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“Are you a virgin flesh?” And a thousand other creepy messages from creepy creepers

Hello girls indeed.
Hello girls indeed.

Mia Matsumiya, an L.A. musician, is also a human female on the internet, and in the latter capacity has been getting — and saving — creepy messages from creepy dudes for a decade, more than a thousand in total.

Now she’s posting them on Instagram, supplemented by some of the especially creepy ones her friends have gotten as well. Along with a wide assortment of extremely weird sexual come-ons, she’s gotten racist abuse, death threats, and, she told DAZED magazine, “pages and pages of fantasy stories about coming to my concerts and then raping me in the bathroom” from a lovely fellow who “ended up getting arrested for stalking another Asian woman.”

Here are a few of the more charming ones I found on her Instagram, though for the full effect you should probably just go there. (CONTENT WARNING: Graphic and horrifying language, rape threats, you name it.)

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As Matsumiya notes, she’s “never seen a well-intentioned question that contains the phrase ‘virgin flesh.'”

But hey, it gets worse!

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Wat.

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Some people spend Sunday morning eating a late breakfast and doing the New York Times crossword. Pradeep here sends bitter, hostile messages to women he doesn’t know.

Brace yourself for this next one.

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Are there really a lot of child RAPPERS in Japan?

You may feel the need to take a shower after this next one.

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PRO TIP to all the men of the world: Never refer to yourself as “Papsy.” Ever.

This next one is perhaps the weirdest backhanded compliment ever conceived.

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And speaking of weird, here’s one that some creeper sent a redheaded friend of hers.

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Uh, dude, has this, er, approach ever worked in the history of ever?

H/T — DAZED, via The Cut

 

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yazikus
yazikus
5 years ago

How many bad decisions do you have to make to get to the point in your life where you sit down at a computer and type out one of the above messages? Seriously. ‘Visual feast’? Blech.

Leah Renee
5 years ago

She didn’t even mention the thousand, thousand dicks that get thrown into your face. I’ve seen so many dicks, the dick doesn’t even phase me anymore. I freak out more over bees than I do unwanted dick pics.

Lee
Lee
5 years ago

Really don’t think I’d want someone that’s old enough to be my father (and who writes walls of text like that) to be my ~*friend*~ … >.<

Ersatz Haderach
Ersatz Haderach
5 years ago

Apparently it is permissible to praise Yukio Mishima in white supremacist circles.

Arthur Meyer
5 years ago

Are these guys so desperate that the need to leech onto any human female they find?

She’s a musician from LA; that alone for me is a whole series of topics and means of conversation (is also a musician and artist). Music is much better than sex anyways…

brian
5 years ago

Did someone say Japanese child rappers? 🙂
https://youtu.be/GxWE8A1Dr-Y
Hopefully the adorable hip-hop idol group Rhymeberry helps bleach your brain a little after reading this…

davidknewton
davidknewton
5 years ago

There was an absolutely astonishing one from Deviantart a while ago, for those who haven’t seen it:

http://souredcandy.tumblr.com/post/126282724232/i-just-got-asked-out-to-dinner-over-deviantart

“Desirable traits that fertile adults seek to propagate”! Perhaps the next Men’s Rights conference should include a panel on how not to sound like you’re from space.

Also, I had no idea that unsolicited penis pictures were so much of a problem. I just can’t imagine trying to attract someone by just waving it in front of their face, unless I were a cockatoo or something.

littleknown
littleknown
5 years ago

This makes me want to use my lunch break to take a shower.

Scribbles
Scribbles
5 years ago

This is legit horrifying. Out of all the sick shit you post, this is easily among the worst. Holy fucking shit, dude.

I’ve been papsied before. Multiple times. I’m guessing the papsies of the world don’t think of themselves as creepers, but meeting one in real life is pretty chilling, even if they don’t mean any harm. Serious rape vibes come off every papsy I’ve known. Also this is the best new term for creepy old man who claims he wants to be your “big brother” or your “best friend” while mixing a roofie into your drink.

Fucking papsies.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

The Papsy one is a bit gushing, but is it necessarily hostile? It doesn’t seem any worse than some of those “inspirational” hippy drippy memes that do the rounds on Facebook.

Scribbles
Scribbles
5 years ago

You wanna get with that person who could be your adult son or daughter? Don’t be a papsy! Treat them with respect, know when it is and isn’t appropriate to flirt, don’t try to insinuate yourself into their lives in weird ways, and drop it if they aren’t interested.

This message brought to you by the council of relatively younger people who are skeeved out by papsies.

Button
Button
5 years ago

Where do these people learn to behave like this? I just don’t even.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

Ugh.

I’m going to lay down the law here. All those people who posted those things need to get the fuck out of my gender. Like right now. Go and form your own gender somewhere else; this one is mine. In this one we don’t write shit like that.

Scribbles
Scribbles
5 years ago

Alan, papsies are gross. Take it from someone who’s run into several. Imagine if some older dude wouldn’t shut up about how you’re his younger brother while obviously wanting to chug your dick or whatever.

Papsies aren’t as bad as the others on here at first glance, but if you take a drink from a papsy, they can actually be worse.

Malitia - SJW Who Lurks Above in Shadow
Malitia - SJW Who Lurks Above in Shadow
5 years ago

And now I’m glad that my online presence is pretty limited (and mostly not connected to my real name)… and a bit sad over not saving the weirdest one I ever got (on my desktop screenshot at deviantart) long time ago. It wasn’t sexual just concern trolly over my escapist habits*, which got handily compared to drug use. Because I had a mangaesque wallpaper so I OBVIOUSLY must be out of touch with reality. O.o

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Pradeep, a brown guy, thinks white guys are superior.

Thanks for that, Pradeep!

Shakeb
Shakeb
5 years ago

Clicked the source link, thought “do I actually want to read more of that?” Then my browser crashed. “Good call phone.”

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Is “Papsy” an actual term then?

I’m a bit behind on this whole net speak think.

Oh, and what’s “TIL” whilst we’re at it?

TheLulzWatch
TheLulzWatch
5 years ago

“Uh, dude, has this, er, approach ever worked in the history of ever?”

It is how these socially stunted [breaching comment policy] actually believe a good approche looks like…

But if it doesn´t work, then it is not the approche that is to blame, it is the woman. She is a bitch, a post-wall slut ruined by feminism and thus condemned forever to the horrors of the incel life and of course, owning cats.

Scribbles
Scribbles
5 years ago

It’s a term now as far as I’m concerned.

Scribbles
Scribbles
5 years ago

“TIL” is “today I learned,” mostly used on the MRA/fascist recruitment site reddit.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

I’m 18 years old, I have dark hair, I’m a little over six feet tall, and I have green eyes a car, and a country club membership. These are all desirable traits that fertile adults seek to propagate.

Yes, I think I’ll take a cutting of you, stick it in a glass of filtered water, and then, when roots start to appear, I’ll plant it out in my garden. Thanks for that kind offer!

ShakeB
ShakeB
5 years ago

Clicked the source link, wondered, “do I actually want to read more of that?” Then immediately my browser crashed. “Good call, Phone.”

katz
katz
5 years ago

I’m 18 years old, I have dark hair, I’m a little over six feet tall, and I have green eyes a car, and a country club membership. These are all desirable traits that fertile adults seek to propagate.

I’m curious to know how you inherit being 18 years old.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Ah cheers. Only ever seen it here and didn’t want to lose cred with you cool kids by displaying my ignorance 🙂

The Papsy one just reminds me of that unsolicited gushing friendship that you used to get at the airport from Hare Krishna types and God botherers generally.

Ha, I’m reminded of one of my more mithanthropic mates who once responded to a cheery “Have a nice day” with “Don’t you fucking tell me what to do!”(He’s Scottish)

TheLulzWatch
TheLulzWatch
5 years ago

“Pradeep, a brown guy, thinks white guys are superior.”

What he believes is that asian women hates asian men (like him) and sees White men as superior, seen several comments on ROK.
Of course, he could be projecting his own beliefs on asian women but that is not 100% guaranteed.

Fnoicby the Cat 5 Kaiju
Fnoicby the Cat 5 Kaiju
5 years ago

I’m 18 years old, I have dark hair, I’m a little over six feet tall, and I have green eyes a car, and a country club membership. These are all desirable traits that fertile adults seek to propagate.

This sounds like a list a PUA would come up with for all the criteria needed to attract the ladies. Then of course get mad that it didn’t work, not realizing it’s SUPER CREEPY to list all your “desireable” traits like this and expect a positive response.

contrapangloss
5 years ago

Alan, trust me, the papsy one is super creepy.

Like, he literally uses some of the same lines a creepster used on me, in person, before trying to move in for a mega inappropriate kiss.

Middle Aged to Old dudes trying too enthusiastically to sound ‘friendly’ to kids between 14-22 is creepy as hell.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

I’m curious to know how you inherit being 18 years old.

By getting born and living 18 years, would be my educated guess.

maghavan
maghavan
5 years ago

@davidknewton

Lol. “This are all desirable traits that fertile adults seek to propagate” does have a certain “Free Pumpkins for all Humans!” feel to it.

Mike
Mike
5 years ago

Pradeep, a brown guy, thinks white guys are superior.
Thanks for that, Pradeep!

I think he was actually assuming that she must think white guys are superior, the logic being that: since she turned him down, it must have something to do with race rather than anything about him personally.

My good friend is an Asian-American woman in her late twenties who does online dating stuff, and the messages that M. Matsumiya has been getting remind me a lot of the sorts of messages my friend gets: lots of guys acting entitled to a date and then acting really aggrieved (and hateful) when they’re turned down. There was even a married guy in his late 60s who messaged in ALL CAPS and sent unsolicited porn photos – he seemed really hurt that my friend wouldn’t accept his kind offer of dinner and oral sex.

maghavan
maghavan
5 years ago

Who has two thumbs and a whole bunch of desirable traits that fertile adults seek to propagate?

*THIS* GUY!

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

I think he was actually assuming that she must think white guys are superior, the logic being that: since she turned him down, it must have something to do with race rather than anything about him personally.

And surely his nasty personality and internalized racist assumptions had NOTHING to do with that.

Well, Pradeep has no reason to worry. She’s made it quite clear that she also turns down white guys with the same assumptions. She’s an equal-opportunity turner-downer, how about that!

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

OMG, her Instagram. This guy:

https://instagram.com/p/89O8Yok8b1/?taken-by=perv_magnet

“Agreeable bone structure” is bad enough, but asking her which race she wants to “genocide”, as a verb? Sheer tragicomedy GOLD!

littleknown
littleknown
5 years ago

The Papsy one is quite hostile. Papsy makes a number of aggressive assumptions, as well as commands.

Always remeber [sic] me in your daily life as I do you also!

Not asking. Not to mention that even asking politely that a young woman you don’t know keep you in her thoughts every day, as you do her, is intimidating af.

Some may say; “How is it an OLD MAN like you would care for even me!

I am assuming, since she posted the image, that Ms. Matsumiya did not message Papsy, telling him that she appreciated what he wrote about X, that she really cares deeply about him, and is it okay with him that a young woman like her cares for an old man like him? No. Papsy is saying, “People find it strange that an old man would have such an deep infatuation with a young woman who doesn’t know who he is, but I reject that reality and substitute it with my own!” There is an implied assumption that she should agree with this.

My heart can fill [sic] you as tho you were right here with me!

Know that if ever you feel noone love you!!!!!!!!!!!! REMEMBER ME! I love you so much!

Translation: I am special. Please appreciate how special I am. Please tell me that no one else loves you, so that I can save you from no one else loving you. I really, really hope that no one else loves you.

A Papsy might come to nothing. But Papsy also expresses a desperation, a fixation, and the kind of extreme hope of self-importance that any young woman is quite right to find very intimidating.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Bina

Hang on, didn’t we have an article on how neo-nazi ideology was the best source of chat up lines? Now you’re saying you *don’t* go for that? Man, this dating thing is so confusing.

@ contrapanglos

Yeah, I’m a big one for always assuming the best about people, but I can see how that could be creepy. Especially if there is an ulterior motive.

TheLulzWatch
TheLulzWatch
5 years ago

“I’m 18 years old, I have dark hair, I’m a little over six feet tall, and I have green eyes a car, and a country club membership. These are all desirable traits that fertile adults seek to propagate.”
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“I’m curious to know how you inherit being 18 years old.”

Or the part of you being born with a car and a country club membership.

Catalpa
Catalpa
5 years ago

I’m curious to know how you inherit being 18 years old.

Ah, the 18-year-old phenotype is a common but extremely recessive trait that is only expressed by organisms that have survived for 216 months after their birth/hatching. It appears to only persist for approximately 365 days before becoming dormant once more.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

I’ve gotten enough unsolicited dick pics for a coffee table book. The guys who send their dick pics in groups to show their penis from multiple angles and different lighting are especially NOT APPRECIATED. But they would make for an entertaining section in my “Dick pic Anthology” coffee table book.

Dick pics from 18 year olds, dick pics from men older than my own damn father (he’s 70!), dick pics from guys with sex toys in their ass and many many dick pics on disembodied torsos. And not one of them seems to ever have read the plethora of posts in which women discuss just how rude and unwanted it is to receive those dick pics all these guys send tucked into some junk mail/mass-email spam.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Hang on, didn’t we have an article on how neo-nazi ideology was the best source of chat up lines? Now you’re saying you *don’t* go for that? Man, this dating thing is so confusing.

Heh. Seeing as I’m German, and I know what the OLD Nazis were like, I have to say that these new ones are even more repugnant. The haircuts on some of them…oy, oy, oy.

But yeah. The first thing “Eric” the Necrophile there reminded me of was those PUAs who were flummoxed to find that talk of propagating the white race to a woman with whom they were not even on the first date yet did nothing but repulse her, instead of giving her the vagina-tingles like they thought it would!

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

Greetings, fellow human! Let us meet to ingest life-sustaining chemicals via our human mouths!

Mia Matsumiya is tiny, like 1.45m. Does that make this shit extra creepy, or am I over-reacting?

catmara
5 years ago

@msexceptiontotherule:

But they would make for an entertaining section in my “Dick pic Anthology” coffee table book.

What are the odds that if some woman did publish all the dick pics she received as a coffee table book, the guys who sent them would be whining about “invasion of privacy”? Like when those “creepers of OKCupid” tumblrs were set up, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth about “creep-shaming”.

These individuals are truly like cockroaches in human form– the last thing they want is light shone on them.

catmara
5 years ago

BTW, is “are you a virgin flesh” the new “how is babby formed”? I sure hope not.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@Catmara

In the cases involving dicks on disembodied torsos – which straight up nearly all of the dick pics have been, because dudes will send dick pics to women they don’t/barely know all day every day including pics showing dick and the fact that they’ve got a dildo in their butt in the same photo, but hardly ANY send dick pics where one can see their face. So they’d have to admit “Yeah that’s my dick and yes there’s a dildo in my ass”, etc for there to be any legal recourse available to them….and FFS – maybe they shouldn’t send all these dick pics if they’re concerned about their privacy.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Is a country club membership recessive or dominant?

scalyllama
5 years ago

OMG, the Papsy one reminds me of one particular message I got on a dating site from a guy older than my father. What was hilarious about it was that after the super creepy BAU guff Papsy guys usually spew forth, he proceeded to outline – in excruciating detail – his proposed itinerary for travelling from his place to my locale using public transport. His travel plans took up about two thirds of his entire message.

I had a good laugh, deleted the message, and promptly changed my location setting to something less specific than my actual suburb. Because it was still creepy as fuck.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@Buttercup

Flowers in the Attic-style, recessive.

Pony-play ranch and bdsm club = dominant (and submissive).

😉

catmara
5 years ago

@Moggie

Mia Matsumiya is tiny, like 1.45m. Does that make this shit extra creepy, or am I over-reacting?

I don’t know if it’s just her height but the amount of creepy shit that women of East Asian appearance have to put up with is just gross. The creepers have it in their heads that East Asian women are somehow more “submissive” than Western women.

I have a friend who lives in Edinburgh and one of his friends is from Malaysia originally; but she was adopted when very young and has lived her entire life in Scotland. She gets a lot of unwelcome attention from guys who have this “East Asian girls are submissive” fantasy and think they can get away with things they wouldn’t dare try with a white woman– so it usually comes as a shock to them when she tells them to fuck off in no uncertain terms…

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