This just in! According to some random dude on the Red Pill subreddit, our culture is going to hell in a little pink handbasket and it’s all the fault of you women.
Consider:
Television is all crappy reality shows and Kardashian type gossip magazine rubbish.
Every single movie has a romantic subplot forced into it, even movies “Made for men”.
ESPN spends more time on human interest pieces, Breast Cancer Awareness, and if Lamar Odom is staying with Khloe than actual sports.
Music gets more shallow, filthy(seriously, eat the booty like groceries?), and repetitive every day.
The problem? The entertainment biz is
simply giving women exactly what they want. This is the invasion of women into male spaces these liberal minded progressives clamored for.
Don’t try to deny it, ladies! You know it’s true. Because women want our entertainment to be crap. Also, entertainment consists entirely of TV, movies, sports, and music. Books do not count! They are only for women and manginas! And don’t even think about, you know, paintings and all that shit.
Women don’t care about the actual athletics behind sports. They could care less about the hardwork and dedication that goes into progress, they like the excitement and the player’s lives.
Women don’t need a “good movie”, they need a movie that makes them feel good. They need some romantic subplot that makes them feel special and hopeful and not alone.
And it gets worse:
Women don’t need good chord progression, lyrics that exalt a virtue or dig deep into the cultural zeitgiest, they just want a fun beat that makes them feel good.
Screw you ladies, and your terrible chord progressions! I mean, I’ve seen it a million times. Some dude comes up and he’s all
E – B – C#m – A
And the lady is all, nuh-uh!
C – B – F
And you’re like, what the hell is this bullshit!
Now, I know what you’re gonna say: I’M A WOMAN(OR I KNOW A WOMAN) WHO LIKES GOOD MOVIES AND SPORTS AND MUSIC AND YOU’RE FUCKING WRONG!
Guess what? I know an Asian that’s tall and has a big dick, are we gonna just assume that’s the average? Grow up.
YEAH! You tell ’em wait what?
I don’t remember learning about that argument in debate club.
This is the inevitability of women in male spaces, and more importantly the economy catering to women: Women waste more disposable income on entertainment and luxury than men. Women work to buy things that make them feel good.
Of course these industries are going to cater to women because there’s just so much fucking money in it.
But what can we men do?
we’re not going to stop listening to music or watching movies. We’re not going to turn sports off. These industries know this and thus can pocket from both sides.
BUT NO MORE! WE’RE MAD AS HELL AND WE’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE.
The truth is things will never change until men are more united, until we are unified in one voice that says “We’re not paying for this shit anymore.”
YOU TELL ‘EM! No more movies with romantic subplots! We only want to see people blowing shit up! NO KISSING.
And no more music with fun beats! WE DEMAND HIGH QUALITY CHORD PROGRESSIONS ONLY! And would it kill you to throw in a Dsus4 chord every once in a while? NO. No it wouldn’t.
Unfortunately, the betas would rather shoot up schools because they’re not getting pussy.
Yeah, fuck those fucking betas, with their inability to score pussy and their tolerance of weak-ass chord progressions.
And that shooting up schools thing, that sucks too.
H/T — r/TheBluePill
Well, I guess Wild Man answered my implied question earlier: if he has ever engaged in a substantive discourse with a woman, he just didn’t listen.
Explains a lot.
So we confirmed his original ideas even though some of the stuff people (men) said surprised him.
Long time lurker, first time poster.
I love (by which I mean despise despite its ubiquity) Wild’s attitude. Oh, yes, he came here for a discussion. A discussion where he took no time to read this site’s about & FAQ, where he did not read any prior posts as he’d know this misogynist “men are from Mars, women are from Venus but lulz Mars is totally better and smarter and more logical and should be in charge amirite?” goes over like a fart in church and has been REPEATEDLY debunked here. And he’d know this website has a policy of not suffering fools. And he came here for a discussion despite having zero grounding in feminist theory, gender studies, anthropology or biology, yet he makes claims refuted by even the barest knowledge of any of those subjects.
You know, as a lurker who will probably return to lurking, fools like this are useful. Maybe he’s trolling and thinks he “won” because you weren’t “nice” to him. But to anyone reading, all he’s doing is presenting common, idiotic arguments and giving you a platform to destroy those arguments. And at least for myself, I see and I read and I learn. I suspect I’m not the only one. So while the troll pictures himself on an aircraft carrier with a “Mission Accomplished” banner behind him for “disrupting a feminist forum” and “proving women are illogical subhumans cause they were MEAN”, anyone else with half a brain can see how full of shit those arguments are and reinforce how to fight back against them. So thanks, Wild, for your unwitting contributions to feminism! And I say that as a man who can “see the big picture”, that being you and your ilk are pseudo-intellectual hacks.
Is it possible for a person to wank themselves into a degloving injury? Perhaps Wild Man will be the first case!
Hey Wild Man, because I know you’re hanging around, I have a serious question for you:
Under what circumstances would you be willing to concede that you were factually wrong about something, and that it wasn’t just a misunderstanding or poor phrasing?
What’s up, have a welcome package.
I’m Googling around for some source for Wild Man’s notion that women spend more money on frivolous things than men do and coming up empty. All the studies I can find suggest that men and women spend their leisure dollars on similar things (except women do more clothes shopping), but men spend much more money on leisure overall. In less wealthy countries, aid organizations often prefer to give money to women because they’re more likely to spend it on their families.
It’s probably just a feeling that filtered through his weenis and into his brain, normatively.
Oh please. At 6th level I took the feat Cutting Remarks — so all my responses deal slashing damage, not acid.
I’m not really sure what you all talk about here, but I can’t really see how you can increase your sphere of discourse with the over-the-top confrontational style.
Okay, I’ve gotta ask because I know you’re still reading: Are you indeed TheeRyanGrey, the author of the original Reddit post? Because if so, these are all things you’ve written on Reddit:
Betas and Women are natural followers. Of course this is who you want to sell things to, they’re easily sold.
Women are fucking terrified of reality, which is why they’ve spent the past 50 years cultivating it to their liking
Women don’t have hobbies.
Do you guys not understand that everything is catering towards women nowadays or are you just afraid to say that things women like suck?
she’s just one hoe. she sucked his dick in a bathroom on the first date. clowning her ass is worth way more than her pussy. her pussy has zero value
if you like fattys, cool, do yiur thing, but don’t try and rationalize your low standards
Such acidic language! Such an over-the-top confrontational style! Tsk, I say. You, sir, are a negative vibe merchant.
I know, I know, I’m being unfair. You address substantive issues too:
If media and images of attractive women create body image issues for women, then why do the same people not argue for the limiting of dildo size because of the ACTUAL problem it creates?
#normativedildos
oooh time for some more ‘normative’ debating!
Um, dude, none of us have any problem replying to people using “@[insert name here]” All you have to do is go @Moocow (for example) then followed by your reply to that specific person.
You remind me of my first grade student who was shocked to discover that the world actually existed and things actually happened in the universe before he was born.
I’ll say the same thing I said to him: The world does not revolve around you. You don’t speak for the experiences of others.
Also, it’s pretty damn clear that the ‘evidence’ in your personal experience is heavily biased by stereotypes seen on TV and not on conversations with actual women. Real life women act like people, not the ‘token female character’ who’s there to support the white male protagonist and reward his ‘becoming a better person’ with access to her v-jay.
Um, yes I can, watch:
I disagree.
In all seriousness, no, the ‘discourse from women’ is not ‘generally different from that of men’. The discourse of people is different from that of other people regardless of gender.
Do tell, what are these magical differences? You’re being awfully vague.
Geez, you really can’t science for shit.
Would you like to know about my experiences? I’ve gone to engineering school with women who can math and science. I’ve dated women who are programmers, lab technicians, animators, truck drivers, marketing executives and video game designers.
Go ahead, draw a conclusion from this. Clearly all those activities must be ‘feminine’ since I met women who do them. (That last bit was sarcasm, btw, because activities and jobs are not gendered)
*Crickets chirping*
Easy, because your premise is bullshit. There’s no difference between how a man argues his points vs how a woman argues her point.
So you literally just ignored every single person who expressed an alternate viewpoint, then insisted that your viewpoint is ‘obvious’ and strong enough evidence to draw conclusions from.
This is some legendary levels of un-selfawareness. You’re like a fool who sees a fish flopping around on a beach and then concludes “ah, this proves that fish live on beaches”!
Funny, so once we start talking about the pressures that affect men, you’re more inclined to agree. Hmm, I wonder why.
The fuck does this even mean? Median of what? Gender identity? Logical reasoning? Emotions? What are you quantifying?
Looks like “median” is going on the list of things you need to look up. Although at this rate you might as well just read the whole fucking dictionary.
There is no difference. People have feelings. It’s a fundamental aspect of human beings. There’s nothing ‘feminine’ about it.
It’s really quite telling that the first emotions that come to your mind are egoism and narcissism. Geez, I fuckin wonder why. Here’s another emotion for you: Denial.
Well actually, that’s a defense mechanism. Geez, human beings sure are complex! It’s almost like we can’t reduce all of humanity into neat little boxes.
Yes, you are way off the mark. Emotions are not gendered. They are chemicals in our brain.
I mean that really depends, are we talking about ‘normative’ trolls or garden variety ones?
“might be a bit dense” is the understatement of the century.
And therein lies the problem. There. Is. No. Gendered. Difference. Believe me, I use to think there was too. I bought into the myth when I was young and immature, until I talked to women and realized that they were people just like me as opposed to some mysterious hivemind controlled by the supreme overlord Katie. Gender roles are social constructs, they are not biological. If you wonder why women or men act certain ways, might I suggest you look at the cultural context and see how society ‘expects’ a man or woman to act.
Well if you truly are interested in obtaining some insights, perhaps stop making assumptions about how “all women are x” or “all men are x”? Perhaps stop ignoring the myriad of people here telling you that your assumptions are unfounded? Perhaps try to ask questions instead of just coming in here with the same sweeping generalizations that we’ve heard and debunked a million times already?
My brother spends more on clothes than I do (by quite a lot – his wardrobe is much bigger than mine) but I spend more on games and days out. He spends more on alcohol, I have a gym subscription. He eats out more than I do, but I like to play in the arcades sometimes, which he doesn’t. There’s so many different things that people can spend “leisure money” on I’ve no clue how one can assume that it’s only wimmins that are frivolous (because emotions) and menz are self-sacrificing penny pinchers (because logik and also men are better than feeeemales neener neener).
P.S:: I went to a food festival today and spent more than I planned BUT half of that shit is for Christmas presents anyway. The rest is for my belly because 1) the local produce round here is seriously delicious 2) I can buy and eat what I want you dumbass Red Pillocks.
Oh yeah, and I only bought ONE scented fucking candle so far this year.
Wild Man:
So you’re leaving because you’re worried about how what people said made you feel rather than the actual content of the posts? That doesn’t follow your premise. Good job proving yourself wrong.
Don’t flatter yourself. There is a wider potential audience at play here. You merely offered a good opportunity to interact with that audience.
So you have said… repeatedly. In reality, all you have been doing is making suppositions rather than stating anything vaguely factual.
There was an attempt to exchange information? All I saw was you endeavouring to instruct us in the “man/woman dynamic” instead of trying to engage anyone on a peer-to-peer level.
Allow me to dispel the mystery. Not all men think like you.
I think your sarcasm meter needs re-calibrating…
“Tittle” is mine. It’s the dot above i’s and j’s. : D
“What do you mean all men don’t think like I do? I’m obviously right! Why would my fellow normative men disagree with me when I’m being so very factual and logical by stating that women are obviously all about their fee-fees and want everyone to put them first?! Why are you being so mean to me?! I’m going home, you…you….mean person!”
Just had a chance to fully read the article. Holy fucking shit, that guy’s grammar. Holy shit. Holy. Shit.
” But I’m just stating the obvious because that is clearly your intention.”
translation: the vast complexities of human gender and performativity in general can and should be ignored in favor of my own personal experiences and the “common sense” I’ve used to interpret these experiences.
lol
Everything that guy writes sounds like a textbook beep boop r/atheist faux-logic nerd. Disgusting.
We may be mean, but at least our median acidity is normative, right?
XD
According to my own personal experience, which extends to high school and animes, we are completely normative. If you don’t act exactly as I do, or wear the same tribly with a feather in it like me, you’re a beta cuck womanish mangina, OBVIOUSLY. No, I haven’t studied anything related to any of this in university. Don’t you know university is a gigantic feminist conspiracy to keep 80% of men virgins? You fools!
Well, if he expects us to be normative experience, then of course we weren’t a positive experience for him!
…bad econ joke. I’ll show myself out now.
I think that I have nothing but contempt for evolutionary psychology at this point, though I’d rather not feel that way (there I go, letting my feelings get in the way: want to take a guess at my gender, Wild Man?)
@wwth, do you have any links handy to a journal article or whatnot that might show me that the field has anything meaningful to offer me as an anthro/archaeologist? (I’m asking you in particular since you since you said you had a psych degree earlier)
Econ? ECON? ECONOMICS ISN’T A “REAL SCIENCE,” THEREFORE FEMINISM. You’re in on it!
I’ve heard evopsych in the university can go either way but even within academia it’s generally met with apprehension, as you are apparently aware. I worked with a large number of psych grad students (as a shadow scholar) and evopsych never came up. Not once. That’s actually pretty weird, because we covered everything under the sun, including some very strange fringe stuff. I get the feeling it’s on the same level as chiropractic. I wouldn’t be surprised if SOME very basic human survival behaviors could be influenced by evolution, but trying to go beyond that and to explain things like gender, etc. via evolution is really, really dumb. Like so dumb that no other field intersects with that idea dumb. If no other related discipline supports your idea you’re either in some groundbreaking shit or you’re just so wrong and dumb.
pop evopsych is little better than scientific racism. Unless you’re talking to a PhD, the person is very likely a terrible idiot.
tl;dr fuck evopsych. anthro is way more interesting/useful in understanding the world around you.