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Right-wingers claim Colorado shooter Robert Lewis Dear is a trans woman

Accused Colorado Planned Parenthood shooter Robert Lewis Dear
Accused Colorado Planned Parenthood shooter Robert Lewis Dear

So far we only know bits and pieces about the strange and isolated life of Robert Lewis Dear, the alleged shooter who murdered three people and injured many others after holing up in a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood clinic yesterday afternoon.

We know that he had numerous run-ins with the law and with his neighbors, that he was accused in the past of domestic violence, that he lived in a small shack in the woods.

While Dear didn’t leave behind a manifesto, the fact that he targeted Planned Parenthood seems to be a rather large clue as to his motivations. Indeed, the mayor of Colorado Springs told reporters that they could make “inferences” about Dear’s motivations “from where [the shootings] took place.” Meanwhile, NBC is reporting that Dear talked about abortion after he was arrested, making reference to “baby parts,” according to NBC’s law enforcement sources.

Apparently embarrassed by the actions of yet another white male terrorist, some right-wingers are trumpeting a bizarre claim: that Dear is a trans woman. 

The claim seems to have originated with the blog Gateway Pundit, which posted voter registration information for Dear that labeled the alleged shooter as “female.”

To Gateway Pundit’s Jim Hoft, this isn’t just an innocent mistake on the part of some government clerk; it’s proof that Dear “Identifies as [a] Woman.”

Naturally, others picked up on the bizarre claim. Rich Hoffman, who blogs as Overmanwarrior, treated this “news” as a giant “gotcha.”

Guess what, Obama, MSNBC, CNN, Hillary Clinton and all the rest of the knuckle dragging losers of progressive politics? They thought they finally had a white middle-aged Republican man who committed a terrorist act—so that they could propose more gun control.

Never mind that most of America’s terrorists are in fact white men.

Sadly for them, the shooter—Robert Lewis Dear—the lunatic who shot up a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood clinic on November 27th 2015 appears to be a cross-gender loving pervert who shared much more with Obama’s LBGT community than the NRA loving American traditionalists.

Never mind that the only political activism anyone says they’ve seen Dear ever engaging in was handing out anti-Obama leaflets. 

According to early reports from The Gateway Pundit shown below indicate Robert Lewis Dear identified as a woman, not as the man that he is. Bet you won’t hear that on the news networks.

Probably because it’s not true.

Dear sounds like a cast member of The Rocky Horror Picture Show. That would explain his appearance.

Apparently Hoffman has never actually seen Rocky Horror.

Hoffman continued on — and on:

This is just further proof that liberals make most of the problems in our society. They feed anger toward Planned Parenthood with immoral justifications then they create a loose society full of perverts, peeping Toms, and losers who are men who think they are women and women who want to be men. USA Today almost had an orgasm when they saw the pictures of the suspect, but quickly put on the brakes once the stories of this idiot became clear. They reported that the motive was unclear so the hard reporting will probably die now that Robert Lewis Dear has turned out to be a Bruce Jenner clone—a woman in a man’s body. Perhaps Dear was jealous that real woman were able to get abortions for casual sex while he was not able to commit such a vile crime—so he went on a shooting spree. That conclusion is just as valid as Obama’s early comments regarding the push to use gun control as a way to keep more idiots like this loser free to peek in our windows all in the name of a more “progressive” society of morally loose punks and general depraved nut cases. Gun control laws obviously didn’t work with this confused person. Robert Lewis Dear was a Obama kind of guy—a bewildered mess who didn’t know what he was.

 

Naturally, Hoffman isn’t the only one crying “gotcha.” On Twitter, right-wingers are spreading the “news” of Dear’s imaginary status as a trans woman; they sound positively giddy.

https://twitter.com/AuroraStargazer/status/670676592809545729

https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/670535763575087104

https://twitter.com/GotharReichart/status/670722140723945472

https://twitter.com/US395/status/670651383301951488

Naturally, some couldn’t keep themselves from indulging in transphobic jokes:

Do any of these people actually believe that Dear is a trans woman, or are they deliberately spreading disinformation to amuse themselves and muddy the real issues?

I suspect that it is largely the latter. Either way, it is not a shining moment for them.

H/T — Thanks to yutolia, who tipped me off to this development in the comments here.

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Pawkette
Pawkette
5 years ago

Out of curiosity, is voter registration similar to social security or government issued drivers licenses? As far as I know in order to receive a female gender marker for each of these one must have a physicians note or letter or something that basically says “this person has had their bits operated on”.

I’m kinda unclear on the specifics, but I’m pretty sure that’s the case for most government stuff these days.

erica, ascendant
5 years ago

If you read my initial comment, it wasn’t making it all about them. If anything the responses saying “why are we talking about (insert acronym here) seem far more derailing. But, hey, why focus on what I actually said when it can be pick-and-choose taken out of context?

It’s not derailing to defend yourself, and when one implies a trans woman is “attacking feminists” it a)implies said trans woman isn’t a feminist, and that b)that trans woman possesses an animus toward feminists.

Anyways, done, this is just kick-the-freak territory at this point, and frankly the same thing I’ve been saying all along: this is burying the lede.

I’ll try again some other time, but this is…just a giant pile of disingenuity and avoiding blaming the actual problem (patriarchy, douchebag forced-birther shooter) because there’s an easier target.

I shall decline to be that easier target.

Basiorana
Basiorana
5 years ago

Kale–

http://beardsandbattlescars.tumblr.com/post/112215122976/this-beautiful-beard-belongs-to-the-handsome

Pretty much any guy can grow an epic beard if his hormones and genetics are right.

That said, the shooter is extremely unlikely to be transgender, he’d never have made it through psych evals.

Joe Cool
Joe Cool
5 years ago

@ kale I am a transman, and my beard could easily get that epic. I can also grow a much better moustache than this guy, but I don’t, because if I do my wife won’t kiss me 🙁

My secret, like everyone else’s, is an unpredictable mix of genetic inheritance, time, and hormones. (Just kidding, I traded my glorious golden mane to a black wizard so I could gain Beard Powers. So while my face hair is luxurious, my scalp is uh very chilly.)

nightmarelyre
5 years ago

Hey, you who keep complaining that Erica brought up TERFs, you are the one keeping on derailing by complaining that TERFs were brought up, and the reason it became a “thing” to begin with was because some gross person tried to defend TERFs. Don’t let this turn into another episode like the ableism one that made David have to redo the comment policy

dhag85
5 years ago

Wow, ok. Who exactly was defending TERFs?

Actually nevermind. I’ll go play Minecraft.

Lisa
Lisa
5 years ago

I once, jokingly, in responnse to some anti-trans comments made about an article said:

“Same old, old trans hate stuff, can we get some new stuff please just to liven things up a bit? It is so boring for us trans people to hear the same old things over and over again”.

I didn’t expect to be taken seriously though….

sbel
sbel
5 years ago

@nightmarelyre

I just reread the entire thread. I must have missed it. Who, where, and what?

booburry
5 years ago

Well, I wouldn’t call it a defense at all but this comment

I have long thought that the paranoia surrounding TERFs and their supposed presence everywhere is problematic, but in many spaces, saying so is a good way to get yourself labeled a TERF.

was pretty fucking ridiculous.

I don’t think its any worse for someone to suspect TERFs being involved in spreading vicious rumors as it is when we suspect 4chan or GG or any other likely culprit of fuckery. When you see it often enough, it sets off your radars, and we have to understand that people have different experiences that color their view on things.

Nate
Nate
5 years ago

Why would anyone anywhere take Gateway Pundit seriously?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

Nate — never underestimate the stupidity of people. Particularly when they’re commented on here. Not MRAs this time, but they have found the bottom of the barrel and kept right on digging to the point they must be lava-proof cuz they’ve hit the molten core by now.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

The problem here is I get three options here, and they all suck:

There is at least one more option:

4. Apply the TERF label when the person in question is actually a TERF and not do it when they’re not.

Again: TERFs don’t have a corner on trans-exclusion, or on radical feminism. Not every trans-exclusionary feminist you come across is a TERF. Not every radical feminist is trans-exclusionary. There’s a strong parallel between this kind of ideological essentialism (all radical feminists are TERFs and only radical feminists are TERFs) and the kind of gender essentialism that is the whole TERF problem (all women are X and only women are X). Not that I expect you to care at this point, but maybe something to think about later.

Radical feminists who are not trans-exclusionary exist, and in my experience are the majority of radfems. Although you’re not required to deal with this extremely basic nuance if you don’t want to, non-trans-exclusionary radical feminists aren’t required to fight for your rights when you treat them like trash.

If you read my initial comment, it wasn’t making it all about them.

And this whole business wasn’t about you at all, but about this comment by Vanessa Emma Goldman:

This ACTUAL transgender woman is way beyond ANGRY about this. Stupid right wingers spreading lies! I wonder if any TERFs have a hand in this, they often team up with right wingers to go after women they do not like, such as trans women and sex worker women.

Yeah, there’s not actually a reason to think that TERFs have a hand in this. There is an entire universe of trans-exclusionary people out there who are not TERFs.

booburry
5 years ago

non-trans-exclusionary radical feminists aren’t required to fight for your rights when you treat them like trash.

Wait, what? Your support for oppressed groups is conditional on how some of their members treat you personally? For real?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

Wait, what? Your support for oppressed groups is conditional on how some of their members treat you personally? For real?

I suppose it depends on what you mean by “support.” Do I emotionally support trans women, regardless of their opinion of me? Yes. Do I verbally support them, likewise? Yes.

Do I go out and expend my limited time and energy actively fighting for someone who trashes me? No. My time and energy are limited and nobody is actually entitled to it. At a minimum, to obtain my active, activist support, you need to treat me like a human being.

Am I going to require radical feminists to do something I am not willing to do? No.

LG.
LG.
5 years ago

“Well, I wouldn’t call it a defense at all but this comment

‘I have long thought that the paranoia surrounding TERFs and their supposed presence everywhere is problematic, but in many spaces, saying so is a good way to get yourself labeled a TERF.’

was pretty fucking ridiculous.”

You know what? You’re right. It really was. And I apologize. Next time I’ll think before I talk or just shut up a bit more.

I’m in a weird place in my life where I’m realizing that a lot of my own transphobia manifests as anger because I’m not really sure what’s going on with my identity. Kinda like the closeted homophobes. But I need to not make that other peoples’ problem.

Again, I apologize. It was out of line.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

Thank you LG, for modeling how to remove your foot from your mouth. I’d really like to not go through this all again, as a general thing, and I feel like a lot of it does just need more “nope, not replying right now, I’ll get back to it after some tea (or whatever)”

So yeah, thanks for that, and, as always, fuck Brennan.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

PS shut up Woody!

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

Related to original topic (not the ridiculous trans smearing of the right wing, but the shooter and his motives)…

Supreme Court shoots down Wisconsin law designed to restrict abortion rights! Setting precedence for the same to happen throughout the country! Positive news is da best news.

Lisa
Lisa
5 years ago

“Radical feminists who are not trans-exclusionary exist, and in my experience are the majority of radfems.”

100% true, the vast majority are trans inclusive, it is only a small (very vocal though) minority that are TERFs, most from (or identify with) that 80s feminist period.

They are weird people though, take Germaine Greer, her hatred of trans people (trans women especially) extends to a hatred of intersex women too. In her book ‘The Whole Woman’ she devoted pages attacking intersex women as ‘failed males’, ‘incomplete males’, ‘spurious females’. And in her view all trans men are caused by medical conditions….

Sheila Jefferys in her book ‘Unpacking Queer Politics’ endlessly atacked gay males, butch/femme lesbians, marriage and marriage equality, anyone (of any gender or sexuality) that showed any feminity* and just about everyone under the Queer umbrella (trans people too of course).

They also have a weird order of priorities, at the top of the hate list are trans people (again especially trans women). They are seen as far worse than right wing, religious, misogynist men, so they feel free (and do) to team up with them against trans people.

Just on a sheer numbers and power levels basis those right wing, religious, misogynist men vastly outnumber trans people AND have far more political and economic power to attack women overall (and do so endlessly).
On that level trans people are like a couple of kids with pop guns compared to a vast well armed army. Using that rational analysis you’d think they would ignore trans people as irrelevant (even if they hated them) and concentrate on the right wing men…..nope.

So you do wonder at their mentality and especially their intelligence at times.

* Gay males knitting in public were actually attacking women according to her…

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

I was going to comment on the TERF thing but

1) as usual, whatever I wanted to say has been said a million times better by others, this time namely Policy of Madness.

2) had to take my meds to day so I’m pretty much semi-stoned and I feel more like putting on a Peter, Paul & mary album and staring at my hands.

kale
kale
5 years ago

Holy Shit!
I want a epic beard like that, that is dope… I wouldnt assume anyone can grow one tho, The guys I know havent had that much success. Then again, everyone I know is poor so…
still good to know. one of my dreams just became more possible…

dhag85
5 years ago

@booburry

Thanks for pointing that out. I agree, that part was not very helpful.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

“to day”? Really? That’s almost creative typoing.

kale
kale
5 years ago

uhm, some trans women talking about how a hate group harasses them doesnt mean all trans people are attacking “radical feminists” whatever that label actually means. When we say TERFs, the T.E. is the relevent part. When we say “men harass women” we dont mean all men either, and men should still support women’s rights. Trans women are feminists, radically feminist, Id say. Also nonbinary trans people and trans men exist.

dhag85
5 years ago

@kale

This has been acknowledged, right?

sbel
sbel
5 years ago

Kale, who are you responding to? Who claimed that ‘all trans people are attacking “radical feminists”’? I feel like I’m missing half of this conversation….

Lisa
Lisa
5 years ago

Kate: “some trans women talking about how a hate group harasses them doesnt mean all trans people are attacking “radical feminists”

100% true, many, many radical feminists are trans peoples’ greatest allies.
Also true is that many, many trans people are feminists, a lot radical ones as well.

“Also nonbinary trans people and trans men exist.”. Yep and sadly often forgotten. There is this obsession with trans women but the transgender umbrella covers a whole range of gender variant and non conforming people. The number of our brother trans men are rising ever faster and will soon (if not already) equal trans women.

booburry
5 years ago

Hey, L.G., thanks for that. I understand.

nightmarelyre
5 years ago

@dhag85 @sbel I think the comment that defended TERFs was deleted shortly after it got called out, I assume it was either them realizing they said something bad and deleted it to try and not cause any more harm or that one of the moderators got to it. Seems certain others in here is happy to take over the job of trying to defend their precious TERF sisters to the death instead of trying to get the comments back on rails though, hmm

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

“radical feminists” whatever that label actually means.

Radical feminism is a branch of feminism that posits that the most basic structures of society are flawed and sexist, and as a result society itself must be completely restructured if the sexism is to be rooted out.

That is literally all that all radical feminists have in common. Every other point of doctrine varies between the different groups of radfems. However, it’s an important distinction between radfems and other forms of feminism. What was once called liberal feminism, for instance, thinks that the structure of society is fine, and the problem is the way it is implemented. If women are given improved access to education, jobs and job promotions, and child care, then sexism can be eliminated without completely revamping societal structures. Radical feminism says no, that isn’t enough.

Let’s say that we observe that aggressive, alpha-personality traits and a lot of time and effort dedicated toward work activities get people farther on the corporate ladder than any of the alternatives. We furthermore observe that women usually don’t exhibit these personality traits, and are often hampered by the requirements of child care and can’t dedicate the same amount of time toward work activities as men.

Liberal feminism and its successors say that the solution is to teach women to be more aggressive, and to provide them with better child care options so that they have the same time and energy to dedicate to work activities as men. This will put them onto equal footing as men and let them compete on the same grounds.

Radical feminism says hold up, why are male-coded traits the recipe for success? This is not exactly a force of nature; this is a societal choice. Instead of trying to make women more like men so that they can compete with men, we should question why traits that are coded as male are used to signal fitness in a corporate structure, and why are these specific traits coded as male in the first place when not all men display them and not all women lack them. Why is the sheer amount of time you can spend at work valued more highly than your ability to do work in a time-efficient way, and why is that a male-coded trait in the first place?

So that’s what the label means.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

“Seems certain others in here is happy to take over the job of trying to defend their precious TERF sisters to the death instead of trying to get the comments back on rails though, hmm”

Who the what now?
like I said, meds. But I did not read this conversation in this way at all. “TERF sisters” was particularly accusatory and disturbing).

dhag85
5 years ago

@nightmarelyre

Are you sure? I didn’t think comments usually get deleted here. And we’ve had some pretty vile stuff. I hope it’s not the case that it’s been completely deleted because it makes discussions difficult to follow.

sbel
sbel
5 years ago

@nightmarelyre,

OK, that would explain why I didn’t see it.

But now you’ve made another claim. Who is defending TERFs? All I see is people claiming #NotAllRadicalFeminists, and people asking why we’re even discussing TERFs.

nightmarelyre
5 years ago

Well this whole thing started because someone used the term “radical fauxminists” and then out of the woodwork came a wave of #NotAllRadfems and “if you are gonna be mean to us, we are not gonna protect you!” and other nonsense, which is why I am saying to stop with the whole trying to defend radical feminism against the “meaniepants trans people” or whatever and just get back on topic already.

Some trans people feel unsafe around radical feminists because not enough is done to try and get rid of the TERFs from the movement. Deal with it, and move on.

pkayden
5 years ago

Wow. The Rightwing can’t sink any lower. So a trans woman cannot be a Conservative/Republican? Caitlin Jenner is a Republican and has publicly stated her dislike for President Obama. These people are desperate to dissociate from a monster they’ve created. Dear is all theirs.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

Seems certain others in here is happy to take over the job of trying to defend their precious TERF sisters to the death

which is why I am saying to stop with the whole trying to defend radical feminism against the “meaniepants trans people” or whatever and just get back on topic already.

Thanks for providing an example of someone equating radical feminism with TERFs, as though they are synonyms, because nothing says that I’m overreacting to a nonexistent thing like proving that the thing exists.

dhag85
5 years ago

@nightmarelyre

I don’t even know where to start with all that straw. Honestly I have no idea what thread you’ve been reading, but I must’ve missed it completely.

TERFs are bad. Trans people are as good as other people. Radical feminist =/= TERF. Minecraft = now.

katz
katz
5 years ago

@dhag85 @sbel I think the comment that defended TERFs was deleted shortly after it got called out, I assume it was either them realizing they said something bad and deleted it to try and not cause any more harm or that one of the moderators got to it.

That’s not likely; you can’t delete your own comments and David or the mods would have said something.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

#NotAllRadfems is actually a valid point. Comparing it to #NotAllMen which is there to only derail conversation from actual issues is not valid.

“I am saying to stop with the whole trying to defend radical feminism against the “meaniepants trans people” or whatever and just get back on topic already.”

I am a radical feminist. Of this description:

“Radical feminism says hold up, why are male-coded traits the recipe for success? This is not exactly a force of nature; this is a societal choice. Instead of trying to make women more like men so that they can compete with men, we should question why traits that are coded as male are used to signal fitness in a corporate structure, and why are these specific traits coded as male in the first place when not all men display them and not all women lack them. Why is the sheer amount of time you can spend at work valued more highly than your ability to do work in a time-efficient way, and why is that a male-coded trait in the first place?”

“Some trans people feel unsafe around radical feminists because not enough is done to try and get rid of the TERFs from the movement. Deal with it, and move on.”

Radical feminism isn’t a club at which TERFs have a table. So we cannot walk up to their booth and set it on fire. We can, however, keep pointing out that the term ‘radical feminism’ is being misused. Or do you call all terrorists muslims and all muslims terrorists until the muslim community gets rid of terrorism magically somehow?

Lisa
Lisa
5 years ago

What trans people like myself get so angry about (and so often very hurt) by TERFs is not the political/theoretical attacks on us. That can be dealt with, we can all debate and argue over those.

It is the horrble, deep personal attacks. You have no idea how bad some of them are.

There is one site that outs young trans men (as youmg as 15) trawling through personal pages then puting their names and pictures in public for their parents, schools, etc to see.

The horrible cruel things said by some about poor Leehlaj Alcorn or about Jazz Jennings. The endless attacks (again so often very cruel) on trans children, over and above adults.

Julie Burchill just did a 1,150 word ‘hit piece’ in the Spectator on the Transgender Day of Remberance recently and it was horrible.

There are very few trans people that don’t know someone else that has been attacked or (more often) committed or tried to commit suicide…or tried it themselves. So TDOR has become very important to us, familes and friends, to remember and reflect on those we have lost.

it was cruel and completely unnecessary, full of slurs, derogatory statements and personal attacks. This of course triggered off an outpouring of trans hate in the comments.

This is an intelligent, well educated, well read person who writes this sort of stuff for a national, major media outlet…and gets published. Things like:
“when Paris Lees and her mates were making makeshift tissue-paper tutus for their Action Men”
“And these caterwauling cry-bullies deserve their own flag?”
“They are vulnerable to physical attacks from stupid people and low sarcasm from smart people like me.”
“…to commemorate a sect who spend their lives looking down their knickers”

What is worng with these people? This is not some radical feminist political critique thing happening, this is downright hatred.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

It is the horrble, deep personal attacks. You have no idea how bad some of them are.

That’s wrong, and it’s completely legit for you to be upset about it.

dhag85
5 years ago

@Lisa

Yup. That’s fucking terrible. Nobody should be saying that stuff. If someone does it here, I sincerely hope they’ll get shut down fast by the regular commenters.

LG
LG
5 years ago

There’s a difference between saying “not all radical feminists” and saying, “not all radical feminisms.” Kind of in the same way that pointing out the difference between Men’s Lib (historically pro-feminist) and Men’s Rights (historically anti-feminist) isn’t like a cry a “Not All Men,” unless context makes it so.

That said, context wasn’t great. There was a lot on inappropriate response to the innocent question about TERFs, and I’ll reiterate that I regret my part in that.

dhag85
5 years ago

Having just googled Julie Burchill, she seems like a horrible person. 🙁

nightmarelyre
5 years ago

Point is, people were getting super overdefensive over a speculation and completely derailed the entire comment section. So let’s just deal with this and get back on track, okay?

Lisa
Lisa
5 years ago

Here’s a comment and question from Cristan Williams

“I find it interesting that sex essentialists (some right wingers, TERFs, and religious folk) have latched onto the idea that the Planned Parenthood shooter was a trans woman.

From the perspective of critiquing sex essentialist ideology, do you think this serves sex essentialist narratives? Do you feel that such narratives serves patriarchy?”

My reply was, it is just a tactic.
“Do you feel that such narratives serves patriarchy?”. Yes.

The patriarchy are desperate to avoid facing the issue that there are organised, supported white male Christian terrorists in the US. Many of whom target women and coloured people.

These are the stalwarts and foot soldiers for the patriarchy and as such are untouchable.

The usual excuse is that they are all ‘mentally ill’, extending that to them being LGBTI is just another tactic.”

AnAndrejaPejicBlog (@A_Pejic_Blog)

Here’s an article about one of the people Dear murdered, Ke’Arre Stewart:

http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/kearre-stewart-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-shooting-victim-iraq-veteran-hero-funeral-jennifer-markovsky-garrett-swasay/

It includes a link to a Gofundme for his funeral expenses. He leaves behind two young children.

Also slain was Jennifer Markovsky, mother of two small children. I can’t find information on a fund yet.

And of course, there’s Officer Garrett Swasey. There’s a fund for him, too, but I’m giving my money to Stewart’s family, since they’ve raised far less so far.

Lisa
Lisa
5 years ago

nightmarelyre: It’s a bit tricky trying to find a shorthand term to cover everyone in the non-white spectrum. In the US and elsewhere the victims chosen are often, but not always black, they can be a Native American, Mediterranean, Middle Eastern or Asian hues as well. They are often targets as well.

The people that do this (and the bigots that support them) just go and pick any non white person as a target, their bigotry extends right across the spectrum. Similary with women, they will attack any type of woman.

I need to find something more descriptive of the range, but I am stuffed if I can find one appropriate and short. if anyone has a good idea please post.