“Women don’t need good chord progressions,” and other ways the ladies are destroying culture by being ladies

Gah. Sorry again. I thought it went to moderation, but apparently it didn’t. :/ Well, now I can apologize for the undoubtable double posting.

um, Is it really worth putting someone’s job in jeopardy over “Dr Von Poofie”?

@misseb47 – I agree with what the other commenters have said, and only have this to add: I *definitely* would not bring it up to either of the men across the way whom your coworker is making fun of. Even if it *would* shame your coworker into easing off the racist jokes (and I suspect it wouldn’t), it would do so at the expense of someone who probably didn’t need or want to be reminded that there are racist poopheads in the world, and that those racist poopheads say racist-poopheady things about him just for existing.

Start documenting the incidents, if you haven’t already–including what your coworker is saying, how long it’s been going on, and if/when/how you have asked him to knock it off–and bring it up to the appropriate supervisor.

@Bryce

Why should other people lie to protect a bigot at work?

I will rephrase my premise in less volatile terms.

No one said you were being volatile. People are saying that you are wrong.

In my experience, normatively, women tend to behave as if their own personal feelings are of primary importance in any circumstance.

I have known way, wayyyy too many selfless, humble, level-headed, and/or deferential women to believe this for a moment. I have also known way, wayyyy too many men who are prone to explosive anger, bruised egos, and impulsive decisions to believe this for a moment.

It’s almost like people are extremely complex and cannot be generalized as being similar to a whole half of humanity at once.

This is a normative issue (i.e.- there are wide individual differences) and as such, men are also subject to this, but normatively, they are less so subjected to this way of relating. There will be a greater tendency, normatively, for men to seek the many perspectives so as to formulate the bigger picture (once again with a wide variation of individual differences among men, and among women for this propensity). I don’t know why this dynamic exists, but it isn’t hard to see that it does. Agreed?

No, I do not agree. I see no pattern of women being more driven by or irrational about their feelings than men are. See: every mass shooting in the past year. See also: Gamergate. See also: the entirety of the Red Pill online presence.

There are probably all kinds of theories about it (especially within the field of evolutionary psychology) that may or may not accurately describe how this came to be but it really doesn’t matter as long as we agree that this dynamic does indeed exist (who knows maybe it is just socially conditioning as one of you has suggested).

Except it does matter, because if it is social conditioning, then we have a prime opportunity to improve our culture so that men and women alike can feel like they are allowed to respectfully, authentically express their emotions, and so that neither men nor women feel like their emotions outweigh the rights of other human beings to exist and to have representation in media.

So given the above, the next point is that some people think that media content-providers seem to be increasingly catering to the woman’s more feeling based mindset. I think there is some evidence for this.

If by “increasingly”, you mean going from “almost never passing the Bechdel Test” to “Oh wow, more than one movie this year actually passed the Bechdel Test”, then I guess so. Except for the “feeling-based mindset” thing; that part is still silly.

However, third point given the above, it is completely natural that some men will call out the content-providers on this. Human nature after all. Once again I’m not making a judgement on this good or bad (only – human nature to say – hey – what about me?).

Except it’s pretty petulant to be saying, “Hey, what about me” when the media has gone from being 99% catered to you to only 90% catered to you. It is even more petulant when it springs from an assumption that every uninspired, cheesy, soulless piece of pop culture must be because women have ruined it, when the truth is that just as many women dislike uninspired, cheesy, soulless stuff as men do.

I don’t think I implied anything more than the above in my original post.

No, this is pretty much exactly what you said in your original post, and repeating it with an added dose of condescension doesn’t magically make people stop disagreeing with it.

Can anyone who knows about commerce answer this for me?

Is there a shift towards catering more for women in entertainment and media?

And, if so, is that an additional market or a shift in the existing market?

By which I mean, let’s say there were 100 films or video games that catered for men last year but this year there are 10 films/games aimed at women. Is the market 110 films or do the women’s share eat into the bloke’s share so the guys have to make do with 90 films/games.

In other words are we divvying up a finite pie differently or just making more pie?

Hello.

@dhag85
Hope you are going fine.
Well, this it terrible, indeed. And i do not understand why this kind of people who are fearing “foreigner terrorist attacks” are also the ones who are the more prone (proner ?) to commit attack in their own country. Is it part paranoïa, part indoctrination ? Can not tell.

Have a nice day.

Wahhhh! There are things in the media which don’t cater exclusively to my interests!!! I’m being oppressed!!!!

“Women waste more disposable income…”

How, by definition, can what is *disposable* income be wasted? If there are societal or prejudicial expectations on how it should be spent, then it can’t be disposable.

Wow, so all those throwaway female characters who appear in action films just to stroke the hero’s ego (and dick) are actually women intruding on male spaces, and meant to make women feel special? I guess I’ve been interpreting this all wrong for so many years. I need to feel special every time Bond puts another notch on his bedpost!

I will rephrase my premise in less volatile terms

Mmmm….nope. Still a bad premise. Nicer wrapping paper doesn’t make it any more true.

So if, as you’re arguing, men are able to see the “bigger picture” from their lofty summit of superior logicality, while women are hopelessly stuck in the narrow valley of their own personal feelings, then why are so many men up in arms about increased diversity in movies? Surely, with their omniscient ability to relate to many different perspectives, it shouldn’t bother them to watch characters who are female, black, gay, Asian, Hispanic, disabled, etc.

And yet, evidence from the real world totally fails to support that. Look at all the wailing and garment-rending by Redpill, 4chan and similar heavily male-skewed spaces over the way women are “invading” and “ruining” movies (the article at the top of this page being a prime example of same). Look at the numerous marketing studies that show girls will read books and watch movies with male lead characters, but boys tend to shun books and movies with female lead characters suggest otherwise. If anything, it’s women that are socialized to understand and cater to other people’s experiences. It’s women that are expected to defer to the other person’s perspective, if that person is a white male. It’s women that are expected to go along with their guy friends to the latest Michael Bay explosion-and-boobfest because, hey, it’s not going to damage their gender identity the way “Bridget Jones’ Baby” would if the roles were reversed.

Maybe it’s possible that “touchy feely” movies are aimed at mature adults rather than specifically women? The age divide is much stronger than the gender divide when it comes to action-adventure and horror films vs. dramas and romance, but I don’t see anyone arguing that old people are ruining the movies.

What I’ve found myself wondering, is why the hell what *I* do with *my* money, which I earn by *working* a *job* – or any other woman and her money for that matter – the business of anyone but myself as the one making said money. If I want to buy property or decide I want to invest in expensive shoes, using my money to do so, that’s my choice – there are plenty of things that guys run out and buy that I think are ridiculous and unnecessary but if it’s their cash I’m not going to tell them “hey don’t buy those ‘collectible’ action figures that you say you plan to sell after they’ve increased in value” or “Do you really need another band t-shirt?”. Last I checked, the only guys who freak out over that kind of thing are what past generations would call “overly sensitive and controlling jerks”. Same thing we call them today.

lol he’s a race realist who doesn’t read books. this rabbit hole though.