Is the real problem with Men’s Rights Activists that they’re a bunch of sloppy fatties who don’t know how to dress?
That, at least, is the theory of one of the leading alpha dogs in the Red Pill subreddit — the legendary commenter known as GayLubeOil — and in a recent post he has some tough love for his wayward MRA brethren.
Oh, he agrees that MRAs are pretty much right about everything, issues-wise.
Anybody with any semblance of compassion or empathy would realize that men’s issues are serious, and women’s issues are cries for attention.
He even singles out one particular MRA as being especially wise.
King of Men’s Rights, Dean Esmay, makes excellent points that would convince any reasonable man.
Ah, but there’s just one problem, as GayLubeOil sees it. Or maybe two. Women don’t logic. They tingle. And MRA don’t make the ladies tingle.
[W]hat his royal highness needs to understand while he’s eating fudge popsicles and loafing around in cargo shorts is that a conversation with women is not about logic.
Also, women apparently have a thing against cargo shorts?
With the exception of Bruce Jenner, women are not men and therefore they don’t think like men. Women don’t care about logic they care about credibility, social standing, and tingles. To a woman it doesn’t matter what is being said, only who is saying it.
So says the mighty GayLubeOil.
Women are social creatures not logical creatures and that means they value social standing over reason. That’s the MRM’s big issue, they have no social standing.
That’s a nice way of saying that they’re all a bunch of luh-huh-looooooosers.
Women would rather reuse a tampon than have sex with a MRA.
He might have a point here, actually.
Until that changes and men’s rights stops eating cheese puffs out of their fedoras, they will never gain traction among women and will continue going nowhere, just like Dean Esmay in his crocs.
GayLubeOil has a bit of a fixation on poor Mr. Esmay, it seems.
So to all of the men’s rights activists that got trolled into reading this article, do us all a favor and stop being a chubster, speak with confidence and for the love of pregnant MRA Jesus go lift.
DO YOU EVEN LIFT
Your body is the message. The sooner you start taking your appearance seriously the sooner you will be taken seriously.
Maybe trade in the fedoras for a proper pickup artist hat?
Who knows maybe you guys can help make marriage a viable institution again or bring back free speech to university campuses. We the Red Pill are standing right behind you, getting our dicks sucked by insecure sorority girls and calling you fat.
Truly a manifesto for our times.
I’m thrilled with the new Dr Who, but gotta say Sandi Toksvig waz robbed.
(Sorry, didn’t read Argenti’s post closely enough: I support all except marijuana legalisation, but if I had to pick a favourite it would be socialised medicine.)
EJ — yeah, if it was a select all then bar graph makes sense, but then where did the % come from?! Hence my little informal survey here!
“Which of the following issues do you support?
– marijuana legalization
– homosexual marriage
– trans peoples’ rights
– abortion remaining legal
– socialized medicine
– minimum wage increase
– increased gun control”
I support “all of the above,” though I’m not sure if gun control is practical given the political climate in the US. Might have to kick that can down the road a bit until people stop acting so paranoid about it.
Favorite one would probably be socialized medicine.
Actually, abortion staying legal might be more important. Forgot that was on there.
@Argenti Aertheri
I know I don’t post too much but hopefully I can still participate in this.
Which of the following issues do you support?
– homosexual marriage
– trans peoples’ rights
– abortion remaining legal
– socialized medicine <—-
– minimum wage increase
– increased gun control
I'm indifferent about marijuana legalization, so I don't support it (but I'm not AGAINST it either).
As for the topic… really, there's only one thing that's going through my mind at this.
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4655054/rolling-on-floor-laughing-o.gif
Well, not really “more important,” but it’s one of my issues, you know?
I wish there were a way to edit posts.
I also support all those things, and I guess I’ll pick socialized medicine if we’re imagining a context in which it’s meaningful to support such a thing.
All of the above and I do not see why they ever could be mutually exclusive.
All of them, but if I had to choose… Probably marijuana legalisation, because the drug war is the main excuse that racist cops use to throw so many innocent black men behind bars (or worse), destroying families and lives and keeping them
“In their place”as poor as possible. It’s Jim Crow by any other name. Fuck the drug war.@Roscoe(not affiliated with the best place for chicken and waffles in SoCal)
I had this amazing idea of conducting a proper experiment regarding feminine hygiene products capacity for leeching moisture from human skin while still in their packaging…but then I realized that hanging out in the feminine products aisle and fondling as much of the merchandise as possible would at best get me strange looks from store employees and at worst they’d call security and have me escorted off the premises.
@Bina
I think I just went further down the path to hell after the first thing I pictured after reading “sea sponge” was of the kind people use to wash their cars.
I’m too squeamish for the diva – getting it situated and hoping for no leaks during the acclimation phase would be enough to scare me off but of course there’s the added twist with the need to empty it. Reusable pants-mattresses wouldn’t be viewed favorably here – at least from the viewpoint of the water-use-shamers that have come out of the woodwork thanks to the drought. To be shamed for trying to keep the pants-mattresses clean by nosy neighbors who don’t like how much water one is using because it’s “Not faaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiir!” – we can blame those idiots for all bad things climate change from here on out, since their bitching resulted in reusable pants mattresses to be not reusable thus had to be carted off to the landfill. They should have to live in huts constructed of all those dumped pants-mattresses with floors made of legos!
I imagine I’ll have reached menopause by the time the diva stops making me squeamish just thinking about trying to use it. I hear a ton of people talking about how great it is, and I’m sure once it’s all up in the business like the diva and other incarnations that have come along more recently are supposed to be. All the effort and manual manipulation to use a diva or one of the others are so much more demanding compared to a bit of digital interfacing that is involved with using O.B. tampons…
@argenti
I also support all of the above.
Not sure what to pick for my most important issue there. Should I take into account the current political climate? Abortion remaining legal would probably be the most important one there, or socialized medicine. But where I live there’s no reason to believe abortion rights would be in danger anytime soon, so it’s not exactly top of my mind. We also don’t have a minimum wage to increase. And we don’t have a significant problem with gun violence. Selfishly, I’m tempted to say marijuana legalization since it would help me personally with my physical pains.
I really don’t know. They’re all important issues.
(That’s for the US, of course. For Australia, where the drug war doesn’t have the murderously racist side effects but gay marriage is still illegal in every state, gay marriage. Anyway, on to what I was going to post before I got distracted. =P)
Uhh… Rape is a men’s issue. Rape is a women’s issue. How can rape be both serious and a cry for attention? It’s Schrödinger time!
… Okay, the answer is “MRAs don’t give a shit about male victims either,” but still.
@Mortarius LOL thanks for that… Pretty much what I expected, except I’m surprised self-identifying MRAs are so young (I’d expected them to be older and bitter at perceived injustices in the family court system).
The thing that strikes me the most is the age-chart you provided re MRAs;, It seems like we really need to educate younger guys about what it really means to be a “man” nowadays, and how it doesn’t need to involve control and aggressiveness. I’ve tried to do this in my own volunteer work with younger guys (in low-income neighborhoods), but the mythos of the so-called alpha-dog runs deep in our society… very hard to combat, even when younger guys respect the older man talking to them. I feel like for every 1 kid I reached, 2 other didn’t care or felt too much societal pressure to keep being “hard”. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but for those of us who try to combat this shit, it can feel like an endless battle sometimes.
As a lifter and a male feminist, please MRAs, don’t follow that advice. It’s already hard enough to find an open bench press or squat rack at most gyms nowadays; I don’t need to be competing against you for them, either.
Which of the following issues do you support?
– marijuana legalization
– homosexual marriage
– trans peoples’ rights
– abortion remaining legal
– socialized medicine
– minimum wage increase
– increased gun control
All of the above for me as well. Which one is most important is tricky, as I feel they are all important, but I’ll say marijuana legalization simply because we can stop wasting money incarcerating people for possession and distribution of a substance less harmful than alcohol, and increase revenue through sales at governemnt owned vendors, much like ABC stores. Not to mention that we could enforce quality control to prevent harmful additives.
Here in Ireland, the selection of tampons is awful. It resembles what was available in the US back in the 1970s, but with few choices. I could never use Tampax because (TMI alert) they’d get half used and then forget what their job was, apparently, and removing them when they’re a little dry is like trying to shit Velcro. I ordered a cup because there were no better alternatives. I have short fingers and I’m still able to use one (I just have to fish around a bit). I don’t even look at it when I empty it; I just tip it backwards into the toilet and then swish it about a bit under the bathroom tap. The only reason I don’t use them exclusively is because after a few months’ use I can’t get rid of the stink even after multiple washings and boilings. And the time I managed to squeeze out a cup while using the toilet. I now carry a spare.
Oh, and my list of support is “all of the above”. Before I was a Socialist, I was a Libertarian. 😀
RoscoeTCat:
I did stocking at a craft store for a while; it’s just boxes in general that suck moisture from your hands. Doesn’t matter what’s inside ‘ em.
Argenti: yes on everything and keeping abortion safe and legal is #1.
Re: DivaCup/Lunacups
I feverishly love my DivaCup, so I’m going to speak out in support of it. They are fantastic little things, without the risk of TSS and with a much better holding capacity than most tampons. Plus, since they’re made of silicone and not
velcrocotton, people with a predictable cycle can insert them before their period starts with little worries. Getting blood on your hands is a bit gross, but I got used to it pretty fast. And they’re eco-friendly.Before you get a hang of using them, though, I would highly recommend wearing a pad to catch the leaks because when DivaCups leak, it can be like the frigging Shining in your pants sometimes. I sometimes still use pantyliners just in case. Generally at night.
As for the smell, leaving mine in direct sunlight, like on a windowsill, during the weeks I’m not using it tends to clear that up. Though if you have cats, I’ve heard stories about them stealing the cups, so I’d make sure it’s out of the reach of kitties.
I’m constantly amazed by these guys. Everyone else thinks their pathetic and instead of banding together ther is infighting. Fuck the cheese puffs, give me popcorn!
@catalpa my wife has reusable pads and a diva cup, she loves it. Of course she hasn’t had a period since our daughter was born but when it comes back she’ll be set.
@badgersdaughter
The tampons my mom used many moons ago were like a cross between a lollipop and a tampon, there was a stick not the typical applicator – I think the brand was Kotex. But oddly (Warning, TMI) most of the women I know have experienced some problem or other with using Tampax, the main cause seems to be the way they expand inside the vagina, which is all lengthwise and little if any on the sides. The ones with the cardboard tube applicator like the ones for storing posters but on a smaller scale were the worst, and played a part in the experience that made me banish white pants/skirts/shorts from my wardrobe for all eternity.
The good old days, when tampons could be mistaken by the purse rifling novice for lollipops, and tampax felt like velcro. 😉
@Hambeast, Social Justice Road Warrior
…*grumbles* freaking fantastic, my plan to randomly fondle the packages of feminine hygiene products in the name of !SCIENCE! is shot to hell….;)
@Catalpa
The idea of having to employ a backup method involving pads is worse than using the diva on its own! I used pads all of one period – my first one – and was properly horrified enough to go with tampons from that point on.
Ok guys, one more person and I’ll do up some quick math, currently, by any logical view on stats, everything but pot has 100% support, but I think by how they got 68%, only 15%~ of you support abortion remaining legal (where back in reality land a third said its most important).
They must’ve said “select all you support” and then taken the total number of votes, not voters, and divided the votes for each by that. That is, with 9 tallied peeps, 9 people support socialized medicine, but out of 61 total things supported, that’s only 15%~. Add in nearly 3,000 people/bots who really want pot to be legal and I guess that could be 68% of the total boxes checked?
As for their bot problem, back when we did the survey, we had just over 1,600 responses, I had to toss like 3 of them as outliers that had to be either bots or trolls (probably the latter). That was absolutely amazing, I was expecting a couple hundred and then found myself crashing excel over and over again cuz it just couldn’t handle the sheer number of lurkers who responded.
I need to go for a bit, I’ll whip up some charts when I get back!