Is the real problem with Men’s Rights Activists that they’re a bunch of sloppy fatties who don’t know how to dress?
That, at least, is the theory of one of the leading alpha dogs in the Red Pill subreddit — the legendary commenter known as GayLubeOil — and in a recent post he has some tough love for his wayward MRA brethren.
Oh, he agrees that MRAs are pretty much right about everything, issues-wise.
Anybody with any semblance of compassion or empathy would realize that men’s issues are serious, and women’s issues are cries for attention.
He even singles out one particular MRA as being especially wise.
King of Men’s Rights, Dean Esmay, makes excellent points that would convince any reasonable man.
Ah, but there’s just one problem, as GayLubeOil sees it. Or maybe two. Women don’t logic. They tingle. And MRA don’t make the ladies tingle.
[W]hat his royal highness needs to understand while he’s eating fudge popsicles and loafing around in cargo shorts is that a conversation with women is not about logic.
Also, women apparently have a thing against cargo shorts?
With the exception of Bruce Jenner, women are not men and therefore they don’t think like men. Women don’t care about logic they care about credibility, social standing, and tingles. To a woman it doesn’t matter what is being said, only who is saying it.
So says the mighty GayLubeOil.
Women are social creatures not logical creatures and that means they value social standing over reason. That’s the MRM’s big issue, they have no social standing.
That’s a nice way of saying that they’re all a bunch of luh-huh-looooooosers.
Women would rather reuse a tampon than have sex with a MRA.
He might have a point here, actually.
Until that changes and men’s rights stops eating cheese puffs out of their fedoras, they will never gain traction among women and will continue going nowhere, just like Dean Esmay in his crocs.
GayLubeOil has a bit of a fixation on poor Mr. Esmay, it seems.
So to all of the men’s rights activists that got trolled into reading this article, do us all a favor and stop being a chubster, speak with confidence and for the love of pregnant MRA Jesus go lift.
DO YOU EVEN LIFT
Your body is the message. The sooner you start taking your appearance seriously the sooner you will be taken seriously.
Maybe trade in the fedoras for a proper pickup artist hat?
Who knows maybe you guys can help make marriage a viable institution again or bring back free speech to university campuses. We the Red Pill are standing right behind you, getting our dicks sucked by insecure sorority girls and calling you fat.
Truly a manifesto for our times.
http://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2015/03/snap-10.gif
Isn’t it WOMEN, who are supposed to be concerned with their appearance? And, men, traditionally speaking, are supposed to be above all that, at least for themselves?
I’m personally not attracted to the pumped-up, “jacked” look, either.
Heh.
Well, washable/reusable pads have been around awhile, anyhow, although I’ve never used/made any myself; it takes a lot of rinsing to get blood out, and washing them could be a real PITA. And sea sponges, which have to be cleaned and boiled and dried between insertions, are as close as it gets to reusable tampons, and for me, they’re a big NOPE — too leaky, too fussy, too much danger of toxic shock syndrome (as opposed to tampons, which when properly made, may not be reusable, but are at least fairly sterile before you open one.)
I have, however, recently acquired a DivaCup, and after a few early difficulties (damn, even the smaller of the two sizes takes a lot of squooshing and pushing to insert and remove properly!), I’m quite liking it. You don’t have to take it out, empty and wash it for a good 12 hours at a stretch; you can even use the toilet without having to remove it first. About the only thing you can’t do while wearing it is to have sex (it has to sit fairly low in the vagina so you can remove it again). What’s not to love?
OT: Didn’t know where to put this, but it’s a must-read for all the wankers out there who whine about chivalry being dead — usually in response to a woman not fellating them in exchange for holding a door open.
@Sooperdooper
I think they are called “aromantics” now …..
Nothing wrong with that, per se. So long as one makes it clear that they’re not looking for a relationship, and is prepared for the awkward messiness that occasionally happens when one of their partners falls in love with them anyway. I was specifically speaking of those people who leave behind a trail of broken hearts and false promises because they really don’t care about *anything* other than their own selfish desires. One can be aromantic without being a terrible person.
It’s interesting how these types claim that women and our problems are all about attention seeking, but they find it perfectly reasonable when an Eliot Rodger or Chris Harper Mercer decides to gun people down in part because women don’t pay them enough attention.
I’m just gonna leave this here —
“And every time one of these guys makes declarations about all the sex and sexual activities he engages in, something about that sends up a flare and raises a flag emblazoned with the word “LIAR”.”
Relevant. Also.
@Simon Russell “MRAs, on the other hand, seem like older, bitter burnouts who failed to learn much from whatever bad experiences they went through. Like Red Pillers who never matured. Maybe GayLube-whateverhisnamewas is upset by Esmay because he sees his future self in him”
Yeah I got that too; he’s essentially addressing his older self here.
You can lift day and night but at some point you”re going to be too old to manipulate young women into having anything to do with you. And that’ll be the point he goes full MRA and starts demanding society/government does it for him (for the sake of civilization of course…)
My God, can anyone imagine feminism giving this much attention to the issue of HOW TO GET A MAN? It’s sort of pathetic.
@Simon Russell: ask and ye shall receive.
This is a demographic survey of r/men’s rights subreddit.
I found it shocking how hard it confirms the stereotypes.
http://iamtallandthin.tumblr.com/post/82581947227/hexgoddess-total-queer-move-look-its-every
Whoops mobile cut off the link, my bad.
Mortarius, IIRC, there were scripts messing with that survey, which is why it came out so incredibly uniform on every single category.
Not that MRAs aren’t a joke anyway, but I think that particular source was skewed.
They also somehow managed to bork their only multiple choice question. Either that’s trying to say that 68% of total votes supported legalizing pot, which is a fucking useless thing to report, or nearly 3k people (the other questions all had that total) make up 68% of people answering — which would only work if that question was a pick only one, in which case WHY IS IT A BAR GRAPH?!?
Sorry, bad stats bother me. But to illustrate my point, I’ll take the first ten people who answer this and report on that tiny slice of WHTM —
Which of the following issues do you support?
– marijuana legalization
– homosexual marriage
– trans peoples’ rights
– abortion remaining legal
– socialized medicine
– minimum wage increase
– increased gun control
Can you highlight the most important if you decide to humor me, so I can do a quickie of the difference between select any and pick only one? Cuz even if the numbers themselves are garbage, the display of that question is mind boggling. (As is the grammar, but MRAs, grammar, MRAs, grammar… *shrugs* what can you do?)
Speaking of Dean Esmay anybody else thinks he kinda looks like J. Mascis of Dinosaur Jr. if he had a beard and his hair was red.
Uh. Both of the logic classes I’ve taken have been taught by women. They were good. One of them is working at the NSA now, because they do more advanced cryptography math stuff than anywhere else in the world and she’s fucking brilliant. TRP people don’t seem to have ever interacted with actual women. I also doubt most TRP people have any grasp on formal logic. They certainly don’t show it.
“for the love of pregnant MRA Jesus”
What.
If I had any art skills, I would make a drawing of pregnant MRA Jesus. Because I can picture and it’s both hilarious and terrifying.
They don’t do informal logic either, I had to impose a 5pt limit on each fallacy in Spot That Fallacy! because they’d manage a dozen plus red herrings (even breaking that one down!), and a few others, like, how many times can you score in the Gish Gallop category?
@Argenti Aertheri
Which of the following issues do you support?
– marijuana legalization
– homosexual marriage
– trans peoples’ rights
– abortion remaining legal
– socialized medicine
– minimum wage increase
– increased gun control
I support them all. It’s difficult to choose, but number 1 for me is abortion remaining legal.
No,
you
are
not.
No one — no one! — with any choice at all would choose to suck your dick.
Oh, did you mean you paid someone to pretend she was a sorority “girl” and suck your dick? OK, that’s a possibility. Assuming your mom didn’t dock your allowance again for not looking for work in a meaningful way.
@Felix Ray
Excellent point. “Sort of pathetic” is you being kind.
Although I do remember some advice in Ms. magazine about how to find a man. The article suggested several places to look and was illustrated with photographs.
Congress was one such place. Lots of guys there!
@Argenti: A bar graph is the only smart way to present that question because it isn’t a one-answer-only like the others: one can support all those causes.
That said, the 68% at the end enrages me too. Bad stats are a kick in the teeth to anyone who likes numbers.
(For your survey: I support all those causes *except* marijuana legalisation.)
A quick google through SRS reveals that apparently that survey’s data is considered unreliable:
http://ibin.co/w800/2Jm5G72ou9jd
Which is a shame.
Grrr, picture didn’t embed. Let me burn a candle to Katie and try again:
http://i57.tinypic.com/2vn3ryp.png