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It’s a fairly common belief, at least in the fetid swamp of humanity known as the manosphere, that mass shooters become mass shooters mainly because they can’t score with the ladies.
Had so-called “permavirgin” killers like Elliot Rodger or Adam Lanza managed to master pickup artistry, or simply been provided with a girlfriend from the US Government Department of Girlfriends, this theory goes, we would have been spared countless deaths.
Despite the weird obsession that so many in the manosphere have with this facile and ridiculous argument, you might think that even the most creative manosphere ideologues would have trouble applying this particular theory to the recent tragedy in San Bernardino, given that it was carried out by a married couple, Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik.
But never doubt the tenacity of a manospherian with an idée fixe stuck in his head like a bad song. In a post last week with the self-explanatory title Mass Shooters Are Men With Limited Sexual Market Options, the proudly racist pickup artist who calls himself Heartiste wondered if the San Bernardino shootings were the result of Farook’s resentment over his alleged inability to score with the (white) babes:
Not all men who have few options with women will go out in a blaze of jihad, but most blazing jihadis are men who have few options with (White) women.
Several days later, after the media finally got hold of several photos of Malik, Heartiste returned to the subject, proudly announcing that his thesis had been proved correct — because Malik was so terribly, terribly ugly that anyone married to her would be happier dead.
A photo of the San Bernardino female Muslim terrorist was finally released to the public, and, judging by her resemblance to Mohammed Atta of 9/11 infamy, it appears her husband, the primary shooter Syed “we’re Farooked” Farook, had a motive for prematurely releasing himself from this mortal coil: going home every evening to gaze upon his wife’s asiatic pulchritude.
Heartiste was so pleased to have an opportunity to slag on Farook and his allegedly ugly wife that he momentarily set aside his longstanding hatred of American women.
The [Chateau Heartiste] hypothesis that Farook’s limited sexual market options contributed to his Islamist terror attack is gaining some traction. Farook had to get a mail order bride… who looked like this. And that’s while living in a country side by side with cute White women. That’s gotta sting.
These days, apparently, Heartiste’s white supremacism trumps his misogyny.
In the comments, Heartiste’s fans — or at least the minority of them who weren’t too busy spewing racist hate so virulent it might cause a Klansman to blush — tended to agree with Mr, H’s assessment.
Random Guy suggested that most Muslim men in the west resent their
lack of sex and availability of the highest value women. They want white women but can’t get them without money and what women they can get are basically mail order brides.
Youalreadyknow added that
the reports are that he wanted a devout Islamic wife and he got a beast of a bitch. Dude was a little bitch who lashed out because he was easily bullied and he was also sexually frustrated. All male terrorists are sexually frustrated.
Lost in Moderation, meanwhile, after claiming that he had “lived for years as a Muslim among Muslims,” declared that Mr.H’s insinuation that Farook was a sexually frustrated beta obsessed with white women
may be the truest thing you’ve ever written. They are utterly consumed by it, even though they never say it. The little greaseballs know white women won’t give them the time of day, period. …
I used to score a lot of points with the Muslimahs (who are easier than you may think) just by making fun of the boys’ obsession with little white girls in bikinis, they would be so shocked that I’d even dare say out loud what they all knew, and so tingly, too.
It always comes back to these imagined “tingles” for these guys, doesn’t it?
Anyone else see that AP photo of a NYC woman hauling her laundry past a couple of celebrating Santas?
It’s SantaCon!
And my boyfriend and I just lugged our laundry past a bunch of Santas on their annual pub crawl.
There used to be two Laundrymats near us. One was replaced by a spa. The other was replaced by a brewpub. Now we schlep our laundry several blocks away.
These revelers think it’s fun to dress up as Santa. We know that the Real Fun is doing laundry.
An arrest was made in the apparent fire bombing of a CA mosque:
http://m.newser.com/story/217438/calif-man-charged-with-hate-crime-in-mosque-fire.html
The suspect’s father’s 2¢:
[He] characterized [his son] as something of a loner “caught up in social media … (which) has produced people like my son, without person-to-person contact.” The elder Dial appeared unsympathetic, saying that while mental health issues may have played a role, “We have no plans to bail him out. He’s an adult… we said to him, I hope you like reading books, because you’re in it for the long haul. He’s a man.”
So, one of the grosser parts of reddit or one of the chans?
Some people who commit murder have mental illness. This is a fact. The problem is that in the vast majority of cases there is no evidence that the mental illness caused the murder. They are separate situations. Considering that the rate of violent crimes committed by those with mental illness is pretty on par, if not slightly lower, than their prevalence in the population it’s pretty safe to say that mental illness is rarely the cause of violence.
I got the impression that that’s where the dad’s quote was going.
“He may or may not have a mental health issue, but that’s not why he did this. He did this because his primary human interaction was on an echo-chamber message board and because he chose to be a violent asshole.”
I may have come in with a biased reading, though ?
To me, it seemed more that his dad was pointing to the potential of places like the chans to develop and reinforce extremist views without attempting to absolve his son of individual agency.
@SFHC – you might wish to check the revised comments policy.
Your discourse has descended into personal attack. This is not the first time you have done this. To me or to others.
This is an unacceptable way of engaging with people. It is abusive and bullying.
*dies laughing*
…oh wait, you’re serious? You consider that abusive bullying? Cuz here’s the relevant chunk of comment policy:
Please note the words “gratuitously nasty”.
@Kindageeky
That really is a bad idea, though, because it teaches these people that if they act like they’re about to explode, they’ll get given a pity fuck. Besides, you should be spending your time with good people who appreciate you for who you are.
Also, I imagine that those people would see
as detriments, not mitigating factors.