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“Feminists you should be F***ING SHOT,” and other insights from Scott Adams’ fans

Belle Starr: Proof that women run the world?
Belle Starr: Proof that women run the world?

So our dear old friend Scott Adams has responded to my recent post on him by declaring it “Pathetic Outragism” and me an “Outragist.” He also strongly suggested that I was a stupidhead. Which is a step up, I suppose, from calling me fat, which is the go-to response of many of those I’ve written about.

Adams’ fans, a tiny army of whom showed up here after Adams linked to it, haven’t been quite so polite, leaving behind some comments that I haven’t let out of moderation. But I thought I’d share a few of them with you all.

“You, sir, are an imbecile of the first order,” wrote one. “P Z Myers is a c**t,” wrote another, perhaps a little confused as to what blog he was on. (And no, the original comment didn’t contain asterisks.)

But it was a fellow calling himself John Doe (but using an email account with a woman’s name) that really took the terribleness cake. I’ve broken his huge wall of text up a bit.

CONTENT WARNING: Domestic abuse, gaslighting, genocide, you name it.

Adams is so great. Fuck all you dirty piece of shit feminists you should be FUCKING SHOT or sterilized. or sent to a rehabilitation facility.

Well, I’ll give him this: he gets right to the point.

You should lose your right to vote. Ignorance is dangeorus. and Feminism is evil ignorance. Feminism is not about equal rights and has not been for many decades. Maybe if this was the 1960s america you could say something to me, but now you can shove it up your fucking ass. Fuck american womena nd fuck feminism.

When I started this blog I really had no idea that there were still people around who think women shouldn’t have the right to vote. Turns out there are a lot of them.

Men will stop getting marreid more and more. THe spawn of the MGTOW groups are evidence of this.

I’m not sure that these guys leaving the dating pool is quite the catastrophe for women that MGTOWs think it is.

The government is getting what they want. People to stop breeding.

Uh, I’m pretty sure that the government, at least here in the US, is not terribly interested in stopping people from “breeding.” Hell, the IRS actually gives parents an assortment of tax breaks.

But it turns out that Mr. Doe doesn’t actually think it’s a bad idea to, er, reduce the population of planet earth. Specifically by shooting feminists.

I think every feminist should be sent to a labor camp or imprisoned or shot dead. I don’t care. You are scum and if you are not capable of changing you should lose your right to live. All humans are a burden to the earth, but Feminists are a burden to all humans and everything else, especially men.

This seems harsh.

Women are treated like children and coddled with kid gloves and in some ways you always have been.

[citation needed]

Even in 1890 there was a female bandit in the west that did crazy shit and got away with it for years. But there were men that did the same that were shot dead instantly.

An odd example, but I guess that’s as close to a citation as we’ll get. Presumably he means Belle Starr, who had a long career as a bandit in the “wild west” before being shot to death, possibly by her husband, possibly by a dude who was mad she wouldn’t dance with him. (No, really, those were two of the prime suspects.)

After this short digression, Doe returns to his main themes:

And men have always fought the wars. Women rarely in any society ever had to do so. You got to stay home. You got the easier job.

Women have been working, in the home and out of it, since the dawn of time. They have also been victims of war.

The rant then takes another dark turn:

The only way now for a normal guy to have a healthy relationship with a girl under 30 in the new generation is to scare the shit out of your woman and make her fear you and make her think you will end her life if she tries to screw you over. That is the only way to keep them in line from being destructive bitches. And even then you might have to sit them down and threaten them now and then.

This is abuse 101, though not terribly different from “dread game” as promoted by Heartiste and other pickup artists.

I had to, i’ve had to with the last girl i dated. all the time.

I can only hope he’s talking out of his ass here.

Look what happened when i didn’t. She told her friend i was a drug dealer simply because she was jealous she liked me. She publically slandered me. So i used her took her virginity which honestly id trade for her hotter friend at this point.

What a romantic!

Unless you are rich and powerful and good looking youre only real option to have a good time and enough control that you can relax is to scare the shit out of these girls, find some way to blackmail them or scare them and use it. That is the only way.

Today I Learned that “healthy” heterosexual relationships are only possible if the man is rich and/or abusive.

Even without me saying any of this it remains true and feminism has destroyed the country and everyone born from the 90s onward.

And once again an opponent of feminism demonstrates clearly why feminism is necessary.

Doe had some words for me as well:

David Futrelle is a piece of shit beta male and should lose his right to vote among other freedoms for supporting such a piece of shit ideology.

Apparently the only people Doe thinks should be allowed to vote are men who hate women.

The US and Canada and most 1st world countries are female dominated all the way up to the super rich who then are the men having power but everyone who is not rich is ruled and controlled by females if they want any kind of success. Period.

Yeah, that’s not actually how it works.

Unless you do as I was saying before, find a way to scare a girl and blackmail her into doing what you want. Because even if she likes you, even if you are perfect for her, she would rather run away and flirt with many other guys and fuck things up. So scare her into submission.

If you hate women so much that your notion of a “healthy” heterosexual relationship is one in which the man is so abusive that the woman literally fears for her life. here’s a thought: Don’t date women. Don’t come near them. Seek treatment for your fucked-up ideas.

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TakeThatHatOff
TakeThatHatOff
5 years ago

Part of me wants to hope that all the thoughts being expressed are an impulse reaction that this person will feel terrible about, given a small amount of time to think. However the sheer number of them and the fact they keep coming back makes that seem impossibly naive. Hope for humanity is out there somewhere but im afraid these people are the furthest thing from it.

Judas Peckerwood
Judas Peckerwood
5 years ago

“Women are treated like children and coddled with kid gloves and in some ways you always have been.”

And apparently he thinks that this is a positive approach that somehow benefits women.

reymohammed
reymohammed
5 years ago

 So i used her took her virginity which honestly id trade for her hotter friend at this point.
……….

I suspect he means violent rape.

katz
katz
5 years ago

Gosh, such an outrageist, writing about his blog post. You should have done something less outragey, like threatening to blow yourself up if people don’t hug you.

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
5 years ago

#MasculinitySoFragile that criticizing a fucking comic strip writer is cause to revoke women’s right to vote, open woman only labor camps, abuse ANY AND ALL women you want a relationship, and commit gynocide.

bluecatbabe
bluecatbabe
5 years ago

“This seems hash.”

I was thinking crystal meth myself.

And, I thought MGTOWs were not supposed to have any spawn, are they?

Unless Mr Textbook Abuser is confusing a rather disparaging word used to refer to someone else’s offspring with ‘spew’, which could characterise many MGTOW’s rants, as well as his own.

Golly, how proud Scott Adams must be of his fanboys.

NicolaLuna
NicolaLuna
5 years ago

I’m actively seeking sterilisation and I already work in a rehab so hopefully this charming guy will calm down a little. I feel a bit sad for him that he’s so very angry, that must be a terrible life to lead. Just constantly walking around filled with rage and fear and not being able to have meaningful relationships.

At the same time, I hope he’s this blatant about his toxic views in his day to day interactions so that all women everywhere know to run the other way rather than being in danger with him.

hippielady
hippielady
5 years ago

I can only hope that this horrible example of humanity is kept far away from any woman. The fact that a real person actually thinks like this is horrifying.

SpecialFFrog
SpecialFFrog
5 years ago

I actually looked at the response from Adams to see if he attempted to respond to any of the criticism rather than just declare it “outragism”.

Spoiler alert: he doesn’t.

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
5 years ago

It must suck to be this guy, and suck so bad.

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

The only way now for a normal guy to have a healthy relationship with a girl under 30 in the new generation is to scare the shit out of your woman and make her fear you and make her think you will end her life if she tries to screw you over.

Yes.

That does simply scream “normal” and “healthy”.

I mean, I know that’s how I navigate the social sphere – instilling fear, claiming ownership of other human beings, and threatening death.

/s

freemage
5 years ago

I know it was a very minor point in that slew of awfulness, but I felt the need to rebut this particular bit with a single link to someone who fights far better than I do:

And men have always fought the wars. Women rarely in any society ever had to do so. You got to stay home. You got the easier job.

http://aidanmoher.com/blog/featured-article/2013/05/we-have-always-fought-challenging-the-women-cattle-and-slaves-narrative-by-kameron-hurley/

Fuck off, John Doe, fuck off forever.

vanir85
5 years ago

Wow. A raving, homocidally hateful misogynist who want any woman not toeing the line enslaved or killed. That’s… actually not surprising at all. Given Scott Adams apparant views on women, that’s pretty much what I expected his more die-hard fans to be like.

autosoma
5 years ago

I was a bit upset that he didn’t explain further how you achieve MGTOW spawning, is it game spawning, frog spawning, salmon spawning, some kind of half arsed straight to torrent DVD b-movie horror spawning, or do MGTOW-ers have to shag themselves in order to recreate their own special kind if recessive mix in the gene pool.

Today I had a penny dropping moment when I realised that I;ve managed to cut out most ablist words and thinking… and along comes John Doe to set me back.

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

auto – I think MGTOW-spawning is more akin to how zombies “procreate” rather than actual breeding.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I hope all the Adam’s fans who are maintaining that the misogyny was a joke, a satire or taken out of context will also rush over to point out to John Doe that he wasn’t supposed to literally interpret the post as “women who don’t hug/fuck/date men on demand are to blame for terrorism.”

Anne
Anne
5 years ago

I hope there is only few of them out there in RL….And I hope that they’ll VERY far away from the rest of us !

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I was a bit upset that he didn’t explain further how you achieve MGTOW spawning

If a man looks in the mirror and says “Eliot Rodger” 3 times, Rodger’s spirit will emerge and touch his hand with an enchanted joystick that causes that hand to compulsively troll the internet, talking about how evil women are.

freemage
5 years ago

Adams has three go-to defenses for all the shit that comes out of his mouth:

1: “You’re misreading me/taking it out of context!” This is never, ever accompanied by a clarification of the meaning or context that would actually make the shit palatable.

2: “Outragist!” This is the latest iteration of “politically correct”, it’s a weaselly attempt to suggest that the person being so labeled doesn’t actually care about the issue in question, or find it to be important and worth discussing. It deserves nothing more complex as a response than a healthy “FUCK YOU!”

3: “Satire!” This essentially tells us that Scott Adams has no fucking clue what the word “satire” means.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Another dude who thinks women are treated too gently and by too gently, he means not murdered. …and he thinks women are evil for prefering other men to him.

I don’t doubt that he’s an abuser. They have internet access too.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
5 years ago

SpecialFfrog, you see me utterly surprised. Who could have know he would prefer to bury his head in the sand ?

aussiesmurf
aussiesmurf
5 years ago

“Ignorance is dangeorus”

This quote is so delicious, I just had to repeat it.

vmart012
5 years ago

It seems to me the a lot of the manosphere is made up of guys who yearn for some sort of fantasy bygone past where men procured a young wife and marriage worked as a clear cut business transaction. He provided financial security and she provided sex and progeny (or offspring, or spawn. They are never referred to as children. That would imply some sort of emotion rather than ownership). She could never leave of course, because she could not provide for herself and who would want her when she was used? So he held all the cards and got everything he wanted. To them, that is what a healthy relationship looks like. I get what I want or else.

Now they see a world where women have to like you based on abstract concepts like personality and can leave whenever they like. This seems like some sort of profound injustice to them. Being equal is unequal because treating a woman like property is their birthright. This guy talks about abusing women because he resents that they won’t naturally submit him like he imagines they should.

pzmyers
pzmyers
5 years ago

Sorry about the confusion. You’ve got to admit, we do look like twins when one is blinded with rage.

contrapangloss
5 years ago

I find this disappointing, because Dilbert was the main comic-strip of my childhood.

🙁

Ellesar
Ellesar
5 years ago

I wonder what he would consider sufficient control of a woman before feminism. The actual ownership of women as per the 19th century? We already know that he wants women to lose the vote. I’ll make a wild guess that he considers the notion of marital rape to be an outrage to male control. Asking husband/ father permission to do anything? I think he’d like that.

The more I read about these wankers the more clear the need for feminism becomes – if there are men around who actually wants to take away all our human rights AND use threats and intimidation in relationships then the fight for women’s liberation is far from over.

chaltab
chaltab
5 years ago

I think we should add ‘nonsensical petulant outrage from misogynists’ to life’s guarantees, alongside death and taxes.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago
lkeke35
5 years ago

And once again, irony is not those guys strong suit as they make “outraged” declarations against “outrage”.

We keep trying to tell them, it’s okay to take themselves somewhere, that is away, from the rest of humanity, but for some reason, they refuse to leave.

Apparently this guy wants to return to the times depicted in the old west/Victorian era, that was depicted in 1950’s movies, where women didn’t have any choice but to marry who they were told or be consider ruined, like spoilt milk.

Antisocialite
Antisocialite
5 years ago

My, my. And misogynists think women are over-emotional and out of control.

athveg34f
athveg34f
5 years ago

Re: guy having a female’s name for an email address… A loud misogynist used to haunt a woman’s site and boast that he was able to infiltrate a sooper-seekrit ultra-feminist website so he could learn of all the sooper-seekrit feminist plans to overthrow the government (yes, really). He said all it took was a fake female-sounding email address and a few phony posts supporting the eebil sooper-sekrit plans.

He then proceeded to tell us all that feminists are evil, are trying to kill/destroy men and boys, and currently control ALL factions of the government in North America. The guy was so absurd-sounding, but also so very proud of himself for having infiltrated what must have been to him the KGB.

I wonder now if this is a common trick that woman-haters do.

pkayden
pkayden
5 years ago

Reading John Doe’s sexist/violent rant makes me shudder since he’s proudly admitting to threatening women with whom he has had relationships. He needs to stay the hell away from women since he hates us so much.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
5 years ago

Okay, seriously: I’ve seen a few people under the name “John Doe” and they all have been raging assholes. Is this only one John Doe who spreads his shit everywhere, are all men named John Doe assholes, or is this I joke I just don’t get?

Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
5 years ago

“The government is getting what they want. People to stop breeding.”

Great! How can I help the government help these men to go their own way?

Miss A
Miss A
5 years ago

Dafuq I just read? I don’t know what’s more terrifying, that people honestly hold those kinds of beliefs, or that they feel free to spew them every which way.

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

@Rosa – It’s their way of claiming to be an anonymous everyman.

http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=29996

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

What’s weird is that usually John Does are unidentified male murder victims. Why would they want to name themselves after something people associated with that? Wouldn’t a more accurate anonymous name for rage filled internet misogynists be something like UnSub?

Crip Dyke
Crip Dyke
5 years ago

Because even if she likes you, even if you are perfect for her, she would rather run away and flirt with many other guys and fuck things up.

If she would rather run away from you, and if the consensual flirting she wants to do is something you will not tolerate in the context of your relationship…

you aren’t perfect for her, are you?

Matt
Matt
5 years ago

“If you hate women so much that your notion of a “healthy” heterosexual relationship is one in which the man is so abusive that the woman literally fears for her life. here’s a thought: Don’t date women. Don’t come near them. Seek treatment for your fucked-up ideas.”

Also, the next time you see your dad – punch him in the balls, hard. You learned this bullshit from SOMEPLACE.

Trae Dorn
5 years ago

I’m surprised Scott Adams responded so briefly. Usually he spends a lot of words explaining how you misunderstood what he wrote because you have low reading comprehension

http://irresponsibleirreverence.trhonline.com/comics/2011-06-29-92scottadams.jpg

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
5 years ago

@mockingbird
Thanks you! I feel like this is telling.
But if this ‘John Doe’ in particular was an accurate representative of the average guy, I’d be Going My Own Way just about now.

Crip Dyke
Crip Dyke
5 years ago

@RosadeLava:

There’s one John Doe I like.

But showing your face and using John Doe to keep your private life private when you’re in a band is a bit different than not showing your face and screaming abuse at people and using John Doe to escape accountability.

newbie
newbie
5 years ago

This is a good example of the demographic that Scott Adams and his ideas represent. It makes it crystal clear why feminism continues to be an urgent necessity.

spacelawn
5 years ago

What a surprise that fans of this Scott Adams guy are real asshats.

bekabot
5 years ago

So our dear old friend Scott Adams has responded to my recent post on him by declaring it ‘Pathetic Outragism’ and me an ‘Outragist.’

Scott Adams — not good with words.

Can’t he just stick to pictures?

FifthInterval
5 years ago

My money’s on: this John Doe person has never actually dated any women in his life, ever.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

Mr. Doe, thank you for weighing in.

What state do you reside in? Never mind, I’ll just show you this as an example:

Assault in California is an intentional attempt to physically injure another, or a menacing or threatening act or statement that causes the other person to believe they are about to be attacked. This crime doesn’t involve actual physical contact. Battery is the intentional and unlawful use of force or violence against another—physical contact is involved here. Assault or battery with a deadly weapon or with force likely to cause great bodily injury are more serious crimes, classified as felonies.

(Cal. Penal Code §§ 240, 242).

Penalties for Assault in California

A person who is convicted of simple assault faces the following possible penalties:

up to six months in jail
a fine up to $1000 (or $2000 if the assault is committed against a parking officer — someone who issues parking tickets), and
probation up to six months.

(Cal. Penal Code § 241)

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/violent-crime/california-assault-battery-laws

Shadow
Shadow
5 years ago

everyone born from the 90s onwards

HAHAA, I’m an 80s baby! Foiled again feminists!! Muahaha-

The US and Canada and most 1st world countries are female dominated all the way up to the super rich who then are the men having power but everyone who is not rich is ruled and controlled by females if they want any kind of success.

GODDAMMITT! Just had to migrate didn’t we! “We’re going to have a better life” my parents said. A dastardly plot by my mother, no doubt!

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