“Women don’t need good chord progressions,” and other ways the ladies are destroying culture by being ladies

Filtering through our v-jays? Video jockeys? Is Wild Man just annoyed at Carson Daly from his TRL days?

Normatively I think a lot of ladies think you make no sense or valid points.

@wwth Minneapolis minds think alike!

@weirwoodtreehugger

I was using something from the top of my head that was “something a grown man should be watching other than a 22 minute commercial to sell toys.” I get a lot of flak at college for not watching Game of Thrones. I heard the books were better than the show though.

Why is it that those who worry about the livelihoods of people who spout racist and homophobic garbage all day never seem to worry about the careers of the people of colour and gay people work with or for the homophobic racists?

Bryce: Short answer, yes, it is worth it. It’s worth it because the targeted people (note that this was part of a pattern of conduct, not even just a single incident) have the right to not have to put up with that shit in their day-to-day affairs, It’s worth it because there’s generally no other way to get shitheads to stop being shitty–they only respond to authority, in this case, their supervisor. If they were inclined to gentle persuasion, they would already be non-shitty people.

“Women put their feelings at the centre of every situation”

“All of you women have a responsibility to make me feel good, even when I’m saying nasty things to you”

That “wild man” individual seem significant denser than a neutron star. However, it’s likely an act, since he seem able to remember how to breath.

The fun part is that, even though he try to put an act and provoke people, his lack of intelligence still show. While I can chalk his style to not being an english native, he base his answers on a flimsy script who is shoehorned into the situation and use sweeping generalization because he is unable to deal with what is actually going on. Not to mention that his approach to the reality is so out of touch with reality that it would make weep a monk scholar from the middle age.

Freaking blockquote mammoth.

If David’s chords are supposed to spell something or play a specific tune, I don’t get it.

E-C#m-A-B is a I-vi-IV-V progression in the key of E. It’s a more modern, 1980s-and-later progression (versus the standard 1950s progression I-IV-V). A lot of songs use it – “With Or Without You” by U2, “She Will Be Loved” by Maroon 5, “Don’t Stop Believing” by Journey, “B-Day Song” by Madonna.

No idea what C-B-F is. F and B are about as dissonant as you can get. It’s an augmented 4th (three full steps), also known as the “devil’s interval”. You hear it a lot in jazz, death metal music, and Wagner’s Tristan chord. I’m assuming, in David’s example, that the woman is telling the man in no uncertain terms to “F off”. (ha, see what I did there?)

…I may have overanalyzed that too much.

Gotta love how many ‘arguments’ put forth by sexist asshats boils down to “men and women are just different, you see, men do all the important shit and have all the clever skills, while women do all the frivolous shit and have all the useless skills. See? Totally fair!”

Also, are men the paragons of manly logic or are they ‘naturally inclined’ to see the big picture? I ask, because those are two COMPLETELY different skillsets (namely divergent thinking vs convergent thinking). Furthermore, being able to ‘look at the big picture’ is an emotional process, not a logical one. To be able to look at a viewpoint other than your own requires a person to have a high level of empathy and emotional intelligence (pattern recognition and other logical skills can get in the way and obfuscate the big picture). So by their own sexist logic of ‘women being all about the feels’, then that means women ‘should’ be FAR more likely to be able to look at the big picture. (obviously this is not the case as every single person on the fucking planet is capable of rational thinking and expressing emotions to some degree)

Ladies (not all of you but most of you), I get the sense that you are filtering your responses through you v-jays, for some “feels” before looping back to your brains, for final output. To be expected and so I won’t take your comments too personally.

Translation: I cannot fathom the idea that my preconceived notions about women are not true, so I’m just going to condescendingly gaslight the shit of everyone who responded to me.

It would be more positive for all concerned though if you would use you “feels” power to project some kindness into the environment.

Awww, it’s the classic “women’s job is to be supportive and nice and agreeable” sexism.

It is obvious to all that your powers can alternatively be used to create a positive influence.

And that’s exactly what’s happening. A “positive influence” involves tearing down bullshit preconcieved notions of gender and showing that you, a sexist idiot, are full of shit.

Like I said earlier healthy men very much appreciate the power of the feminine.

Yeah, telling women how they are supposed to act based on their gender and throwing a hissy fit for any sort of entertainment that DARES showcase the lives of women is totally “appreciating the power of the feminine”.

I prefer the feminine-positivity and am puzzled when this doesn’t occur
(however the negative outcome is the norm isn’t it?).

Of course you do, it’s a lot easier for you to live your life assuming that women must be subserviant and emotionally supportive.

Could it be a matter of emphasis? Could it be that your “feels” power is used too much in the service of the primacy of importance of your own personal feelings in most any circumstance?

Actually the true answer is even more shocking and surprising than that. It turns out that – wait for it – women are people! People generally tend to care about their personal feelings (example: You, right now, care only about your self and your own view of the world to the point where you’re literally dismissing all evidence to the contrary)

Instead of going deeper into feeling like I am disrespecting you (I am not),

HAHAHAHA. So you come in here, condescendingly address the “ladies” in the room, ignore EVERY SINGLE person who gave you a response, said that “I get the sense that you are filtering your responses through you v-jays” then declare that you are not disrespecting anyone!? Please add “disrespecting” to the list of words that you need to look up in the dictionary.

I would appreciate it if you would just try to self-reflect a bit, and consider if anything I am saying here has any merit with respect to yourself personally.

Actually you are the one who needs to self-reflect a bit. I mean, you’ve had several people from completely different places across the world and from all walks of life, each telling you why your preconceived notions about women are completely wrong.

Everybody can benefit from more self-awareness (men generally and myself included).

Actions speak louder than words. So far every single person that responded to you is about 100 times more self-aware than you are. And if you do genuinely believe you can benefit from self-awareness then might I suggest you don’t begin your post by declaring that “I get the sense that you are filtering your responses through you v-jays”?

I am not without fault. Perhaps I am a bit less narcissistic but more egotistical? I could agree to that.

Egotistical, disrespectful, disingenuous, incapable of thinking rationally, condescending, incapable of actually responding to arguments, sexist, patronizing. That’s just the tip of the iceberg of your list of faults.

Normatively (geez I like that word!) I think men are more outwardly aggressive than women – and a healthy dose of ego supports that.

Funny because I’m a man and I hate violence and physical conflicts. Your gender stereotypes about men are just as faulty as your stereotypes about women.

It is double edged swords all around – best if we appreciate the differences, and use our strengths collectively, in support of the greater good.

The ‘greater good’ is actually realizing that gender stereotypes about “masculine” and “feminine” behavior are complete bullshit and marginalizes anyone who doesn’t fit the bill. Which is to say most people.

Gotta love how you manage to say some hilariously offensive sexist bullshit then act like you’re rallying us for a cause. One that we’re all perfectly capable of handling without any of your so-called “help”

I’ve been reading here for a while and just reading because everyone here does such a magnificent job shredding misogynist (among other shitty prejudices) behavior and pontificating to shreds. Why restate?

But this try-hard troll in this comment thread got me thinking. If called on this in real life, no doubt he’d claim he didn’t mean any of it and he was just trying to get a rise out of “those humorless feminists”. Which is garbage, because deciding a forum is so meaningless that disrupting it is a worthwhile task is a value judgment. I’m sure even if he’d claim others, the choice to target this website is a fair indicator that he means the venom behind the words, even if he doesn’t believe in the argument.

That said, I love when misogynists like this creep post. By laying out common manosphere arguments, which inevitably get destroyed thoroughly, an important service happens. I’m sure the people who come here to troll think they “win” because they made people pay attention to their asinine arguments. That they successfully derailed a conversation. Except the things they spout off are EXACTLY what this site combats! It only furthers the mission of the website! Sure, going into a CNN article or a sports article or into a trauma survivor’s forum and saying that crap might serve as a distraction to cause the board to fall into dysfunction. But here, it’s just giving people the opportunity to eviscerate poorly thought out ideas. And all the people like me who lurk – and there are a lot of us – we get new ammunition for us to tear down these attitudes when we encounter them elsewhere.

Thanks, MRAs and fellow travelers! I appreciate you creating the conditions to further expose you as the bigots you are under all the assfacts and pseudo-intellectualism. While you pat yourself on the back for causing “epic lulz” and causing frustration (minor frustration, an annoyance soon forgotten), you’re helping scores of people learn how to disassemble sexist bullshit! GOOD JORB!

Actually you are the one who needs to self-reflect a bit. I mean, you’ve had several people from completely different places across the world and from all walks of life, each telling you why your preconceived notions about women are completely wrong.

And most sexist shitbags don’t get such a luxury, you hear troll? So you should be grateful.

*applause for Moocow*