His New Pickup Technique is Unstoppable

Orion & Anisky:
You’re both probably right. I’m not trying to claim my (slight) envy of those that live this way is rational; it surely isn’t. Just saying there’s this part of me that hears these stories and goes “Damn you, fuckers, if I had the nerve necessary to say stuff to complete strangers, I’d use it a lot better than you assholes do!”

@SFHC

The common wisdom is that you can’t tame a feral. The common wisdom is wrong.

Sorry to hear about your mom’s ginger 🙁 But isn’t it funny how the universe sends cats to people who need them?

@Brian

I’ve never liked the idea of approaching women out of the blue based on attraction. How do you relate to someone without first knowing who they are, what they do for a living, their interests etc.? Maybe this behaviour is acceptable in certain situations but I find it sleazy nonetheless and the men (and women) who do it lacking in awareness of normal social boundaries.

Going to suggest that your inhibitions are actually correct, rather then being the result of an excessive fear of rejection.

Hello.

Yes, as heinzd42 said it, it is the shotgun “technic”. It is seldom effective, but sadly, it sometimes works, and that is one reason it is still used, especially when the mind of the “wanted partner” may be blunted (alcohol and the like).
Another reason that is advanced is that it may be effective when the “wanted partner” looks only for casual sex (in the way you say straight about the sex). But nothing is said about the language to use.
So i guess he tried to mix with other PUA “technics” like negs, bluntness and foul language.

On another point, the answer of the woman is amazing quiet, and that is great ! It is not easy to stay calm in this kind of “(one-way) discussion” and not to answer with kind of injurious sentences. She overcomes him on all the points.

Have a nice day.

EJ, I love math and I love comedy. I would like to see your work.

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Brian, I get why you are scared to talk to women. Women are people, and a large subset of people are either not nice, or nice but confusing. However, there *are* women in your neurotribe. We also find it difficult to interact with people often.

We tend to wear clothing for comfort and don’t dress up as much as other women do. We do like to sometimes have cosplay items in our regular clothing, or nerdy t shirts. We don’t want to be hit on by strange men, but we DO love to talk about our fandoms or interests just as much as any other person on the spectrum does.

So try talking. Not flirting. Just if you have the same interest, say something about it. “Star Wars shirt… I’m really looking forward to the next movie. Would you be a Jedi, or a Sith, or something else?”

We tend to wear clothing for comfort and don’t dress up as much as other women do. We do like to sometimes have cosplay items in our regular clothing, or nerdy t shirts. We don’t want to be hit on by strange men, but we DO love to talk about our fandoms or interests just as much as any other person on the spectrum does.

*looks down at the Companion Cube t-shirt I’m wearing* MYTH CONFIRMED. =P

Silliness aside, this is how I’ve met most of my friends and all of my long-term partners, so I’d say it’s solid advice. With one addition: Focus on friendship, don’t feign it. Feigning friendship when you’re only really interested in sex is when it falls into creepy territory.

I love the straightwhiteboystexting page. They used to have a Facebook page but now it’s called something like texting nightmares.

I’ve submitted a few entries to there. One that they didn’t repost but which was one of my most “wtf” moments was a guy who I’d been messaging but fell asleep before I replied to one of his messages. When I woke up it was to about 20 messages getting increasingly abusive, saying that as I have fake boobs I probably have a fake pu**y too and that I was probably out with another guy and that I’m a whore and stuff. I said to him that I’d fallen asleep and he replied with “I was just joking about all that stuff last night.”

As I’m sure you can imagine, I decided not to contact him again. About 3 weeks later he messaged me asking me to meet him. I said no thank you. He completely freaked out at me and said it’s because I’m racist. I replied that it’s because he’s a creepy asshole and reminded him of his outburst at me when I’d fallen asleep. He doubled down on calling me racist. I blocked him.

I also have a folder on my phone of screenshots of opening messages from men which always either reference their penis, my breasts or both. One particular shitty one was a guy saying he was going to rape me. I sent him a pic of a hot dog slicer and blocked him.

@ Weirdwoodtreehugger – holy moly those cartoons! I imagine my 10 year old mother and 13 year old father watching in cinemas somewhere in England when they first came out and it’s hard to picture it.

Some of the early Betty Boop ones were full of stoner and death imagery, especially the ones with Cab Calloway. The Tom and Jerry one (which I can’t see as it’s been removed for copyright reasons) seems from the summary to be more about alcoholism.

@ Buttercup Q. Skullpants – put me down for a first edition copy of your dorky detective novel!

Contrapangloss, good on your parents for trying to help kitties. If they absolutely won’t come in I know there are fairly cheap weather proof cat homes people can make, I’d Google em but I’m on my phone. My find goes all around the inner city and feeds /builds homes for feral cats every morning at 5am. I know she uses those big plastic totes and hay for many of the homes. Anyway, I hope it works out. Any animal or human for that matter out in the cold is so heartbreaking.

The weird thing is when the hostility is right there in with the lust before there’s even been a rejection. Before the lucky, lucky recipient has even seen the message, most like.

I thought this was just their basic strategy – lead with a ‘neg’, insult her, insist she have the conversation on your terms, prove that you don’t care whether she’s into you or not, command her to submit to your mighty peen… All PUAs seem to deliver the same advice – be “dominant”, i.e. an asshole, and that will make you suuuper manly and desirable to wimminz, because science.

In practice, it’s more like some kind of pre-emptive defense mechanism for creating a 100% chance that she will respond with hostility, and then framing her as a b*tch for acting like a human being and not immediately kowtowing to your alpha manliness.

I have never seen anyone respond positively to any such overt jerkwaddery, in fact, I bet even a 100% failure rate would not be enough to make these buttheads think about a change in tactics, because according to “some guy” (like Roosh, or Hartiste, or some boastful randomer on Reddit), it totally works and they are all getting laid, like allll the time.

They do use a scatter-approach, but unlike online scams, it’s not the targets that are gullible for falling for it (I doubt even the most insecure woman would accept such a crappy approach) – it’s the fools who don’t know how to talk to women but are willing to accept such obviously terrible advice from PUAs, and then stick at it long after it should be obvious that women are just people who want to know if you’ve got any cool hobbies.

Even when they know they’ve been screen-capped and subjected to online mockery, they seem to insist on clinging to their toxic personalities. That’s what I find the most weird – the stubborn unwillingness to even privately admit that they’re wrong.

I agree with WWTH that it is often about controlling and abusing girls/ women, not about any actual sex quest. From about 12 – 18 I was often approached by men 40+ for sex, sometimes paid, less often not. Did these men REALLY think that I would be likely to have sex with them? Unlikely – it seems much more likely that they enjoyed humiliating and making their targets fearful.

@ various people above who ask why why why would a guy shout abuse at you after you’ve rejected him/said thanks but no thanks?

Some of you argue that it’s because these guys hate women, or don’t want us to have agency etc. However, and I mean this in the kindest possible way, this.is.not.about.you. (or women)

These guys

a) want to ‘score’ with HBs to impress OTHER MEN so they can finally sit with the jocks. So you’re not a person to them, either to love or to loathe, but just a means to an end that you’re not even included in. It’s about THEM and THEIR egos

b) They get aggressive and weird because of the PAIN of rejection, and the HUMILIATION of losing face in front of other men. And becaus anger feels more powerful than sadness or pain or humiliation, they act out. It’s like kicking the lamppost they walked into.

This is not to say that their behaviour isn’t disgusting, stupid, unsuccesful, dangerous and misguided, but more that there is no real you-centered thinking behind it.