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Red Piller: Go for chubby girls over sluts, because you can grind down their self esteem enough that they’ll lose weight

Fellas! It's not necessarily the end of the world if your date eats some food.
Fellas! It’s not necessarily the end of the world if your date sometimes eats food. Sometimes.

The Red Pill take on “Fat Chicks” is usually, well, let’s just call it strongly negative.

So I was a little surprised to find a post on the Red Pill subreddit suggesting that fat women aren’t necessarily the worst things in the world. The surprise went away as soon as I saw the explanation:

A woman can lose 20 pounds in three months but she can’t unsuck 20 dicks, ever.

And I can’t unread the phrase “unsuck 20 dicks” either, alas. 

You see, as the lovely Red Pill individual who calls himself windowkicker explains, if you’re looking for a future mother to your children, fat girls aren’t always the wrong choice, so long as they’re only slightly fat, and practically virginal.

If you find an attractive girl with a low N-count but is a few pounds overweight don’t worry too much about it. Red Pillers should take this option every day over a girl with low bodyfat but is a self confessed party girl with a high N-count and here’s why-

Brace yourself.

If you have been lifting and taking care of yourself when you start the relationship she will naturally fall into line with your lifestyle; this is on the condition that you are maintaining frame and employing light dread.

“Light dread” is a Red Pill euphemism for “grinding away at her insecurities by making her think you could leave her at any moment.”

Once you have demonstrated your superior SMV [Sexual Market Value] she will start to take better care of herself automatically. … for the majority of instances, a woman will get the vibe off you that she needs to lose some weight without you saying anything. Subtleness should be applied if you do approach the subject of weight loss but for the most part this is unnecessary (again, employ dread).

Sluts, by contrast, can never unsluttify themselves. Once they’ve been with an alpha they are pretty much ruined for good decent men like the amoral abusive creeps who read the Red Pill subreddit.

Once she has been alpha widowed there is no way back to re-establishing her ability to pair bond and raise stable offspring.

I’m not saying to go out there and be Captain save a hoe, if she doesn’t respond, next her immediately, but for a girl who is on the borderline and you want to raise a family, don’t waste all your time looking for skinny bitches who are going to jump at the next dishwasher repairman that calls at your house.

Huh. Apparently those Maytag repairmen aren’t really the loneliest men in town.

In the comments, other Red Pillers share their highly enlightened thoughts on the weight issue.

Antariusz reports on his efforts to “hard dread” his current girlfriend into dropping a lot of weight.

I’m kinda taking that approach with this girl I’ve started seeing, she’s pretty much everything I’d want in a woman, 20 with a low n-count, and wicked smart, but her weight is a huge issue (no pun intended), I’m getting what I want out of the relationship, and if she improves, awesome, if she doesn’t, well I’ve invested less time and emotion into her than any of my older blue pill relationships, so it’s all good. …

I steer almost the conversation at least once a day toward diet or working out.

Pirateninj4 advises him to

Treat [her] like you know you you’re better. Make her working out a requirement and employ dread if she doesn’t do it.

Walk away if she’s not complying.

blkbullmentor meanwhile, warns that

Dread can backfire.

If she’s a lazy bitch then she’ll refuse to compete. At that point, dump her ass as it’s easier to train a new one than fix a lazy one.

nantucketghost suggests you aim for younger “girls.”

Girls you can mold. They are willing to please an alpha. New clothes, change hair style, makeup, etc. Get them into a gym, workout and bond, run, etc. You can turn an HB5/6 into an HB8/9 with very little effort and after you do so, they will feel like they owe you and be forever grateful to you.

The women who start out with the looks and thinking they are the shit are used to the betas falling all over her to do things. She’s the one night stand. She wants to sleep with the alpa, but she’ll never give up the beta and being waited on hand and foot. This woman will end up unhappy and unfulfilled in life.

redadactyl suggests that his comrades don’t try to mold women who are more than a little bit overweight.

I feel like this is possible If she is 10-25lbs over MAX. I unwittingly did the conversion on my LTR pre TRP and got her to drop 15lbs and it was great. I kinda just had to suck it up at the beginning because I saw the potential. I don’t know if I could do it again today.

Moose_war, more pessimistic than most of his colleagues, laments how easily “humble, low self esteem virgin” fat girls can be transformed into evil, sassy sluts.

A lot of fat girls stay virgins into their 20s and then just get fucked one night and it opens up this weird world tinged with hunger for sex and validation. So they get a beta boyfriend or they get fucked, and the more male validation they get, the sassier they get, and the fatter they get, and the sassier they get.

The horror!

Until one day they are a morbidly obese 45 year old woman who looks 55 and who no man is having sex with anymore and she is nasty as fuck to everyone around her, to the cashier at the store, to her male co-workers, to the skinny pretty female co-workers.

Or maybe they end up still fat, still sassy, still having sex, and still glad they never hooked up with any of the bitter gaslighting dickheads who fill the Red Pill subreddit.

H/T — r/TheBluePill

 

 

 

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alaisvex
alaisvex
5 years ago

@Leda

Too bad this Virginal Chubby Barbie comes with accessories such as BS-blocking headphones and a pair of boots made for walking.
If I was alone in the world with a redpiller I’d fully regain my virginity so hard that I’d turn into a hymen.

Lol. Isn’t it ironic how they complain that women who are less than HB8’s in their book don’t appreciate the attention that redpillocks give them, but then these same pillocks turn around and gleefully explain that women who are less than HB8’s will have such low self-esteem that they’ll be easy to dread game? This is just one more on their long list of contradictions.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

I’m glad the police listened to you, Nicola. Agreeing with those who say stay with a friend though, to be on the safe side. Bottom line is that this guy is/seems unpredictable and yet will not hesitate at exercising vengeance (hence the nude sharing). Best to err on the side of caution.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@autosoma

Toilet-papering their parents house comes with a high probability of seeing them dragging their son out of the basement to clean it up, which would be entertaining to watch! Now if Fnoicby the Cat 5 Kaijuthey’re living in dorms we’d need to find other ways to incorporate sass-building activities for the group. As for the effectiveness of TP-ing dad’s garage, depending on the dad, that would more than likely be a “grab the popcorn” event. At least it would be if the dad is anything like mine, they give an average of 2 warnings to “knock it off” and they do “wait until they get home” if you decide to be foolish enough to keep up the thing they warned about.

@Fnoicby the Cat 5 Kaiju

Perhaps, but it’s hard to discern ‘tone’ from text sometimes.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Leda Atomica | October 17, 2015 at 2:55 pm
If I was alone in the world with a redpiller I’d fully regain my virginity so hard that I’d turn into a hymen.

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s598/Paradoxys3DS/moisturize%20me_zpsm4t00def.png

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

PI
What lovely nightmare fuel, it’s ok I didn’t need sleep anyway

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Well, if you’d like something to cheer you up, I actually managed to re-do my design, and it’s now up on the We (Kinda) Hunted the Mammoth store!

leftwingfox
5 years ago

Paradoxical Intention:
http://giphy.com/gifs/doctor-who-school-david-tennant-5PXiPEbUoLsw8

…but it’s screamingly funny.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention

Mwhahaha!

@alaisvex

I also love that they constantly complain about how “manipulative” WOMEN are. A side of hypocrisy with that paradox!

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Leda Atomica | October 17, 2015 at 7:05 pm
I also love that they constantly complain about how “manipulative” WOMEN are. A side of hypocrisy with that paradox!

Oi. Leave me out of this.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

When men do it, it’s not manipulative, it’s maintaining frame!

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

PI
That’s awesome, I love it.

Don’t you guys know the Manosphere (including The Red Pill) motto? “Men can do no wrong, everything women do is wrong” silly feeemales.

alaisvex
alaisvex
5 years ago

@WWTH,

And when women do it, it’s a sign of BPD or bipolar or NPD or whatever mental illness the self-appointed psychiatrists over at the redpill central feels liked doling out today.

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
5 years ago

Soooooo turn her into the thing you hate the most in the world?

misseb47
misseb47
5 years ago

Nicolaluna- I am glad that things worked out at the police station and that they were supportive. 🙂 I think this will be sorted soon, but take the advice of staying at a friend’s house for a few days as precaution. Let us know how things go. *hugs*

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Red Pillocks: “Women manipulate! Only men love unconditionally!”

Red Pillocks: “Manipulate your woman into becoming someone you’ll ‘love’! Don’t be unconditional with her!”

(And when a woman gets mad at them for being bloody impossible, they’ll call her crazy, too.)

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

Blergh, I just love when I randomly insert the name of the user that I intended to address 2nd while still in the middle of the part for the 1st person!

CCD
CCD
5 years ago

Oh, thank goodness I’m a total slut with a high “N-count”, at least by these losers’ standards. It makes it easy to scare them off from even trying. It helps that I’m also already past the “wall”, in their eyes.

What scares me the most about all of this talk is that some of these dudes do this with the goal of settling down and raising offspring. That creeps like this could be anyone’s father… *shudders*

Jen
Jen
5 years ago

My ex could give them a few pointers. He didn’t have a problem with my weight until he turned 21 and I discovered a problem with his drinking. Then he ended up making me feel like shit while having me on an extremely strict diet and pushing for exercising with him at his pace, all the time. Becaise of him, I refuse to do any type of exercise activity with guys I date now. It’s my alone thing instead or with friends.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Jen
I’m sorry that happened to you, I’m glad you got out of that relationship.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@Nicola Luna

I’m so glad that it went well. Congratulations on having the strength to tell the police your story. I hope that a chat with the police will make him stop.

I once lived in an apartment building that was targeted by an arsonist. Three times he set fire to something very near the building. The third time, he set fire to a tree right outside the building. I heard from neighbors that the police had a talk with the arsonist, who turned out to be a young guy. We lived there for a couple more years and had no more problems. I hope that you’re as lucky as I was.

Stay strong. I’m sending you good wishes, and I’m sending hugs if you want them.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@Paradoxy:
Since you’ve brought up the topic of the Zazzle store, the only thing I can see on there is the googly-eye binder. Am I using the site wrong?

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@NicolaLuna:
I’m really glad it went well. Please keep us informed as to how it went, even if it’s only a “it’s been three months and he’s left me alone” update. All my best wishes.

Bryce
Bryce
5 years ago

@jen
Feeling sick with exhaustion in front of a significant other isn’t going to be that much fun. Obviously your ex had an agenda; generally speaking, the person doing the inviting should be happy to adjust their pace seeing that you’re both meant to enjoy it. Basic courtesy.

The female friend who originally dragged me along to the running meetup would make comments about how it wasn’t challenging but she was going for my sake, like it was interrupting her normal regime or something (gee, thanks…).

TheLulzWatch
TheLulzWatch
5 years ago

Wetherby | October 16, 2015 at 1:14 pm

“Most likely because non-virgins will realise what truly terrible lays they are.

I can’t imagine someone who fundamentally hates women and who actively discusses abuse techniques with like-minded people online is going to be the world’s most attentive and conscientious lover.”

This.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

@NicolaLuna

Likewise, happy to hear that the police took you seriously. Keep on documenting and let’s hope he sees sense when the police talk to him. Let’s hope this is the wake up call that makes him leave you alone and think twice about hurting anyone else.

NicolaLuna
NicolaLuna
5 years ago

He messaged me this morning to say that he’s sorry, he’s deleting my number and that he’ll never contact me again. I’m so relieved. All the weeks of constant harassment are hopefully over. I’ll let you all know if he sticks to it.

I just wanted to say a massive thank you for all the support and advice. It’s really helped.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Nicolaluna

That’s brilliant. One quick addendum. Don’t respond to his message. Not even a terse acknowledgement.

If he gets the impression that contact engenders a response it increases the risk of him contacting you in future.

Wetherby
Wetherby
5 years ago

What he said. And that really is brilliant news – well done for going through with it.

autosoma
5 years ago

@nicolaluna… did the cops speak to him before he sent the sort of sorry message, I ask that mainly because they should have pointed out that he was not to contact from that point on. Please be cautious and stay safe…

NicolaLuna
NicolaLuna
5 years ago

I haven’t responded. And yes the police spoke to him so he shouldn’t really have sent that last message but I’m not going to report it unless he messages me again.

Verily Baroque
Verily Baroque
5 years ago

@NicoleLuna

So glad to hear that nothing worse happened! Let’s hope he sticks to it and doesn’t try contacting you again. I also second Alan’s advice on not responding to his message.

Considering how insistently he harassed you, his reaction surprised me. Please be careful. I don’t want to sound pessimistic and diminish your relief, but the terms “calm before the storm” and “false sense of security” unavoidably come to mind. I’m not asking you to be paranoid, but please keep an eye on your surroundings, both offline and online. Even if he keeps his word and doesn’t contact you anymore, he might continue impersonating you online.

Let’s hope that I’m too suspicious and that he really will leave you alone from now on. Best of luck and please keep us updated – even if it is to inform us in two months that everything is fine.

Verily Baroque
Verily Baroque
5 years ago

I guess I should have refreshed the page before posting my comment. I swear NicolaLuna’s comment wasn’t there when I started writing my last comment… :-/

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Nthing the relief and caution, Nicola.

EJ (The Other One) | October 18, 2015 at 2:12 am
@Paradoxy:
Since you’ve brought up the topic of the Zazzle store, the only thing I can see on there is the googly-eye binder. Am I using the site wrong?

Yeah, Zazzle’s weird. The designs take a day or so to show up on the shop, apparently. They exist, and they’re there, but they take a while to show. : P

You can find them later under “Products”.

Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
5 years ago

The Manosphere says feminists never protest the misogyny found in Muslim countries. Will the Manosphere back this lady?

http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/swedens-feminist-foreign-minister-has-dared-to-tell-the-truth-about-saudi-arabia-what-happens-now-concerns-us-all/

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

I’m pretty much a follower of ‘Realpolitik’ when it comes to foreign policy, but our kow towing to KSA is one of the few things that annoys me.

It’s true that the Kingdom is a major market, especially for arms sales but they’re such a bunch of shits it’s just not worth it.

I’m not sure how we deal, the Al-Saud family are a nucleus of stability in that part of the world. But perhaps as we cultivate relations with Iran we could drop hints that Iran might be a better custodian of the twin sites (and also be interested in our military tech)

Personally I’d be quite happy to see the whole Saud family dangling from lamp posts whilst we play “Death of a Princess” on a continuous loop.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Oops, I obviously meant to type “stepping on lego”

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

Um, okay, Alan.

autosoma
5 years ago

@Alan…. the only thing I can think of as to why we kowtow to the KSA is a cold war strategic reserve mentality, the crude is a vile sulferous sandy sludge only good for heavy fuel, but there us lots of it. The post second world war “lack of oil broke the German way machine” was applied to the Soviets do we had to keep as much oil out if their hands as possible. Now we want to keep it out of China’s hands. That’s just one element, the whabists serve as a foil and a counter point to the Ayatollahs and the Al-Sauds serve as a conduit for Israel Palestine relations allowing Egypt and Jordan to distance themselves from the issues at hand. All in all their good little western puppets and we turn a blind eye to their transgressions and evils. In my opinion

Orion
5 years ago

It’s actually 100% possible to unsuck a dick, but the Elders of Gayon told me I can’t tell you how.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

I quite like the House of Saud. Vast educational expenditure, breakneck modernisation, large welfare state, and most importantly of all, forcing a backwards and theocratic priesthood to accept some slight liberalism in the rights of women and children, and thereby loosening the strangehold that priesthood has over society.

It’s going at a snail’s pace and they’re a horribly brutal dictatorship who are uncomfortably closely linked to some very ugly groups, don’t get me wrong, but… they’re moving their nation in the right direction. Given the direction many places are currently moving, whether in the region or elsewhere, Saudi is almost a beacon of hope.

Isn’t that a gloomy phrase?

History Nerd
5 years ago

@EJ Universities in Saudi Arabia are pretty good if you’re studying math, physics, or engineering.

Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
5 years ago

Somehow this joker spins “returning to hispanic roots” as “converting to Islam”. Uh, er, whaaaa?

I wonder if he’s an MRA who feels his ACTUAL original roots “too pagan goddess worshippy” so he’s hitching his wagon to Cordoba.

I’m not familiar with the online Islamosphere, whether its just as bad as the Manosphere or not. Is it a rabbit hole I don’t want to go down? I predicted Roosh’s coming out as a believing Shia two years ago. All the signs were there. Now his fanboys be like, “Bro! What happened.” They didn’t even have to read between the lines. The connection was blatantly obvious to anyone with an average IQ. Countless Manospherians have championed Islam’s “masculine values” .

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

I read quite a lot of the online terrorist material. Luckily I’m white and I’m supposed to be doing an M.Litt in terrorism studies so I can probably do that and avoid Guantanamo.

Must confess I am so tempted to wrote to the people behind “Inspire” the AQ magazine and suggest they have a puzzle page.

“Oh Brothers, I feel we would draw even more to jihad against the kaffir if we had a sudoku”

History Nerd
5 years ago

It’s possible, I suppose, that the type of Christianity Spain exported to its colonies was influenced by pre-Reconquista Islam. But Medieval Iberian Islam is pretty far removed from modern Islamist terrorist groups.

Does Inspire do movie reviews? I’m interested in what they think about Jurassic World and Goosebumps.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@Virtually

Although there are a lot of similarity between MRAs and religious fundamentalists (of all stripes), Roosh isn’t Muslim. He’s violently Islamophobic. He just pulled that one out of his ass as a failed gotcha a la #NotYourShield.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

*There is a lot, even.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@Alan

Personally I’d be quite happy to see the whole Saud family dangling from lamp posts whilst we play “Death of a Princess” on a continuous loop.

Oops, I obviously meant to type “stepping on lego”

Come on, dude, you know better than that. Not funny.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Yeah, sorry. But it’s a regime that really bugs me. Sending school girls back into a burning building for the sake of “morality”. Ugh.

They’re just ISIS with a better credit score.

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

You don’t unsuck the dick, the dick unsucks you.

I’ll find the door, thanks.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

The Manosphere says feminists never protest the misogyny found in Muslim countries.

And as usual, the Manure-sphere is wrong. There are Muslim feminists, believe it or not, protesting just that, and throughout the Muslim world. And as usual, these brave armchair warriors aren’t supporting THEM, are they now? Nope…they’re just using someone else’s oppression to bash us into not protesting our own.

Fuck those guys, seriously.