So I was skimming my way through the comment section on a recent Telegraph article on MRAs and the Red Pill. Naturally, the comment section was filled to overflowing with angry comments from an assortment of familiar MRA and “Red Pill” names. I happened to notice some, well, intriguing contributions to the discussion from a fellow I didn’t know: DarkTriadMan, first name, Ivan.
Though he avoids the “red-pill, blue-pill” lingo that so fascinates so many reactionary. woman-hating doofballs, Ivan Adultman — sorry, Ivan DarkTriadMan — basically thinks we live in the Matrix:
The dark world is lit from age to age with the light of reason and progress, with technology and science, and our creature comforts are blinding. But the reality is quite different. Western civilization is nothing more than a teasing curtain, increasingly ridiculous and tottering, drawn over the dark world that remains as the base nature of creation.
How can a curtain be “teasing” or “tottering,” much less both at the same time?
But never mind, because Ivan DarkTriadMan opens this “teasing curtain” to reveal the DARK TRUTHS about women. Or at least about the teenage girls he fantasizes about having sex with.
Dear readers, if you’re not in the mood to read some seriously skeevy, rapey shit, you should probably skip the next quote.
The half-dozen teenage girls twittering and chatting and giggling over their cellphones and taking selfies of their perfect clothes and bodies and hair are an illusion. The reality after the power goes out is that they are a huddled group of frightened, beaten commodities kept for the amusement of the warlord and any of his men he chooses to reward. They don’t giggle and take selfies and they don’t dare talk back when they are told to present their naked rears.
Um, what? Somehow i doubt that the readers of the Telegraph are much interested in hearing about the creepy Gorean sexual fantasies of one Ivan DarkTriadMan.
But apparently he doesn’t think his creepy sexual fantasies are creepy — or, for that matter,fantasies.
Nope. Ivan DarkTriadMan is convinced that teenage girls taking selfies, feminists who find him repellent, and presumably every other woman in the world, are all secretly in lust with the giant hunk of man that is DarkTriadMan.
As he explains in another comment, feminists (or maybe all women?)
change from whining to salivating at the drop of a hat when the male they truly desire walks past. You cannot change biology, although you can layer over it with false, blathering frippery.
Yeah, that’s right, even those man-hating feminist harpies are totally into him.
Such creatures as our local feminist thrive on the concern and disgust of men. It is through such engagement they find value, as the engagement and attention of men is not otherwise available to them on the open sexual market that forms the basis of human interactions.
I’ll let Jennifer Lawrence handle this one.
Presumably, when feminist women post comments on message boards mocking him for “living in your own weird little world” and noting that “you talk about women like you have never spoken to one,” they’re just flirting.
They totally want the DarkTriadMan.
PS: I’m not sure what sort of “frippery” DarkTriadMan was talking about, but some of you might enjoy this Frippery. Well, Frippertronics, to be more precise.
Ah, neoreactionaries. Because what misogyny really needed was an apocalyptic bent.
What is this I don’t even
Well, I do have seen “dark enlightned” type before. But he seem to believe we live in the porno version of Mad Max.
I like the word frippery. I wish this creep wouldn’t corrupt it.
And he’s writing this because he’s desperately trying to convince himself that somewhere, some woman, is into him.
C’mon, man, two can play at this “psychoanalize your opponent when you know fuck all about them” game.
Because if there’s one thing that feminists always complain about, it’s not getting enough unsolicited attention from skeezy men.
So when Antifeminists and other manospherians try to harass, etc women/girls and feminists they want our attention and they’re flirting? They totally want us you guys. Well I don’t blame them a lot of us are pretty awesome but still
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hedin | November 20, 2015 at 1:19 pm
“Because if there’s one thing that feminists always complain about, it’s not getting enough unsolicited attention from skeezy men.”
Thats what “skeezy men” do, they say women and girls love it to excuse their behavior and let’s them continue to do it. That’s where the “women are emotional” and “women don’t know what they want” comes from.
Orrr… We argue with them because they keep showing up here. More projection, yes?
Every time a guy identifies as “dark triad,” I like to imagine he wets the bed.
Counterpoint: There are plenty of feminists that long ago lost any interest in arguing with the likes of you, darling. We prefer to mock you from a safe distance (one where we won’t get flecked with your rage-spittle).
@SFHC
It’s because they want us, don’t ya know? They want to have sex with us, and they want to be assured that we care about them personally (when we say we don’t hate men), and they want us to take care of them, and be their mother, and their wife, and thei sex-slave, all in one neat little package, because they have mommy issues. And I’ll go further and say that they want specifically feminists, because they think we’re playing hard to get, and of course men loooooooooooove that. Competing for a mate was hardwired into male’s brains ever since the dinossaurs! It is truths!
I see why this guy was running his mouth off- this is fun!
Time for the authorities to dig up this guy’s basement.
Nope, can’t, won’t. Answers what to watch though — X-Men something with Jennifer Lawrence and the swoon worthy James McAvoy. Because seriously, nobody wants to date the human embodiment of toilet paper. I’ll take charming smart guys, ymmv.
Feminist: I want a society where women aren’t judged only by their looks and sexual conduct.
MRA: You’re an ugly slut who just wants male attention!!
Actually, he sounds like the (not yet officially recognized) Dark Tetradist. The fourth factor is sadism.
And when the power goes out, Ivan DarkTriadMan will be just another serf being taxed and conscripted and worked to death growing food for the warlord. That’s if he’s lucky, and doesn’t actually become food for the warlord.
I love how these edgelords think being an asshole with an active fantasy life is enough to automatically grant them post-apocalypse sultanhood and access to the harem of their choice. If he’s not at the top now, and can barely tolerate modern day life without his daily internet rage rants, I don’t think the apocalypse is going to be kind to him. It would be interesting to drop this guy in the middle of the north woods in June and watch him try to survive. All the gym lifting and Sun Tzu quotes in the world are useless out in the wild for a person who lacks common sense, maturity, and observational skills.
One also wonders how those giggling selfie teenagers are going to maintain their attractiveness and fertility when there’s no more makeup, no more fashionable clothes, no more skin and hair care products, sporadic food, and primitive health care.
Because pointing out the bad behavior of some men means you forever abdicate your right to find other men attractive.
Got that, everyone? If you find a spot on your banana, you are now officially a banana hater and may not ever eat, or covet, another banana.
Don’t like this gory horror movie with lousy dialogue and bad acting? Well then, you can’t ever go see another one!
Okay, so let’s run this down. If a woman is nice to him, she’s obviously into him. If she ignores him, she’s just trying to conceal her interest in him. And if she engages him hostilely, she must be into him because she obviously wants his attention.
This technique (usually in the form of a coin-toss under the rules, “Heads I win; tails you lose”), often works on 4-year-olds, from what I remember of my brother’s kids growing up. Around 6, they usually have it figured out.
@Buttercup
I originally thought that “after the power goes out” was a metaphor for “underneath it all”. Is he seriously suggesting that there will be an apocalypse soon? And that, from the ashes of our crumbled civilization (I’m trying to sound like a manospherian here), a powerful lord (can’t be a lady; ladies don’t lift) will rise? And that this lord will “fuck all the bishies”? Is that what he’s saying? Because this sounds like a plot for a hentai.
Also, yes, to be on the safe side, when trying to imagine scenarios like this, always imagine that you will suffer the worst possible fate, not the best.
Yeah, every time I read that “power goes out” / “teenage girls” / “naked rears” fantasy, all I can think is, “This guy really, really wishes he could be an ISIS fighter gifted with orphaned child sex slaves.”
I argue with MRA’s online because of others online. I want them to see MRA’s go rabid.
The rhetorical style reminds me strongly of a certain group of dolorous and frothing canines who hijacked the Hugo awards this year — it takes “trying way too hard to sound like an intellectual and failing” to a whole new level of pretentious drivel. The combination of blithering incoherence with florid old-timey word choices like “frippery” is moderately hilarious, I suppose.
Also, did you ever notice how dudes who fantasize about what badasses they’ll be after the apocalypse are inevitably lazy, out-of shape keyboard jockeys? They’re not badasses NOW, what on earth do they think is going to happen after we lose modern technological infrastructure? Warlords and harems — pfft, they’re going to die whimpering with their now-useless gaming consoles clutched to their chests.
The post-civilization game is going to be about 1. Food and clean water, 2. Shelter from the elements, 3. Managing disease and infection.
If the lights really do go out, I’m throwing myself on the mercy of the hippies.
In the unlikely event that Western society collapses any time soon, DarkTriadMan might be disappointed to find that the majority of people will seek to protect the vulnerable and maintain some kind of order.
Civilization didn’t spring out of nowhere, humans early on figured out that they prospered better by cooperation and organization. It’s true we’ve not shaken this bad habit of going to war, but if the system of warlords ruling the land worked best, we’d still have it everywhere. It’s not as if those isolated tribes living in the amazon indulge in non stop orgies of violence, murder and anarchy.
1. I think Dark man was probably thinking the curtain was “tattering”.
2. This theory is new how???
I have a feeling this is one of those guys that uses the word “sheeple”
I originally thought that “after the power goes out” was a metaphor for “underneath it all”. Is he seriously suggesting that there will be an apocalypse soon?
A little of column A, a little of column B. He’s arguing (as reactionaries sometimes do) that the truest, best way of looking at and organizing human behavior is the Hobbesian state of nature: nasty, brutish, and short. Anything that’s happened since the invention of agriculture is just a false veneer preventing us from recognizing that state of nature, which in turn prevents us from realizing our true competitive potential. “After the power goes out” is the time in which all of humanity is forced to confront the state of nature, and the time when the neo-reactionaries’ obsessive contemplation of things like “The True Nature of Women” and “Diversity + Proximity = War” will give them the advantage they need to rally the ignorant masses to their standard. This is all In The Sweet By-And-By, of course. DarkMan doesn’t fancy himself a survivalist of the old school, but he does think that his training in the art of applied charisma and neurolinguistic programming will allow him to bend enough actual survivalists to his will to keep him out of the cold.