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Worried about your penis size? Blame feminism, MGTOW explains

Not everyone has a giant wiener
Not everyone has a giant wiener

The Great Penis Size Freakout Debate continues. On the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, one of the regulars has dug up a Youtube video from a random woman who doesn’t like small dicks.

Never mind that men worry a lot more about the size of their dicks than women do — hell, one survey found that women tend to be far more concerned with proper pubic-hair grooming  than the length of their partner’s dingle dangles. Reddit’s MGTOW army saw this video as an example of rare female honesty on this perilous topic.

“[T]his is just proof if you’re not above average you are nothing,” one Reddit MGTOW moaned.

[I]f she complains and you aren’t small, next the bitch, she’s either got something wrong with her pussy or she got her head filled with some of her girl group bullshit, and it’s not worth the trouble.

Naturally, it didn’t take long for someone to blame feminism for the size queens of the world. ShitfacedBatman reassured his fellow MGTOWs that only sluts and feminists complain about small penises.

Date short and cute feminine women and you’ll never need to worry about your penis size. Date a woman prone to getting FAT, a woman close to your height, a woman with a big-ass ass, or a sex-industry woman who’s been cored out a few times and it’s “possible” size is a factor in those cases.

You know, women being “cored out” by large penises isn’t actually a thing. The sturdy vagina can recover from childbirth, and there aren’t really a lot of men out there whose penises are literally larger than a baby.

But, as ShitfacedBatman sees it, size queens are only lashing out because they are losers in the “tight vagina” contest that apparently all women are competing in.

Here’s the dealio tho: women that say size matters are saying they have sexual liabilities. To be submissive, pretty, and feminine is actually a competitive sport racing towards female smallness. Women by nature should be competing to be small, tight, and “innocent” – which means size should never matter and if it does it’s her problem. (Western feminism producing masculine women is incredibly likely to be at the root of the problem.)

Apparently the most “masculine women” are the ones with huge vaginas.

I think the whole “huge vagina” argument made a lot more sense when Larry David explained it on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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brian
brian
5 years ago

“Women by nature should be competing to be small, tight, and ‘innocent'”
I wouldn’t find this worth commenting on except for the “by nature” part. That usually suggests they’re trying to come up with some “evolutionary” excuse for one of their ideas… but I’m curious how they’d figure that evolution would trend toward women being “small, tight, and ‘innocent'” Because none of those things seem obviously positive from the standpoint of purely getting your DNA out there.

Judas Peckerwood
Judas Peckerwood
5 years ago

I don’t know what these guys are worried about. I can’t think of any bigger dicks than the MRA/MGTOW/PUA crowd.

Ellesar
Ellesar
5 years ago

Why is there dating ‘advice’ on an MGTOW subreddit?! Aren’t they supposed to be sharing anti dating/ how to stay away from women?

Oh yes, that’s right, they don’t actually want to go their own way, they just want women to be childlike, docile, submissive, boner pleasing and never over 30 or fat. Hey man that’s tough!

MexicanHotChocolate
MexicanHotChocolate
5 years ago

These men are going their own way, so what does it matter what women think about their dick size?

Judas Peckerwood
Judas Peckerwood
5 years ago

These men are going their own way, so what does it matter what women think about their dick size?

They’re just concerned about the poor helpless men they’re leaving behind. Who will stand up for THEIR penises?

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

I’ve always been baffled by the strange idea that a vagina becomes less tight if its owner gains weight. It’s up there with the weirdest ideas I’ve heard, along with “cats hate their human companions” and others.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Judas Peckerwood | December 5, 2015 at 2:29 pm
I don’t know what these guys are worried about. I can’t think of any bigger dicks than the MRA/MGTOW/PUA crowd.

http://media4.giphy.com/media/13c2YVh83qgJRS/giphy.gif

Women by nature should be competing to be small, tight, and “innocent”

“- which means I’m pulling this out of my ass because this is how I think women should act based on what I want, not what is actually natural, because I wouldn’t know what was natural if a bog leech attached itself to my average-sized (But we all know it’s huge) penis.”

[TMI] And since I already ousted myself as a size queen in the last thread, does this mean I get to take responsibility for feminism, or does being a feminist automagically make me a size queen? [TMI]

lacerta viridis
lacerta viridis
5 years ago
Reply to  dhag85

@dhag85 Yeah, I was confused about that too. Why the hell would that happen?

(Also if my cat hates me, someone needs to tell her to stop spending all her time sitting on me and purring.)

NicolaLuna
NicolaLuna
5 years ago

That whole “coring out” thing just makes it clear how ignorant they are of female anatomy. Or that they think they have magical penises that leave behind destruction.

And yeah, if I can have 2 babies and still have good sex then I’m pretty sure vaginas don’t work how these guys think they work. Or how would anyone have more than one child?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

Hell, by that logic each kid should be easier to deliver than the first, their way having been paved by their older sibling(s). And I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work like that.

Patrick O.
Patrick O.
5 years ago

I’m totally stealing that graphic of the dude riding the sausage with horse legs. That is UNIQUE.

Irene
Irene
5 years ago

Actually, labor and delivery does on average get shorter and easier with each child, but that’s not because the vagina is prestretched. (And there are, of course, numerous exceptions, depending on the position of the baby and so on.)

Amy
Amy
5 years ago

I can only echo the bafflement already here. I don’t understand why the guys who buy into the idea that women’s vaginas get stretched and damaged by ‘too much’ sex don’t immediately lose all credibility amongst their peers. This is something that teenage boys think before they have any sexual experience.

I guess because none of the MGTOW have the knowledge of female anatomy to call them out on it, and the cycle continues.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

I’m almost sure my vagina doesn’t change size when I gain weight. But then again I’m not an expert like a man who knows about evolution and nature and stuff. Being a scientimatist comes with the territory when you’re a MGHOW.

ducking
ducking
5 years ago

Somebody should tell those guys that women are not balloons..

Not EVERYTHING is expanding, if we get bigger in size…. -_-

Nequam
Nequam
5 years ago
Reply to  Patrick O.

That’s from some Silver Age Superman comic and that’s Jimmy Olsen on the sausage steed.

I suspect it makes just as much sense in context.

erica, ascendant
5 years ago

If they’re so busy going their own way, why on God’s green earth do they care about what women do?

I mean, to the MGTOW we’re this evil force that they must be protected from who might use vagina magic (or the infamous vaginal mind-control goo) to do things to their mind. That logic says that they shouldn’t give a crap about us at all.

(Exempting, of course, that I’m one of them tranzomosexuals and the MGTOWs tend to be the most violently transmisogynist of the massively transmisogynist men’s rights bowel movement…but eh, details.)

Lady Mondegreen
Lady Mondegreen
5 years ago

Women by nature should be competing to be small, tight, and “innocent

Yeah, natural selection never cared if you were tough enough to survive the rigors of infancy and childhood in pre- and early- civilization, or about maximizing the number of young you could successfully bear and raise! What natural selection cared about: appear non-threatening to dimbulb celibate males.

Western feminism producing masculine women is incredibly likely to be at the root of the problem

Well, feminism is at the root (heh heh, he said “root.” So did I) of his real problem: Women being free enough to express their sexual preferences and erotic judgments of men.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

Lady Mondegreen laughing at ‘root’ reminded me of a horrible misandrist joke me and my friend had in high school. We each had a crush on some guys and to avoid discussing them and getting caught we referred to them as ‘X’ and ‘Y’, respectively. Maths lessons took a more interesting turn when solving the value of x and y (value = size, tee hee). One time the answer was ‘no root’ and I heard a held-back laugh from the seat behind me.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
5 years ago

Who will stand up for THEIR penises?

I should hope their penises are able to stand up on their own. (Well, barring impotence for whatever reason, of course.)

Tyra Lith
Tyra Lith
5 years ago

ShitfacedBatman also has this to say:

Ask yourself this too: when was the last time you fucked a woman that wasn’t drowning in moans and orgasmic bliss? They ALL freak the hell out EVERY time they get fucked. My personal experience and pornographic voyeur experience keeps validating that. If my dick was any bigger, I’d have more neighbors annoyed and angry at me for my late night shenanigans.

It’s so sad how those dudes don’t realise that the women in porn get paid not only to do sexual things but also for acting as if they get off on it.
oh and yes, I totally believe him when he writes about his “personal experience”. totally. *facepalm*

weirwoodtreehugger
weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Is this a new manuresphere theory that being taller and/or heavier = larger vagina? Because I’d never heard that ever until the other penis thread from earlier in the week. Did they not notice that petite women manage to give birth too? And if petite women manage to birth a child, they are plenty large vagina’d enough to accommodate a penis that isn’t small.

I’ve heard the pseudoscience about “sluts” having loose vaginas before. But the tall and/or fat women having loose vaginas is a new one.

Does this mean they’d turn down supermodels? I mean, they’re tall so they must have vaginas too cavernous to please a boner. Right?

I’m curious how they’d figure that evolution would trend toward women being “small, tight, and ‘innocent’” Because none of those things seem obviously positive from the standpoint of purely getting your DNA out there.

It would actually be a negative. A small birth canal means it’s more dangerous to give birth and the baby is more likely to have a low birth weight. This is also why it’s bullshit when they claim it’s “natural” for men to like very young girls.

Orion
Orion
5 years ago

Is this a new manuresphere theory that being taller and/or heavier = larger vagina?

Doesn’t it? MGTOWs are too dumb tot tell the difference between gaining weight and being born with a large frame, and thus say absurd things. But my experience, and received anecdotes suggest that tall women with wide hips do have an easier time with large insertions. I have not look at any research studies on vagina size, but I know that penis size correlates with height, and I’d expect the same to obtain for women.

Orion
Orion
5 years ago

Digging a little deeper, I’m actually getting mixed reports on height/penis correlation.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

@Tyra Lith

That’s a pretty amazing quote. Made me laugh for real.

@wwth

I’ve been aware of this myth/misconception for a very long time. There’s a popular 4chanesque Swedish message board where people regularly discuss the trufax about Asian women being small and therefore “tighter” whereas fat women are loose. There’s never any explanation as to why/how this would be the case. On occassion someone will question these known truths, but he will inevitably be ridiculed for his lack of trust in sciencey truthiness.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

@Orion

I know that every time I eat a chocolate bar it adds another 1/2 inch to my penis.

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

Women by nature should be competing to be small, tight, and “innocent”

So women should be competing to be like children? Creeepy.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

I remember reading Charles Bukowski as a teenager and in one of his adventures he was genuinely surprised when a fat woman was ‘tight’.
I guess this myth has been around for a long while.

Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
5 years ago

We’ll be able to custom design alphabots soon;

http://www.outajamaica.com/uncategorized/sex-robots-are-being-made-to-replace-men-by-2025/

“Women by nature should be competing to be small, tight, and “innocent”

I’m unapologetically happy that perverse creeps like that feel insecure about their private parts. May the insecurity increase leaps and bounds going forward!

Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
5 years ago

Oh and one more thing. A very well endowed male friend of mine from the islands said, “there’s no such thing as a loose vagina” years ago after he came to the States and heard such nonsense from American men.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

There’s nothing wrong with preferences but It’s amazing that there are guys out there who would get so steamed over Womens’ preferences wether it’s just length and height and in the very next paragraph would list all their preferences: must be a virgin, always beautiful, skinny and young and so forth.

Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
5 years ago

” This is also why it’s bullshit when they claim it’s “natural” for men to like very young girls.”

Year after year “the wall” gets younger and younger. I think they first started out saying its 30, then it was 27, then mid 20s. Recently I read a pseudo scientific diatribe stating that “human females” are at peak attractiveness at … brace yourselves…7. The reasoning was a male can be assured she’s pre-pubescent and still a virgin, which means if he can get her when she first menstruates, he’ll be the first, and presumably only one, and therefore not a cuck.

HeinzD
HeinzD
5 years ago

Recently I read a pseudo scientific diatribe stating that “human females” are at peak attractiveness at … brace yourselves…7. The reasoning was a male can be assured she’s pre-pubescent and still a virgin, which means if he can get her when she first menstruates, he’ll be the first, and presumably only one, and therefore not a cuck.

Yuck. Just yuck.

bluecat
bluecat
5 years ago

On the fat/loose myth: if you have a vagina and use a diaphragm, you actually need to go up a diaphragm size if you lose much weight, and down a size if you gain.

I was very surprised by this, but of course it isn’t the body cavity that gets narrower but the walls of it, meaning more space inside.

So fatter *should* mean tighter.

Except of course, it doesn’t, because tightness is mainly an effect of those wonderful elastic muscles of the vulva, which bear no relation to body fat at all.

But no surprise at MGTOW not knowing a thing about anatomy – anybody’s anatomy!

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

December 5, 2015 at 3:27 pm
Somebody should tell those guys that women are not balloons..

Not EVERYTHING is expanding, if we get bigger in size…. -_-

But…but….Big Bang Theory states that all vaginas have a red Doppler shift and are constantly expanding at a steady rate. There simply isn’t enough Dark Triad matter to hold it all together.

This has been conclusively scienced, by experts whose exposure (by definition) is largely theoretical.

Women by nature should be

Whoa, whoa, stop right there, bucko. “By nature” and “should be” don’t belong in the same sentence. They contradict each other.

If a sizable group of woman “should be” engaging in a behavior but aren’t, then how can it be “in their nature”?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

Women by nature should be competing to be small, tight, and “innocent”

Wat?

Has this nitwit never heard of “child-bearing hips”?

Jen
Jen
5 years ago

The vaginal muscles relax with arousal, so a tight woman is a woman who is completely unaroused. D: But of course, these guys don’t actually care about the woman’s pleasure.

Orion
Orion
5 years ago

Guess I was wrong. Unsurprisingly, since I was generalizing from <20 data.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

@Jen

“The vaginal muscles relax with arousal, so a tight woman is a woman who is completely unaroused.”

I know what you meant but I’m still going to use your comment as a bridge to the subject I have in mind. Sorry!

Some of us are small, just naturally. And some experience ‘tightness’ even when aroused. The women who seek help to these problems are usually belittled and nothing is done, as women’s issues with sex aren’t deemed that important. Hell, a woman in a documentary went to doctor after doctor for her very actual pain related to intercourse. They just gave her anti-anxiety meds even though she said it did nothing. Very little of the medical field is actually dedicated to women’s sexual health, even though some of it studies the bits in question. Intercourse pain and tightness are real issues, affecting relationships and lives of women.

But as I said, the comment I quoted I’m sure has nothing to do with this, an unaroused woman is sure hard to penetrate.

*Edit: Harder to penetrate than the woman in question aroused.

P.S. I love *edit’ window!!!

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@Jen

“The vaginal muscles relax with arousal, so a tight woman is a woman who is completely unaroused…”

Not necessarily. But theoretically, sure why not. 😉

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@Leda Atomica

How long have women been waiting for their ‘little blue pill’-comparable option? Yet in some circles, it’s lamented that so much money is raised for women’s cancers such as breast or other reproductive organs. The fact of the matter is that research by pharmaceutical companies and on diseases/medical matters has long been low on women participants in studies. Too many risks and variables in using human females, I believe is the explanation.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

Too many risks and variables in using human females, I believe is the explanation.

The explanation (which is bullshit) is that a female mouse’s ovulation cycle is a confounding factor in research, and that both carries over to human subjects if/when the treatment reaches that stage, and it discourages research into female reproductive issues because you obviously can’t model those with male mice.

Somehow the male mouse circadian cycle is not a problem, and the male mouse hormonal cycle is also not a problem, and every other cyclical change in a male mouse’s metabolism is not a problem. The only cycle that is confounding is the one that male mice don’t experience. And it’s super-unimportant to figure out how to account for that non-male cycle the way we’ve figured out how to account for the other cycles, because people with uteri aren’t really important and may not actually be people.

Ellesar
Ellesar
5 years ago

The Karma Sutra is very clear on the need for a good match re genital size – it is quite simple – if you are deerlike you should seek a doelike, if elephantlike the same – it is all I remember from the brief reading I did when I was 18.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@PoM

I think the explanation is a pile of steaming stinky feces myself, but that’s the one I’ve come across most often and for whatever reason, those who give it don’t bother to even try and explain why they would stop there instead of treating it all like “this is something new to find out about!” It’s not like there’s a shortage of mice of either gender. They can always “make more” – so to speak.

chosen_name
chosen_name
5 years ago

Just imagine the abject terror these assholes would experience if they met Storm Large and her vagina that is 8 miles wide.

(content notice: sexualized content and a near absence of people of color. But what’s new, eh?)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

WWTH — “…they’re tall so they must have vaginas too cavernous to please a boner.”

That’s the part that really bugs me (well, besides every other part) — they never say that their boners aren’t pleased, it’s always a comment on the “morals” of women or similar. It’s not that these (physically) loose women aren’t pleasurable to be inside, it’s that if a woman comments on the smallness of their member it’s cuz she’s all stretched out. Take sex out of it, right, and you get:

“Your coffee is awfully weak.”
“Well you run around drinking just anyone’s coffee, of course you think my average coffee is weak. Maybe if you weren’t taking it from anyone who offers you’d like my coffee!”
“…dude, you have issues, not least of which being your coffee”

Also, $5 says these guys grew up hearing about “loose women” and it somehow never clicked that that lovely phrase means morally loose, not physically.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

“Woman, thou art loosed!” or something. 😉

Walter
Walter
5 years ago

One of them was right when he wrote, “if you’re not above average you are nothing.”

A man’s value is determined by his penis size. This value has nothing to do with women though. It’s more about showing superior masculinity and manliness in order to establish the proper pecking order between men.

All that other stuff about loose vaginas was totally wrong and ridiculous. I visit a lot of sites that are very concerned with dick size and for the most part, the women who visit those sites don’t care about penis size. At least not as much as the men. There are of course some women who value it greatly, and it is their right to do so, but the majority of women that I’ve encountered are able to enjoy a variety of sizes. These guys would do well to listen to women instead of going off half-cocked with their own stupid ideas.

katz
5 years ago

Also, $5 says these guys grew up hearing about “loose women” and it somehow never clicked that that lovely phrase means morally loose, not physically.

OMG, I think you’re right! That’s hilarious!

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
5 years ago

Walter
December 5, 2015 at 8:30 pm

These guys would do well to listen to women instead of going off half-cocked with their own stupid ideas.

*looks at the camera like I’m on The Office*

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