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An Open Letter to Cassie Jaye, director of The Red Pill

Paul Elam: Subject of, and fundraiser for, Cassie Jaye's The Red Pill, in a shot from a preview of the film
Paul Elam: Subject of, and fundraiser for, Cassie Jaye’s The Red Pill, in a shot from a preview of the documentary

UPDATE 10/25/16: If you’ve come here after reading about a petition to cancel screenings of The Red Pill, I ask you to NOT sign any such petitions. It’s just free publicity for them. Read more of my thoughts on the matter here

Dear Cassie Jaye,

Congratulations. You surpassed your Kickstarter fundraising goal yesterday, more than two weeks before the Kickstarter campaign was scheduled to come to a close. You’ve funded the postproduction work on your long-delayed documentary on Men’s Rights activists, and then some.

But I’m not sure that the person I should be congratulating is you. Last night Paul Elam of A Voice for Men – the central subject of your film – was doing his own victory lap online. And no wonder, because he seems to be the real victor here.

In a post on his site that managed to be giddy and vindictive at once, he offered his congratulations to you, then, well, to himself. “Even though the victory goes to Ms. Jaye,” he wrote, in an awkward attempt at modesty, “I have the need to offer up some thanks.”

And then he spelled out why he thinks your “victory” is really a victory for him.

For the past six years AVFM has had mud kicked in its face by a corrupt, left-wing media. Bottom feeders like Adam Serwer, Jeff Sharlet and Mariah Blake have performed endless unscrupulous acts, directly lying to their readers in order to attack AVFM, this movement and me personally.

Their work was not just to harm me, or to damage a website but to make sure if they could that the message we carry never found its way to the larger public. Their intent was and is to paint an indelible stain on all of us so hideous that we would never be taken seriously by enough people to matter.

They have failed, and I can now predict that they have failed miserably.

In other words, Paul Elam thinks he and his friends in what he ludicrously calls the “Men’s Human Rights Movement” have bought and paid for a feature-length advertisement for them.

And it’s not hard to see why Elam – and the other manospherians who’ve rallied around your film in recent days — think this. After all, they are the ones who have rescued your film from oblivion by pouring tens of thousands of dollars into your Kickstarter.

And all it took for you to unleash this torrent of money was an interview with one of the sleaziest figures in right-wing journalism, Milo Yiannopoulos of Breitbart.

In the interview, posted on Monday, you complained that “I won’t be getting support from feminists. They want a hit piece and I won’t do that.”

There was more than a little bit of irony in the fact that you were saying this to a man infamous for his many hit pieces on so-called “Social Justice Warriors.”

You also complained about an intern on your film who, you said, “had a lot of crying attacks and emotional experiences. She claimed everything I was showing her was triggering her.”

A young feminist “triggered” and crying. This is red meat to the Breitbart crowd, and I have to assume you knew this when you told Milo this story.

To an outside observer like me, this shameful pandering looks a lot like a Hail Mary play on your part. Having failed to convince most potential funders of the film that you would present anything close to an accurate picture of the Men’s Rights movement, you told Breitbart what its readers – and the broader manosphere – wanted to hear.

And it worked. Men’s Rights activists, self-professed “Red Pillers” and other assorted antifeminists rallied around your film, and the money started flowing.

On Reddit, the moderators of the Men’s Rights subreddit “stickied” an appeal to donate to your Kickstarter to the top of their front page, urging MRAs to open their wallets in order to show skeptics that “we can take part in some actual activism and not just post stuff in here.”

Even the regulars in the violently misogynistic Red Pill subreddit agreed to help bankroll your film.

And it wasn’t just Men’s Rights and “Red Pill” Redditors who organized support for your film. One right-wing Red Pill blogger, notorious for his harassment of ideological enemies, pledged to match donations up to $10,000, describing your documentary as “the Movie SJWs Do Not Want You to See.”

Meanwhile, on her blog, AVFM’s “social media director” Andrea Hardie (an internet bully better known under her pseudonyms Janet Bloomfield and “Judgy Bitch”) not only rallied her readers around your Kickstarter but also set up a gofundme of her own, raising money in hopes that it would buy Breitbart’s Yiannopoulos a producer credit in your film. (I hope that is out of the question, even if she raises more than the paltry amount she’s raised for this purpose so far.)

And then there was Elam himself, on Twitter, calling on his followers to, in his words, “Help fund #RedPillMovie because fuck feminists!”

https://twitter.com/AVoiceForMen/status/658700057311506432

Accepting money from these people would seem to be a pretty clear violation of the principles you set forth in your own Kickstarter video, in which you declared that

in order to keep this film non-partisan, and respectfully show all sides to this debate, we won’t accept funding from organizations that inevitably have biased agendas.

Instead, you have chosen to take money from people who see your film as a chance to say “fuck you” to feminists. You have chosen to take money from the actual subjects of your film.

You are making a film about Men’s Rights Activists, funded to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars by Men’s Rights Activists. You are making a film about A Voice for Men funded in part by A Voice for Men.

Does that not trouble you at all? It should. In your interview with Breitbart, you noted that “films that support one side and act as propaganda do better than those that try to have an honest look.”

You said this, presumably, to set yourself apart from such propagandists. Now you seem to have cast your lot in with them.

Which I suppose makes sense, since the clips of your film that you’ve posted online so far look a lot more like propaganda than they do like any sort of honest look at the Men’s Rights movement,

I felt uneasy about your project from the start, concerned that you had been pulled in by the soothing but misleading rhetoric that MRAs spout when they are trying to sound more respectable than they really are, rather than on what MRAs actually say and do when the cameras are off of them.

But I knew you had a good reputation as a filmmaker, and heard good things from several feminists who knew you better than I did. So I held my tongue and tried my best to give you the benefit of the doubt, even when you posted clips from your film that portrayed AVFMers as heroic underdogs rather than the misogynists and malicious harassers that they really are.

When I wrote you a little over a week ago with some of my concerns, you assured me in the phone call that followed that the clips you had posted were only part of the story, that you were well aware that the MRAs you had interviewed were on their best behavior when talking to you, and that the real story of the Men’s Rights movement is far less rosy-hued. Against my better judgement, I continued to hold on to some kind of hope that you would live up to your reputation in the end.

And now, frankly, I feel like I’ve been played.

Unfortunately, it looks like you have been played too, much more spectacularly than I have. I suspect you are doing far more damage to your reputation than you even know.

One thing I have learned in five years of watching, and writing about, and dealing with, the Men’s Rights movement, is that if Paul Elam is happy about something, that thing is almost certainly terrible.

I suspect, sadly, that you will ultimately learn this lesson yourself, the hard way.

PS: In our phone conversation, you suggested that if you were able to fund your film, you might be able to finally film the interview with me that we originally had planned to do, but which fell through due to financial and other practical obstacles during the original filming of The Red Pill. At this point, I am sorry to say, that is completely out of the question.

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katz
katz
9 years ago

A lot of people will watch this movie

Assumes facts not in evidence.

littleknown
littleknown
9 years ago

m wrote:

A lot of people will watch this movie and they will think again. And there is nothing you can do about it. I am delighted to see that you are in agony about it. Delighted.

Have you ever actually read what goes on in The Red Pill subreddit? Do you really think it would be good for your “cause” for your festering subculture of misogynistic assholes constantly ranting about how women are “hypergamous sluts” who need strong men to keep them from sleeping with “Chad Thundercock”, lest they ruin themselves by not finding the right Red Piller before they turn 30, hits “the wall”, and suddenly become completely unattractive to all of these totally nice guys…to be more exposed to mainstream society?

Your culture and all of the “values” it is built upon are rotten to the core. It’s completely embarrassing to Cassie Jaye that she was snookered by the likes of Paul Elam and Warren Farrell talking to her in calm voices. The fact that it never occurred to her that there are really good reasons for feminists to angrily protest movements by men such as Paul “I will never vote guilty if on a jury for a man accused of rape, no matter the evidence” Elam and Warren “women have all the true power because they control the sex” Farrell will do lasting damage to her career (outside of making puff pieces for the new misogynist movement).

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

A lot of people will watch this movie and they will think again. And there is nothing you can do about it. I am delighted to see that you are in agony about it. Delighted.

(points and laughs at the bozo)

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

m | October 30, 2015 at 1:39 pm
A lot of people will watch this movie and they will think again. And there is nothing you can do about it. I am delighted to see that you are in agony about it. Delighted.

Wasn’t that what people at AVfM said about Jeff Shartlet coming to write an article about them?

That they were very delighted to have a journalist from a well-known magazine like GQ come in and write about them and how awesome they are? And then he wrote the article, and they lost their shit because they thought it was a hit piece instead of him just reporting on what he saw?

dhag85
dhag85
9 years ago

Jeff Shartlet

what have you done

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Today I learned that mocking the manurespherians for thinking that raising a few grand on Kickstarter to make a crappy documentary nobody will watch is some sort of grand victory that turn the world MRA is being in agony.

What would we ever do without MRAs to tell us what we think and how we feel?

Tim Shepard
Tim Shepard
9 years ago

Evil loves the Darkness, bring on the light!

Kat
Kat
9 years ago

@Tim Shepard

Evil loves the Darkness, bring on the light!

You took the words right out of my mouth. Elam & Co. are doing victory laps now because they know they won’t be doing any victory laps once the film is released. No matter how much Cassie Jaye panders to them — if she does pander to them — they won’t be happy because the average non-MRA viewer will respond with “Ick.” There simply is no way to hide their lies, BS, threats, harassment, brigading, intimidation, insults, gaslighting, and all-around bad-guyism.

@m

A lot of people will watch this movie and they will think again. And there is nothing you can do about it. I am delighted to see that you are in agony about it. Delighted.

Ha, ha, ha. The average non-MRA viewer will indeed think again — or perhaps think about the MRM for the first time. You won’t be happy with the reaction.

And your “delight” about our supposed “agony” is creepy. You should get another hobby, one that doesn’t involve living beings.

Fabe
Fabe
9 years ago

Seeing as she was probably the one who cleaned the bathroom and did the laundry…don’t blame her for demanding he take that anti-diarrhea medicine as a condition of continuing to live under her roof, but if mom was so horrible why didn’t he just go live with his dad?

If you where to ask him his answer would probably be something along the lines of the evil feminist controlled family courts force him to .

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
9 years ago

@Fabe

He’s much too old for that to be the case. (Snorks) Evil feminist controlled courts. I’d ask him that question but I 1.) am not a masochist and 2.) am having too much fun making up possible answers – evil feminist space aliens, the katie-borg, etc.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
9 years ago

Oh no, evil feminists have ruled over men since the days of the mammoth. Why, just the last century those evil feminists were sittin’ pretty after sending all men to war. Evil feminists have had all the courts and all the governments forever and a day. But men totally invented the world so it’s unfair. Therefor ‘MHRM’.

Joe
Joe
9 years ago

David? Outside observer? RLY?

Kat
Kat
9 years ago

Right, Joe, you hit the nail on the head. David’s no outside observer. He’s helping Cassie Jaye make that film.

Thanks for letting the world know about this (formerly) super-secret plot.

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Shorter all our drive-by trolls: Fap fap fap fap fap.

jalbowicz
9 years ago

I donated $100 to the movie, and I thought I would tell you guys why. I’m an advocate for family law reform, perhaps a “Father’s Rights Activist”. what is going on in the family courts is truly sad, no one is happy: men, women nor children. every time I think I will stop advocating, I get dragged back to court for something which reminds me how broken the system it really is. To all the men out there know this: if you ever step foot in family court as a father you will most likely not get custody of your kids simply because you are male and you will have to pay $100s to $1,000s per month to your Ex. To all the Moms out there, do you want your sons to be a second class citizen in family court, be prevented from seeing your eventual grand children? An irony that I see is that paternal grandmothers are among the most active members of Father’s Rights movements. For the most part guys just want to be left alone and not deal with this shit, and that’s the reality and a significant reason why guys get shafted in family court (not because there is some grand feminist conspiracy).

msplasmatic
9 years ago

Re jalowicz: To be honest, I would fight tooth and nail to keep my daughter away from her father if he were mixed up with Red Pill nonsense and the MRA. Those guys are full of toxic attitudes towards women, so no way in hell would I willingly allow them to project those onto an innocent child. It’s not hard to see why some of these dudes have been denied visitation, if their posts to strangers on the internet are any indication of their overall personality.

So you’re a ‘Fathers Rights Activist’ admittedly supporting a vile, hate group frequented by raving misogynists. I probably wouldn’t shout that out too loud mate. That $100 could have actually been to put towards something worthwhile.

André (@AndreMurgo)
9 years ago

Well… the project would be funded on feminist money, if the feminists dared to fund it. They had plenty of opportunity and time. Heck, before Kickstarter she tried to get it funded with plenty of institutions. You can’t whine about it being funded on MRA money.

Dink Hrant
Dink Hrant
9 years ago

Do you not think feminist ideology is toxic for young men msplasmatic?

Jen
Jen
9 years ago

TL;DR: “Stupid woman – how dare you have your own opinions. Listen to meeeeeeeeee.”

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Jalbowicz,
The idea that courts stop fathers from seeing their kids is pretty well debunked. Mothers get primary custody because they seek it. Although fucked up things happen because judges have so much discretion and they are fallible, in general, courts will not usually completely separate kids from one of their parents unless that parent is really a threat to the children’s safety.

Even if the supposed bias against fathers weren’t exaggerated, what do you imagine red pillers do about it? How does talking about how awful women are help anything?

Andre,
You are misreading the tone around here. We aren’t whining. We’re saying that the quality of the documentary will suffer if she’s beholden to MRAs.

chris
chris
9 years ago

How stupid do you have to be to really believe that people donating through kickstarter will have any say in what happens in the documentary?

dhag85
dhag85
9 years ago

There’s just no point an MRA won’t miss, is there?

Faint Praise
Faint Praise
9 years ago

Andre, I assure you feminists have funded plenty of coverage of the manosphere. This has nothing to do with ‘daring to fund it.”

As far as I know there weren’t any huge feminist drives to fund her other films either. Only this one is being warped into a conspiracy though because, well, anti-feminists are suckers.

dhag85
dhag85
9 years ago

I don’t think anybody even knew about this project until Breitbart/Milo wrote about it?

Amy
Amy
9 years ago

I read some of the her posts, and I find it a little scary just how delusional some people can be and how masterful they are at twisting the truth. Personally I don’t know how I would respond if it were me in your position and I’m glad you manage to keep calm (or so you sound) in the midst of a swirling pool of collective insanity.

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