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Aravindan Balakrishnan was a Maoist cult leader who used psychological torture and sexual violence to keep a small group of women under his control for decades in a hellish “commune” in South London.
Earlier this month, he was convicted of multiple counts of rape and assorted other crimes — only a tiny fraction of the violence and abuse he presumably inflicted upon his female followers/captives since the late 1970s.
Over in the Red Pill subreddit, the regulars are looking at his sordid history of abuse for tips on how to become more like this “dark triad” master who had “a harem of 10 women … worshipping him as a god.”
It’s a central tenet of Red Pill thought that women swoon and “tingle’ when faced with men displaying so-called “dark triad” traits — that is, narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy. Red Pillers who aren’t already “dark triad” men to begin with often try to emulate these not-so-nice guys.
Now they’re looking, at least semi-seriously, to the abusive monster known as Comrade Bala for dating tips.
As the Red Piller Redditor no_face sees it, Comrade Bala’s story makes clear that “dark triad” traits matter a lot more than looks — and even lifting — when it comes to the ladies.
Take a look at him. He is a short, bald, bespectacled 75 year old Indian guy. I’m not a physical fitness expert, but I’m wagering money that this dude does not lift. After you read this, you have lost the right to complain about your looks. He doesn’t even have a lot of money either.
How did he manage this? Oh, did he tap into that Indian mystical mumbo-jumbo? No! This guy gets laid by preaching … gasp …. communism! At redpill, we know that the validity of the actual stuff he preached does not matter in the slightest. Its all about his intense dark triad characteristics.
And these he apparently had in spades. No_face, evidently an aspiring Dark Traid-er himself, quotes extensively, and sort-of, kind-of approvingly, from a Daily Telegraph article detailing Bala’s abuses. [You may wish to stop reading at this point; it only gets worse from here.]
Even the detailed and explicit description of Bala’s sexual abuse of his “followers” doesn’t seem to phase him. No_Face suggests that the rapes Bala has now been convicted of were probably just instances of “rough sex.”
And after quoting a passage in the Telegraph article noting that the victims of Bala’s sexual assaults “were ordered to swallow when he ejaculated as it was the ‘the elixir of life,'”no_face suggested that they probably wanted it.
I’m guessing the saying “woman gladly swallows for an alpha” has some bearing here. Think about this while you guys are emptying elixir into old socks.
So edgy, these Red Pillers.
No_face sums up the “Lessons Learned’ from Bala’s disgusting story:
Raw [Dark Triad] charisma can overcome almost any physical limitation.
Eventually your plates will crash, some even after 47 years.
You can literally be a god to women.
Your women can and will turn against you, even if you were their fucking god for most of their lifetime.
Apparently it’s news to Red Pillers that even the most demoralized and beaten-down abuse victims may come to see their abusers as something less than a godlike figures.
Some of the Red Pill regulars responded to the story with jokes.
“Hey fellas, I’m just saying – a little alcohol and dancing close to rhythmic music also works,” wrote one.
Of course, most of the jokes still managed to suggest a certain admiration for Comrade Bala’s “achievements.”
“Is it safe to say that Balla was a balla?” asked one. “Filthy dirty old man, I like him ☺” wrote another.
But others saw Bala’s story as just more evidence that men need to become ever more ruthless towards women. Eugenics2015 declared:
This is what i’ve been saying forever, men have the power to control womens minds if you do it right.
As troghin2 saw it,
That dude either is insane or a genius at human interaction.
For a few, the story was proof that Asian men, allegedly despised by all the hot babes of the world, can only succeed with women by becoming abusive assholes. As imsfncy2 wrote,
This article teaches that an indian guy must be dark triad to make up for his ethnic disadvantage unlike other white guys that can just rely on social status and beta game.
The game IS rigged for everyone, especially for asian guys, so only the dark triad guy of any race thrives.
At this point, the Red Pill subreddit is basically a school for abusers, with occasional jokes.
Wait. Which one was the reddit troll comment and which was the YouTube troll comment?
I see the shortest one as the most common kind of Youtube troll, but actually they both fit the bill, don’t they?
It’s more insidious than that. It’s not an advice board for abusers, it’s a board where abusers can go for advice. There are posts that don’t seem outright hateful at first, if often laughably mis-guided. Usually the abusers will turn up in the comments, but not always. Occaisonally you have entire threads that seem innocuous. There’s thread on the front page about MBTI personality testing. The original poster is for it. Some agree that it’s useful, some question the science behind it, some compare it to cold reading, etc. Nobody in the thread mentions women or gender at all, except insofar as they assert that certain “red pill” habits are easier to practice for some personalities than others.
David tends to “cherry-pick” the very worst stuff from his sources, and people who only know the various subreddits and 4Chan boards from reading WHTM often assume that the whole site is like the stuff he posts. It’s not.
Let me be clear about this: I’m not actually criticizing David here; I’m not saying that he’s trying to deceive, or even that he’s sloppy or sensationalistic. I think he has a very good reason for doing what he does. It’s *important* to dredge up the worst of the worst and make sure that we get a chance to look at it closely. It’s easy for the worst stuff to drop out of sight when looking at a group as a whole, or to excuse a group by saying that *most* of what they post isn’t outright criminal instead of condemning them for allowing that content at all. Highlighting the most terrible parts of these terrible sites is work worth doing.
Still, if you’re worried about these sites it’s worth familiarizing yourself with the more “moderate” content that’s less likely to show up in a WHTM piece. In my opinion it’s important to be aware of the “moderates” because they make these sites more, not less, dangerous.
TRP isn’t 10 abusers sitting around swapping rape tips. It’s 1 person saying something smart, 1 person saying something stupid but not explicitly bigoted, 5 people on misogynist tirades, and 3 abusers swapping rape tips in the corner (or yelling them at the crowd) while everyone else conspicuously ignores them.
Which is, honestly, even creepier.
At least Walter’s trolling is so over the top that it produces some genuine WTF moments.
And then he discusses comics and anime.
Julotte, et al – Bring a shtick to the table or something.
Did anyone bother to see how many comments, and how much “support” this thread actually had on reddit?
Anyone?
Reading about stuff like this make me think that C. S. Lewis was onto more than he realized when he wrote The Screwtape Letters and the sequel story Screwtape Proposes a Toast. The demons in those stories try to bring humans to Hell so they can eventually eat their souls (and any demon who fails to bring their assigned human target to Hell gets eaten in their place – Lewis based this version of Hell off an extremely toxic workplace).
The stronger the negative emotions are in a human, the more of a delicacy it is for the demons. So the demons work to encourage said emotions while the human is alive so they get the best possible treat when the human dies.
There are times when I think a lot of the poison going around the manosphere is the result of these demons prepping the living for eventual inclusion in an afterlife casserole of some kind. Makes reading about it all a bit more endurable, anyway. Sometimes.
And sometimes, not so much.
“This article teaches that an indian guy must be dark triad to make up for his ethnic disadvantage unlike other white guys that can just rely on social status and beta game.”
Bull. All he has to be is hot. My super good looking cousins are never without girlfriends and they are really “nice guys”.
I’ve also got some assholes in my family and try as they might, they don’t score.