Is the real problem with Men’s Rights Activists that they’re a bunch of sloppy fatties who don’t know how to dress?
That, at least, is the theory of one of the leading alpha dogs in the Red Pill subreddit — the legendary commenter known as GayLubeOil — and in a recent post he has some tough love for his wayward MRA brethren.
Oh, he agrees that MRAs are pretty much right about everything, issues-wise.
Anybody with any semblance of compassion or empathy would realize that men’s issues are serious, and women’s issues are cries for attention.
He even singles out one particular MRA as being especially wise.
King of Men’s Rights, Dean Esmay, makes excellent points that would convince any reasonable man.
Ah, but there’s just one problem, as GayLubeOil sees it. Or maybe two. Women don’t logic. They tingle. And MRA don’t make the ladies tingle.
[W]hat his royal highness needs to understand while he’s eating fudge popsicles and loafing around in cargo shorts is that a conversation with women is not about logic.
Also, women apparently have a thing against cargo shorts?
With the exception of Bruce Jenner, women are not men and therefore they don’t think like men. Women don’t care about logic they care about credibility, social standing, and tingles. To a woman it doesn’t matter what is being said, only who is saying it.
So says the mighty GayLubeOil.
Women are social creatures not logical creatures and that means they value social standing over reason. That’s the MRM’s big issue, they have no social standing.
That’s a nice way of saying that they’re all a bunch of luh-huh-looooooosers.
Women would rather reuse a tampon than have sex with a MRA.
He might have a point here, actually.
Until that changes and men’s rights stops eating cheese puffs out of their fedoras, they will never gain traction among women and will continue going nowhere, just like Dean Esmay in his crocs.
GayLubeOil has a bit of a fixation on poor Mr. Esmay, it seems.
So to all of the men’s rights activists that got trolled into reading this article, do us all a favor and stop being a chubster, speak with confidence and for the love of pregnant MRA Jesus go lift.
DO YOU EVEN LIFT
Your body is the message. The sooner you start taking your appearance seriously the sooner you will be taken seriously.
Maybe trade in the fedoras for a proper pickup artist hat?
Who knows maybe you guys can help make marriage a viable institution again or bring back free speech to university campuses. We the Red Pill are standing right behind you, getting our dicks sucked by insecure sorority girls and calling you fat.
Truly a manifesto for our times.
These guys really can’t fathom anyone treating people any differently than they do, can they? They only value “attractive” people, so obviously so must everyone else.
I hate red pillers so much man…I’ve seen the view count and awful comments on their videos have been rising a lot. I’m so giving up dating and focusing on my career,I don’t want to end up with one of those awful frustrated men who will mentally abuse me and screw with my emotions. Thanks Dave for exposing them to the wider audience, at least I won’t be as naive as before anymore.
Now I want to defend the MRAs, and it’s horrible and gross feeling.
“Pregnant MRA Jesus”?
*raises hands to face in mock horror*
Oh no! The coalition of assholes and douchebags is turning on itself! Who could have seen this coming!?
I’m confused though. Was the MRA strategy really to try to convince women to join their side? I would have thought they’d be trying to appeal to the rather large number of men who don’t know anything about their “movement” and haven’t realized how full of shit they are yet.
To be fair, for most of the manosphere, this actually does account for most of the sex they actually have–those individuals who are simultaneously physically attractive and fortunate enough to find a woman who is only looking for a penis with a pulse, are probably one of the largest sources of actual, consensual sex had by any manospherian, be they TRP, MRA, PUA, or whatever other unholy alphabet stew they identify as.
So, from his view, he’s right–the only way for an MRA to be successful, sexually, is to be so physically attractive that some women are willing to overlook their obvious personality flaws, at least for a brief period. (The notion of changing their odious personalities, of course, will never occur to him, since he shares that quality.)
“Maybe trade in the fedoras for a proper pickup artist hat?”
I was expecting an ass hat or dunce cap when I clicked that link…
But alas, perhaps the reason why an MRA will never go to the gym is because of fear of the women who go to most gyms; women of various ages and backgrounds who come in all shapes and sizes that would probably outdo them in anything they do. But that’s why I like to go the gym, because you see all sorts of people from different walks of life trying to better themselves without smearing the person next to them about their progress.
Yes, RedPillers, if MRAs get thin and handsome, women will accept whatever misogynistic crap they say and crawl obediently back to the kitchen. That’s how it works. Really. Women would willingly give up their freedom to any REAL and HANDSOME man that demanded it.
Seriously, do you *ever* logic, bros?
Superficially attractive traits are good at, well, attracting certain types of people, but if that’s all you’ve got, it’s not enough to keep people around long enough for a real relationship.
For douchebags who only care about getting their dick or vag wet and don’t care about having relationships or other people getting hurt, that’s a feature, not a flaw. Provided that said douchebag actually has superficially attractive traits, otherwise they’re just a loser at their own awful game.
In that sense, GayLubeOil has something resembling a point. But that hardly makes him(?) any less of a douchebag. And a smart douchebag is more dangerous to non-douchebags than a dumb one.
They really do believe women and men are two different species, don’t they?
Beating a dead horse here but whaaaaaat? I was specifically told that the red pill is about self-improvement and not misogyny! I am shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!
Seriously, I hate the emotions/logic dichotomy. It’s A) completely illogical (which, since it’s tooted by sexist men, immediately contradicts itself) and B) is literally just an excuse to gaslight the shit out of anyone they deem to have a ‘feeble lady brain’.
So, you’ll be doing exactly what you’ve been doing, then? Carry on.
Except for the part about the sorority girls. Please stop doing that.
Also, the obsession with ‘lifting’ amuses me to no end. I’m skinny, I never go to the gym (running/cardio is my exercise), yet I’ve been told by many people that I’m quite attractive. I’m also a huge nerd, and the people saying that are fellow nerds, but still, it’s funny how much ‘lifting’ doesn’t really matter because, what a fucking shock, different people like different stuff.
David
Can we have a story about this please? It means we get to talk about Sandi Toksvig apart from anything
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/oct/20/womens-equality-party-unequal-society-detrimental-effect-on-all
What if, instead of harassing innocent people, Red Pillers and MRAs just start having stupid fights on the Internet? That would be amazing!
“With the exception of Bruce Jenner, women are not men and therefore they don’t think like men. ”
Nothing like casual transphobia to launch into an “article”. Puke.
I’m sick of these guys stating that by virtue of their genders, men are more logical and women more irrational or emotional. I was at the grocery store on Monday and because they were short-staff and only had two cashiers (it also happened to be unusually busy for a Monday), people had to wait in longer lines than normal. The only two people to lose their shit over this were the two guys in the lines. Both started complaining loudly, stamping and stomping their feet and one even stated “I shouldn’t have to suffer because someone called in sick!” Suffer?!! Talk about a sense of entitlement. Some men really just need to grow up and get over their sense of self-importance, their sense of being entitled to being the center of the universe. These MRAs and a lot of men seem to feel like they have the RIGHT to everything they desire in life.
So… man-logic > facts, did I get it right? Can I get my daily dose of attention? Please, or else I’l start turning into a hypergamic slut lizard!
And, yes, GayLubeOil, you might be super buff, but that wouldn’t make you one jot more credible to me. Smart people are scrawny and wear glasses, dont’ya know? /s
But I must admit… the username and the last paragraph almost make me thinks this is a poe.
*informs MRAs that they are flabby losers*
My feelings about this article can be summed up thusly:
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Well, at least there was a small corn-kernel of truth in this steaming pile of shit caked in sexism, transphobia, and toxic masculinity:
If men are inherently logical and MRA logic is like, the logicalist logic there is, then how do they explain the men who think that MRAs are fucking ridiculous?
Oh right, manginas. Considering that I would lay money on the majority of dudes being completely perplexed by MRA rhetoric (not necessarily feminist even, just not 100% wilfully ignorant), they should maybe reconsider their definition of a “man”, because that’s a tiny portion of the population otherwise. Though I suppose it’s always been A Voice for (misogynistic white hetero cis) Men, it’s not exactly out of character for them to assume that a tiny minority of the population is and should be the ruling class and the default human being to which all others are (unfavorably) compared.
Like all right wing splinter movements, they hate each other.
The left is notorious for its circular firing squads, but those usually come down to strong disagreements about ideology that are treated as such.
On the right, they view the marginally different splinters as inferior on the basis of elements unrelated to ideology. They’d eradicate each other in an instant given a magic button that would spare them from ever having to DO anything.
TIL Caitlyn Jenner is the world’s only transwoman.
Proudly announcing that you can only get women to touch you by playing on their insecurities is a great way to prove how attractive you are, I guess.
@Moocow A truly smart body builder knows that having big pecs and biceps isn’t good. You have to work out the whole body in order to not injure yourself or strain certain groups. When they ask “Brah do u even lift?” I’m like “kid, do you even crunch and curl?”
@Catapla The irony is that the so called “mangina” turns out to strangely be… more of a man than the MRA man is.