Far-right weirdos boycotting Seth Rogen’s Xmas flick because he’s a “cuck,” allegedly

Oops, I meant to type scalyllama, sorry.

(Oh, and is it just me, or does anyone else find the whole “cuck” thing to be reminiscent of someone pretending to be a chicken? “cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck… brawk!”

“Oh look, he’s laid an egg.”

“Funny, I didn’t know roosters could do that.”

“Oh, it’s even better – this one’s a capon.”)

I am also among the people who hears “cuck” and thinks of chicken sounds.

Oh good, so it’s not just me, then!

Good God.

These people’s perceptions of reality are so ingrown that not all the tweezers in the world could get them out.

I’m also imagining a mysterious spike of popcorn orders being sent to the Rogen household, because that’s the only way I can see them dealing with this.

Hey, extreme right-wingers, thanks for those tweets telling me who to hate.

Nathan Braun (nice flag, guy!), you mentioned someone named Chirst. Is that Jesus Chirst? I think that’s spelled Christ. Anyway, did you know that Jesus Christ was a Jew? Did you know that his mother and his father and his siblings and all the Apostles were Jews? Did you know that most of his disciples were Jews? Weird, huh?

Also, did you know that Jesus says to love your enemies (Matthew 5:44)? It’s just getting weirder and weirder, isn’t it?

So I have to wonder, if Jesus came back today and made a movie, would you call for its boycott?

Hey, extreme right-wingers, me again. I wanted to elaborate on my last question.

So I have to wonder, if Jesus came back today and made a movie about his own birth, would you call for its boycott?

I don’t go to the cinema. A weird true fact about me is that I don’t really like film all that much. So I won’t be going to see this movie. Or the new Star Wars. Or the Mad Max film…or any of the others that they’re boycotting for silly reasons. But every time I see one of these ‘boycotts’ it makes me vaguely tempted to break my cinema-fast. But then I think…meh.

@Kat
I imagine so.
Jesus: “Welcome foreigners among you.”
Them: “WHITE GENOCIDE CONSPIRACY!!!!”
Jesus: “Treat others as you want to be treated.”
Them: “SOCIALISM!!!”
Jesus: *hangs out with women like equals*
Them: “FEMINAZI WHITE KNIGHT!!!” *rage spittle*

Weirdly enough, I saw a use of the word “cuck” that had nothing to do with this crap.

The Changeling: The Dreaming RPG book about the Nocker fae– tinkers and inventors with a tendency (if not a flat-out compulsion) to swear a blue streak– had an illustration of a rather dignified Nocker lady saying “Cuck” in a fancily-scripted speech balloon. This book came out in 1997 and I don’t think White Wolf games knew about the manosphere– I suspect they were just using it as a euphemism (as it looks like a portmanteau of cock/cunt/fuck).

Something I’ve always found odd about the alt right set is that for all they rant about “anti-Christian” whatever, they never actually seem all that invested in the religion. You never see them talking about going to church, or teaching their kids’ Sunday school classes, or quoting Bible verses, or really any of the other things associated with displaying Christian faith. It’s like they’re just invested in the *idea* of what Christianity *might* represent (namely, Us, as opposed to Them), not the actual practice.

Yeah, I agree. I’ve been a Christian all my life, and only a feminist for part of it, but it always blows my mind to see these dudes invoking Christianity in their arguments. I’ve attended church in several different denominations, and had friends in a whole lot more denominations, friends who were Protestant and Catholic, conservatives and liberals. There’s been an ample assortment of good, bad, and bizarre people all along the way. But the sort of bile that these dudes are spewing looks nothing like anyone I have ever met.

Some of my friends have even been the paranoid “ZOMG WAR ON CHRISTMAS” type people. Some of them might have gone on righteously indignant blogging sprees, “Ugh, Seth Rogen is doing something blasphemous in a movie. How dare he! Boycott!” But none of them would have connected that to whiteness, and they certainly wouldn’t have chalked it up to a massive Jewish conspiracy to take over the world. If anything, the more conservative my friends are, the more pro-Jewish they tend to be.

I don’t know how you can go on a profanity-filled angry rant about how much you hate everybody who isn’t exactly like you, how much you lust after (and hate) women, give a call for violent actions, and then claim that you value Christianity. On paper, those are completely incompatible ideas. To me, combined with tessarion’s points above, Occam’s razor suggests that most of these guys probably don’t actually value Christianity, except inasmuch as it is a stand-in to them for “1950’s good-old-days whitewashed Americana”. They cling to it as a cultural marker, but don’t actually understand or practice it. This is why they also get confuse “Jewish” and “Muslim” with racial identities, totally for reals separated from True Whiteness. They don’t give a rip about the religions, except as a red flag for identifying someone who isn’t like them, someone to persecute and then scream about being persecuted by.

To be perfectly clear, I’m positive that there are, in fact, people who stay up late putting anti-Semitic garbage on the internet Saturday night, and then show up smiling to church on Sunday morning. Especially considering the amount of anti-Semitism (and violence) that shows up in church history, I’m not going to pretend that no practicing Christian could possibly hold such noxious beliefs. There’s something like 200 million of us just in the USA, so there’s no way we don’t have toxic people in our ranks.

But even accounting for the most unreasonable, paranoid fundamentalists I’ve known IRL, this sort of Jewish-illuminati-tinfoil-hat swill sounds completely alien to me. It’s the same kind of mental disconnect I feel when I see some blogger claiming to be a woman and ranting about how much better life would be if we were the literal legal property of our fathers and husbands. Like, I’m sure that there ARE women who believe that, because the world is too big and too weird to think otherwise, but it is so far outside of my own beliefs, and the beliefs of anyone I’ve ever known, that I can’t wrap my brain around how it could be A Thing.

See, to me it seems obvious that she’s responding to the accusation that she wouldn’t fuck her husband by saying that she WOULD indeed fuck him. I mean, Cernovich isn’t the only one tagged…

Jew isn’t a race either, it’s a religion FFS.

Also, i still don’t really get what they mean with cuckservative. Can some kind soul plz explain????

@gosuamakenatek

There’s so much overlap between MRA types and white supremacist types that they’re basically just a big amorphous blob of ugliness and hate at this point, like a shoggoth, except they probably smell worse.

Did anyone else notice that when Forney said this (emphasis mine):

[t]he popularity of #BoycottTheNightBefore and #CuckRogen displays how much power the alternative right and neomasculinity has in shaping the public discourse.

he was directly associating white supremacist garbage with his idea of what a man should be? You’re not the only one who has trouble keeping the white supremacists and the MRAs apart. The bigots themselves seem to believe you can’t have one without the other.

The other implication of Forney’s statement is that he believes maleness and whiteness are linked, so you can’t truly be a man if you’re a man of colour. Which… yup, totally jives with what I know about Matt Forney.