Over on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit, the regulars have come up with a new thing to hate about women: their alleged ignorance about penis size.
One Red Piller by the name of rumham730 touched off a discussion on this important issue with a plaintive query: “Why the hell do so many girls think normal sized dicks are “small”?”
Runham730 explains that he had just had a conversation with “this 18 yo bi girl at work” that left him fuming. After overhearing her say that “every guy I’ve been with was super small,” he asked
how small, and she responded with “idk like 5 or 6 inches.”
WHEN THE FUCK DID THE AVERAGE penis size become “super small”?
I have a 6 inch dick so yes this hurt my feelings a little bit even though this girl means nothing to me. …
It just pisses me off. The chick who said this has no tits at all, but yet if I made a comment about flat chested girls around her, you better believe I’d be considered an asshole. Yet girls can make snide remarks about “small” dicks all day long and no one bats an eye.
Well, except for the dudes who post angry rants about it online.
As it turns out, the alleged ignorance of women re dick size happens to be something of a sore point with the Ask the Red Pill regulars, many of whom have strong opinions on the matter.
StarDestinyGuy noted that
One girl I hooked up with said the last two boyfriends she had had 11″ dicks.
The odds of that are so small it’s practically 0.
They are ridiculously ignorant/oblivious on the topic of penis size.
IoSonCalaf seconded his notion:
Women really don’t understand dick size. Trust me. They have no idea what they’re talking about. Half the time they don’t even know what dress size they are
FrameWalker added
Yeah dude they don’t have any idea. Girls overestimated my size by three inches at times. I’m average. I think half inch variations feel like two inches to them.
Dude, I hate to break it to you, but those women weren’t confused or ignorant; they were being nice to you.
MightyTaint offered his own math:
Girls are dumb as hell when it comes to dick size. A guy with a 3″ will tell her it’s 5″ (just a little below average baby!). A 6″ guy will tell her it’s 8″. A 7″ guy will tell her it’s 10″.
If that girl thinks 5″ to 6″ is small, she is going to think a 7″ dick is really 10″. …
The only women who brag about fucking big dicks are whores.
InscrutablePUA delivered his verdict in the form of a numbered list:
1) They don’t know what the actual lengths and girths of the dicks they’ve had before were.
2) Level of dryness/expansion of the vagina affects how big a dick feels.
3) Girls are just lousy at estimating dick size because guys probably inflate their own dick sizes.
4) Remember that the bottom 50 perhaps 80% of men are invisible to women. If the top 20% of dick sizes are 7+ inches then that’s what they consider as ‘normal’.
Wait, what?
Since the men of the world don’t generally walk around with boners sticking out the front of their pants, how exactly can women even tell which men are in the top 20%, dick-size-wise?
MightyTaint offered a rather different assessment, arguing that a man’s alphaness matters more than his dick size.
If a guy really comes off as an alpha, she’ll convince herself his dick was twice as big as it was. It just has to be otherwise why is he so confidant? Typical rationalization.
Niczar went further, suggesting that
Dick size only matters if you’re ashamed of it. It’s always big enough when you’re making her choke on it.
Lovely.
Suck_My_Zarflog, meanwhile, reported that the gemlike hardness of his average-sized zarflog penis regularly fooled the ladies into thinking it was bugger than it really is.
My dick is average, 6.5 at most. However, I’m well known for having a huge dick because…my dick gets really hard, like really really hard. So when I’m fucking girls it feels more “intrusive” than some of the softer guys with 8″ that I’ve seen… Yes, I know this from experience 😉 Most bigger dicks can’t get as much blood into them and aren’t as hard.
awalt_cupcake raised the possibility that women today have developed an intricate dick-size-sharing network, ensuring that all women can learn in advance the penis size of any man they’re considering having sex with:
I dunno man girls lately keep tabs on guys with big dicks. How could they not? Snapchat, multi media texting to prove it, the immaturity of it all starting in highschool when Billy MonsterCockTM had sex with Sharon the captain of the cheerleading squad and she told all her friends who ended up telling the world.
But he’s come to terms with the size of his own penis:
In the end, it doesn’t matter. Unless you get surgery to make your soldier huge, you’re stuck with it. Make the foreplay and sex fun for you and it will be fun for her (unless she’s a slut) and move on with yourself.
Just remember: never get married.
Cyberdellic drew a rather different conclusion. As he sees it, his average-sized penis — “5.75 non bone pressed and 6.25 to6.5 bone pressed” — will never be enough to satisfy the shallow “hypergamous” women of the west:
we live in full hypergamy so women will literally drop the guy shes with at any moment if the next guy ‘ticks all the SAME boxes’ PLUS hes got a big dick…
this is why the words of Wu Tang ring true – lust em but never trust em
most women are evil cruel manipulative macheivellian creatures… its not entirely their fault either, media and other guys make small dick jokes constantly
ive been living MGTOW the past 6 weeks and every aspect of my life is greatly improved except im not getting laid….
so to answer your question
with the advent of tinder and women being able to get pummeled by a new dick in 30 min (24/7) women have seen a lot of dicks and want to get that ‘stretched out’ feeling that is a mix of pleasure AND pain
they like that
ill never be able to go deep or stretch them out like the other men theyve been with
the ONLY workable strategy ive come up with is to move to asia, eclusively approach tiny petite 19 yr olds whove never had foreign dick before and im trying to find a tight hole
Dude, stop worrying about your dick. Your dick is fine. It’s the person attached to your dick that’s the problem.
And men who brag about having a big dick are _______. (fill in the blank)
My answer: ….the 99%.
POTENTIAL TMI WARNING
I don’t have a great depth of knowledge, but I can say from experience that anything much larger than “average” can necessitate some real…planning and consideration, especially if you’re at all a fan of rough PIV sex.
<_<
Yep.
So, yeah – PEBPAR.
Problem Exists Between Penis and Redpiller.
“Between” doesn’t quite work, but…eh.
@Alan – It had something to do with large members denoting a vulgar lack of control, right?
Semi-topical story:
A few days (in 1989) after my (now ex) wife (24yo) and I (25yo) had sex for the first time, we were at her place sitting on the couch talking. I lay down and put my head in her lap and jokingly said her thighs were small (she was 5’3″ 97lbs). To which she replied, “Yeah, well your dick is small.” To which I cleverly replied, “Huh?” She informed me that I had the shortest dick of any guy she’d been with. My emotions took over and I immediately exploded… With uncontrollable laughter. I actually fell off the couch onto the floor laughing my butt off.
Swear to $DEITY it was the funniest thing I’d ever heard. It didn’t bother me or deflate my ego; I like what I have, it works, and it’s not like I can realistically change it. When her friends heard about it they all freaked expecting that I would be angry or hurt or something. I think they were shocked more by my (non)response than anything else. I still get a kick out of it.
Just for the record: I’m 6.5″ long and 4″ in circumference, not that it matters.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled MRA/MGTOW/Red Pill rubbish.
So last time I checked, 6 inches of dick was more or less the same as 6 inches on a ruler, so what are these guys insinuating – that women are just bad at knowing how long things are? Are they trying to maintain a level of mystique by never letting women see a full glimpse? Do they have cloaking devices strapped to their genitals?
It couldn’t possibly be that they have very little experience with women and are basically just making it up based on a small number of experiences that went poorly due to their inexperience and/or terrible personalities, and then filling in the blanks with things they learned from other shitty online misogynists that are also mostly not true. Right?
PETFARP: Problem Exists Three Feet Above Red-piller’s Penis?
dlouwe and andreapeijic,
How many people do you know who can accurately estimate lengths in inches by sight? I don’t know many. Sure, women are looking at their partners’ dicks but in most cases they aren’t breaking out rulers. Out of all the objections one could make to this bizarre thread, that seems like an odd choice.
rosa,
The funny thing is, lots of men are out there measuring girth, just not these redpill guys. Gay men on the internet usually give 2 dimensions (ime obvi), and it’s not uncommon for straight male kinksters to do the same.
I find it a little fascinating/disturbing that these guys know the precise length of their penises, like down to the quarter-inch. I can certainly recognize the known penises in my world on sight or maybe touch, but I couldn’t give you a number on them…so if someone says he’s 6.385″, I have no idea a) what that’s going to look or feel like or b) whether he’s being accurate upon the reveal or c) whether that is bigger or smaller than other penis I’ve experienced. It’s really not terribly valuable information, despite its clinical/metrics-y appearance.
Also, to add to the anecdote pile, I’m on the upper edge of average as far as length goes and I can’t imagine why anyone would wish for anything longer – other than for ego (or possibly fetish) reasons. It’s basically a length that has only ever required minor care to not be in danger of bumping into my partner’s cervix. I’ve always had the impression that any longer would just cause a whole bunch of logistical issues that I’m happy not to have to deal with. But then, I’m also not a misogynist redpill turd, so I guess I have the wrong perspective to fully appreciate a good dick-size contest.
“3) Girls are just lousy at estimating dick size because guys probably inflate their own dick sizes.”
Great. He cracked the mystery and they can all stop complaining.
I assume what these guys want is to be able to lie about their own penis length but for no one else to have ever lied about their penis length so they will sound bigger than everyone else.
Average penis length ranges from 4.5″ to 6″. Not all vaginas will fit all penises easily nor will all vaginas want a penis of a specific size (or at all, depending on the preferences of the vagina owner whose body houses the vagina and all its accessory parts). Not all penises will want to go in a vagina regardless of either respective sizes and/or preferences.
A guy should be more concerned about lasting longer than a beer commercial during the superbowl (longer than the typical commercial but still not long enough) and learn how to not get all offended when given clear, explicit directions by a woman who should definitely be more familiar with what their vagina likes most. That ‘don’t need a map’ thing and fretting over size should also be removed from a guy’s guide to sex stuff because it indicates a dude who DOES need a map, has size anxiety usually without any reason to, and thinks jackhammering is how to get the ladies motor cranked. Jackhammering is NOT THE THING (usually, but I have yet to meet a woman who likes that, in fact it’s kind of universally what gets first mention in convo’s about bad sex…) so if that’s what a guy wants to do please just get a real doll or disembodied silicone ladyparts to jackhammer away on.
I also don’t know if I am totally convinced that any of these RP’s care about the lady (or HOR if that’s one’s thing) enjoying sex, much less know proper foreplay technique. I DO know that if they use porn as their instruction manual so-to-speak they’re more often than not foreplay-ing wrong.
P.S. Using spit as the only lube is bad at best and horrifically deficient at worst; wash your basement bits and trim the hedges; you are more likely to see an increase in bj’s if you uh I dunno…reciprocate, and 2 minutes before using your penis as a battering ram DOES NOT COUNT.
Kittens and Puppies (instead of kind regards)
Grumpy Katie – write your own damn ‘joy of sex’ rp’s but don’t be surprised if your manual ends up leading you to a life of..manually handling yourself while you save up for a real doll or a silicone replica of someone in porn’s ladyparts. But hey, can’t tell them guys NOTHIN’.
“his average-sized penis — ‘5.75 non bone pressed and 6.25 to6.5 bone pressed'”
WTF is this gobbledygook? WTF does (shudder) “bone pressed” mean?
Another anecdote
I haven’t had experience with a huge variety of penises. I can tell you that the size had absolutely nothing to do with any of the break ups nor did it have anything to do with satisfaction.
These guys probably don’t realize that vaginas have muscles that contract during pleasurable experiences. So even a smaller penis is going to fill the available space.
And really, with my current partner (largest in size of all previous partners) we’ve got to stop every once in a while because it’s uncomfortable. There’s only so much length before you hit my cervix and I’m not a huge fan of gut/uterus wrenching pain.
Of course if you make sure there’s a lot more to sex than just thrusting back and forth, that isn’t a problem at all.
Raysa:
I don’t know if you’re still on this thread, but I’ve heard the same thing about the micropenii’d. Not sure what the plural is, either. As long as both partners are happy…
I also loved the whole 6 weeks MGTOW thing. Adorable! It doesn’t sound like he’ll last if he’s already complaining about not getting laid though.
I don’t get the dick size obsession either. I don’t know any women who care much about it. Come to think of it, I don’t know gay men who care that much either. It’s so far down the list. I understand being insecure about a physical feature nobody else notices. I’ve been there. But don’t blame women for that insecurity.
Regarding the generalizations about “women like…”, it’s pretty obviously BS, because women are people and people (particularly HUGE swaths of the population) tend not to ALL share traits, especially something as subjective as preferences. There may be some truth to saying, for example, “women like men who take charge,” in the same way there is some truth to saying “men like sports”…might be a not-terrible assumption, but good grief, it doesn’t really tell you anything because the nuances inherent in such a broad generalization render the generalization almost entirely meaningless.
So if “women like men who take charge” is kinda true, it doesn’t tell you ANYTHING about any particular woman…what is her understanding of “taking charge”? That could be letting the man decide where to park the car or it could mean letting him pick out her clothes or it could mean wanting him to lead her around on a dog leash. Just like “men like sports” can mean playing tennis or watching football or obsessively following women’s collegiate badminton or going skeet shooting or…
My point is, a man certainly can’t assume anything about a woman (like preferences of penis size or how best to approach her) until he knows THAT woman. So, again, the generalization and its veracity is basically useless.
tl;dr: Women are people, duh
@Brian
It sounds bad…which means it definitely is. I hope they mean something like the way women’s breasts are given mammograms. Pressed between two plates. 😉
. This is true, and it’s also true that most women will say that they care very little about size. Still, it’s not true to say that women don’t contribute at all to penile insecurity.
I’ve seen some small surveys where American or English women were asked what size their ideal/most preferred penis would be, or asked to draw it. IIRC, the average stated preference was about 6.5″. I saw a small survey where women were asked to guess the length of an average real penis, and iirc their guess tended to be around 6. These are not “giant penises,” but they are bigger than most men. Again, these women take pains to emphasize that this is not a big deal, and there is nothing wrong with them for answering the question, but it still has to feed male insecurities at least a little.
I (shamefully) remember when the size of my own member actually mattered to me. Except I outgrew that in my freshmen year of high school, these guys are still stuck in middle school.
@Orion
I guess I mostly encounter guys who don’t know what they’re talking about, then 🙂
@Alan
Honestly… I’ve heard it had something to do with pederasty, and thus the image of an “ideal man” was similar to that of an “ideal woman”, (the most attractive from a male point of view) thus their genital would be reduced. I thought it was only a greek thing, since several ancient societies seemed to value large genitals, but then googling “pederasty” I found this: [added spaces to keep it from imbedding]
h t t p:// img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/ 5ea507dcc6a 9bfd86cbd28dd 37e2f019e6935 9b7_m .jpg
(pleasepleasepleasedon’timbed)
So I’m convinced it’s pederasty
There are several ways to pluralize “penis,” but “penii” is right out. That simply is not the actual Latin plural. You can treat it as an English word — “penises” — or you can use the Latin plural, which is “penes.”
Orion, you’re right – my joke got away from me a bit there, but I was basically trying to illustrate the absurdity of accusing women of being specifically bad at understanding dick size. As if length estimation by sight without reference was super easy in general, but dicks are somehow extra mystifying to women.
But then I got distracted by the mental image of cloaked genitals and forgot to proof-read.
BTW, the link I posted lead to a drawing of two men about to have anal intercourse, and dicks are depicted. Just so everyone knows.