The Red Pill take on “Fat Chicks” is usually, well, let’s just call it strongly negative.
So I was a little surprised to find a post on the Red Pill subreddit suggesting that fat women aren’t necessarily the worst things in the world. The surprise went away as soon as I saw the explanation:
A woman can lose 20 pounds in three months but she can’t unsuck 20 dicks, ever.
And I can’t unread the phrase “unsuck 20 dicks” either, alas.
You see, as the lovely Red Pill individual who calls himself windowkicker explains, if you’re looking for a future mother to your children, fat girls aren’t always the wrong choice, so long as they’re only slightly fat, and practically virginal.
If you find an attractive girl with a low N-count but is a few pounds overweight don’t worry too much about it. Red Pillers should take this option every day over a girl with low bodyfat but is a self confessed party girl with a high N-count and here’s why-
Brace yourself.
If you have been lifting and taking care of yourself when you start the relationship she will naturally fall into line with your lifestyle; this is on the condition that you are maintaining frame and employing light dread.
“Light dread” is a Red Pill euphemism for “grinding away at her insecurities by making her think you could leave her at any moment.”
Once you have demonstrated your superior SMV [Sexual Market Value] she will start to take better care of herself automatically. … for the majority of instances, a woman will get the vibe off you that she needs to lose some weight without you saying anything. Subtleness should be applied if you do approach the subject of weight loss but for the most part this is unnecessary (again, employ dread).
Sluts, by contrast, can never unsluttify themselves. Once they’ve been with an alpha they are pretty much ruined for good decent men like the amoral abusive creeps who read the Red Pill subreddit.
Once she has been alpha widowed there is no way back to re-establishing her ability to pair bond and raise stable offspring.
I’m not saying to go out there and be Captain save a hoe, if she doesn’t respond, next her immediately, but for a girl who is on the borderline and you want to raise a family, don’t waste all your time looking for skinny bitches who are going to jump at the next dishwasher repairman that calls at your house.
Huh. Apparently those Maytag repairmen aren’t really the loneliest men in town.
In the comments, other Red Pillers share their highly enlightened thoughts on the weight issue.
Antariusz reports on his efforts to “hard dread” his current girlfriend into dropping a lot of weight.
I’m kinda taking that approach with this girl I’ve started seeing, she’s pretty much everything I’d want in a woman, 20 with a low n-count, and wicked smart, but her weight is a huge issue (no pun intended), I’m getting what I want out of the relationship, and if she improves, awesome, if she doesn’t, well I’ve invested less time and emotion into her than any of my older blue pill relationships, so it’s all good. …
I steer almost the conversation at least once a day toward diet or working out.
Pirateninj4 advises him to
Treat [her] like you know you you’re better. Make her working out a requirement and employ dread if she doesn’t do it.
Walk away if she’s not complying.
blkbullmentor meanwhile, warns that
Dread can backfire.
If she’s a lazy bitch then she’ll refuse to compete. At that point, dump her ass as it’s easier to train a new one than fix a lazy one.
nantucketghost suggests you aim for younger “girls.”
Girls you can mold. They are willing to please an alpha. New clothes, change hair style, makeup, etc. Get them into a gym, workout and bond, run, etc. You can turn an HB5/6 into an HB8/9 with very little effort and after you do so, they will feel like they owe you and be forever grateful to you.
The women who start out with the looks and thinking they are the shit are used to the betas falling all over her to do things. She’s the one night stand. She wants to sleep with the alpa, but she’ll never give up the beta and being waited on hand and foot. This woman will end up unhappy and unfulfilled in life.
redadactyl suggests that his comrades don’t try to mold women who are more than a little bit overweight.
I feel like this is possible If she is 10-25lbs over MAX. I unwittingly did the conversion on my LTR pre TRP and got her to drop 15lbs and it was great. I kinda just had to suck it up at the beginning because I saw the potential. I don’t know if I could do it again today.
Moose_war, more pessimistic than most of his colleagues, laments how easily “humble, low self esteem virgin” fat girls can be transformed into evil, sassy sluts.
A lot of fat girls stay virgins into their 20s and then just get fucked one night and it opens up this weird world tinged with hunger for sex and validation. So they get a beta boyfriend or they get fucked, and the more male validation they get, the sassier they get, and the fatter they get, and the sassier they get.
The horror!
Until one day they are a morbidly obese 45 year old woman who looks 55 and who no man is having sex with anymore and she is nasty as fuck to everyone around her, to the cashier at the store, to her male co-workers, to the skinny pretty female co-workers.
Or maybe they end up still fat, still sassy, still having sex, and still glad they never hooked up with any of the bitter gaslighting dickheads who fill the Red Pill subreddit.
H/T — r/TheBluePill
@justlikeheaven
I don’t see it as mean spirited to point out that I still feel sorry for him, his wife and daughter even if I don’t like his presentation. I feel it’s being honest and doesn’t obfuscate my feelings towards this situation.
idk I guess if I got a terminal cancer diagnosis and someone told me “I hate you but I guess it sucks for your family that you’re going to die” I’d feel like it was kinda mean.
@deniseeliza
There’s a few differences.
1) Criticizing things someone has said is not the same as saying you hate them.
2) Posting something in the comments of a website that the person probably doesn’t read isn’t the same thing as going up to a person and saying it to their face. The only way he’ll find this is if he goes hunting for it, or if his ‘fans’ send it to him.
@deniseeliza
For me if someone said it like that I’d feel that he/she is capable of going past prejudice and feel empathy for others. I guess I’m weird like that.
“And I’m just sitting here like “At least my rabbit vibrator knows where my clitoris is”.”
+1 internet
@Argenti:
I accept this internet with pride, and I will love it and feed it and take it for walkies.
(hand not mine)
Oh cmon, people totally send these comments to MRAs and Gamergaters all the time. Of course they’d send this stuff to him. Where do you think the whole idea of brigading came from?
Yes, I am aware that the words I used are not the literal same words as the words other people used. I happen to think it is unkind to criticize a person in the same breath as you are mentioning their newly discovered terminal cancer diagnosis.
Maybe some people deserve unkindness. You could try to make that argument if you wanted. But it’s still mean.
I guess you are. Because I’d think that if someone really wanted to express empathy for me, they’d find it in their hearts to not also call me a bad person in the very same breath. It seems pretty back-handed to me. Maybe I’m the weird one?
@OoglyBoogles
I just think that at this point enjoyment of what he does(For the record I agree with you on his presentation) or commentary on past things he said is irrelevant to bring up in the face of such an illness.
Is this because of what I said?
A Cranky Spider- Exactly! Imagine the psychological damage they would inflict on their daughters! If I have any children, I won’t want their ilk anywhere near my daughters, let alone have one as their father. No bloody way.
“Oh cmon, people totally send these comments to MRAs and Gamergaters all the time. Of course they’d send this stuff to him. Where do you think the whole idea of brigading came from?”
I don’t know what brigading is, so I have no idea where it came from. But I’m talking specifically about people posting a message on a website such as this and not sending messages to him.
“Yes, I am aware that the words I used are not the literal same words as the words other people used. ”
They weren’t just not “the literal same words.” You strongly implied that the people posting on this website are doing the moral equivalent of walking up to him and saying “I’m glad you’re dieing.”
“I happen to think it is unkind to criticize a person in the same breath as you are mentioning their newly discovered terminal cancer diagnosis.”
I disagree. I don’t see it as unkind.
Almost surreal how grotesque subredditers like this can talk of “pair bonding” in this context. No.
I’m literally going to go delete my dating profile right now because spending the rest of my days celibate and not even dating is preferable to ever encountering one of these cretins in the flesh.
So these dudes actually think they’re the alpha ones?
Oh.
All this talk of cancer is hitting awfully close to home for me right now, as my grandmother had just passed away yesterday from ovarian cancer. She’d been undergoing chemo over the past two years, but evidently her body just couldn’t cope anymore.
At least she’s not in pain anymore…
Paradoxical Intention | October 16, 2015 at 3:47 pm
freemage | October 16, 2015 at 3:38 pm
On the post itself:
I got the n-count reference from the context, but “alpha widowed”? What the fuck is that supposed to even mean?
_____
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
_____
I think it might mean “this woman was fucked by an alpha and then he ‘dumped’ her”, or it has the same connotations these guys have with black men in that “one is too many (because I can’t compete with the preconceived notions I have about this guy I’ve never met)”.
_____
According to Roissy and his fanboys (they comprise half the Manosphere), black men are automatically alphas no matter what, so any woman who got dumped by a black guy is automatically an “alpha widow”.
Strange thing is, Roissy is a racist and thinks black peeps are beneath him so how that squares with black guys being automatic alphas I’m not quite sure.
Freddymurray
I’m sorry for your loss.
freddymurray — sending warm thoughts your way. Name your cuteness of choice and I’ll find a pic of a baby one (that includes baby rays, they are by far the cutest things in the sea)
As a nurse can I just say…getting sick with a life-threatening or terminal illness doesn’t make most people meaner OR nicer…it just makes them, if anything, more of what they already are. You are totally allowed to criticize the political views of a sick person if you disagree with them, argue with their moral stance, whatever. They’re STILL THEMSELVES. While it’s undeniably horrible that someone has terminal cancer, and I am so sorry for their suffering AND that of their family, if they’re behaving like a jerk, they’re still behaving like a jerk, and unless they have lost their faculties and are literally not responsible for their actions, they’re still accountable for being awful.
A box of kittens for all who need a warm fuzzy right now. Please take one.
@nicoleluna
If you like, give Women’s Aid a call. They have a 24-hour hotline:
0808 2000 247
http://www.womensaid.org.uk/
Also, you might want to check out this website for more organizations:
http://thisisabuse.direct.gov.uk/need-help
When I got into a difficult situation with the man I had just moved in with, I called a domestic violence hotline and they were really helpful. They helped me to understand what was going on and what my options were. I kept my conversations with the hotline a secret, of course. When I decided to leave, I had my ducks in a row. He never saw it coming.
Your situation is different, but I’m sure that a women’s hotline can help you with emotional support, practical advice, and legal advice. They’ve heard it all before.
I know that this is a scary, tough time. I’m sending positive thoughts your way.
@freddymurray
I’m sorry to hear that your grandmother died. Take good care of yourself.
Yikes, that article is a veritable avalanche of Evo Psych yarn spinning.
nicoleluna-I am sorry that having to go through this. 🙁 That guy is a real arsehole. He absolutely disgusting for abusing your trust like that. But kudos to you for doing all the right things and standing up to him by going to the authorities. Stay strong! I am sure everything will work out fine and he stopped and will be made to face the consequences of his shitty behaviour. Lots of internet hugs! ((((((((nicoleluna)))))))))
Being quite unfit I started running with a group of people after work (usually have to take a shorter route). If I weren’t thinking much about it, it might seem like a good activity to invite someone along to. Having read that I definitely won’t be.
I’d say it’s fine if both parties were genuinely into being physically active prior to getting together, but aside from the obvious manipulative aspect there’s something weird and gross about fixating on a partner’s physique, accompanying them to workouts while monitoring their progress.