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Worried about your penis size? Blame feminism, MGTOW explains

Not everyone has a giant wiener
Not everyone has a giant wiener

The Great Penis Size Freakout Debate continues. On the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, one of the regulars has dug up a Youtube video from a random woman who doesn’t like small dicks.

Never mind that men worry a lot more about the size of their dicks than women do — hell, one survey found that women tend to be far more concerned with proper pubic-hair grooming  than the length of their partner’s dingle dangles. Reddit’s MGTOW army saw this video as an example of rare female honesty on this perilous topic.

“[T]his is just proof if you’re not above average you are nothing,” one Reddit MGTOW moaned.

[I]f she complains and you aren’t small, next the bitch, she’s either got something wrong with her pussy or she got her head filled with some of her girl group bullshit, and it’s not worth the trouble.

Naturally, it didn’t take long for someone to blame feminism for the size queens of the world. ShitfacedBatman reassured his fellow MGTOWs that only sluts and feminists complain about small penises.

Date short and cute feminine women and you’ll never need to worry about your penis size. Date a woman prone to getting FAT, a woman close to your height, a woman with a big-ass ass, or a sex-industry woman who’s been cored out a few times and it’s “possible” size is a factor in those cases.

You know, women being “cored out” by large penises isn’t actually a thing. The sturdy vagina can recover from childbirth, and there aren’t really a lot of men out there whose penises are literally larger than a baby.

But, as ShitfacedBatman sees it, size queens are only lashing out because they are losers in the “tight vagina” contest that apparently all women are competing in.

Here’s the dealio tho: women that say size matters are saying they have sexual liabilities. To be submissive, pretty, and feminine is actually a competitive sport racing towards female smallness. Women by nature should be competing to be small, tight, and “innocent” – which means size should never matter and if it does it’s her problem. (Western feminism producing masculine women is incredibly likely to be at the root of the problem.)

Apparently the most “masculine women” are the ones with huge vaginas.

I think the whole “huge vagina” argument made a lot more sense when Larry David explained it on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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Walter
Walter
8 years ago

Contrapangloss

I’ll be honest, I am a misandrist.

There is no citation for my idea of a “cockocracy” as I’ve come to call it, but the system would most definitely lead to a more peaceful world and better relations between the sexes as smaller men, the source of all bad ideas, will be kept in check by larger men, and larger men will be kept busy with mindless busy work. It’s a perfect system.

I appreciate your ideas and thank you for sharing your opinion. I don’t at all agree with you and think that you might be a little bit naive when it comes to male nature, but I appreciate your insight.

One last thing, I’m very happy. I’m not miserable at all. Once I realized the truth about size and my nature as a man, it made my life and outlook on life much better. I only want to bring other men to my way of thinking so that they too can experience the joy of knowing that there is something valuable about them and that there is a basic order to human life. It’s really a wonderful feeling.

Contrapangloss
Contrapangloss
8 years ago

So, you’d rather be led by an idiot with a big penis than by a relatively clever man with a small or normally sized one?

How the heck is that a wise way of running a world, which will lead to peace and prosperity?

Your premise is significantly flawed.

Walter
Walter
8 years ago

Contrapangloss

Men won’t run the world in this scenario. Just other men.

Broken Butterfly
Broken Butterfly
8 years ago

Holy crap, I didn’t think people like Walter really existed. I just… this is… that just…

Buh?!

Contrapangloss
Contrapangloss
8 years ago

Half society is a large chunk.

Half of the potential engineers, statisticians, doctors, nurses, plumbers, kindergarten teachers, artists, dancers, everything, all caught up in a ridiculous measuring contest.

For reals.

Your hypothetical society freaking stinks.

Bedtime for me, though.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
8 years ago

@Contrapangloss

No, you see, his fantasy is men keeping other men in line with their cocks. It would probably make a very good porno series.

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
8 years ago

OMG, Walter, you’re still going on about the penis size thing? Look, you want to be Troll of the Year on WHTM. I get it, dude, I really do. It’s a prestigious position that many aspire to but never get even close to. You, you actually have a fighting chance, Walter ol’ buddy, can I call you ol’ buddy? Even I thought your shtick was really funny for a while. I still chuckle at the “penis is truth” line, which will probably go down in my personal history as one of the genuinely funniest responses a troll has ever given one of my posts on here.

But now it’s just getting boring. Less is more. I choose to believe that you don’t actually believe your own nonsense, because if you do, holy shitballs, that’s messed up. One more time: Stop worrying about your penis. Your penis is probably fine. It’s what kind of a person the penis is attached to that matters.

Anyway, I really just wanted to drop by and ask you to please keep gender essentialism and transphobic language to a minimum. Nobody here likes those. But I guess it’s difficult to feed into the whole “women are x and men are y, and also men are defined by penises” thing unless you’re a fan of both gender essentialism and transphobia, so a moot point, I guess.

@NicolaLuna

Or that they think they have magical penises that leave behind destruction.

TW: seriously rape-y and abusive stuff

That brings an additional layer of terrible to the discussion. The (admittedly limited, because eeewwww) experience I have with listening to men who see women as “ruined” once they have had sex are likely to use such language literally when discussing themselves having sex with a woman. Which is to say, while complaining about the “loose vaginas” of today, they’re simultaneously aroused by the thought of being the person who “loosens” it with his perceived enormously large dick that is prone to cause actual physical suffering to his partner. They fantasize about “destroying” a woman (or “girl” as is more likely they’d say) with sex. They get off on that thought. Which is all kind of awful.

/TW

EDIT (I simply have to use it now that it’s possible): Love what you’ve done with the place, David.

Jo
Jo
8 years ago

Fears about penis size are a very real cause of stress and insecurity among young men, even though the number of potential sexual partners for whom it’s a significant issue is very small.

MGTOWs and others who insist on talking about penis size as if it’s a major factor in partner choice are contributing to men’s problems. MGTOWs are making things worse for men.

In other news, the pope is a practising member of the Roman Catholic church. (But rumour has it that he’s a bit under-endowed, so who cares about him?)

John Smith
John Smith
8 years ago

I am a STRONG, SECURE man and a MGTOW. I have no insecurities about my penis size AT ALL. It’s not big, it’s not small, it’s average. I have been told many times it is just right. Many men are insecure. These men probably had a difficult time as a teenager. Any man who has lived through his teens knows that when a female gets her feelings hurt in any way, the first thing she will do is try to embarrass him by saying he has a small penis.Most men build an immunity to this, but some don’t.Due to the difference between boys and girls, boys don’t usually have a network of support to help them with this like girls do.As adults, females still do this when they get their feelings hurt only now they say it after sex and add that they were “faking it” just to be extra hurtful. A weak man will be crushed by this. Now you know why some men are insecure. I am not.As a MGTOW, I don’t chase women and I cannot be manipulated/controlled by sex.Also , for the record, I would just like to add MGTOWs are NOT misogynists. Once a man takes the Red Pill, he most likely will be upset at learning the truth. This is called “Red Pill Rage”. This does not excuse any hateful comments made, but it does explain them.On behalf of the MGTOW community, I apologize for any unecessary lashing out anyone here has experienced by a MGTOW. We do not attack unless attacked first.

Walter
Walter
8 years ago

Contrapangloss

Doctors and engineers aren’t appropriate jobs for men. Men will do menial labor and work in mines.

Anarchonist

These are my real beliefs. I’ve written about them extensively on other sites. Including my theory on the true nature of the universe. Some people hate my views, some think they’re funny, but they are always my true thoughts.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
8 years ago

Doctors and engineers aren’t appropriate jobs for men. Men will do menial labor and work in mines.

Seriously.

dhag85
8 years ago

I’m bored with this now.

ej
ej
8 years ago

@dhag85

I’m bored with this now.

Me too. It stopped being funny awhile ago. It’s repetitive and annoying now.

@Argenti Aertheri

SPOILER ALERT
an immortal woman and a woman locked in her last breath are running around in a stolen TARDIS that looks like a diner so who knows!

I was kind of hoping that the Christmas special would be one of their adventures, but I guess the return of River Song will have to do.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 years ago

dhag – yeah, I’m also bored with this. I still haven’t forgiven Walter for referring to it as a “dingaling” in the other thread and getting that godawful Chuck Berry song stuck in my head.

Walter, a cockocracy isn’t going to fix all the problems of the world, it’s going to make them worse. Inevitably you’re going to wind up preventing a lot of people with an aptitude for certain things from doing those things based on an arbitrary, unrelated measurement. You’re proposing to send Einstein into the mines, and let John Dillinger* be president. How is that any different from thwarting people with aptitude based on not having a penis?

It’s as childish as saying we should rank people by hair color, and all the blondes should toil in the mines** because obviously they’re inferior, because they’re blonde, and therefore inferior. Circular reasoning is circular.

Also…and I know I’m going to regret asking this…how are you proposing to keep the large-dicked “busy with mindless busy work”? Killing spiders? Rolling up small sheets of wrapping paper? What?

*I know Dillinger’s endowment was mythical, but any criminal with a bell end at the end of the bell curve will do to support this example.

**Not to mine-shame. I don’t know why that’s always the go-to job for Brawny Mindless Drones among manospherians. Hasn’t anyone ever read October Sky?

Taffer
Taffer
8 years ago

Well, clearly the problem is that Walter can’t logically defend the idea, since he’s just a man. Look sweetie, just put on the woman who thought of it so we can have an actual logical discussion about it.

Or did you actually think of it yourself? Hmm, if that’s the case then I heard somewhere that men are only valued for their dicks and shouldn’t have any say in major world decisions. So I think we’re done here.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
8 years ago

@Olive O’Sudden

“…The only thing comparable to the ‘little blue pill’ for women would be a pill that causes vaginal lubrication and increased blood flow to the genitals. Erection pills don’t induce arousal in men, they just induce erections. Women may experience lowered sexual interest because of lower testosterone levels (as will men if their levels are too low), but for most women, a lack of interest in sex with their partner is caused by stress, fatigue, interpersonal conflict, believing (or having a partner who believes) that sex always means PIV coitus, or fundamental sexual incompatibility…”

This is all well and factual, however, it says nothing about how long the wait has been. A man who takes a pill for the purposes of getting and keeping an erection (what, they play those commercials an awful lot so people are bound to recall what is said!) is generally taking it with the expectation of using that erection for sexual activities. If he’s gotten that far then he’s probably at the point of feeling a bit aroused and making amorous overtures towards his partner. I didn’t say it would be easy to come up with a comparable ‘little blue pill’ option for women or that there are uncomplicated reasons for female sexual dysfunction/low sexual libido.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

“…we should rank people by hair color, and all the blondes should toil in the mines** …”

Blondes only make up about 1% of the total population in terms of hair color, not nearly enough for a satisfactorily large quantity of workers for the mines! And I am totally not saying this because I am one. 😉 Ok maybe it’s part of the reason, but the rest of it is legitimately about the numbers. 🙂 What happens if we stop the mining industry as a whole? We’ll have a lot of people who need to be found other things to keep them busy with, that’s what! 😉

Rosie*sings*
Rosie*sings*
8 years ago

Why can’t these men go their own way somewhere else? They’re obsessed.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 years ago

@msexceptiontotherule – Yeah, blondes in the mines would be a pretty top-heavy society (but so would one in which average-to-small men were excluded). I was trying not to sound racist. Putting blondes at the top would have risked coming across that way.

Maybe we should rank people by some other random characteristic to show how unworkable the system is – whistling ability, or detached earlobes.

Sorry, Walter, it ain’t gonna happen. You haven’t given us any compelling reason why society should be structured around your personal sexual fantasies, other than your gut belief that it will be perfect. For you. Not so much so for people who aren’t obsessed with dick length, and we outnumber you by a wide margin. Maybe you should be more focused on that number instead.

NicolaLuna
NicolaLuna
8 years ago

@Anarchonist

The (admittedly limited, because eeewwww) experience I have with listening to men who see women as “ruined” once they have had sex are likely to use such language literally when discussing themselves having sex with a woman.

Yeah I’ve dated a couple of guys who used the phrase “ruin you/her” when referencing sex and it never fails to creep me out. It just screams toxic masculinity.

Also: I now need to go find the other penis thread because Walter is making me laugh so much. He’s definitely trying hard to make the shortlist for troll of the year.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

Walter’s fetishising large cocks again and saying that their bearers need to be in charge? There’s only one person who can help us.

Send up the Moocow signal!

weirwoodtreehugger
8 years ago

Maybe we should rank people by some other random characteristic to show how unworkable the system is – whistling ability, or detached earlobes.

I’ve got the answer.

Wrist circumference.

Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
8 years ago

However I think there is something in the tightness/looseness V issue that’s actually down to overall fitness, health and muscle tone. I reckon a fit, muscular woman is going to be the most appropriately tight.

Wut? No.

I know I’m a data point of one here, but I’m overweight and out of shape and tighter than I’ve ever been.

I read a blog post/comment thread on this very subject years ago (with hundreds of comments) which pointed to the opposite, in fact. WRT body size, that is, not physical fitness.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 years ago

If Moocow says this whole ranking system is nonsense, then Walter will have to bow down to his judgment.

I think we may have a paradox here.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
8 years ago

Is Walter the Timecube guy? Or just taking inspiration?

Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

*whistles* (metaphorically, cuz I can’t) I see I’m still being ignored by Walter. What, do you not know how to sort me since I’m not gonna tell you what’s in my pants?