Bad news, ladies! Some dude who hates you thinks that you’re incapable of love!
In the Men’s Rights subreddit, a dude calling himself Cerehectus lays out his totally irrefutable argument against the women of the world. He’s a wee bit verbose, so I’ll put the best (i.e. worst) bits in bold.
A relationship in a woman’s mind is almost always an assessment of pros and cons. I don’t believe there is any real love within them. Rather, there is simply validation and security. If she gets bored, she can always trade up or cut loose and be supported. There’s no investment/risk in a woman’s prerogative. Therefor, she doesn’t have to mind her actions or develop a core being/principles.
Oh, you fickle, fickle women and your lack of a core being!
I’m not quite sure what a core being is, exactly, but I’m assuming that not having one is super duper bad.
But in the year 2015 in the United States of America, a relationship is no longer between a male and a female, but between a male and a female with her gynocentric legal and social system. The very system that takes away the power of men to be men; defining how they must behave and the consequences that befall them determined not by choices of their own, but of the female with whom they are in a relationship. The only way for men to protect themselves it to not be involved at all.
If you are going to go your own way, dude, I have several suggestions as to where you might go, and one of them starts with “Snake Island.” Well, it doesn’t really start with that, per se; Snake Island is the entire name.
Why wouldn’t a male want to go play video games, watch sports, and remove himself from a society that is openly hostile towards him? A society that believes he is not a creature unto himself, but a mule for the system itself and the women it favors?
I think it’s safe to say that most guys playing video games aren’t doing it because they think women have no souls. For example, I play Grand Theft Auto V because I like driving cars off of cliffs and not dying.
What are the redeeming qualities of women today?
They are not dependable. They’re not loyal. Very few have any domestic skills (my last girlfriend didn’t even know how to dice an onion, fold a pair of blue jeans, make a tea or how to use a can opener).
Huh. I’m pretty sure that every woman I’ve been involved with has been able to “make a tea” and use a can opener. Were you accidentally dating a blow-up doll?
They’re all on anti-depressants.
Hey, me too! Anti-depressants helped to rescue me from a life of crippling depression.
They’re aloof, narcissistic, and society is built from the ground up to worship them. They are not going to change and become quality people no matter how many liberal arts degrees they have until they learn about cause and effect and that their actions have consequences.
If the consequence of their actions is that guys like you stop pestering them for dates, I’m pretty sure there are very few women out there who would see this as a bad thing.
A female at this point is nothing more than a burden that can take everything if it chooses. In their effort to gain everything they’re going to lose everything.
And one day they will pay!!!! I will perfect my own race of people! A race of atomic supermen which will conquer the wor …
Sorry, I got carried away. It’s just odd that so many MRA and MGTOW speeches on the evils of women end up reminding me of Bela Lugosi’s famous rant in Bride of the Monster.
Given how often I am assured (by MRAs) that MRAs aren’t really the least bit misogynistic, you might expect that Cerehectus’s rant would have been downvoted all to hell. Nope! Last I checked it had nearly three dozen upvotes.
H/T — I think I found this via r/TheBluePill or r/againstmensrights, but I lost the link.
Honestly, I don’t understand what all the fuss is about with this post. Anyone who thinks that the behaviours described are untrue has probably never dated or even met a woman in the Western World over the past 40 years.
What the post suggests is that overall, marriage or romantic relationships are not a very good deal for the vast majority of men any more.
The 80/20 rule of mate selection in women is not a myth, it has been consistently proven in scientific surveys but most major media refuse to acknowledge the facts despite reporting them. It’s not some kind of conspiracy orchestrated by the ‘patriarchal scientific elite’.
And whatever mythology modern day feminists have created over what they call ‘Patriarchy’ it also crumbles on a more rational and detailed analysis. Unless, by ‘patriarchy’ one means the overall way of organising human societies worldwide since the advent of the agricultural revolution. Well, whatever these guys did it worked. Which is why we managed to progress to the point we are today. The truth of the matter is that there are no major examples of highly advanced civilisations that started and remained ‘matriarchies’. And no one has managed to explain how this ‘patriarchal’ take over managed to take place. A worldwide male conspiracy to subjugate all women and somehow men managed to coordinate this everywhere (from the remote jungles of the Amazon to the deserts of Arabia) and this without any modern communications. This is absurd to say the least. No system of ‘abuse’ and ‘slavery’ can survive and thrive for that long unless there are essential advantages to its use. Through thousands of years of trial and error, human communities all over the world have established the social and political organisation that has the most benefits to survival and progress. And this for the most part happened with the consent of all parts (women included).
Now, given the types of comments posted on this site, I expect the negative reaction of people to the points covered above and quite a few ‘ad hominem’ attacks to me personally. But people will try as much as possible to avoid the facts once more.
Over the past few years (esp since 2008 and the Great Crash) a combination of dire prospects both professionally and in the romantic/relationship/dating area (these two usually go together) is causing a lot of men to gradually withdraw from a lot of traditional institutions of society including marriage, higher education and the mainstream professions. Instead of these institutions (plus media and analysts) to spend some time to have a closer look to the causes of this phenomenon, they once more use men as the easy target for vile comments and accusations. They are all ‘lazy, no good, mommy’s boys’ who are ‘afraid of all commitments and adult responsibilities’. Case closed. Let’s go for a beer now. Imagine if someone would do that for any women’s issue or problem. There would be complete moral outrage from all sides.
This is why the phenomenon will continue and intensify as the economy gets worse and what is perceived as hostile attitude towards men just because of the fact that they are men, will continue to exist in the media, academia and the courts of law.
Women will have to get their brains together, think deep and think carefully on what world they want for their fathers, husbands and sons. Otherwise, there will come a day that these men will not even be willing to defend women as soldiers or leaders. Stop making them feel guilty for actions that their long dead ancestors did hundreds of years ago and to which they had no part of contribution.
I think my post is too long already and I will have to stop here. Any rational and well expressed arguments/responses are welcome.
On top of egregious amounts of “female” being thrown around, one thing that particularly stuck out to me was this:
Yeah, no misogyny here at all. Hey, buddy, as somebody else who plays video games I’d appreciate it if you kindly got out and stopped soiling the reputation for everyone else. GribbleGarb has already thrown us back to the mid-’90s, and it’ll probably take another decade to wash away that stink.
Who says ‘blue jeans’?! Judging by that, and the rest of the twaddle he is from the 50s – a whiny 20yo from the 50s!
Hello.
“Momma ? Momma, where are you ?”
Oedipus. Oedipus everywhere.
Well, in fact, it can also be Daddy, because of chore sharing. But maybe not for them ?
Have a nice day.
@Shaenon – That was my thought.
@BritterSweet – That, no lie, made my day and has been saved to my YouTube account.
Isn’t everyone’s relationship like this when first figuring out whether you like that person enough to date them?
Well, yeah. She’s not tied to you forever, dude. Why should anyone put up with feeling “bored” in a relationship? That’s a good sign that the relationship is not a good fit, and the best thing for both partners is to move on.
How are Video Games and Sports not a part of Society? How are they not multi-billion-dollar businesses and cultural touchstones specifically marketed towards men and their money, as “creatures unto themselves”? (And even though Video Games have always been played by feeemales, you just know he doesn’t factor that in to his reasoning, because Sacred Manly Man-cave).
It’s almost become a gender-swapped “A Room Of One’s Own” when it comes to preserving these retreats Away From Society that are Man-space Only. I was thinking about this yesterday, and about how Gentlemen used to belong to various private Clubs, for the purpose of having Man-space. Why don’t they all just join the Man-Boy Scouts and go camping?
@Ellesar – Can you get me the clicker so I can watch the tube? My blue jeans have a rip in them and I don’t want to get up.
…and society is built from the ground up to worship them.
Truth is, worshipping women doesn’t play any kind of role in society-building. You kind of have to have interest in and focus on what you’re building. Case in point, the many inventors that had no interest in the opposite sex and died virgins.
But hey, if everything you’ve done up until this point has revolved around impressing the opposite sex, I suppose you would make the mistake of assuming that’s how everyone has operated all throughout history.
Hahaha, I love how everyone in the comments on that video game console article are arguing that a) it doesn’t count because the women are all single mothers who “own” their kids’ consoles and b) women must be lying about how much they dislike problematic games if they’re the majority of console owners.
Certainly anyone with even a modicum of emotional intelligence who’s capable of thinking through the concept of what a relationship actually IS.
b) women must be lying about how much they dislike problematic games if they’re the majority of console owners.
I <3 how they don't think that people can enjoy media while still wishing that the more problematic elements weren't there.
What’s so very exasperating about reading these whiny MGTOW screeds is the way these guys try to make it sound like they’re “depriving” women of an allegedly great catch. There’s much to be said for choosing singledom – some people struggle to maintain a sense of self in relationships, others are bad at sharing, and some simply function better single – but these MGTOW crybabies are all about the sour grapes. They really want to be in a relationship, but are far too emotionally stunted to accept what that entails, so they’ll just pretend they don’t want one. Loudly and repetitively. All the while proving that they shouldn’t be in a relationship anyway. Fear, projection, immense self-loathing – it’s all on display here.
I’ve been crossing off “I’m just an old-fashioned gentleman” when I hear those. Maybe I need a newer set:
http://hoydenabouttown.com/2007/04/14/anti-feminist-bingo-a-master-class-in-sexual-entitlement/
Pretty clear that this dude is pissed some girlfriend of his didn’t want to fold his jeans and cook his food for the rest of her life.
Well, I don’t doubt none of them have ever been around a woman who loves them.
b) women must be lying about how much they dislike problematic games if they’re the majority of console owners.
By this logic, gamers must like the ending of Mass Effect 3 if they kept playing it after the ending was spoiled. Clearly, playing a game is equivalent to approving of every aspect of it, so gamers who complain about bad endings, poor gameplay, glitchiness, etc. must be lying if they still play that game.
The “women have no real love/soul” thing seems to be related to the “women’s brains are infantile, that why they cry all the time” meme I see on every gender-related Ted talk video on Youtube.
Uhh… In addition to all the other logical failures already mentioned, just because they own a console doesn’t mean they own the specific game in question. Or that their console is even the one the game is on. There’s more than one console and they don’t come prepacked with every game ever made, dudebros.
you know in the many times I’ve eaten food with diced onions, from my grannies home cooking as an 8yo to restaurants, to date nights to my own, I have never for the life if me never noticed the size of the onion dices. how very observant of him.
also I’m more than happy to join the lady parts appreciation club, unfortunately I can’t give free stuff other than bits adoration, cos I’m skint.
Paradoxy:
I believe you may be right. Also, I wonder about this guy’s house and its proximity to the beach.
Also: yay! You’re back on youtube! And boo! I can’t watch it, because I haven’t played Binding yet!
How dare women take medication of help with any emotional or mental maladies. MRAs prefer their women depressed, insecure, anxious, and paranoid, just like God intended.
It’s particularly obtuse given how much geeks in particular will obsess over a small flaw in a generally acceptable entry into their genre. There’s entire YouTube channels dedicated to nothing but examining the minutae of Star Trek continuity and science errors (let alone disliked characters). I like Voyager, even if I think that Neelix should’ve been lost to an ‘airlock accident’ two episodes after he was introduced, and that Threshold should never be considered canon; it’s just a fever-dream Paris has after eating some of Neelix’s cooking.
It’s not that women don’t enjoy games; it’s that they would enjoy them MORE if these things were not present, asswipes.
It better be DIRECTLY on the beach, or else he won’t have anything to feel superior over.
And oh noes! To be fair, the only thing you can spoil in the game is the various levels and items. There’s not really a story beyond the traditional Isaac story of “religious parent wants to serve their God, God says ‘hey, kill your kid for me to prove yourself’ and parent goes ‘k'”.
So if you’re worried about that, then I would say watch it anyways, but if you’re worried about spoiling new items, then don’t.
@The idea that feminists can’t like media if they criticize it: I’ll stop linking this when it stops being relevant.
My ex used to scream at me for not folding his tee shirts properly because laundry was my job – basically because he said so. He had reasons, though; he just shouldn’t have to say what they were cause I should just know. I’m so glad that everyone here seems to notice how this guy’s rant sounds suspiciously like a lot of projection.
“There’s no investment/risk in a woman’s prerogative.” Hmmm. I invested 35 years of my life. I risked my health, happiness, and sanity and mostly lost.
“They are not going to change and become quality people . . . until they learn about cause and effect and that their actions have consequences.” I know all about consequences. I faced consequences for everything, no matter how trivial or well-intentioned. My ex will not accept that I don’t want to be with him and that his kids don’t have much use for him anymore because he cheated, lied, and abused his family for so many years. He seems to feel that he should never, ever have to face the consequences of his actions, but I should face terrible consequences for not enjoying his bullying or stalking behaviors.