Over on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit, the regulars have come up with a new thing to hate about women: their alleged ignorance about penis size.
One Red Piller by the name of rumham730 touched off a discussion on this important issue with a plaintive query: “Why the hell do so many girls think normal sized dicks are “small”?”
Runham730 explains that he had just had a conversation with “this 18 yo bi girl at work” that left him fuming. After overhearing her say that “every guy I’ve been with was super small,” he asked
how small, and she responded with “idk like 5 or 6 inches.”
WHEN THE FUCK DID THE AVERAGE penis size become “super small”?
I have a 6 inch dick so yes this hurt my feelings a little bit even though this girl means nothing to me. …
It just pisses me off. The chick who said this has no tits at all, but yet if I made a comment about flat chested girls around her, you better believe I’d be considered an asshole. Yet girls can make snide remarks about “small” dicks all day long and no one bats an eye.
Well, except for the dudes who post angry rants about it online.
As it turns out, the alleged ignorance of women re dick size happens to be something of a sore point with the Ask the Red Pill regulars, many of whom have strong opinions on the matter.
StarDestinyGuy noted that
One girl I hooked up with said the last two boyfriends she had had 11″ dicks.
The odds of that are so small it’s practically 0.
They are ridiculously ignorant/oblivious on the topic of penis size.
IoSonCalaf seconded his notion:
Women really don’t understand dick size. Trust me. They have no idea what they’re talking about. Half the time they don’t even know what dress size they are
FrameWalker added
Yeah dude they don’t have any idea. Girls overestimated my size by three inches at times. I’m average. I think half inch variations feel like two inches to them.
Dude, I hate to break it to you, but those women weren’t confused or ignorant; they were being nice to you.
MightyTaint offered his own math:
Girls are dumb as hell when it comes to dick size. A guy with a 3″ will tell her it’s 5″ (just a little below average baby!). A 6″ guy will tell her it’s 8″. A 7″ guy will tell her it’s 10″.
If that girl thinks 5″ to 6″ is small, she is going to think a 7″ dick is really 10″. …
The only women who brag about fucking big dicks are whores.
InscrutablePUA delivered his verdict in the form of a numbered list:
1) They don’t know what the actual lengths and girths of the dicks they’ve had before were.
2) Level of dryness/expansion of the vagina affects how big a dick feels.
3) Girls are just lousy at estimating dick size because guys probably inflate their own dick sizes.
4) Remember that the bottom 50 perhaps 80% of men are invisible to women. If the top 20% of dick sizes are 7+ inches then that’s what they consider as ‘normal’.
Wait, what?
Since the men of the world don’t generally walk around with boners sticking out the front of their pants, how exactly can women even tell which men are in the top 20%, dick-size-wise?
MightyTaint offered a rather different assessment, arguing that a man’s alphaness matters more than his dick size.
If a guy really comes off as an alpha, she’ll convince herself his dick was twice as big as it was. It just has to be otherwise why is he so confidant? Typical rationalization.
Niczar went further, suggesting that
Dick size only matters if you’re ashamed of it. It’s always big enough when you’re making her choke on it.
Lovely.
Suck_My_Zarflog, meanwhile, reported that the gemlike hardness of his average-sized zarflog penis regularly fooled the ladies into thinking it was bugger than it really is.
My dick is average, 6.5 at most. However, I’m well known for having a huge dick because…my dick gets really hard, like really really hard. So when I’m fucking girls it feels more “intrusive” than some of the softer guys with 8″ that I’ve seen… Yes, I know this from experience 😉 Most bigger dicks can’t get as much blood into them and aren’t as hard.
awalt_cupcake raised the possibility that women today have developed an intricate dick-size-sharing network, ensuring that all women can learn in advance the penis size of any man they’re considering having sex with:
I dunno man girls lately keep tabs on guys with big dicks. How could they not? Snapchat, multi media texting to prove it, the immaturity of it all starting in highschool when Billy MonsterCockTM had sex with Sharon the captain of the cheerleading squad and she told all her friends who ended up telling the world.
But he’s come to terms with the size of his own penis:
In the end, it doesn’t matter. Unless you get surgery to make your soldier huge, you’re stuck with it. Make the foreplay and sex fun for you and it will be fun for her (unless she’s a slut) and move on with yourself.
Just remember: never get married.
Cyberdellic drew a rather different conclusion. As he sees it, his average-sized penis — “5.75 non bone pressed and 6.25 to6.5 bone pressed” — will never be enough to satisfy the shallow “hypergamous” women of the west:
we live in full hypergamy so women will literally drop the guy shes with at any moment if the next guy ‘ticks all the SAME boxes’ PLUS hes got a big dick…
this is why the words of Wu Tang ring true – lust em but never trust em
most women are evil cruel manipulative macheivellian creatures… its not entirely their fault either, media and other guys make small dick jokes constantly
ive been living MGTOW the past 6 weeks and every aspect of my life is greatly improved except im not getting laid….
so to answer your question
with the advent of tinder and women being able to get pummeled by a new dick in 30 min (24/7) women have seen a lot of dicks and want to get that ‘stretched out’ feeling that is a mix of pleasure AND pain
they like that
ill never be able to go deep or stretch them out like the other men theyve been with
the ONLY workable strategy ive come up with is to move to asia, eclusively approach tiny petite 19 yr olds whove never had foreign dick before and im trying to find a tight hole
Dude, stop worrying about your dick. Your dick is fine. It’s the person attached to your dick that’s the problem.
@Newt:
That’s how Britain gets its prime ministers.
When Britain’s Channel 4 hosted a ‘Banned’ season of films and television programmes that had fallen foul of censors at some point in their existence, they found one of their proposed items fell foul of their own censors – Jo Menell’s short film Dick, which consists of hundreds of screen-filling close-ups of flaccid penises, accompanied by exclusively female commentary.
Sadly, I couldn’t find it online either, but here’s an interview with its director, which includes a short clip. (NSFW, obviously.)
before Mrs. Autosoma lost a boobie to BC, she was a burlesque performer and she could do the both spin left, both spin right and then eash go in opposite directions, from paying close attention to get routines, I worked out how to do the same with me knob. So I tried a ribbon on it and tried to give her a laugh. Except I tried the knot for the bow a bit too tight (it kept on coming off in practise). The whole thing was partially ruined as Mrs Autosoma had to resort to using nail scissors to cut the ribbon off.
Another time I drew a smiley face on my bellend with a permanent marker… that wasn’t too bright as I discovered permanent marker’s not easy to remove. I had to use turpentine to get the bloody stuff off
I’m not sure how you come to the conclusion that “most” men respond this way. Obviously, you do, but I’m not sure why you think your reaction is representative of most men. I can honestly say that the few times I’ve seen huge penes, I haven’t had anything like that sort of reaction. Now, as a cis het male, my interest in other men’s penes is rather limited, but I also haven’t heard of any of my male friends reacting this way either.
Of course, penis length and our reactions to it isn’t exactly a topic of conversation among my circle of friends, so make of that what you will.
That’s not a saying I’m at all familiar with. Has anyone else ever heard that before?
Are you sure you didn’t just make that up, Walter? Because I googled that phrase, and literally the only hit I got was this thread.
…and just because (and with apologies to Sir Mix-a-Lot):
He likes big cocks and he cannot lie
Some other brothers may deny
but a dude walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a rolling-pin sized mace
He gets sprung
Wants ta pull up tough
’cause he noticed that dick was stuffed
Tight in the jeans dude’s wearing
He’s hooked and he can’t stop staring…
“Hell, when it gets to the part where men put on a penis-pastie with a tassel, and learn how to swing that around like a burlesque dancer with some tasseled nipple pasties, we’ll have finally gotten to the talent portion of this dominance competition and whichever contestant can do their swinging thing with gusto and mostly keeping a straight face is “the winn-AH”.
This has been decided by the Katie commission for Dick Performing Arts.”
There was an Australian duo a few years back called “Puppetry of the Penis: the Ancient Australian Art of Genital Origami”.
But they were going for flexibility, shock value and coarse badinage, rather than size.
A great night out though.
BTW to you all – what a wonderful thread!
@msexception @autosoma – While in college (the first time, pre-kid), one of my jobs was as a video store clerk.
As far as retail goes, it was a wonderful way to pass the time – free movies, sometimes engaging conversations, and diverse colleagues.
For most of the latter, it was a part-time gig on top of full-time+ employment. One guy was from Honduras (call him M), did yard work / construction, and loved Disney movies. Another (call him B) was a very flamboyantly gay man who mostly seemed to cover the local art scene and publish a few zines.
Against all odds, they really got along.
One day as I arrived, B had almost managed to talk M into going to a transvestite* show / pageant that was to take place in a courtyard outside of a gay strip club in DC.
“[mockingbird] can go with you! NO ONE will think you’re gay if she’s there. And I’ll pay for both of you.”
I had nothing to do that night, said I was down, and M agreed to go.
I won’t get into the show except to say that it was excellent and tasteful, a celebration rather than a sideshow, but the walk through the club to get there…
…I stopped and stood still for some reason, unaware of my surroundings. I looked over just in time to see M turn towards me, blanche, and make roughly this face:
????
He kept making that face for several beats and then I noticed some movement in my rear periphery.
Now, the performers were on slightly raised stages, so I turned to see a giant cock and balls** being vigorously swung in just that manner sans tassels or pasties.
I jumped back in surprise (they were seriously inches away) and looked up to see their very amused owner.
So, yes, I know of at least one likely contender for that competition.
*It was billed as a transvestite show at the time (late 90s), but there was a wide spectrum of performers including one person who was at least partially post-op and / or who had responded very well to hormone therapy.
**I’ve been told that DC doesn’t allow full nudity in strip clubs. It wasn’t being enforced, or maybe they threw socks on the guy as a clever work around.
I didn’t notice his feet.
*squints*
No, not late 90s. Early 2000s.
According to one of the Republicans who are currently vying for the party nomination for a run at presidency, there’s no shortage of rubber here in the U.S. – perhaps since we’ve got so much rubber around, some can be used to construct properly fitted penis pasties/hats with tassels that won’t need to be cut off with surgical scissors or deprive men of their male member modesty while they participate in the talent portion of the dominance competition!
A rule will be made so that competitors will be a safe distance from judges and the audience so as to not injure anyone with an accidental smack upside the head or an eye being poked out. Just not too much distance because the judges will need to see what the competitors are working with. (Don’t worry, there will be vision testing for judges similar to the ones people get for a driver’s license.)
Ugh must they always allude to violence when discussing sex? These words really stood out to me: “choking,” “intrusive,” and “pummeled.” I think what enthusiastically consenting adults do together in the bedroom really is their own business, however at least for me the idea of violence is not at all sexy.
@Buttercup
And that is a perfect example of why you’re my fav commenter. :p
Women are dumb for not being able to estimate the length of your dick to within half an inch. Right. Can we please list all the many things that these boys don’t know but should know about female anatomy? For example:
When I’m on my period and I’m in pain, it’s *not* because the walls of my vagina are bleeding and sore.
No, Cyberdellic, your dick, no matter how big it is, can’t “stretch out” a vagina. You can’t tell how many men a woman has had sex with based on the size of her vag.
NO, CYBERDELLIC, women are not into vagina pain. That’s not a fetish that any woman has (as far as I know?)
And finally, open a text book and learn the difference between a vagina and a vulva.
Extra Credit: The vagina and the urethra are not the same thing. You know that there’s a horrifyingly large number of adult men who don’t know that!
The artist who created The Great Wall of Vagina did at least have the decency to confess that he knew that it should properly be called The Great Wall of Vulva, but he didn’t want to lose the pun.
I could introduce you to a few dozen.
Orion – Ok, I take that one back. I kind of knew I was overstepping my knowledge while I was typing that one.
You know, I’d feared the age of great trolls was over; that we’d never again get someone as amusing and bizarre as Owly or even Steele. I dreaded the endless run of unoriginal C&P drive-bys, mangled typists and other dregs.
But hope has been restored. It is still possible to be both awful and hilarious, and to come up with an entirely new mode of trolling, thereby letting everyone else show off their comedic chops (to great effect, I might add). Thus, I would like to nominate Walter for 2015’s WHTM (formerly Manboobz) Troll of the Year award. Frankly, he’s hands-down the best troll we’ve had in ages.
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This entire thread has reminded me that in my state, a former (and now incarcerated) governor once bragged about his ‘testicular fortitude’, in an actual press conference. I’ve got to admit, as assessments of sexual prowess go, “fortitude” seems a better by-word than “size” (and certainly better than “length”, as many have commented). Also, the full phrase sounds like an RPG attribute, which makes my inner twelve-year-old giggle.
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BTW, Walter, in defending your worldview, you should also address a rather glaring issue:
A common racial (and racist) stereotype is that men of African derivation are hypersexualized, and have immense penes. This belief is actually more common among devout racists than the general population. Thus, if the world really worked the way you believed it to, the members of the KKK, Stormfront and similar hate-groups would be falling all over themselves and each other to prostrate themselves before black men, as they would assume that even a fully clothed African-American would have a massive tallywacker, sight unseen. BioTroof EvoPsyche forces would push them to their knees like penitent Catholics. How do you explain this discrepancy?
But you’re missing the point. Men think we need to take a tampon out so we can pee out our vaginas, but they’re putting us down for being unable to tell the difference between a 5 and a 6 inch dick!
Let me try that again.
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@freemage – “nce bragged about his ‘testicular fortitude’”
As far as I know, the phrase originated with Mick Foley in the WWE as a spoof of legendary commentator Gorilla Monsoon’s phrase “Intestinal fortitude” as an overly-complicated way to say “guts”. So “testicular fortitude” was an overly-complicated way to say, “balls”.
msexceptiontotherule
I have an alternative competition.
round up the contestants and take their inside leg measurement.
superglue a 500mm aluminium rod to their perineum. This rod is manufactured so that there is a hollow tip to hold a small sprit level.
Manufacture some step stands of various heights do that all contestants aluminium rods are exactly 1500mm off the ground.
Get a round table, that is 1495mm high (can you see where this is going).
Eash contestant stands on his personal step stool, at the table. Levelling the aluminium rod on the table, so there is no parallax distortion.
Now this is where its a bit complicated. The contestants are arranged in two groups those with foreskins and those without.
obviously here we can also have subcategories erect or flacid, I guess if a contestant who, when erect, foreskin retracts somewhat he may (at the discretion of Walter) be allowed to join the non foreskin group. I’m assuming that the unretracted foreskin may add additional millimetres.
So once they are all in position at the table, which has graduated, incised rings every 5mm.
The contestants whack their cocks onto the table and a tally is taken of the longest one.
Hence the word;
Tallywhacker.
It’s an ancient and glorious game, which originated in the outer Hebrides (islands off Scotland – look em up) and performed a fortnight after the winter solstice when it was cold and dark and every one was bored shitless and needed a laugh.
The great phallic bells
in the Church of Cock
go ‘Schlong, Schlong, Schlong’
The small, spheric bells
go ‘Ding-a-ling-a-ding’
But the greatest bell of all
resounds a thunderous
‘DONG DONG DONG DONG’
I’m also in favor of the nomination. Walter FTW! (Even though we’ve stablished that Moocow is superior to him)
Re: Walter being Troll of the Year:
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One more try:
Walter for Troll of the Year!!!
Autosoma — how do you measure for side curve? Or dicks that go up not out, to such degree that forcing it flat is painful? And don’t foreskins generally retract when their member is erecting? (This one I have limited experience with, Americans tend to be cut)