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“Women REALLY don’t understand dick size,” Red Pill dudes complain

Measuring things is hard.
Measuring things is hard.

Over on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit, the regulars have come up with a new thing to hate about women: their alleged ignorance about penis size.

One Red Piller by the name of rumham730 touched off a discussion on this important issue with a plaintive query: “Why the hell do so many girls think normal sized dicks are “small”?

Runham730 explains that he had just had a conversation with “this 18 yo bi girl at work” that left him fuming. After overhearing her say that “every guy I’ve been with was super small,” he asked

how small, and she responded with “idk like 5 or 6 inches.”

WHEN THE FUCK DID THE AVERAGE penis size become “super small”?

I have a 6 inch dick so yes this hurt my feelings a little bit even though this girl means nothing to me. …

It just pisses me off. The chick who said this has no tits at all, but yet if I made a comment about flat chested girls around her, you better believe I’d be considered an asshole. Yet girls can make snide remarks about “small” dicks all day long and no one bats an eye.

Well, except for the dudes who post angry rants about it online.

As it turns out, the alleged ignorance of women re dick size happens to be something of a sore point with the Ask the Red Pill regulars, many of whom have strong opinions on the matter.

StarDestinyGuy noted that

One girl I hooked up with said the last two boyfriends she had had 11″ dicks.

The odds of that are so small it’s practically 0.

They are ridiculously ignorant/oblivious on the topic of penis size.

IoSonCalaf seconded his notion:

Women really don’t understand dick size. Trust me. They have no idea what they’re talking about. Half the time they don’t even know what dress size they are

FrameWalker added

Yeah dude they don’t have any idea. Girls overestimated my size by three inches at times. I’m average. I think half inch variations feel like two inches to them.

Dude, I hate to break it to you, but those women weren’t confused or ignorant; they were being nice to you.

MightyTaint offered his own math:

Girls are dumb as hell when it comes to dick size. A guy with a 3″ will tell her it’s 5″ (just a little below average baby!). A 6″ guy will tell her it’s 8″. A 7″ guy will tell her it’s 10″.

If that girl thinks 5″ to 6″ is small, she is going to think a 7″ dick is really 10″. …

The only women who brag about fucking big dicks are whores.

InscrutablePUA delivered his verdict in the form of a numbered list:

1) They don’t know what the actual lengths and girths of the dicks they’ve had before were.

2) Level of dryness/expansion of the vagina affects how big a dick feels.

3) Girls are just lousy at estimating dick size because guys probably inflate their own dick sizes.

4) Remember that the bottom 50 perhaps 80% of men are invisible to women. If the top 20% of dick sizes are 7+ inches then that’s what they consider as ‘normal’.

Wait, what?

Since the men of the world don’t generally walk around with boners sticking out the front of their pants, how exactly can women even tell which men are in the top 20%, dick-size-wise?

MightyTaint offered a rather different assessment, arguing that a man’s alphaness matters more than his dick size.

If a guy really comes off as an alpha, she’ll convince herself his dick was twice as big as it was. It just has to be otherwise why is he so confidant? Typical rationalization.

Niczar went further, suggesting that

Dick size only matters if you’re ashamed of it. It’s always big enough when you’re making her choke on it.

Lovely.

Suck_My_Zarflog, meanwhile, reported that the gemlike hardness of his average-sized zarflog penis regularly fooled the ladies into thinking it was bugger than it really is.

My dick is average, 6.5 at most. However, I’m well known for having a huge dick because…my dick gets really hard, like really really hard. So when I’m fucking girls it feels more “intrusive” than some of the softer guys with 8″ that I’ve seen… Yes, I know this from experience 😉 Most bigger dicks can’t get as much blood into them and aren’t as hard.

awalt_cupcake raised the possibility that women today have developed an intricate dick-size-sharing network, ensuring that all women can learn in advance the penis size of any man they’re considering having sex with:

I dunno man girls lately keep tabs on guys with big dicks. How could they not? Snapchat, multi media texting to prove it, the immaturity of it all starting in highschool when Billy MonsterCockTM had sex with Sharon the captain of the cheerleading squad and she told all her friends who ended up telling the world.

But he’s come to terms with the size of his own penis:

In the end, it doesn’t matter. Unless you get surgery to make your soldier huge, you’re stuck with it. Make the foreplay and sex fun for you and it will be fun for her (unless she’s a slut) and move on with yourself.

Just remember: never get married.

Cyberdellic drew a rather different conclusion. As he sees it, his average-sized penis — “5.75 non bone pressed and 6.25 to6.5 bone pressed” — will never be enough to satisfy the shallow “hypergamous” women of the west:

we live in full hypergamy so women will literally drop the guy shes with at any moment if the next guy ‘ticks all the SAME boxes’ PLUS hes got a big dick…

this is why the words of Wu Tang ring true – lust em but never trust em

most women are evil cruel manipulative macheivellian creatures… its not entirely their fault either, media and other guys make small dick jokes constantly

ive been living MGTOW the past 6 weeks and every aspect of my life is greatly improved except im not getting laid….

so to answer your question

with the advent of tinder and women being able to get pummeled by a new dick in 30 min (24/7) women have seen a lot of dicks and want to get that ‘stretched out’ feeling that is a mix of pleasure AND pain

they like that

ill never be able to go deep or stretch them out like the other men theyve been with

the ONLY workable strategy ive come up with is to move to asia, eclusively approach tiny petite 19 yr olds whove never had foreign dick before and im trying to find a tight hole

Dude, stop worrying about your dick. Your dick is fine. It’s the person attached to your dick that’s the problem.

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EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

@Cerberus:
That’s a very insightful analysis, thank you.

Chaos-Engineer
Chaos-Engineer
8 years ago

This reminds me of a joke from my childhood. The historical context is that Leonid Brezhnev, Premier of the Soviet Union (sigh, I’m old) has started opening up relationships with the West.

Some of his advisers are trying to think up ways to get advantageous trade deals. One of them says, “We need to think of a way to demoralize the Westerners, so that they won’t have the spirit to negotiate very hard.” After some more discussion, they send off an order to the US for a million condoms, specifying that the condoms must be 12 inches long.

A few months later, the shipment arrives, with each condom in a packet labelled, “1 Latex Condom, Extra-Small” above the US Army logo.

Runham730 explains that he had just had a conversation with “this 18 yo bi girl at work” that left him fuming. After overhearing her say that “every guy I’ve been with was super small,” he asked

If she’s bi, maybe she’s trying to demoralize him so that he won’t have the spirit to compete against her for other women.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

The lies really do get ridiculous, though. Like, I once knew a guy with a for-reals 9.5″ and he still told everyone it was an even 10. At that point, why?

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 years ago

I agree with mcjuliek on that the MRA fantasize and roleplay as people who have a lot of sex, as a way to avoid their failures.

I however think some do actually have normal or even very active sex life. The expectancy from fiction is high enough that even someone very active sexually can see himself as inadequate.

raysa
raysa
8 years ago

I have never understood the anxiety that men feel over the size of their penis.

Any time I picked a male partner and had great sex, it was never about dick size. Whenever I had not-so-great sex, again, never about dick size.

Anytime a guy has shown me insecurity about size, my reply has always been that their dick needs to be big enough to make THEM feel good.

A good partner with a dick knows that the actual PIV part of things is great, but it’s just a part of an entire experience.

Silky
8 years ago

Absurd in the extreme. A vaginal can stretch to accommodate an infant’s shoulders. Clearly they stretch a whole heck of a lot more than the largest human penis can possibly muster. As such, it should be obvious that size is pretty low on the totem pole (hehe see what I did there?) It’s all about good foreplay and hitting clitoris and/or g-spot , although these I’d just probably think those were invented by Kaytee in 1973 just to thwart men. *grumble*

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Oh my God dudes, nobody cares about the size of your schlong except you. The number of dudes who have proudly proclaimed their penis lengths to me… like, seriously, you are the only person who gives a damn. My only thought about penis size is that I have pelvic floor tightness, which means PIV might be uncomfortable or painful with someone who has a larger penis if we don’t make arrangements. This only matters to me if we’re actually having sex. If we’re not sleeping together, I am not thinking about your dick and how large it is as compared to other dicks. No1curr.

Make the foreplay and sex fun for you and it will be fun for her (unless she’s a slut) and move on with yourself.

That’s right fellas! Do whatever feels good for you during sex, and she should be content. If she wants you to be less selfish in bed, that means she’s a dirty dirty slut. /s

raysa
raysa
8 years ago

RoscoeTcat:

I was in a discussion thread a while back about men with micropeniss. Micropeni? Not sure of the plural.

There were quite a few women posting, saying that they had been with dudes like this, and all of them raved. They said it was great because the guys were a lot more creative than your typical guy. Some just had sexual experiences and a few had relationships, none of which ended over penis size.

thedxman
8 years ago

To be fair, conversations about penises and theories about penis sizes are fun for everyone (as long as you don’t take ’em too seriously).

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

@Chaos-Engineer:
I suspect that mentioning her bisexuality, like mentioning that she’s a teenager, is simply meant to make her more of a status symbol and therefore raise his status compared to the other MRAs.

For all their talk of male solidarity there’s no solidarity here, just people telling every-more-ridiculous lies in an attempt to one-up one another. It’s as zero-sum as it comes.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 years ago

They are ridiculously ignorant/oblivious on the topic of penis size.

This, in a subreddiit that thinks sex and obesity permanently loosen the vagina, that regularly confuses vaginas with vulvas and labia, that couldn’t accurately estimate a healthy weight for a woman if their life depended on it, that just the other day was earnestly trying to figure out why women use more toilet paper than men. The Redpill subreddit alone is responsible for a sizable chunk of r/badanatomy (Roosh is another major contributor).

To these guys, penises are awesomely godlike, therefore everyone on the planet should memorize the specs and the user manual, while women’s equipment is annoying and gross and vaguely scary and the less said about it, the better. If you know too much about female anatomy, you risk becoming a mangina.

ikanreed
ikanreed
8 years ago

@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs

The insecurity that is inculcated(and as taboo as it is, I do think it’s psychosocial) into men about it means that there is no reassurance that is enough. You’re expected to be constantly ready to prove you’re better than all other guys.

freemage
freemage
8 years ago

Y’know, it’s been a long time since I watched South Park, and even longer since I watched it regularly, but I can’t help but think of the Penis Measurement Riot episode when I’m reading this post.

AnAndrejaPejicBlog (@A_Pejic_Blog)

Make the foreplay and sex fun for you and it will be fun for her (unless she’s a slut)

So, if a woman isn’t thrilled by getting motor-boated and then receiving a minute and a half of clumsy thrusting, it’s not the the man is a bad lay–it’s because she’s a sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.

women have seen a lot of dicks and want to get that ‘stretched out’ feeling that is a mix of pleasure AND pain

Yes, I’m sure there are women into that, Cyberdellic, just like there are men who like that sort of thing anally. I know this may be hard for you to grasp, but some women liking a thing does not mean that all women like the thing. Martha Stewart’s love of making her own centerpieces doesn’t mean I really, really want to arrange pinecones artfully in a wooden bowl.

All of the guys quoted in the article seem to think that women don’t actually look at their lovers’ penises. What the hell kind of sexual experiences have they been having?

As for personal experience with penis size discussion, I remember that happening a bit when my friends started having sex in high school. It was all new, and those of us who hadn’t started yet were curious. Out in the post-high school world, it just doesn’t come up, except for that one annoying relative who gets drunk and talks about all her ex-boyfriends in far too much detail.

DL
DL
8 years ago

I’m intrigued by the fact they discuss girth when referring to vaginal stimulation, but none of them offered any numbers about it even though they were sharing the assumed lengths.

If you can make the connection that width usually means more than length unless we’re talking about pure aesthetics, you probably should question why you care about the one-dimensional size in the first place if you’re such an alpha meme

badgersdaughter
badgersdaughter
8 years ago

Mister Titanium Dick probably has a case of high blood pressure that will lead to problems quite soon. Incidentally, the person I’ve been with who had the hardest cock was the first ever serious relationship I ever had, and so far from being some ultra-masculine stud, she opted to transition later in life after she figured some things out about herself. Not that we weren’t a couple of innocent kids having a ton of fun. 🙂

Also, the man with the smallest cock I ever slept with was just a little weedy guy, and the idiot believed that I was just pretending to like sex because his cock was too small to matter. Newsflash, it wasn’t the size of the Eiffel Tower, but neither was it meager. Would you believe that bastard broke up with me partly because he thought I was faking it? I laugh now.

Snow Leopard
Snow Leopard
8 years ago

Maybe the red pillers were talking about their own heads this entire time. It’s really hard to tell with them, with them being dickheads and all.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 years ago

Whoops, that should have been r/badwomensanatomy, above. Don’t even get me started on their idiotic beliefs about hymens vs. virginity, long hair/age vs. fertility, or any of the other supposedly foolproof markers available to the discerning broodmare shopper.

It’s funny how they assume women are equally as crass and reductive as they are about body parts. Where is this secret Global Penis Registry that allows us to know who the top 20% of men are? And why would we even care? We’re not as infatuated with numbers and measurements as they are. It’s more about what you do with it.

Professor fate
Professor fate
8 years ago

“ive been living MGTOW the past 6 weeks and every aspect of my life is greatly improved except im not getting laid….”
as noted before this is amazing. I would suggest to the writer of this that whizzing sound you heard as you were typing these words was the point flying past your head.

LG.
LG.
8 years ago

Vaginas come in different sizes, too. Nobody ever seems to remember that. It has an impact on preferences.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
8 years ago

As people have pointed out, these guys seem to know that girth is relevant, but they never measure it. In fact, when trying to convince women to have sex with them, men mostly talk about the supposed lenght of their penes (sometimes they will brag unconvincingly about cunnilingus skills, but i digress), but they never talk about girth, or how they don’t need a map and a compass to find a g-spot, or how they, Idunno, will listen to their partner’s preferences and have the skill to perform accordingly?

They really don’t care about how good they are at sex, because the real determining factor to their masculinity apparently is the lenght of their pee-sticks.

Sunny Burn
8 years ago

Never ever trust a man who assumes ALL women like sex that is painful.

NicolaLuna
NicolaLuna
8 years ago

When I was 18, I dated a guy who had a 10.5″ penis and it was not fun. At all. In the 6 weeks that we dated we only had sex twice and the second time we had to stop half way through because I was bleeding and in pain. He had the same problem with most women he dated. And other men in our friendship group were openly jealous of him. Like, his penis was so big that it negatively affected his sex life and yet they were jealous. So yeah, this whole dick measuring contest is about impressing other men, not women.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

I think there are some classicists on this site so no doubt they could explain about how in the ancient world big dicks were considered vulgar and barbaric. Hence all the statues portraying the ideal male physique having the small ‘gentlemens area’.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
8 years ago

@Alan

Well, there’s a long tradition of Japanese woodcut prints depicting some rather massive (and really, really thick) ‘gentlemens areas,’ but the exaggeration is both obvious and intentional, and at least partly for humorous effect.