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“Women REALLY don’t understand dick size,” Red Pill dudes complain

Measuring things is hard.
Measuring things is hard.

Over on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit, the regulars have come up with a new thing to hate about women: their alleged ignorance about penis size.

One Red Piller by the name of rumham730 touched off a discussion on this important issue with a plaintive query: “Why the hell do so many girls think normal sized dicks are “small”?

Runham730 explains that he had just had a conversation with “this 18 yo bi girl at work” that left him fuming. After overhearing her say that “every guy I’ve been with was super small,” he asked

how small, and she responded with “idk like 5 or 6 inches.”

WHEN THE FUCK DID THE AVERAGE penis size become “super small”?

I have a 6 inch dick so yes this hurt my feelings a little bit even though this girl means nothing to me. …

It just pisses me off. The chick who said this has no tits at all, but yet if I made a comment about flat chested girls around her, you better believe I’d be considered an asshole. Yet girls can make snide remarks about “small” dicks all day long and no one bats an eye.

Well, except for the dudes who post angry rants about it online.

As it turns out, the alleged ignorance of women re dick size happens to be something of a sore point with the Ask the Red Pill regulars, many of whom have strong opinions on the matter.

StarDestinyGuy noted that

One girl I hooked up with said the last two boyfriends she had had 11″ dicks.

The odds of that are so small it’s practically 0.

They are ridiculously ignorant/oblivious on the topic of penis size.

IoSonCalaf seconded his notion:

Women really don’t understand dick size. Trust me. They have no idea what they’re talking about. Half the time they don’t even know what dress size they are

FrameWalker added

Yeah dude they don’t have any idea. Girls overestimated my size by three inches at times. I’m average. I think half inch variations feel like two inches to them.

Dude, I hate to break it to you, but those women weren’t confused or ignorant; they were being nice to you.

MightyTaint offered his own math:

Girls are dumb as hell when it comes to dick size. A guy with a 3″ will tell her it’s 5″ (just a little below average baby!). A 6″ guy will tell her it’s 8″. A 7″ guy will tell her it’s 10″.

If that girl thinks 5″ to 6″ is small, she is going to think a 7″ dick is really 10″. …

The only women who brag about fucking big dicks are whores.

InscrutablePUA delivered his verdict in the form of a numbered list:

1) They don’t know what the actual lengths and girths of the dicks they’ve had before were.

2) Level of dryness/expansion of the vagina affects how big a dick feels.

3) Girls are just lousy at estimating dick size because guys probably inflate their own dick sizes.

4) Remember that the bottom 50 perhaps 80% of men are invisible to women. If the top 20% of dick sizes are 7+ inches then that’s what they consider as ‘normal’.

Wait, what?

Since the men of the world don’t generally walk around with boners sticking out the front of their pants, how exactly can women even tell which men are in the top 20%, dick-size-wise?

MightyTaint offered a rather different assessment, arguing that a man’s alphaness matters more than his dick size.

If a guy really comes off as an alpha, she’ll convince herself his dick was twice as big as it was. It just has to be otherwise why is he so confidant? Typical rationalization.

Niczar went further, suggesting that

Dick size only matters if you’re ashamed of it. It’s always big enough when you’re making her choke on it.

Lovely.

Suck_My_Zarflog, meanwhile, reported that the gemlike hardness of his average-sized zarflog penis regularly fooled the ladies into thinking it was bugger than it really is.

My dick is average, 6.5 at most. However, I’m well known for having a huge dick because…my dick gets really hard, like really really hard. So when I’m fucking girls it feels more “intrusive” than some of the softer guys with 8″ that I’ve seen… Yes, I know this from experience 😉 Most bigger dicks can’t get as much blood into them and aren’t as hard.

awalt_cupcake raised the possibility that women today have developed an intricate dick-size-sharing network, ensuring that all women can learn in advance the penis size of any man they’re considering having sex with:

I dunno man girls lately keep tabs on guys with big dicks. How could they not? Snapchat, multi media texting to prove it, the immaturity of it all starting in highschool when Billy MonsterCockTM had sex with Sharon the captain of the cheerleading squad and she told all her friends who ended up telling the world.

But he’s come to terms with the size of his own penis:

In the end, it doesn’t matter. Unless you get surgery to make your soldier huge, you’re stuck with it. Make the foreplay and sex fun for you and it will be fun for her (unless she’s a slut) and move on with yourself.

Just remember: never get married.

Cyberdellic drew a rather different conclusion. As he sees it, his average-sized penis — “5.75 non bone pressed and 6.25 to6.5 bone pressed” — will never be enough to satisfy the shallow “hypergamous” women of the west:

we live in full hypergamy so women will literally drop the guy shes with at any moment if the next guy ‘ticks all the SAME boxes’ PLUS hes got a big dick…

this is why the words of Wu Tang ring true – lust em but never trust em

most women are evil cruel manipulative macheivellian creatures… its not entirely their fault either, media and other guys make small dick jokes constantly

ive been living MGTOW the past 6 weeks and every aspect of my life is greatly improved except im not getting laid….

so to answer your question

with the advent of tinder and women being able to get pummeled by a new dick in 30 min (24/7) women have seen a lot of dicks and want to get that ‘stretched out’ feeling that is a mix of pleasure AND pain

they like that

ill never be able to go deep or stretch them out like the other men theyve been with

the ONLY workable strategy ive come up with is to move to asia, eclusively approach tiny petite 19 yr olds whove never had foreign dick before and im trying to find a tight hole

Dude, stop worrying about your dick. Your dick is fine. It’s the person attached to your dick that’s the problem.

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Walter
Walter
9 years ago

Anarchonist

I will take you at your word that you don’t feel anything when you see a penis much bigger than yours. If that’s your experience, then I believe it. But, i don’t think that’s the experience of most men. I think most men, when presented with a giant ding-a-ling, assuming it’s bigger than their ding-a-ling, will find their whole self-image shattered and their view of themselves totally changed. It’s like the saying, if it’s a giant cock, you’ll be in shock. That saying has been around for decades, hell maybe even hundreds of years for all I know, and it’s stuck around because it shows some ancient wisdom. Being confronted with a giant phallus is a mind altering experience.

Now, I admit that there aren’t many chances to see naked cocks in our everyday lives, so the usefulness of using cock size as a sorting method is limited but this is easily fixed by having men display their dicks like some women display their breasts. We could make it so that all clothes are very tight, so as to emphasize the crotch bulge and in warm climates men could walk around with their penises hanging out. Now, to keep things from being obscene and to protect the modesty of the men, men would have to wear some kind hat/helmet over the head of the penis, but the shaft would become the new male cleavage.

That’s just one way things could change to make cock size even more valuable.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
9 years ago

Now, in my experience men with smaller dicks submit to men with bigger dicks. I think on a psychological level men know that a big dick is more manly.

This sounds like a bunch of fan fics I’ve read over the years, although that’s not how many relationships actually work.

It’s like the saying, if it’s a giant cock, you’ll be in shock. That saying has been around for decades, hell maybe even hundreds of years for all I know, and it’s stuck around because it shows some ancient wisdom. Being confronted with a giant phallus is a mind altering experience.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/so-cute.gif

That is precious. Hundreds of years, yes, of course it would be.

Now, I admit that there aren’t many chances to see naked cocks in our everyday lives, so the usefulness of using cock size as a sorting method is limited but this is easily fixed by having men display their dicks like some women display their breasts. We could make it so that all clothes are very tight, so as to emphasize the crotch bulge and in warm climates men could walk around with their penises hanging out. Now, to keep things from being obscene and to protect the modesty of the men, men would have to wear some kind hat/helmet over the head of the penis, but the shaft would become the new male cleavage.

That’s just one way things could change to make cock size even more valuable.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/interesting.gif

I think Walter just like big dicks. I’m okay with this. It’s gonna suck when skinny jeans are no longer a thing but those 70s style gym shorts are coming back. What an exciting time for people who like big dicks! (Eh, Paradoxy, eh?) I’m more of a booty and hip person myself but, hey, you do you. You do you.

estraven
estraven
9 years ago

OK, Walter is totally putting us on, right?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
9 years ago

@estraven

Pretty sure. It’s really cute. What an adorable little troll! Better than most we get here. Of course, it’s 4:30 in the morning and I’m still pumped from drinking all that soda and listening to PSY so my judgement might be impaired.

occasional reader
occasional reader
9 years ago

autosoma | December 2, 2015 at 4:57 am
doesn’t ‘gens Italia’ mean Italian people?

Well, it should be “gente d’al Italia” in Italian, or “Gens de l’Italie” in French, actually, but as those two languages are close, your pun still apply i think 🙂
So, as you say, as Rocco S. is also a gen-italia, of course, if they compare their to his, they are likely not going to “win”…

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

That saying has been around for decades, hell maybe even hundreds of years for all I know

Geant cocke is icumen in
Lhude bragge Walter
Now groweth growers, and showeth showers
And the wude springeth from its halter

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

so the usefulness of using cock size as a sorting method is limited

Nonsense. You just need to apply some good data science to it.

SELECT

name
, first_name
, rugby_team_supported
, penis_length
, nullifzero(count(sexual_partners))
, sum(lifetime_earnings)

FROM

world_population_daily

WHERE

gender = male
and age >= 18
and calendar_date = date-1

GROUP BY 1,2,3,4
ORDER BY 4

dhag85
dhag85
9 years ago

in my experience men with smaller dicks submit to men with bigger dicks

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

Wetherby
Wetherby
9 years ago

I will take you at your word that you don’t feel anything when you see a penis much bigger than yours. If that’s your experience, then I believe it. But, i don’t think that’s the experience of most men. I think most men, when presented with a giant ding-a-ling, assuming it’s bigger than their ding-a-ling, will find their whole self-image shattered and their view of themselves totally changed. It’s like the saying, if it’s a giant cock, you’ll be in shock. That saying has been around for decades, hell maybe even hundreds of years for all I know, and it’s stuck around because it shows some ancient wisdom. Being confronted with a giant phallus is a mind altering experience.

That rather depends upon the mind in question. My mind certainly isn’t altered when I’m confronted with a giant phallus, any more than it’s altered when I see someone who’s abnormally tall. And because of anecdata from various girlfriends (replicated by anecdata in this very thread, and elsewhere), I know that having a really colossal penis can be a significant practical drawback. You have only to watch a film with someone like John Holmes to see the problem – I remember he had to use his fist to prevent it going all the way into his partner, presumably because she couldn’t physically accommodate him. Why on earth would I be jealous of that? Why would anybody?

Now, I admit that there aren’t many chances to see naked cocks in our everyday lives, so the usefulness of using cock size as a sorting method is limited but this is easily fixed by having men display their dicks like some women display their breasts. We could make it so that all clothes are very tight, so as to emphasize the crotch bulge and in warm climates men could walk around with their penises hanging out. Now, to keep things from being obscene and to protect the modesty of the men, men would have to wear some kind hat/helmet over the head of the penis, but the shaft would become the new male cleavage.

But that wouldn’t work, for the reasons I gave above – namely, that penis size when flaccid offers very little indication of what it’s like when erect. Then again, there’s nothing to stop you wearing insanely tight trousers in order to emphasise the bulge. Knock yourself out.

That’s just one way things could change to make cock size even more valuable.

Valuable to whom? I genuinely couldn’t care less how big someone’s cock is. My sexual orientation has been pretty well established for several decades now, and I can’t see this changing any time soon – and if I’m not actually going to have sex with this person, why on earth does it make even the tiniest bit of difference to me?

Spindrift
Spindrift
9 years ago

Masculinity is all about penis size? When did we stop measuring wrist circumference?

Orion
Orion
9 years ago

The piece in question was Gucci Gucci by Kreayshawn, an otherwise forgettable piece of by-the-numbers luxury rap in which the rapper boasts about having large amounts of money with which to purchase large amounts of valuable designer goods.

This sentence is kinda ambiguous, so to clarify for the crowd: she boasts about having enough money to buy designer goods if she wished to, but doesn’t do so, because “the basic bitches buy that shit so I don’t even bother.”

Not just one community, but various. Think about that people.

FetLife, r/penis, tumblr…I mean, logically, if we considered sex mainly a pleasant activity, wouldn’t it make more sense to brag about your ability and willingness to please your partner?It’s got very little to do with being good at sex, and everything to do with being desirable sexually. People are aroused by all kinds of body parts — breasts, eyes, shoulders, etc., — that have no bearing on actual sexual ability. They just like looking at those parts, and associate them, often unconsciously, with certain archetypes. Sometimes those parts are genitals. Lots of guys are “dick men” in the same way others are “leg men” or “breast men” or “ass men.” As for how “superiority” comes in, it’s again not really about the utility of the body part; it’s the BioTruth assumption that a man with a big dick must have a high level of testosterone which will also have imbued him with aggression, strength, dominance, confidence, or whatever other “masculine virtues” the cock-watcher finds appealing.

Orion
Orion
9 years ago

I mangled my tags. “fetlife, r/penis, tumblr..” is the end of one reply.

“I mean, logically, if we considered sex mainly a pleasant activity…” was meant to be the start of a new blockquote.

“It’s got very little to do with being good at sex” was supposed to be the start of my reply to that quote.

autosoma
9 years ago
Reply to  Walter

Walt, you cheeky little chappie are you alluding to the TOWIE in Marbella piece in last years Telegraph
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02939/Towie-pants_2939426e.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10894876/Spornosexuality-If-this-is-what-spornosexual-means-then-god-help-us-all.html

I tried to get into your mindset about an hour or so ago… I’d popped into McDonald’s to use the toilet for a widdle and I thought… why not give Walt’s philosophy a try.

Well, I walked out of MaccyD’s, looked around to see if I could scope any fella’s pants bulge to see if I felt superior or inferior….

AND

nuffink. I lost interest in your philosophy, it evaporated from my head totally. I really can’t see how it has a real world practical dimension and how it could be applicable in day to day life.

I just wonder if your confusing superiority with intimidation. They are very different things

GhostBird
GhostBird
9 years ago

‘if its a giant cock, you’ll be in shock.’
I pretty much lost it right about here, and now must ascend to space and retrieve my sides, which are stuck in lower earth orbit. That and the use of ‘dingaling’ as a penis euphemism.

That being said, I’m really leaning towards the aforementioned idea that this guy has some sort of fetish for this kind of thinking. The phrasing just smacks too much of it to be ignored. And I’m still curious how strapons fit into the worldview, or, yknow, trans people. And finally, has he never heard of codpieces with regard to his ‘male cleavage’ idea? The idea has already been tried, dear.

HB
HB
9 years ago

Oh my goodness, I’ve just realised what this is about. Pigtows think this is real life. SO much makes (a tiny bit) more sense now.

autosoma
9 years ago

comedy trolling is marvellous, firstly I’d like to thank David for opening this up to debate and secondly for all the trolls who have produced some wonderful material, I’d like to have first dibs on licencing this material under creative commons if ever I have a one man show at The Edinburgh Fringe.

I started participating in team sports 40+ years ago, then I was in barracks while in the army, on buying out, I continues with team sports, triathlons, rowing, and a few others, Every single changing room or gym had open plan wet room showers.

At no point did I notice any cock superiority going on.

I wonder if you can have a mental image of your own cock superiority, compared to the actual , now that presents a fascinating conundrum.

Newt
Newt
9 years ago

Walter is thinking of a hazing ritual carried out in certain elite boarding schools: Each participant is tied to a chair with their trousers down, then a ravenous owl is released. Hence, pecking order.

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
9 years ago

“Why the hell do so many girls think normal sized dicks are “small”?”

The same reason so many men think normal sized women are “fat.”

Wetherby
Wetherby
9 years ago

“Why the hell do so many girls think normal sized dicks are “small”?”

The same reason so many men think normal sized women are “fat.”

Rarely were truer words spoken.

mockingbird
mockingbird
9 years ago

That saying has been around for decades, hell maybe even hundreds of years for all I know

Geant cocke is icumen in
Lhude bragge Walter
Now groweth growers, and showeth showers
And the wude springeth from its halter

This is beautiful and I love it.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
9 years ago

I love everything about this thread.

AnAndrejaPejicBlog (@A_Pejic_Blog)

‘If its a giant cock, you’ll be in shock.’ That’s what my grammy used to say when she served us a chicken dinner.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
9 years ago

it’s my understanding that it’s difficult to pee when fully erect

It is, especially if you need to aim for the toilet bowl.

Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

@ Arctic Ape

Oh gawd isn’t it just? Also the natural ‘corkscrew’ effect (boy’s bits are essentially rifled, isn’t evolution amazing?) is negated, hence the wild spraying.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
9 years ago

Hell, when it gets to the part where men put on a penis-pastie with a tassel, and learn how to swing that around like a burlesque dancer with some tasseled nipple pasties, we’ll have finally gotten to the talent portion of this dominance competition and whichever contestant can do their swinging thing with gusto and mostly keeping a straight face is “the winn-AH”.

This has been decided by the Katie commission for Dick Performing Arts. 😉

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