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Red Piller to MRAs: Stop eating cheese puffs out of your fedoras and LIFT!

Do you even lift, MRAs?
Do you even lift, MRAs?

Is the real problem with Men’s Rights Activists that they’re a bunch of sloppy fatties who don’t know how to dress?

That, at least, is the theory of one of the leading alpha dogs in the Red Pill subreddit — the legendary commenter known as GayLubeOil — and in a recent post he has some tough love for his wayward MRA brethren.

Oh, he agrees that MRAs are pretty much right about everything, issues-wise.

Anybody with any semblance of compassion or empathy would realize that men’s issues are serious, and women’s issues are cries for attention.

He even singles out one particular MRA as being especially wise.

King of Men’s Rights, Dean Esmay, makes excellent points that would convince any reasonable man.

Ah, but there’s just one problem, as GayLubeOil sees it. Or maybe two. Women don’t logic. They tingle. And MRA don’t make the ladies tingle.

[W]hat his royal highness needs to understand while he’s eating fudge popsicles and loafing around in cargo shorts is that a conversation with women is not about logic.

Also, women apparently have a thing against cargo shorts?

With the exception of Bruce Jenner, women are not men and therefore they don’t think like men. Women don’t care about logic they care about credibility, social standing, and tingles. To a woman it doesn’t matter what is being said, only who is saying it.

So says the mighty GayLubeOil.

Women are social creatures not logical creatures and that means they value social standing over reason. That’s the MRM’s big issue, they have no social standing.

That’s a nice way of saying that they’re all a bunch of luh-huh-looooooosers.

Women would rather reuse a tampon than have sex with a MRA.

He might have a point here, actually.

Until that changes and men’s rights stops eating cheese puffs out of their fedoras, they will never gain traction among women and will continue going nowhere, just like Dean Esmay in his crocs.

GayLubeOil has a bit of a fixation on poor Mr. Esmay, it seems.

So to all of the men’s rights activists that got trolled into reading this article, do us all a favor and stop being a chubster, speak with confidence and for the love of pregnant MRA Jesus go lift.

DO YOU EVEN LIFT

Your body is the message. The sooner you start taking your appearance seriously the sooner you will be taken seriously.

Maybe trade in the fedoras for a proper pickup artist hat?

Who knows maybe you guys can help make marriage a viable institution again or bring back free speech to university campuses. We the Red Pill are standing right behind you, getting our dicks sucked by insecure sorority girls and calling you fat.

Truly a manifesto for our times.

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Sunny Burn
5 years ago

These guys really can’t fathom anyone treating people any differently than they do, can they? They only value “attractive” people, so obviously so must everyone else.

CarolDanvers
CarolDanvers
5 years ago

I hate red pillers so much man…I’ve seen the view count and awful comments on their videos have been rising a lot. I’m so giving up dating and focusing on my career,I don’t want to end up with one of those awful frustrated men who will mentally abuse me and screw with my emotions. Thanks Dave for exposing them to the wider audience, at least I won’t be as naive as before anymore.

Leah Renee
5 years ago

Now I want to defend the MRAs, and it’s horrible and gross feeling.

Orion
5 years ago

“Pregnant MRA Jesus”?

zyvlyn
zyvlyn
5 years ago

*raises hands to face in mock horror*

Oh no! The coalition of assholes and douchebags is turning on itself! Who could have seen this coming!?

I’m confused though. Was the MRA strategy really to try to convince women to join their side? I would have thought they’d be trying to appeal to the rather large number of men who don’t know anything about their “movement” and haven’t realized how full of shit they are yet.

freemage
5 years ago

Sunny Burn | October 20, 2015 at 11:41 am
These guys really can’t fathom anyone treating people any differently than they do, can they? They only value “attractive” people, so obviously so must everyone else.

To be fair, for most of the manosphere, this actually does account for most of the sex they actually have–those individuals who are simultaneously physically attractive and fortunate enough to find a woman who is only looking for a penis with a pulse, are probably one of the largest sources of actual, consensual sex had by any manospherian, be they TRP, MRA, PUA, or whatever other unholy alphabet stew they identify as.

So, from his view, he’s right–the only way for an MRA to be successful, sexually, is to be so physically attractive that some women are willing to overlook their obvious personality flaws, at least for a brief period. (The notion of changing their odious personalities, of course, will never occur to him, since he shares that quality.)

Arthur Meyer
5 years ago

“Maybe trade in the fedoras for a proper pickup artist hat?”

I was expecting an ass hat or dunce cap when I clicked that link…

But alas, perhaps the reason why an MRA will never go to the gym is because of fear of the women who go to most gyms; women of various ages and backgrounds who come in all shapes and sizes that would probably outdo them in anything they do. But that’s why I like to go the gym, because you see all sorts of people from different walks of life trying to better themselves without smearing the person next to them about their progress.

Vanir (@Vanir85)
5 years ago

Yes, RedPillers, if MRAs get thin and handsome, women will accept whatever misogynistic crap they say and crawl obediently back to the kitchen. That’s how it works. Really. Women would willingly give up their freedom to any REAL and HANDSOME man that demanded it.

Seriously, do you *ever* logic, bros?

Snowberry
Snowberry
5 years ago

Superficially attractive traits are good at, well, attracting certain types of people, but if that’s all you’ve got, it’s not enough to keep people around long enough for a real relationship.

For douchebags who only care about getting their dick or vag wet and don’t care about having relationships or other people getting hurt, that’s a feature, not a flaw. Provided that said douchebag actually has superficially attractive traits, otherwise they’re just a loser at their own awful game.

In that sense, GayLubeOil has something resembling a point. But that hardly makes him(?) any less of a douchebag. And a smart douchebag is more dangerous to non-douchebags than a dumb one.

dhag85
5 years ago

They really do believe women and men are two different species, don’t they?

Moocow
Moocow
5 years ago

Beating a dead horse here but whaaaaaat? I was specifically told that the red pill is about self-improvement and not misogyny! I am shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!

Seriously, I hate the emotions/logic dichotomy. It’s A) completely illogical (which, since it’s tooted by sexist men, immediately contradicts itself) and B) is literally just an excuse to gaslight the shit out of anyone they deem to have a ‘feeble lady brain’.

Terrabeau
Terrabeau
5 years ago

We the Red Pill are standing right behind you, getting our dicks sucked by insecure sorority girls and calling you fat.

So, you’ll be doing exactly what you’ve been doing, then? Carry on.

Except for the part about the sorority girls. Please stop doing that.

Moocow
Moocow
5 years ago

Also, the obsession with ‘lifting’ amuses me to no end. I’m skinny, I never go to the gym (running/cardio is my exercise), yet I’ve been told by many people that I’m quite attractive. I’m also a huge nerd, and the people saying that are fellow nerds, but still, it’s funny how much ‘lifting’ doesn’t really matter because, what a fucking shock, different people like different stuff.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

David

Can we have a story about this please? It means we get to talk about Sandi Toksvig apart from anything

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/oct/20/womens-equality-party-unequal-society-detrimental-effect-on-all

Cthulhu's Intern
5 years ago

What if, instead of harassing innocent people, Red Pillers and MRAs just start having stupid fights on the Internet? That would be amazing!

Some sort of username
Some sort of username
5 years ago

“With the exception of Bruce Jenner, women are not men and therefore they don’t think like men. ”

Nothing like casual transphobia to launch into an “article”. Puke.

kylagb
5 years ago

I’m sick of these guys stating that by virtue of their genders, men are more logical and women more irrational or emotional. I was at the grocery store on Monday and because they were short-staff and only had two cashiers (it also happened to be unusually busy for a Monday), people had to wait in longer lines than normal. The only two people to lose their shit over this were the two guys in the lines. Both started complaining loudly, stamping and stomping their feet and one even stated “I shouldn’t have to suffer because someone called in sick!” Suffer?!! Talk about a sense of entitlement. Some men really just need to grow up and get over their sense of self-importance, their sense of being entitled to being the center of the universe. These MRAs and a lot of men seem to feel like they have the RIGHT to everything they desire in life.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
5 years ago

they care about credibility

So… man-logic > facts, did I get it right? Can I get my daily dose of attention? Please, or else I’l start turning into a hypergamic slut lizard!

And, yes, GayLubeOil, you might be super buff, but that wouldn’t make you one jot more credible to me. Smart people are scrawny and wear glasses, dont’ya know? /s
But I must admit… the username and the last paragraph almost make me thinks this is a poe.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

Anybody with any semblance of compassion or empathy

*informs MRAs that they are flabby losers*

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

My feelings about this article can be summed up thusly:
uuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH.

Well, at least there was a small corn-kernel of truth in this steaming pile of shit caked in sexism, transphobia, and toxic masculinity:

Women would rather reuse a tampon than have sex with a MRA.

Catalpa
Catalpa
5 years ago

If men are inherently logical and MRA logic is like, the logicalist logic there is, then how do they explain the men who think that MRAs are fucking ridiculous?

Oh right, manginas. Considering that I would lay money on the majority of dudes being completely perplexed by MRA rhetoric (not necessarily feminist even, just not 100% wilfully ignorant), they should maybe reconsider their definition of a “man”, because that’s a tiny portion of the population otherwise. Though I suppose it’s always been A Voice for (misogynistic white hetero cis) Men, it’s not exactly out of character for them to assume that a tiny minority of the population is and should be the ruling class and the default human being to which all others are (unfavorably) compared.

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

Like all right wing splinter movements, they hate each other.

The left is notorious for its circular firing squads, but those usually come down to strong disagreements about ideology that are treated as such.

On the right, they view the marginally different splinters as inferior on the basis of elements unrelated to ideology. They’d eradicate each other in an instant given a magic button that would spare them from ever having to DO anything.

ColeYote
ColeYote
5 years ago

With the exception of Bruce Jenner, women are not men

TIL Caitlyn Jenner is the world’s only transwoman.

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

Proudly announcing that you can only get women to touch you by playing on their insecurities is a great way to prove how attractive you are, I guess.

Arthur Meyer
5 years ago

@Moocow A truly smart body builder knows that having big pecs and biceps isn’t good. You have to work out the whole body in order to not injure yourself or strain certain groups. When they ask “Brah do u even lift?” I’m like “kid, do you even crunch and curl?”

@Catapla The irony is that the so called “mangina” turns out to strangely be… more of a man than the MRA man is.

sooperdooper
sooperdooper
5 years ago

For douchebags who only care about getting their dick or vag wet and don’t care about having relationships

I think they are called “aromantics” now …..

lacerta viridis
lacerta viridis
5 years ago

men’s issues are serious, and women’s issues are cries for attention.

Not getting laid enough is SERIOUS, you guys! So much more serious and meaningful than those trifling lady issues like rape and violence and poverty.

With the exception of Bruce Jenner, women are not men

Oh, fuck off.

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

“Bruh, I’ve just come from proving my superiority to other men by tricking some insecure young women into doing sexual stuff to me.” “Wow, that’s, uh… well honestly that’s pretty reprehensible, but okay. Generally when I have sex with women it’s because we’re mutually attracted to one another and we both expect to enjoy ourselves.” “Haha, bro, very funny; like women enjoy sex.” “Uh well they do… with me… Maybe not with you so much?” “Okay well whatever trans women are men.”

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Anybody with any semblance of compassion or empathy would realize that men’s issues are serious, and women’s issues are cries for attention.

BwahahahahaWHAT? No, bro, you got it all bass-ackwards. Blatant inequality means that you guys get all the curds, and we feeeeeemales are left with the crappy whey. Also, compassion and empathy? Don’t look for them in menzers. Or redpillers. They expect OTHERS to have them, while utterly lacking those same themselves. And then they boo-hoo over every smallest slight, most of them imaginary. To wit:

With the exception of Bruce Jenner, women are not men and therefore they don’t think like men. Women don’t care about logic they care about credibility, social standing, and tingles. To a woman it doesn’t matter what is being said, only who is saying it.

“Oh noes, women ignore us because we’re nobodies! And we don’t understand who Caitlyn Jenner really is, and the fact that even though she’s feeeemale now, she could still outlift us! The BITCHES!!!

“Well, we’ll show those bitches…we’ll LIFT! Then we’ll intimidate them into submission with our impressive new bodies! Then we’ll get our dicks sucked by sorority chicks who are too dumb to know that we’re still nobodies…but at least we’ll make ’em tingle!

“Hey…ladies…where you goin’? Stop! Bitches! Sluts! You’re supposed to suck our teeny peenies! STOP!!!”

Also, the reason we laugh at Dean Fucking Esmay isn’t because he’s a pudgy guy in short pants (although those pants ARE fucking ridiculous, and would be even on a Mr. Universe body). It’s because he’s an asshole full of the same loathsome shit as Homophobic Lube Oil himself. Shockingly, we don’t care so much what a guy looks like if he’s actually a decent chap. And it’s being a decent chap, not lifting, that makes a nobody into a somebody. Something this faceless troll (seriously, dude, I wanna see pix so I know who I’m laughing at!) could never be bothered to do, so he’s actually only ever getting his dick sucked by Fleshlights.

But shhhhh, no one else is supposed to know that.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

(sigh) reading the kind of shit GLO the TeRP-lord felt the need to share with the other cretins of the world makes me wish that those ‘insecure sorority ladies (won’t call them girls because they’re past the age of being children)’ would, for once, not pooh-pooh advice from those who have gone before them and instead always have to learn things the hard way. Willfully dismissing both what their guts are telling them deep down about these dudes, and accepting as truth that we’re all just old and bitter…might as well be “Don’t trust anyone over 30” with a poisonous chaser.

GLO needs to eat a lego sandwich. In a room without any chairs or other furnishings to sit/lay upon with the floor conveniently paved with legos. Barefoot.

And every time one of these guys makes declarations about all the sex and sexual activities he engages in, something about that sends up a flare and raises a flag emblazoned with the word “LIAR”.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Also…

Women are social creatures not logical creatures and that means they value social standing over reason. That’s the MRM’s big issue, they have no social standing.

…he who says shit like this is not a logical creature either, because this shit is neither logical nor even true. He is — drumroll please — A SOCIAL CREATURE WHO VALUES SOCIAL STANDING OVER REASON.

Also, this:

King of Men’s Rights, Dean Esmay, makes excellent points that would convince any reasonable man.

…is bullshit too. Deano’s not the king of anything. Even dimwitted drunken Paulie lords it over him, so no wonder he got out from under. And as for “excellent points”, I’m trying hard to find them…and finding only turds. Which tells you a thing or two about where these guys pull their “points” from.

[W]hat his royal highness needs to understand while he’s eating fudge popsicles and loafing around in cargo shorts is that a conversation with women is not about logic.

Neither is a conversation with Mr. Homophobic Possible Closet Case. But shhhh, don’t tell HIM that. You’ll huwt his widdle manwy feewings.

Women would rather reuse a tampon than have sex with a MRA.

This might be the only true thing he said. But we don’t want it with PUAs or Red Pillocks, either. Same shit, different outhouses.

(Also, O Logickal One, how the hell does one re-use a tampon? UGH.)

Your body is the message. The sooner you start taking your appearance seriously the sooner you will be taken seriously.

O RLY? Then why am I laughing at you, sight unseen? Could it be that your message is, all of it, just plain old bovine feces? And that free speech, which does exist on university campuses, will only be used to deride all of you dimwits no matter how often or in what physical shape you spout it?

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
5 years ago

Well dropping the trilby ( which is the actual hat they wear, not a Fedora) and the cheese poofs isn’t a bad idea….

The thing is, if anybody cares about social status it’s men. Men are the ones who want to date women or take jobs or do have hobbies or speak opinions really want because they are worried that their friends and peers (mostly other men) won’t approve.

And, yes, unless you are actually camping, most of us hate cargo shorts! I realize there will be objectors here but they are exceptions to the rule.

fotocopiadora
fotocopiadora
5 years ago

caitlyn jenner — the only trans person to ever exist, it seems

also, now that fedoras are getting dissed from all sides, will they finally be left alone to return to their rightful place? (that being the heads of melancholy private investigators of course)

Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
5 years ago

“Your body is the message. ”

He’s got that right!

amy
amy
5 years ago

All you have to do is look at the crime stat to see which gender acts more irrationally. If men don’t care about social standing than why are they going through all this crap.

Catalpa
Catalpa
5 years ago

I can’t speak for everyone, but I know I sure as heck would rather reuse a tampon than have sex with an MRA. Or a PUA. Or a MGTOW. Or a gator. Or pretty much anyone from the manosphere.

Of course, I use a DivaCup, and I reuse that all the time. That’s kind of the point of it, after all. Waaay better than tampons.

Moocow
Moocow
5 years ago

@Catapla

The look of betrayal on their face (or their text if it’s over the internet) when they realize that I’m not a sexist misogynist like them is easily worth a whole liter of male tears.

In all seriousness, there are friends I hang out with where I feel like I’m living life among the gorillas.

@Arthur Meyer

Hah, true that. The red pillers doing the ‘lifting’ probably know as much about fitness as they do about relationships.

Scribbles
Scribbles
5 years ago

These people are like parodies of themselves. How could anyone, with a straight face, say all of that shit? They sound like some kind of Ren and Stimpy take on misogyny during the first wave.

The only way anyone would look at that hot mess and go, “Wow, that sounds good to me” is if they were too fucking ignorant to actually learn for themselves. Even if I hadn’t studied anything academic, that shit trips all KINDS of brainwashing-cult red flags.

I know they’re essentially like a lamer, less relevant Klan, but I can’t stop laughing at them. They’re worthless to troll because they’re so stupid though. Just trying to get one of them to parse basic-ass shit is nearly impossible. I don’t know how to prune the language to a point where I can communicate ideas more complex than whatever memes they’ve been spoon-fed by youtube demagogues. I wish that were hyperbole. It isn’t. I can’t get off by watching dumb people struggling to read, even if they’re the equivalent of nazis.

That shit just makes me really sad.

Fang
Fang
5 years ago

Honestly, GayLubeOil has to be a long-term troll. I can’t believe anyone would seriously write this stuff.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

Ah, the core of the men’s “rights” issues – women are too stupid to sleep with them. Welp, I hope someone holds a conference over this burning issue. Oh wait, they did. And no one gave a shite.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

It cracks me up that think women are social and men aren’t. Have they never seen buddy cop movies? Never heard the term bromance? Never heard military vets romanticize how close knit their unit was? He mentions fraternities. What are those if not an example of men being social? Humans in general, are social.

Simon Russell (@Panthalassa_101)

It would be interesting to know the age and background of these Red Pill guys. I’m guessing most of them are in their late teens thru mid twenties, and that their numbers (hopefully) dwindle as they get older and develop more genuine self-confidence (as opposed to showboating/overcompensating) and an understanding of the complexity of, and mutual respect required for, mature romantic relationships. I have no data or anything to back that up, I’m just going off what others here have correctly identified as the massive insecurity and status-seeking behavior that their writings exhibit. I think that type of behavior tends to be more acute in younger folks.

Not that I’m excusing any of the vile stuff they espouse just because they might be young. Plenty of guys — myself included — were insecure and confused about relationships when we were younger (and even overcompensated by trying to play up our “masculinity”) without tipping over into full-blown Red Pill douchebaggery.

MRAs, on the other hand, seem like older, bitter burnouts who failed to learn much from whatever bad experiences they went through. Like Red Pillers who never matured. Maybe GayLube-whateverhisnamewas is upset by Esmay because he sees his future self in him, and is secretly terrified….

Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
5 years ago

“They’re old men in a young girls’ world” – which movie was that line from?

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@Bina

Well, if we assume that GLO-and-co have as much familiarity with feminine hygiene products as walking past these items on store shelves can provide, and despite all the manly posturing, have an utter lack of first-hand experience with vaginas in real life but plenty of porn – tampons and pads might seem possible to reuse after a good wringing-out? Or having heard a comment in passing about washable and reusable pads and newer ‘period technologies’ somehow gets warped in their mind into “all that female hygiene period stuff must be reusable nowadays!”

That’s all I got. Maybe others can get more creative? 😉

RoscoeTCat
5 years ago

I’d rather reuse SOMEONE ELSE’S tampon, than have sex with an MRA.

Dodom
Dodom
5 years ago

Unrelated, but relevant to the blog: My boyfriend just showed me an article (and tweets reacting to it) where Justin Trudeau speaks against Gamergate. Give it a few more hours and it might give lots of juicy quotes.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/justin-trudeau-the-self-declared-feminist-and-pro-choice-prime-minister-of-canada-who-wants-to-a6700976.html

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@RoscoeTCat

Thanks to feminism, NO ONE will ever be forced to make that choice! Feminism = an array of sole user options in feminine hygiene products that don’t ever get passed along and used by multiple individuals over time *and* protects the right to live free from high pressure demands for sex by MRAs. And a bunch of other stuff.

Halo Jones
5 years ago

“Women would rather re-use a tampon than have sex with an MRA”

Hmm, would I rather have the possibility of Toxic Shock Syndrome or the certainty of Toxic Cretin Syndrome?

Life choices are HARD you guys…

RoscoeTCat
5 years ago

@msexceptiontotherule: All very true:)

Kinda off-topic a bit, but…my spouse used to work for a chain drugstore, stocking shelves, among other things. He complained about having to stock feminine hygiene products…he said they leached all the moisture from his hands.

Karalora
Karalora
5 years ago

men’s issues are serious, and women’s issues are cries for attention.

To a woman it doesn’t matter what is being said, only who is saying it.

Self-Awareness Level: Still a big fat egg.

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