The Red Pill take on “Fat Chicks” is usually, well, let’s just call it strongly negative.
So I was a little surprised to find a post on the Red Pill subreddit suggesting that fat women aren’t necessarily the worst things in the world. The surprise went away as soon as I saw the explanation:
A woman can lose 20 pounds in three months but she can’t unsuck 20 dicks, ever.
And I can’t unread the phrase “unsuck 20 dicks” either, alas.
You see, as the lovely Red Pill individual who calls himself windowkicker explains, if you’re looking for a future mother to your children, fat girls aren’t always the wrong choice, so long as they’re only slightly fat, and practically virginal.
If you find an attractive girl with a low N-count but is a few pounds overweight don’t worry too much about it. Red Pillers should take this option every day over a girl with low bodyfat but is a self confessed party girl with a high N-count and here’s why-
Brace yourself.
If you have been lifting and taking care of yourself when you start the relationship she will naturally fall into line with your lifestyle; this is on the condition that you are maintaining frame and employing light dread.
“Light dread” is a Red Pill euphemism for “grinding away at her insecurities by making her think you could leave her at any moment.”
Once you have demonstrated your superior SMV [Sexual Market Value] she will start to take better care of herself automatically. … for the majority of instances, a woman will get the vibe off you that she needs to lose some weight without you saying anything. Subtleness should be applied if you do approach the subject of weight loss but for the most part this is unnecessary (again, employ dread).
Sluts, by contrast, can never unsluttify themselves. Once they’ve been with an alpha they are pretty much ruined for good decent men like the amoral abusive creeps who read the Red Pill subreddit.
Once she has been alpha widowed there is no way back to re-establishing her ability to pair bond and raise stable offspring.
I’m not saying to go out there and be Captain save a hoe, if she doesn’t respond, next her immediately, but for a girl who is on the borderline and you want to raise a family, don’t waste all your time looking for skinny bitches who are going to jump at the next dishwasher repairman that calls at your house.
Huh. Apparently those Maytag repairmen aren’t really the loneliest men in town.
In the comments, other Red Pillers share their highly enlightened thoughts on the weight issue.
Antariusz reports on his efforts to “hard dread” his current girlfriend into dropping a lot of weight.
I’m kinda taking that approach with this girl I’ve started seeing, she’s pretty much everything I’d want in a woman, 20 with a low n-count, and wicked smart, but her weight is a huge issue (no pun intended), I’m getting what I want out of the relationship, and if she improves, awesome, if she doesn’t, well I’ve invested less time and emotion into her than any of my older blue pill relationships, so it’s all good. …
I steer almost the conversation at least once a day toward diet or working out.
Pirateninj4 advises him to
Treat [her] like you know you you’re better. Make her working out a requirement and employ dread if she doesn’t do it.
Walk away if she’s not complying.
blkbullmentor meanwhile, warns that
Dread can backfire.
If she’s a lazy bitch then she’ll refuse to compete. At that point, dump her ass as it’s easier to train a new one than fix a lazy one.
nantucketghost suggests you aim for younger “girls.”
Girls you can mold. They are willing to please an alpha. New clothes, change hair style, makeup, etc. Get them into a gym, workout and bond, run, etc. You can turn an HB5/6 into an HB8/9 with very little effort and after you do so, they will feel like they owe you and be forever grateful to you.
The women who start out with the looks and thinking they are the shit are used to the betas falling all over her to do things. She’s the one night stand. She wants to sleep with the alpa, but she’ll never give up the beta and being waited on hand and foot. This woman will end up unhappy and unfulfilled in life.
redadactyl suggests that his comrades don’t try to mold women who are more than a little bit overweight.
I feel like this is possible If she is 10-25lbs over MAX. I unwittingly did the conversion on my LTR pre TRP and got her to drop 15lbs and it was great. I kinda just had to suck it up at the beginning because I saw the potential. I don’t know if I could do it again today.
Moose_war, more pessimistic than most of his colleagues, laments how easily “humble, low self esteem virgin” fat girls can be transformed into evil, sassy sluts.
A lot of fat girls stay virgins into their 20s and then just get fucked one night and it opens up this weird world tinged with hunger for sex and validation. So they get a beta boyfriend or they get fucked, and the more male validation they get, the sassier they get, and the fatter they get, and the sassier they get.
The horror!
Until one day they are a morbidly obese 45 year old woman who looks 55 and who no man is having sex with anymore and she is nasty as fuck to everyone around her, to the cashier at the store, to her male co-workers, to the skinny pretty female co-workers.
Or maybe they end up still fat, still sassy, still having sex, and still glad they never hooked up with any of the bitter gaslighting dickheads who fill the Red Pill subreddit.
H/T — r/TheBluePill
Hrrmmmmm….(raises one eyebrow – the one on the right, for reasons.) Makes me want to start an outreach program for the ‘girls who can be molded’, the girls who want to ‘suck 20 dicks someday’, the girls who are virgins or have a low notch count, the girls who believe they’ve been approached by dumbass redpillians and need assistance in getting rid of them, and the girls who are being gaslighted with going to the gym. I’d call it “Sassy Miss Katie – Teaching ‘Girls’ to give no fucks, and preventing disastrous interaction with redpillians all day every day”.
Seriously, may the RP’s spend eternity barefoot in an afterlife paved with legos, and have their lives be filled with stubbed toes and shin bruises from falling over shit/tripping on things in the dark.
Also, ‘notches’ on the bedposts could just mean that the lady is into ‘shabby chic’ style decor, but I am hesitant to suggest that any of these guys have actually been in a bedroom belonging to a female who isn’t related to them by blood or by marriage. Hard to determine what condition a headboard is in if they are denied the chance see it ever. (!)
Oh never mind, I actually misinterpreted that passage. I guess he’s actually saying “break up with your girlfriend if she doesn’t respond to your emotional abuse.”
@dhag85: thanks for the hugs! A little kindness helps enormously 🙂
@nicolaluna if you have call divert you can divert his number to mine… but that would probably cause more grief. My wife had a similar issue when we first got it together, lasted a year of her being harrased, even in our wedding night, it finally ended on new years eve when I asked to talk to him, DW gave me the phone and offered to meet him.
The cops do have specific support units for victims make sure they out you in contact.
When I read this, a big part of me wants to fat-shame right back. I just know many of these men don’t “take care of themselves”, (hell, some find washing their butts to be a bother!), yet expect us to. So the more base part of me wants pictures, to say “you are a scrawiny weasle, why would you be wanted?” “you’re more than 10 lbs over weight yourself, but that’s ok?” etc.
This vile crap drags me down to their level. which is really sad.
Thank you so much for the offer autosoma, but as you said it’ll probably cause more grief. If the police aren’t helpful I might consider that though.
N count means notch count. So sad that I know that.
If any of their ridiculous schemes actually worked, they wouldn’t have to keep coming up with new ones.
I am kind of disappointed that now not even fat girls can feel safe that they’ll never have to encounter these trash-piles in people clothes, though.
Ugh. the comment about “molding girls” is so gross. Especially since they’re not doing it the way a lot of people do. They’re not using girls to mean women since they outright compare “girls” to women. Red Pillers couldn’t be more toxic if they tried.
“don’t waste all your time looking for skinny bitches who are going to jump at the next dishwasher repairman that calls at your house.”
Wow. Just wow. Speechless.
But women are the manipulative ones who are incapable of love yeah whatever red pill pr*cks. I hope their girlfriends/wives will leave soon and other women will avoid them.
Nicoluna, iogrey and everyone else who had such d***ish partners, all the hugs are coming your way.
Dhag85
That’s awesome. We need that here in America.
@Cerberus, interesting points your making, I guess inexperienced men search out less experienced as it serves to boos their shallow shitlordery. Even at school, listening to the other garbage from 12-15 year old boys, I used to think “you’re all talking crap and don’t know what you’re going on about”.
And yet there are people who claim that “red pill is about self-improvement, not misogyny”….
@NicolaLuna
Fuck that guy! Hugs if you want them and I hope you can get this guy out of your life safely.
@MissyL, your story makes me think of all the diet and fitness marketing out there that tells us that if you don’t look like a supermodel, it’s YOUR fault because you just aren’t trying hard enough. I really wish there was more social awareness about these lies. Everybody’s body works differently and some women will never be a size 4 no matter what they eat.
On another note, I wonder why these dudes don’t fear that their previous hb5/6 – new hb8/9 will upgrade them? I mean of I lost a ton of weight and had a bunch of new attention I’d probably ditch the abusive loser. But that’s just me. If the skinny hb9 is always running off with dishwasher repairmen and such, what’s to prevent the newly skinny hb9 from doing the same? For being the logical gender these guys don’t logic so well.
@NicolaLuna
Just wanted to send some hugs, since everyone gave really useful advice already. And though I don’t think the police will be as quick as it should (though not to discuss the merits), after he has impersonated you, I really don’t think he’s going to just weasel out of this.
Best wishes!
“Light dread”. Only be 1/10 of an asshole!
So, so close to getting it, but then…
If she’s a lazy bitch then she’ll refuse to compete.
…we get a Self Awareness 404.
Here, “lazy” actually means “she sees right through your pathetic attempt to turn your relationship into North Korea and nopes on outta there in a red nopevertible”. “Unmotivated” might be a more accurate term. She’s probably looking at the OP, and thinking what’s the point?
Because the great prize, the reward, for all that hard work and dieting and getting up early in the morning and gym visits, is…..more of the same. More contempt. More gaslighting. More dread. These guys can’t and won’t stop hating women. They’re addicted to making women feel as miserable as them. Just look at nantucketghost’s dire prediction that “[conventionally attractive women] will end up unhappy and unfulfilled in life”, because something something alphas and betas and dishwasher repairmen. That has absolutely no basis in reality, and contradicts their beloved maxim that HB9s have the most cushy lives. It makes them feel better to fantasize that the hot women who rejected them will someday end up alone and unhappy.
True motivation to get in shape has to come from inside, from a place of wanting to be that version of yourself, not from a place of feeling insecure and unworthy. It can’t be someone else’s idea.
Train. Fix. They sound like they’re talking about Furbys and obsolete laptops. Just throw it on the landfill and get another! It’s a very consumerist approach to relationships.
Hugs to NicolaLuna, logrey, and everyone else dealing with horrible exes and partners who’ve harped on their weight. It’s an impossible game to win. I had a boyfriend in college who weighed 130 lbs. soaking wet, and he couldn’t stand that I outweighed him by all of 5 pounds (and I’m tall, too). He literally couldn’t shut up about it. He was one of those guys who thought women should never weigh over 110 pounds, no matter what. Over time he managed to convince me I was hefty and unlovable because I didn’t fit his ideal stick-thin mold. (It never occurred to me to say “Then why the hell are you dating me?”) It got to the point where I was afraid to eat anything around him, because anything more than a bowl of iceberg lettuce would invite commentary.
Come to think of it, that might be why women downing a pint of ice cream after a breakup is such a popular trope. They’re not drowning their sorrows, they’re making up for lost time.
Dangit, blockquote fail.
NicolaLuna: You’re definitely doing the right thing–it’s pretty clear he can’t accept your decision, so escalation is likely if you don’t take some sort of action, and confronting him on your own would clearly be a risk.
BTW, photoshopped nudes should be a potential avenue for libel/slander. I don’t know if the guy is worth suing (he may not have enough to be worth a lawyer’s time), but even the threat might be enough to make him back down, even if the cops don’t. Many lawyers will do an initial consult for free; it might be worth your time to talk to one.
On the post itself:
I got the n-count reference from the context, but “alpha widowed”? What the fuck is that supposed to even mean?
Too bad for these cocktail weenies, they’re roughly ten years too late to get with LowSelfEsteem!Fat!Paradoxy. Now I’m just OkayEsteem!Fat!Paradoxy.
Of course, ten years ago, I had a ton of hangups about men because I had just gotten out of an abusive situation, so I most likely would have still avoided them like The Plague.
And of course now I’ve hit their magical “wall”, and they wouldn’t fuck me anyway.
Either way, I still win because I didn’t have to deal with this cacophony of simpering chucklefucks.
I wonder as well. I mean, “chubby” porn is a huge genre, so it must be making some cash from dudes who fap to it.
I think it might mean “this woman was fucked by an alpha and then he ‘dumped’ her”, or it has the same connotations these guys have with black men in that “one is too many (because I can’t compete with the preconceived notions I have about this guy I’ve never met)”.
@ Nicolaluna & Freemage
Hi
It wouldn’t amount to defamation but would fall foul of this perhaps
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-law-to-tackle-revenge-porn
@freemage, actually the libel/slander route could be a pretty good punishment. Say Nicolaluna sues for damages & costs, cockboy can’t/won’t pay, follow up by selling to debt collection agency, cockboys credit reference tanks with a CCJ and he’ll never be able to buy an Xbox one, renew his mobile contract, get sky movies on demand. Fuck jail tanked credit is a worthwhike punishment now
@freemage they weren’t Photoshopped. I sent them to him after a few weeks of talking to him.
@alan that revenge porn thing is interesting, it only came out this year? I’m thinking he’ll fall foul of that law and harassment.
About the ‘do fat women have less sex?’ thing. I recently read one thing that said that underweight and ‘normal’ weight women have fewer sexual partners on average, fwiw.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/very-short-men-have-fewer-sex-partners/
(scroll past the height data)