give me a full list of the “Crimes” he thought Obama was “Guilty” of.

Right at the top? “Influenced Hitler’s rise to power.”

I’m not kidding. Neither was he.

Science: *exists*

Tea Party: what is this shit stop this

nparker
nparker
8 years ago

@ Scented Fucking Hard Chairs

Right at the top? “Influenced Hitler’s rise to power.”

I’m not kidding. Neither was he.

Oh. My. God.

Obama’s a time traveller?

@ Miss Andry

Why build men’s shelters when you can waste money on bogus lawsuits?

What?! Wanting people not to be hypocritical is misandric!! Consistency of rhetoric is a feminsits conspiraty!

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
8 years ago

@Johanna Roberts:

I’m surprised the Mary Sue didn’t just send a picture of a middle finger to the Honey Badgers, but legal slapdowns are JUST as fun to read.

It is my understanding that the most common legal version of that, thanks to British satire magazine Private Eye, is usually given as “We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram.

Moocow
8 years ago

I am veeeeeery curious, what do the HBB backers have to say about all this. Are they on board or are they getting a lil’ buyers remorse?

Ok, so I went and satisfied my curiosity by reading the comments. Seems like the general consensus is “MUHAHAHA, OH WE SURE HAVE THEM ON THE ROPES THIS TIME”. So apparently not only are they on board, they actually think HBB have a chance of winning. Oh this is too great, I really hope this ends up in court.

I’ve collected a few of the most hilarious responses:

It’s good to see you’re not wasting all the money people donated for your legal fund!

Anyone wanna figure out if that one is sarcastic? I honestly can’t even tell.

I wonder how large the Mary Sue’s legal budget is, I guessing like most online publications they are most likely already operating on a knife’s edge financially, every time they have to make a new legal filing it must cut right into the years xmas bonuses. mawhahahahahaha…

Oh no! Anything but the Christmas bonuses!

I can’t wait for the day when a lawyer tries to prove a hashtag abuses women in real life. Supporters of Gamergate would be delighted to have their day in court to expose the wild exaggerations and lies of the media.

Why yes, gamergate, i recommend you bring your army of flying monkeys to the courtroom and enjoy the show.

You know what? The Mary Sue going to have to prove that shit in a court of law. Their lies about you and gamergate aren’t going to hold up and it’ll be on public record.

NO U!

Not sure if it’s relevant, but are they trying to use the time zone difference to buy themselves a few hours in order to claim they couldn’t have had influence?

Temporal paradoxes can apparently be explained away because Timezones!

TRIGGER WARNING on the next few for… bizarre discussion of rape jokes… I think?

“HBB also included paraphernalia in their booth that alluded to rape jokes”

I look forward to seeing a lawyer trying to explain Piccolo Dick to a judge.

Wat…

Best part? Piccolo Dick is in no way a rape meme/joke. I am not a DB fan / watcher, but the TL;DR is that the guy who’s currently being penetrated is more powerful than the other. Additionally, the binding rings that were present on the submissive can only be controlled by the submissive.

dafuq…

Yep, I know.

Now I’m also looking forward to seeing HBB’s lawyer presenting the counter argument to Piccolo Dick.

“Your honor, even though this animation depicts the character Vegeta being anally penetrated by the character Piccolo while restrained with energy rings, in Dragon Ball Z canon only Vegeta is capable of controlling such energy rings, furthermore, at the point in the series where Vegeta is able to use these energy rings, he far surpasses Piccolo in power level, to the point it would be impossible for Piccolo to restrain Vegeta in any way, in fact, the difference is so big Vegeta would be able to crush Piccolo’s penis with his superhuman buttocks. Clearly, this image depicts a consensual act of BDSM. I rest my case.”

…is this shit?

dhag85
8 years ago

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