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Aravindan Balakrishnan was a Maoist cult leader who used psychological torture and sexual violence to keep a small group of women under his control for decades in a hellish “commune” in South London.
Earlier this month, he was convicted of multiple counts of rape and assorted other crimes — only a tiny fraction of the violence and abuse he presumably inflicted upon his female followers/captives since the late 1970s.
Over in the Red Pill subreddit, the regulars are looking at his sordid history of abuse for tips on how to become more like this “dark triad” master who had “a harem of 10 women … worshipping him as a god.”
It’s a central tenet of Red Pill thought that women swoon and “tingle’ when faced with men displaying so-called “dark triad” traits — that is, narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy. Red Pillers who aren’t already “dark triad” men to begin with often try to emulate these not-so-nice guys.
Now they’re looking, at least semi-seriously, to the abusive monster known as Comrade Bala for dating tips.
As the Red Piller Redditor no_face sees it, Comrade Bala’s story makes clear that “dark triad” traits matter a lot more than looks — and even lifting — when it comes to the ladies.
Take a look at him. He is a short, bald, bespectacled 75 year old Indian guy. I’m not a physical fitness expert, but I’m wagering money that this dude does not lift. After you read this, you have lost the right to complain about your looks. He doesn’t even have a lot of money either.
How did he manage this? Oh, did he tap into that Indian mystical mumbo-jumbo? No! This guy gets laid by preaching … gasp …. communism! At redpill, we know that the validity of the actual stuff he preached does not matter in the slightest. Its all about his intense dark triad characteristics.
And these he apparently had in spades. No_face, evidently an aspiring Dark Traid-er himself, quotes extensively, and sort-of, kind-of approvingly, from a Daily Telegraph article detailing Bala’s abuses. [You may wish to stop reading at this point; it only gets worse from here.]
Even the detailed and explicit description of Bala’s sexual abuse of his “followers” doesn’t seem to phase him. No_Face suggests that the rapes Bala has now been convicted of were probably just instances of “rough sex.”
And after quoting a passage in the Telegraph article noting that the victims of Bala’s sexual assaults “were ordered to swallow when he ejaculated as it was the ‘the elixir of life,'”no_face suggested that they probably wanted it.
I’m guessing the saying “woman gladly swallows for an alpha” has some bearing here. Think about this while you guys are emptying elixir into old socks.
So edgy, these Red Pillers.
No_face sums up the “Lessons Learned’ from Bala’s disgusting story:
Raw [Dark Triad] charisma can overcome almost any physical limitation.
Eventually your plates will crash, some even after 47 years.
You can literally be a god to women.
Your women can and will turn against you, even if you were their fucking god for most of their lifetime.
Apparently it’s news to Red Pillers that even the most demoralized and beaten-down abuse victims may come to see their abusers as something less than a godlike figures.
Some of the Red Pill regulars responded to the story with jokes.
“Hey fellas, I’m just saying – a little alcohol and dancing close to rhythmic music also works,” wrote one.
Of course, most of the jokes still managed to suggest a certain admiration for Comrade Bala’s “achievements.”
“Is it safe to say that Balla was a balla?” asked one. “Filthy dirty old man, I like him ☺” wrote another.
But others saw Bala’s story as just more evidence that men need to become ever more ruthless towards women. Eugenics2015 declared:
This is what i’ve been saying forever, men have the power to control womens minds if you do it right.
As troghin2 saw it,
That dude either is insane or a genius at human interaction.
For a few, the story was proof that Asian men, allegedly despised by all the hot babes of the world, can only succeed with women by becoming abusive assholes. As imsfncy2 wrote,
This article teaches that an indian guy must be dark triad to make up for his ethnic disadvantage unlike other white guys that can just rely on social status and beta game.
The game IS rigged for everyone, especially for asian guys, so only the dark triad guy of any race thrives.
At this point, the Red Pill subreddit is basically a school for abusers, with occasional jokes.
No, that ‘elixir’ won’t transform old socks into young new socks, but if they contribute enough if theirs into each sock in a pair and put them on right away then let things dry (having some leg hair is beneficial, ‘natch) those socks will stay up almost as well as if they’d been glued, if just a little crusty. Quantity is key, otherwise they’ll just be wearing another pair of disgustingly filthy and kind of flaky-crusty socks like they probably do at the end of the week before someone else does their wash for them.
Ha, ha, ha, Red Pillers. Aravindan Balakrishnan is such a funny guy/god!
I’m looking forward to his sentencing on January 29. Let’s talk then!
In case anyone needs it.
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I am torn to know whether freedom of speech should protect thoses guys. THey are at best close to endanger the freedom of other peoples.
Is that Bala guy clinically insane ? I guess not, but I am not a psychiatrist. In any case, he is not a genius at social interaction.
Saved that image.
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Come on, you know better than that.
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So for context on why I asked :
“That dude either is insane or a genius at human interaction.”
(still don’t know how to quote here)
In regard to that, I am sure I can say he is not a genius at human interaction.
Whether he is insane is a genuine question ; I can use armchair therapy and a statistical approach to say he is likely not insane, but that’s an educated guess at best. It’s like asking if the victim of a KKK rally is a black : the odds are in your favor that he is, but exceptions happen.
He is an asshole, but being an asshole and being insane are two completely unrelated point. I guess I could have tried to explain in longer terms that being insane or not have nothing to do with all the abuse he did.
Apparently, Aravindan Balakrishnan is being sentenced on January 29th.
Nothing will be an awful enough punishment for this inhuman monster.
Life imprisonment? Not awful enough.
Death penalty? Not awful enough.
An ironic death at the hands of the prisoners? Surprisingly, not awful enough.
Ohlmann, I don’t think you said what you think you said. I’m willing to chalk it up to a typo. You were responding to the quote in dave’s post from troghin2, correct?
Basically with a “This dude wasn’t a genius, but probs wasn’t insane either (because insanity does not equal asshole and asshole does not equal insane)”
Just be careful, Ohlmann. Also, avoiding even using armchair psych ever would probably be good.
As far as quoting goes,
1. You copy-paste the quote.
2.
3. The blockquote tabs will appear around the thing you just highlighted.
Bolding and Italicing work the same way.
Or you can go old school and write your things out the long way: Let’s see if I remember html…
If I type something like this:
<blockquote> THE THING QUOTING HERE</blockquote>
The should appear as
after you hit post.
These guys have complete moral blinders on when it comes to sex. They’d throw their own relatives under the bus for it. They’d sacrifice their living souls for it. They would gleefully blow up the entire universe, chocolate and puppies and all, just so that they could have sex even one time.
If sex makes these people so incredibly amoral that they’re willing to adopt dark triad traits and sanction abuse and murder in order to get it, it’s perhaps for the good of humanity that they remain incel until they calm down and develop a healthier attitude towards sex.
Yeah, this is an important point that eludes the redpillers. Most psychopaths are extremely skillful at reading people and navigating social situations. They’re masters of telling people what they want to hear. Redpillers, on the other hand, are so crude and terrible at understanding other people’s minds that it’s extremely unlikely they could successfully charm their way into being sex cult leaders. You can’t just put on dark triad traits like a hat and expect to magnetically lure people into your circle.
An asshole without charisma is just an asshole.
OH. Whoops. In that case, my apologies, Ohlmann. I misunderstood. ^^;;
Red pill: “But remember everyone, Wom-I mean feeeeeeeeemales are the ones who are incapable of love and did I mention we are all about self-improvement?”
Are they serious? Asian men are so incredibly handsome. Go look them up on google.
Initial reaction: So the inside of Satan’s asshole has wifi.
I have a prediction, all of you could confront MRAs, Mgtows and whatever else Assholes call themselves and they’ll not just maintain the red pill fiction but try to make excuses for the pro rapists in that reddit.
What? Noone wants to bet against me?
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Great idea and very well put!
Alternative idea: They’re all incel. Why not date each other? Yes!
I know the conversation has moved on but I just want to say that I’m so glad I found my Dance Academy people. All of your feels are also my feels. Okay I’ll stop with the OT now.
I don’t think it’s really about sex… or more specifically it’s not about sexual intercourse. Some manosphere types are (or were) married. Some are able to fake not being a shit-heel long enough to have one night stands. Some actually manipulate and coerce women into having sex with them.
They don’t just want sex, they want to have their way with women utterly and completely. They want it on a societal level and not just a physical one. They want to be able to express and fulfill depraved desires without anyone calling them out on it, and without anyone pointing out that what they want is by any reasonable definition rape.
Look at how they practically idolize the cult leader in question, describing his victims as ‘worshiping’ him. Don’t kid yourself into thinking that the people in that thread are just assholes who need to get laid and then they’ll mellow out.
@Anon
You’re just trying to take our money.
@Kat
Fine, fine, I’ll play along.
I bet that the manosphere will develop self awareness and weed out the aspiring rapists and abusers in their midst.
Excuse me, I just got a call from my financial advisers.
Well I’ll have to call off the bet. Jeff found a way of making more money than making that bet.
He advised me to fill a barrel with gasoline, light it then dump my money into the barrel.
The threat that men like these putrid Rooshlings won’t marry us if we think too highly of ourselves is made funnier with every post David makes.
Oh no. Whatever will we do? We’ll be stuck doing fun shit with awesome people and feeling pretty damn good about it. We’ll have to miss out on catering to abusive shtheads for a lifetime. Woe is me.
I’m wagering money that this dude does not lift
Hard to say for sure, but probably not. It is impressive, though, how TRPers immediately zero in on the essential. /s
This is from the piece linked by David:
[Bala] warned [his victims] a supernatural force called Jackie would cause natural disasters if he was ever disobeyed.
Somewhat surprising that the perp would invoke a female “supernatural force” to threaten his victims.
(Could Jackie be related to Katie…?)
Chaltab:
They don’t just want sex, they want to have their way with women utterly and completely. They want it on a societal level and not just a physical one. They want to be able to express and fulfill depraved desires without anyone calling them out on it, and without anyone pointing out that what they want is by any reasonable definition rape.
Yes, this.
Their motivation is power and absolute control over women, predominantly sexual, but not only, complete with degradation and dehumanization of women to fulfill their perverted needs. TRP is the male id, exposed in its full, um, glory.
@Chaltab
No, I’m not naive enough to think getting laid would mellow them out – if anything, they’d probably double down on the demands and the violent rhetoric. For these guys, sex and controlling women are synonymous.
My point was they need to mellow out and get a moral compass before they even consider going near women. If Roosh can make ridiculous and impossible demands, so can we.
@Anon
You and “Jeff” are certainly cynical.
And by cynical, I mean realistic.
Two more nuggets from the BBC article:
Giving evidence, Balakrishnan denied sex assault allegations and insisted two victims in the commune had “pushed” him to have sex and competed for his attentions, even with the mother of his daughter.
He is the victim, wouldn’t you know.
In 2005, then in her 20s, [his enslaved daughter] made an escape and went to a police station, but the court heard she was encouraged to return home.
Now that’s particularly hard to stomach.