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This 45-second video demolishes the MRA delusion that women have gotten too powerful in contemporary society

This video, put together by the UK edition of Elle magazine, imagines what the worlds of politics and culture might look like if all the men were to suddenly vanish from positions of power and influence.

Naturally, it’s a bit UK-centric in its examples, but, well, POINT MADE, regardless.

Your move, MRAs.

H/T — Quartz

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spacelawn
9 years ago

Considering MRA’s they’ll just dismiss it as feminist lies.

Also, that “song” in the background was fucking trash. Here i thought that kind of noise wasn’t possible to make.

mockingbird
mockingbird
9 years ago

@PoM – I think that I saw as many as I did because it aired (for me) in the middle of a weekend day and we didn’t have cable.

Still, the only three I recall at all are the two we discussed and one in which everyone was on medication.

I’m sure your recollection’s the right one.

dhag85
9 years ago

The MRA response is basically this:

1. Women don’t want to work hard. They choose easier professions than the ones shown in the video.

2. The video contains only easy and high paying professions (contradicting counterargument 1, but whatever) – why not look into male oriented jobs that are dangerous difficult instead. For example construction workers! And, uh.. coal miners! …. and many more!!

3. There’s democracy. Therefore there’s no such thing as discrimination or socialization. Check mate, feminists!

4. BIAS!

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

Personally, I think it’s great that women have access to such powerful positions, but I don’t think this is accurate to say that this debunks the MRA position or necessarily represents it well. Perhaps the positions further down on the line, but not the positions I’ve seen so far.

WTF is this supposed to mean?

brian
brian
9 years ago

spacelawn:
oh, thanks for clearing that up for me! i thought i enjoyed it, but I guess i was wrong…

loquora
9 years ago

@Kyrie

I will never understand people who do this. Because clearly you’re showing how much you hate articles that you feel are just meant to generate clicks… by clicking on them. And you left a comment! That will certainly teach David not to post more “clickbait”. You’d better click on a couple of ads too, just to make sure he really gets the message.

dhag85
9 years ago

@brian

I could’ve sworn I quite liked it too. :p

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

POM,
I don’t know, but it’s certainly MRA nonsense since they used that old argument that it’s all women’s fault if there are more male elected officials because women vote for male candidates. Never mind that to get the name recognition and funding it takes to get the nomination for a major political party you have to already be connected and powerful. Never mind that female politicians are subjected to sexist scrutiny that makes running and winning seem impossible. We just must not be trying hard enough.

brooked
brooked
9 years ago

@loquora

I think Kyrie was just making a joke about the phrasing of the article’s title and it was a pretty solid joke. Plus, I have to say I’d be baited to click on “This Cat Attacking A MRA Will Warm Your Heart”. It sounds adorbs.

brooked
brooked
9 years ago

@loquora

I love your communist frog btw.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
9 years ago

I like the song too. If you don’t like a song then cool but don’t call it trash unless the song is about murdering people or something like that.

I don’t understand MRAs and other people like them how could you constantly brag about men being superior then turn around and say men can’t control their urges and it doesn’t take much for women to rule everything, they just use their butts and boobs? So if men are doing everything to impress women, doesn’t that mean we are superior?

Jarnsaxa
Jarnsaxa
9 years ago

I too liked the song.

Go ahead, complain about clickbait. I’ve noticed that when people do that the posts end up being very popular…

Jo
Jo
9 years ago

My reaction was the same as Kyrie’s to the title. I’m not short circuiting my keyboard with tears or anything, but that buzzfeedy style of clickbait headline does jar a bit.

I read every entry here, it wasn’t the headline that brought me in. In fact, I actively avoid anything written in that format normally.

dhag85
9 years ago

What David’s done is really just that he posted a video and accurately described it in the headline. If that’s “clickbait” then I suggest the word has no meaning.

anon
anon
9 years ago

I haven’t clicked on the video because I’m bracing for incredibly sexist comments.

anon
anon
9 years ago

That was depressing.

freemage
freemage
9 years ago

I read the ‘clickbait’ comment the same way as broked’s–I just thought it was pointing to the wording, especially the “This [photo/image/story] does [amazing thing].” Hell, the site used to be littered with ads that used the exact same format, often to stories/photogalleries that were pretty damned offensive. The key difference is that it can’t be ‘clickbait’ if it’s not being used to lure people to the site–the only folks clicking that headline are the ones who planned to come here, or who have signed up for the mailing list. I can’t remember any time I saw a Buzzfeed-style ad for We Hunted the Mammoth, or even Manboobz.

zyrusticae
zyrusticae
9 years ago

“I haven’t clicked on the video because I’m bracing for incredibly sexist comments.”

“That was depressing.”

Yeah… I don’t know what I expected. Then again, just the sheer number of dislikes on the video would have told you all you needed to know. :/

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

May as well stick this here.

A school falling short of teaching boys not to rape. The failure being leaving out the ‘not’.
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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

Er, obviously didn’t mean the tractor, cool as it is. Here’s the real story

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/oct/14/trojan-horse-teachers-gave-pupils-handout-saying-wives-cannot-refuse-sex

Scribbles
Scribbles
9 years ago

I didn’t know Batman got into farming.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
9 years ago

@Scribbles
Of course he did. That adds to the mystery.

Robert
Robert
9 years ago

PoM, your reference to that episode of “Sliders” reminded me of the movie version of “A Boy and His Dog”. When the protagonist* is in the underground dystopia and is told that he will be providing viable sperm for the city’s women, he immediately imagines that he will be having intercourse with them. Next scene, a young couple are being married, and nearby protagonist is strapped to a chair with a milking machine fastened to his crotch. I think that part of the movie might be part of Harlan Ellison’s original story.

Continuing the science fiction theme, the idea of women – excuse me, Women – worldwide as a hidden authority shaping all of civilization through their wicked, wicked wiles made me think of John Norman’s Priest-Kings of Gor. The idea of women neither desiring nor enjoying sex is one of those beliefs that must be protected from objective reality, lest it suffer spontaneous existence failure. Even I know that women experience sexual desire, and I have no personal experience of it.

Scribbles
Scribbles
9 years ago

A Boy and His Dog was such a good movie. It’s like what would happen if anarcho-capitalism ever gained traction somehow: We would all die, horribly, and nothing would be left but a dustbowl made out of turds and leftover psychic talking animals from wacky military experiments.

Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

Er, obviously didn’t mean the tractor, cool as it is. Here’s the real story

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/oct/14/trojan-horse-teachers-gave-pupils-handout-saying-wives-cannot-refuse-sex

1) Well now we know what’s in your internet history.

2) “School teachers promoted Islamic indoctrination” is a headline that the rightwingers over here would mess their pants over. They yell about it endlessly but nothing’s ever come of it. How credible are the “Trojan horse” claims over there in Birmingham? Because with all that I’ve said in the last few sentences, I am very well primed to be extremely skeptical.