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The Future is Now

Welcome to the new, improved We Hunted the Mammoth!

We’ve moved from WordPress.com and replaced the old WordPress theme with a streamlined custom theme. And we’ve been able to implement a number of long-requested features that will make navigation easier and commenting more pleasant. In related news, the Blockquote Monster has resigned to spend more time with his family.

Moving a blog with 2471 posts and 573,557 comments (yes, really) to a new server is a messy job. We were offline for longer than we expected while we tried to get all the old content up. And we’re still sorting through issues with plugins and widgets and so on. If you notice some weirdness going on please let me know in the comments below. Or send me an email.

And let me know what you think of the new features.

HUGE HUGE HUGE thanks to Tracy Bradley, who handled the redesign and the big messy move and dealt with all the technical glitches that came up. For free. Without her help the new site would look crappy and not work and my head would have exploded from frustration about a dozen times. Hire her for stuff!

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Fiona
Fiona
5 years ago

I’m having a lot of trouble using this on Android Chrome. Embedded media like YouTube links are coming up as plain html and the information doesn’t always fit within the screen. I took some screenshots and wanted to email them in but I can’t find a contact address.

Sorry for not finding that mods/David! The layout is really pretty.

Xanthë
5 years ago

The redesign looks great, well done David and Tracy!

Testing the blockquoting button:

The Future is Now

Also, 5 minute edit window. Nice.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

I’m not so sure I agree with all the design choices made here, however, it’s only been a few minutes, and my eyes are still adjusting. (Sorry, my vision’s a little wonky. I don’t know if it’s due to old eye problems, or me not feeling quite right today.)

I think what I miss most is the splashes of color on the headers and the like. It made everything easy to distinguish visually. I also don’t think a “Random Posts” thing is a good idea. It could encourage necroing and/or trolls.

The new fonts are nice though, and a lot of things seem better organized.

After a few weeks, maybe it’ll grow on me? I mean, I could be suffering from Old Design Bias (which is totally a thing).

EDIT: The edit button seems to work, and it’s cool that we have a timer. Also, no I can’t see the image at the top of the page, and it does lead to a broken link.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

Welcome back, David! 🙂

The site looks great and I’ve been furiously refreshing throughout the day to see if it was up yet.

I have three off topic things I must mention, so I guess I’ll just post them here? (Feel free to move or remove this comment if it’s unwanted.)

1.

Not sure if this has been mentioned on WHTM yet, but it seems like George Zimmerman got suspended from Twitter for doxxing and posting revenge porn pictures of his ex girlfriend, who, allegedly, “cheated on [Zimmerman] with a dirty Muslim”.

This was the actual conversation between me and my wife this morning:

Wife: If you had to say one person who just got suspended from Twitter for posting nudes of his ex girlfriend without consent, who would you guess?
Me: Is it a celebrity?
Wife: Meh..
Me: George Zimmerman
Wife: Whoa

2.

Sad news. The 42 year old teacher, Nazir, who has been in critical condition since the school attack in Trollhättan died in the hospital yesterday. He was expected to recover, but in the end he never did. That means the final death toll for this attack is 3, all of which had “foreign” names and backgrounds.

3.

I don’t know how I missed this when it happened (about a month ago), but a mainstream Swedish news website for some reason published an article basically parrotting the American MRA nonsense. The author complained about feminism “ruining an entire generation of girls”, “painting all men as rapists”, and proclaiming “most instances of domestic violence are committed by women”, “feminists are the REAL sexists”, “feminists want equal rights but not equal responsibilities”, “redefining rape!” etc etc etc. All the same old talking points. The comment section was obviously flooded by assholes cheering for this article, “finally someone dares to tell the truth!!”.

The kicker? It was written by a 15 year old guy in 9th grade. Already drowning in “false rape allegations” at that age, huh? -_-

I have to wonder if a mainstream news source has any sort of responsibility for protecting a child who wants to publish an article like this. He’s clearly just repeating what he’s heard from others, and read elsewhere, because I think his personal experience with “affirmative action” and rape allegations is fairly limited at this point. It’s been published with his full name and picture attached. If this kid grows up to be a decent person, this thing will haunt him.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

I am not seeing the pic. Just a broken link.

EDIT: Ohhhh yeah, loving the edit function. I always notice spelling/grammar errors immediately after posting. :p

EDIT 2: Is everyone in auto-moderation now, or did I do something wrong?

Fiona
Fiona
5 years ago
Reply to  David Futrelle

Nope 🙁

personalpest
personalpest
5 years ago
Reply to  David Futrelle

I’m not seeing the pic.

Taffer
Taffer
5 years ago
Reply to  David Futrelle

I see it. Seen it since the post was there.
Chrome on OSX, iff’n it matters.

Tried it on Safari and got a broken link.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago
Reply to  dhag85

@dhag85: I was moderated as well, so I just assumed it was a consequence of the new site going up and everything being moved.

lightcastle
lightcastle
5 years ago

I see the pic fine.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

Yup, picture is now working for me.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

There’s no margin on the right side of the screen using Chrome for Android, just FYI.

And thanks for all the hard work getting everything moved. 🙂

Mewens
Mewens
5 years ago

New site’s loading a lot faster for my, uh, “seasoned” work computer.

New comment box is much improved as well. I’ll play with the reply system later; I’m inclined to muchly appreciate it, I like a softly nested comment system.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

The link to the comments policy does not work for me.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

In the last few months I’ve had severe problems with WHTM, with tabs slowing down my computer significantly, crashing my browser, making everything freeze etc. Having none of those problems right now in 2.0. 🙂

Auntie Alias
Auntie Alias
5 years ago

If it’s not on WordPress, how are people displaying avatars?

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

Looks great!
I had to come and test the commenting, much like a new mattress requires odd bouncing gestures.

maistrechat
5 years ago

Everything but the comments policy link seems to be working for me.

It’s also loading much much faster than the old site.

EDIT:
Like how the edit function works too.

Auntie Alias
Auntie Alias
5 years ago
Reply to  David Futrelle

Thanks, David. I’m gonna try the Reply button this time.

I’m glad this thing remembers my identity so I don’t have to retype my name and email every time.

Let’s see if the WP emoticons still work: 🙂 :bear:

Miss Andry
5 years ago

Nice, very nice. I’d do the same for my website but, well, I can’t afford to and I don’t take donations. I know I haven’t updated in a while but I’ve been preoccupied by work and back surgery. I’ll be writing something about the PP shooting incident, I just have to make time.

DS
DS
5 years ago
Reply to  David Futrelle

I see one (1) adorable disembodied kitteh head atop a cold, unfeeling steel automaton. So that’s more or less what cats always look like to me so…yea, carry on with your plotting of world dominion, felines.

Addendum: It looks like if you hit submit without filling in name etc. and then you go back and fill that information in upon the error page’s request to do so, the page then says “Duplicate post detected. Oops! It seems as though you’ve already said that.” even though the initial post did not go through.

Orion
Orion
5 years ago

Are the headers on comments meant to be huge?

Dawn Incognito
Dawn Incognito
5 years ago

I kinda dig the Robot Cat, although I think his sign should read “feed me puny human”.

Into moderation with me!

nparker
nparker
5 years ago

It looks rather good! I’d already gotten used to the old design (despite only reading the site for a few weeks), but I’m sure my eyes will adjust with some time. Great new design.

Tovius
Tovius
5 years ago

I’m really liking the new site, from what I’ve seen of it so far. No more blockquote mammoth!

nparker
nparker
5 years ago

Its such a shame I’ll never know the honour of being tricked by the Blockquote Mammoth…

weirwoodtreehugger
weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I like that avatar pics are larger now. Especially since so many people have cute kitties as their avatars.

tricyclist
tricyclist
5 years ago

Have commented infrequently under my twitter handle “tricyclist” Going to try a block quote now

Blockquote

How about that.

How are people adding profile pics? Is there a way to create a commenters account?

ej
ej
5 years ago

I like the new design. It’s sleek and looks very clean.

In the last few months I’ve had severe problems with WHTM, with tabs slowing down my computer significantly

I noticed this with the old site too. The new version is working much better. It loads faster and doesn’t seem to slow anything else down.

I’m also using this comment to get myself out of moderation.

nparker
nparker
5 years ago

David, I thought I’d escaped! Then again, its not like I’d summon it on purpose or anything…

Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
5 years ago

A number of embedded images, GIFs, and videos weren’t working for me when the new site first launched, but they’re up now. I prefer a smaller font than the one this design uses, since it means more words per screen and less time scrolling, but fortunately I can fix that from my end.

Myoo
Myoo
5 years ago

The site is looking good. Running a lot smoother too.

serrana
serrana
5 years ago

Good job, David and Tracy! The site looks great on my laptop in both landscape and portrait. Also, it’s super legible – I shrunk the size a good bit to get lots of text on the screen and I can still read it without my glasses, unlike over half of other sites.

It’s not working on my phone (Android 5 using the android browser). I get the error “there were too many redirects”. In Chrome on the same phone, I’m seeing the old site, with the latest post being the Open Thread for San Bernadino. I refreshed, same thing.

On my Kindle Fire (first generation), the site looks just like Chrome on my phone, i.e. the old site.

R.I.P. Blockquote Mammoth

ETA: Oooh, yes, 5 minutes to edit, sweet. Oh, and you’re not seeing my Thinky Kitty avatar because I’m logging in with a new email address. (It’s me, not you.)

Spindrift
Spindrift
5 years ago

Yay, maintenance is done.
Hope it doesn’t take me too long to get used to the redesign.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
5 years ago

Looks great!

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

Just posting for testing purposes.

eta: Interesting, it picked up my avatar. How’d it do that?

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

We Hunted the (Blockquote) Mammoth.

And then roasted it over an open flame. ‘Twas delicious.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

I wish the number of comments notice was at the bottom of the post like it was on the old site. I like to know approximately how long I’m going to be sucked into the comment threads before I start reading them, and it looks like the only place this number is given is at the top of the post.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago
Reply to  dhag85

Nested reply test!

Also, it’s doing something wonky on my iPad. Looks like it’s loaded and then kinda resizes for a bit before settling in. From a technical standpoint I’m guessing (and this is just a guess) that the width is being set by percentages calculated on the fly and there’s some box model weirdness going on with margins/padding/borders. I realize that makes no sense unless you do web design, but your designer should be able to work out what I mean!

And idk if it’s a result of the source link and the same thing that happened before the move, but embedded images in comments don’t seem to always be working, and the DOM element for the comment text is set to overflow: hidden and it’s weird, not sure how I’d handle that one though (z-index maybe?)

And I agree on the “random post” widget being asking for necro trouble. Otherwise… big avatars I can actually see! Little buttons for blockquotes! And I hear we can edit now? Nifty!

Edit!! It works!

And my reply to dhag, written after PI’s reply, went after PI’s reply, so that works. Might get weird if we start getting:

Comment
– reply
—- reply to reply
—— reply to reply to reply
—- reply to reply
– reply
– reply
– reply

Numenaster
Numenaster
5 years ago

I like the new layout! I was concerned yesterday when the update went on…and on…and then the message you got trying to visit the site became one terse line…

I thought you were being DDOS’d. Glad I was wrong.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
5 years ago

It took a while for me to get the website to work but, hey!

But, I agree with @Paradoxical Intention. It would be nice to have more colors to distinguish space and headers. Otherwise it’s super nice.

EDIT: And I can edit posts nice. Hopefully trolls won’t abuse this.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
5 years ago
Reply to  tricyclist

You need a Gravatar account for profile pics. Or WordPress, I think.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

Oh, there is a lot that I like about the new design. It’s sleek and readable, and I like that the comments policy is right there in your face when you go to start a comment.

Really, the location of the number of comments is my only gripe, and that is a really insignificant gripe.

Tovius
Tovius
5 years ago
Reply to  David Futrelle

@David Futrelle

dhag, glad it’s working better! WordPress was putting a lot of flash ads on the site that may have been part of the problem. I will be running ads, but will do my best to avoid those sorts of ads.

That’s good! I had to use adblock because the ads were too much for my computer. Hopefully that won’t be necessary now.

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