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JudgyBitch: Women make babies, and men make Large Hadron Colliders

Legos for girls: Not a new idea (from a lego ad in the 1980s)
Legos for girls: Not a new idea (from a lego ad in the 1980s)

So our old friend Janet “JudgyBitch” Bloomfield has written a rather silly post on how men are a bunch of STEM geniuses while women are basically designed to make babies. (On average.)

You’ve heard all this nonsense before, I am sure:

Human achievement depends on the tenacity and ingenuity of men, and their willingness to shoot for the moon (or a comet). Our mastery of the human condition, an end to suffering and poverty and disease and destitution requires technology. Water doesn’t magically clean itself, food doesn’t spring forth from the Earth without coaxing (at least not in sufficient amounts to feed all of us), the oceans do not replenish, diseases do not cure themselves and our ability to communicate and connect with each other, from one side of the planet to the other, all depends on technology.

Technology is designed, built, installed, maintained, repaired and operated almost exclusively by men. Without men, we would be living in grass huts, eating mud.

I’ll give her credit for at least suggesting a slightly novel “solution” to women (allegedly) being a bunch of stupid-heads compared to men. And by “novel” I mean “novel” only to MRAs.

Here is what I propose: we socialize girls to be more like men, and more like exceptionally intelligent men, in particular.

As she sees it, that means (among other things) making girls play with legos instead of Barbies (or any other traditionally girly toys), forcing them all to play Dungeons & Dragons (no, really), and requiring that they

study logic and rhetoric and traditional game theory, to sharpen their ability to work through a problem using reason and the empirical method.

Huh. I’m thinking that most of the dudes in the Men’s Rights movement must have slept through that part of their male socialization.

JB’s proposals are weirdly totalitarian, envisioning a mandatory one-size-fits-all approach to education for girls. And the misogyny underlying her glorification of “male” ways of thinking is fairly obvious. Her attempts to challenge traditionally gendered ways of raising girls fall more than a few steps short of feminism.

Sure, feminists have long fought against the pervasive gendering of toys. But they’re also into, you know, kids making choices for themselves. Encouraging girls to play with legos? Great! Forcing all girls to play exclusively with Legos, because you want them to become STEM geniuses? Not so great. Some girls want to play with legos; others prefer dolls. As do some boys.

For what it’s worth, JB describes her proposal as, yes, a “modest proposal,” so it’s not clear if she actually thinks that raising girls the same way as boys is a good idea, or if it’s one akin to eating babies.

Speaking of babies, here’s my favorite line in her post:

[T]he ultimate expression of femininity is a baby, and the ultimate expression of masculinity is the Large Hadron Collider.

Assuming this is true — and Janet Boomfield said it, so it must be! — just imagine what humans could accomplish if men and women worked together.

Yes, I’m talking about the ultimate in technology: the Large Baby Collider.

Oh, wait, we already have one of those; it’s called the Men’s Rights Movement.

But that’s a pretty primitive model. Here’s a prototype for an improved Large Baby Collider. It’s still a long way away from perfect — you may notice that half of the babies have been replaced by dogs — but it’s still a wobbly step in the right direction.

H/T — @TakedownMRAs

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Lani Kai Akers
5 years ago

I LOL’ed at the Large Baby Collider…. thank you.

amor
amor
5 years ago

Ugh, women are considered to have developed prehistoric agriculture (which makes sense given their role in subsistence hunting/gathering societies as the “gatherers”… they would have had a lot more time and familiarity with the plants themselves).
So I dunno why we would have been stuck eating mud. Read a fucking book, Judgy.
I realize this is like 1% of the stupidity in her post but it stuck out to me.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I don’t understand why so many people think kids need to play with either “girl” toys or “boy” toys. Left to their own devices, I think most kids will play with both. My parents weren’t particularly concerned with what toys went with what gender. I liked Barbies and I liked to build robots out of Legos. My brother liked trucks and My Little Ponies.

Cartogriffi
Cartogriffi
5 years ago

Shame there aren’t any women working on the Large Hadron Collider.

Oh wait! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Yeah, what would silly ladybrained women ever know about atomic physics?
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Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

(Whoops, didn’t realise the picture would be that big, sorry.)

(Sitenote: Why is Curie not mentioned at all on Wiki’s atomic physics or atomic theory pages? That’s like leaving Einstein off the relativity page.)

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

OR, OR, and just here me out here, Janet: We could just stop enforcing gender roles altogether, and encourage people do go do what they want to do as long as they don’t want to hurt anyone else or somehow keep anyone else down.

I mean, look at My Little Pony (Specifically, Friendship is Magic): Every pony has a special talent, and they use that talent to help others.

Some ponies like to bake, some ponies like to science, and both of them do great things for the world in their own special ways. We don’t need to force girls to grow up to be “masculine”, we need to allow kids to grow up however the fuck they want instead of forcing them into rigid gender roles one way or the other.

On another note: Ada Lovelace, Marie Curie, Rosalind Franklin, and a few other women of science would like a word with you about this “men are science and men did all the things” bullshit.

AnAndrejaPejicBlog (@A_Pejic_Blog)

Yeah, well, all those men who had a beer to relax after inventing shit have women to thank.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7538264/Men-owe-women-for-creating-beer.html

Arden Almquist
Arden Almquist
5 years ago

Actually, the more we understand about primitive humans the more it appears that the women hunted as much as the men did. Also that female leadership was more common than it is today.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/14/early-men-women-equal-scientists

Sarah
5 years ago

I feel like now is the right time to mention that my mom helped build the Large Hadron Collider, SO THERE

Sarah
5 years ago

I mean honestly, lots of women were/are involved with the LHC

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I also don’t understand why making bodies and building society have to be mutually exclusive. My grandma was a welder during WWII and she had six kids and also raised her niece.

Lots of female scientists have kids. Lots of male scientists have kids and don’t just leave it to the wife to do all the baby raising and housework.

Samsara
Samsara
5 years ago

I’m sure Rosalind Franklin, Grace Hopper, Sally Ride, Marie Curie, to name a few, would agree with JudgyBitch.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Of course, the MRA ideology also throws a lot of men under the bus by tying men’s worth directly to their careers. Are disabled men worthless? Retired men? Unemployed men? Men who do menial jobs? Men who do stereotypically feminine work? Stay at home dads? You gotta love how MRAs pretend to abhor traditional gender roles while simultaneously promoting them.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

I’ll just leave these here:
http://www.women-inventors.com
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/inventors/women.shtml

My brother likes Legos and watches Barbie with me, he was the smartest kid in his classes, he’s a engineer now and has two sons and he has absolutely no problem with them watching my little pony and playing with dolls and we were both raised by a single mother! Suck it JB and other misognists/MRAS!

And JB, STEM isn’t “masculine” they’re for everyone and women and girls can be whatever they want to be (as long they’re not hurting themselves or others of course) that’s part of feminism we don’t force anything down peoples’ throats but we need to show everyone that everything that is traditionally feminine is awesome and there is nothing wrong with it. (And also stop saying “girly” and other phrases like its bad too)

Don’t be whining about feminists/people in general demonizing masculinity when you are doing the same thing to femininity, hypocrites.

And I’m not saying women are superior but we can give life and raise those men; those inventers, builders, etc.

I don’t understand JB or those other female Mras if women are so inferior and don’t use logic why don’t they shut up? I know the answer it’s because they’re liars who think they’re the superior ones and only want attention and money.

Gosh I been real serious these last few posts here are some brain bleach.
http://www-static.weddingbee.com/pics/53947/baby_animals.jpg
http://www.funcage.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/FunCage-cute-baby-animal-7.jpg
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-01/enhanced/webdr06/8/22/enhanced-buzz-30136-1389237295-0.jpg

Judas Peckerwood
Judas Peckerwood
5 years ago

“…the oceans do not replenish… all depends on technology.”

So the oceans depend on technology to replenish, do they? That’s some science-y thinking right there.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger
“Of course, the MRA ideology also throws a lot of men under the bus by tying men’s worth directly to their careers. Are disabled men worthless? Retired men? Unemployed men? Men who do menial jobs? Men who do stereotypically feminine work? Stay at home dads? You gotta love how MRAs pretend to abhor traditional gender roles while simultaneously promoting them.”

I just now thought of “11 signs you might be a mra”
http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/2013/02/22/11-signs-you-might-be-an-mra/

dlouwe
5 years ago

ALRIGHT, WOMEN, NO SCIENCE FOR YOU. WE CANT HAVE YOUR PERIOD ATTRACTING BEARS TO THE LAB. JUST MAKE A DINNER AND LET MEN THINK ALL OF THE THINGS.

** Years pass **

DID I HEAR SOME DISCOVERING HAPPENING IN HERE? THERE’S NO POSSIBLE WAY A WOMAN COULD HAVE MADE A DISCOVERY. IN FACT, I’M CERTAIN THAT I AM THE ONE WHO DISCOVERED IT. GET BACK TO CLEANING BABIES OR WHATEVER.

** Years pass **

WOMEN, WHY ARE YOU SO BAD AT SCIENCE? IT’S LIKE YOU WEREN’T EVEN TRYING THIS WHOLE TIME. STOP DOING THAT WEDDING AND LEARN SOMETHING USEFUL FOR ONCE

Tanya Nguyen
5 years ago

Wait, you mean she is admitting that if treated like men (or boys) in classrooms, women can be just as capible as men in STEM?

but i thought they were not brained correctly to be STEM? Yes, it’s sexist at its core, but isn’t judy pretty much admitting our argument?

Catalpa
5 years ago

There are not enough words in English to describe how fucking ignorant JB’s little rant on how men do ALL THE THINGS and women just squirt out babies, so I am not even going to address that. However, this:

Without men, we would be living in grass huts, eating mud.

Is sufficiently stupid enough to mock, but not mind-bogglingly ignorant enough to require me to have to come up with new paradigms of mockery just to contain it. So…

I mean, I’m no anthropologist, (I’m actually a lady engineer, despite the crippling handicap of my ladybrain), but I’m pretty damn sure at no point in human history did we ever subsist mainly on mud. Mainly because mud has essentially no nutritional value and humanity as a species would have died off from malnutrition a long-ass time ago, if JB’s little fantasy was true.

Also, why would women EVER eat dirt? I mean, dirt is icky, and something a lady never, ever interacts with willingly, ever. /sarcasm

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

So the oceans depend on technology to replenish, do they? That’s some science-y thinking right there.

Apparently the ocean is a confusing thing to right wing reactionaries.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/46289213.jpg

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

Pander to men much, Judgy Janet?

Oh yes, you do.

The “Judgy” thing? That’s for women. And you always find us guilty.

You have deduced who has more power in this world. Congratulations.

mrex
mrex
5 years ago

@WWTH

“Left to their own devices, I think most kids will play with both.”

Toddlers and Preschoolers will play with whatever they have in front of them. Grade school kids are obsessed with only playing with the correctly gendered toys thanks to marketing, retail stores, and the media. IMO it’s *way* worse than it was in the 70s and 80s.

I know a lot of feminists criticized Lego Friends, but I love them because they are how I’m introducing my girls to the more “boyish” lines of Legos. And they still get crap from other girls at school that Legos are a “boy’s” toy.

Rampant misogyny in JB’s post aside, all girls should be taught logic and rhetoric and traditional game theory to sharpen their ability to work through a problem using reason and the empirical method. I wish we focused more on math engineering in primary school.

mrex
mrex
5 years ago

Bleh math & engineering. Why do you hate me phone keyboard?

Miss Andry
5 years ago

What? Boys playing with dolls? I told you, mom, those are action figures!

idledillettante
5 years ago

What does JB mean when she says “the oceans do not replenish”?

The oceans do replenish- this is called the water cycle. And it works independently of male action, or indeed, of any human action. Trying to put the water cycle on men’s “win” column makes about as much sense as blaming bad weather on women.

JB is always a callous idiot, but this post is especially pernicious. I especially like how the whole thing is devised as a shout-out to Yiannopoulos’s gross article basically blaming mass killings on the end of “male only golf”. It’s just so *ethical* how these MRAs reach around to jerk one another off about their gross opinions. JB isn’t even being subtle about it this time, either.

Chayanov
Chayanov
5 years ago

Just because Janet “Serena Joy” Bloomfield doesn’t understand science and history doesn’t mean all women are as ignorant as she is.

Robjec
Robjec
5 years ago

It’s kind of funny, a lot of toy companies are moving away from gendered toys because as their companies become more species in a certain type of toy it has begun to hurt their profits

Legos were always gender neutral.

And for an example of what I mentioned look at the push for game companies to make game store boys and girls. It became gendered because they were owned by the same companies that made dolls so they went hey we can sell one family 2 toys. But now it just hurts their profits.

tcwill00
tcwill00
5 years ago

Gary Gygax was adamant that people who play DnD are smarter than average, and I have heard plenty of stories about playing the game helping with lagging reading and math skills, but the game cannot manufacture geniuses.

Of course, what that really is, is JB stereotyping us nerds. You don’t have to play DnD to be a nerd, or smart.

numerobis
numerobis
5 years ago

To be fair, men *are* responsible for large hardon colliders.

C Baker
C Baker
5 years ago

So, watching the video. Um. Is the first dog… um… named something offensive? Or is my comprehension really bad?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago
gosuamakenatek
gosuamakenatek
5 years ago

Really? The “ultimate expression of masculinity” is the Large Hadron Collider? Maybe you should go ask actual men what they think the ultimate expression of masculinity is, because I guarantee you less than 1% of them would say it’s anything remotely intellectual, the rest would say something about sports or fighting. And they would be right too, because literally the only thing men have over women is slightly more upper body strength, they don’t have more brain power or something, so it makes no sense that intelligence would be specifically masculine in any way.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago

Every “modest proposal” by reactionaries that I see on the internet these days reads like Andrew Ryan. “No gods or kings, only men” indeed.

scribbles
scribbles
5 years ago

Oh wow. Her weird fit of self-loathing is pretty ironic, considering she’s a full-blown idiot and her entire career has been one long whine that academia isn’t worth the effort, essentially.

At this point I can’t feel sorry for her anymore. I just wish she’d shut her idiot mouth. I’m so tired of stupid people who haven’t studied shit acting all chiflada like they know anything.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

this is the ultimate expression of masculinitycomment image

bekabot
5 years ago

…the ultimate expression of femininity is a baby, and the ultimate expression of masculinity is the Large Hadron Collider.

Well, that’s better-put that most of what JB writes; so, points for pithiness, I guess.

However, in the future I think that JB may find that her fellow-manospherians’ tolerance for her is on the wane. The brand of reasoning cited above is traditionally used to drive women away from STEM fields and not toward them, and manospherians generally are suckers for tradition. Besides, so many of them were sent into such intense fits simply by the sight of Anita Sarkeesian playing video games that the prospect of classes full of little girls immersing themselves in particle physics might be rife with consequences untold yet horrid…like two worlds hurtling toward each other or BabyDogs colliding.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

I have one female cousin, and by the time she was born I was in junior high (middle school, 12 years old, 7th grade) but the rest of my cousins are boys, I have one older brother. I’d spent all those years playing with legos, blocks, building forts and playing with star wars action figures besides Princess Leia (though my brother and cousins did let me play with the Princess Leia, mostly because they didn’t want to) not to mention pestering my brother for my turn on the family computer. My parents were both teachers, as was my aunt (mom’s twin) – their view was to give us toys that were *educational* first and foremost, or encouraged creativity and ingenuity. The time my brother and I dug a basement for our backyard fort and hit the water table was fun (for us, parents not so much) – I’m glad that neither parent felt the need to drag me away from that project to force me to play with dolls instead, not that I never played with dolls but it’s nice to have the freedom to choose when.

There are times where Judgybitch really seems to have committed to a life of miserable attitude and constant self-resignation but she really needs to understand that not everybody wants to live like she does nor do they have to. I’m willing to bet that a good number of the MRAs she answers to would be appalled at the ‘egalitarian pleasurefest’ my parents’ marriage is and the model it has been in building my own. Equally horrifying would be the way my dad was the one who insisted on raising me in such a way so that I would never *need* a man to survive and have a roof over my head, freeing me to choose the person I wanted to be with and on my own time table.

mikki
mikki
5 years ago

What I didn’t get about this was that girls are already forced to do math??? We aren’t “naturally good at it” but we all did it in school, without crying that our femininity was being taken away from us. Her whole rant made no sense. Like, feminists want girls to be more interested in STEM, and her response is to force girls to do math until they hate it?? Whaaa boys have to take art and drama, we’re clearly pussifying them. Like sorry, we all had to take classes we hated, we all had classes we aren’t good at. Yes, boys are typically drugged up more often because they have a harder time sitting still and learning, – But what if I told you that it’s not his female classmate’s fault??? – And of course it takes zero intelligence to do things that girls enjoy. Any idiot can excel at drama and become and actor, or a fashion designer, or a dancer. It takes zero skill whatsoever to do that. No, those are things girls are good at so they’re of little value. Never mind the fact that extensive knowledge of mathematics and chemistry does everyday people little to no good. We all could have gone our whole lives without knowing dinosaurs exist. Yea, without people with those skills. we wouldn’t have t.v. or the internet. But what the hell would those be without writers and actors?? My point is, we live in a shitty society that values men’s skills over women’s skills, when all skills are valuable. Maybe she should just shut up about STEM and babies. Because women can do STEM, but men can’t fucking make babies.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

C Baker — that’s exactly what my first thought was, but I think the dog is named Trigger since it’s a fairly(?) common dog name and makes a lot more sense.

On topic, I’m just stuck on my Professor Brian Cox nerd crush, sorry guys but I would probably just swoon if at CERN. Otoh, I can’t picture him deciding science was for boys only considering the amount of “science is fun kids!” stuff he does.

Jenny (@dontgiveah00t)

However, in the future I think that JB may find that her fellow-manospherians’ tolerance for her is on the wane. The brand of reasoning cited above is traditionally used to drive women away from STEM fields and not toward them, and manospherians generally are suckers for tradition. Besides, so many of them were sent into such intense fits simply by the sight of Anita Sarkeesian playing video games that the prospect of classes full of little girls immersing themselves in particle physics might be rife with consequences untold yet horrid…like two worlds hurtling toward each other or BabyDogs colliding.

@bekabot – absolutely. What JB has apparently forgotten to take into account is that so many of the manospherians (especially the ones who believe that AWALT, even the FeMRA ones) dedicate themselves to the idea that men are inherently superior – inherently smarter, inherently stronger, inherently hardier (both physically and emotionally) and inherently more suited to leadership positions, because they are men. Therefore, JB’s proposal that girls be forced towards STEM subjects and interests to make up the deficit will not be taken well by those people. JB is basically saying that women can be equal, can contribute equally, can be just as smart and successful, if they just pull their socks up and are socialized to do so. That’s the opposite of what many of JB’s fellow manospherians want to hear.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Speaking of “boy” and “girl” toys reminds me of a story that this person was working at I think McDonald’s or some fast food place and the person was taking some mother’s order and the person asked the mother if she wanted a car toy or a Barbie (i think those were the toys I could be wrong) and the mother asked for a “boy” toy and the person replied “don’t we all?” That had me laughing so hard.

I wonder too if the manosperians will kick her out and will not listen to her anymore because she is advocating women and girls to be in stem fields.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@PandaPool
Thanks for the women’s history lesson!

Brag plus fact: I knew four out of the six. And the fifth one, Ching Shih, I read about maybe a week ago. I think that it was on WHTM. Yay, me! The only one I truly had never heard of was Fatima al-Fihri. I’ll have to see what Wikipedia says about her.

Years ago, “Ms.” magazine ran a column called “Found Women.” I learned a lot and miss that column very much. Another kick-ass column was “Stories for Free Children,” kids’ stories with a feminist slant.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@samsara

I’m sure Rosalind Franklin, Grace Hopper, Sally Ride, Marie Curie, to name a few, would agree with JudgyBitch.

I forget where I heard this story: When Sally Ride blasted off in the “Challenger,” her mom, who was there at Cape Canaveral with her eyes trained on the skies, exclaimed, “Thank you, Gloria Steinem!”

Marlo Thomas tells the story slightly differently. And she also mentions Sally Ride’s dad, who told her, “You have to reach for the stars.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marlo-thomas/sally-ride-reaching-for-t_b_1699778.html

Judgy Janet and the other MRAs want to bring us down. No matter. People of goodwill support us. We just have to keep our eyes on the prize.

C Baker
C Baker
5 years ago

Bessie Colman was not only the first African-American with a pilot’s license, she was the first American of any race or gender to have an international pilot’s license. (She had to go to France to be trained, because white flight schools wouldn’t train a black person and black pilots wouldn’t train a woman.)

And Trigger, yeah, that makes much more sense.

Orion
5 years ago

so many of the manospherians (especially the ones who believe that AWALT, even the FeMRA ones) dedicate themselves to the idea that men are inherently superior … JB is basically saying that women can be equal…

Sadly, no.

let’s pretend for a moment that feminists are correct: gender differences are the result of socialization. Socialize the genders in a different way, and you will find all differences between men and women magically disappear. Okay, let’s run with that.

Tessa
5 years ago

Orion:

Sadly, no.

let’s pretend for a moment that feminists are correct: gender differences are the result of socialization. Socialize the genders in a different way, and you will find all differences between men and women magically disappear. Okay, let’s run with that.

Ah, I knew this had to be an attempt at satire based on some poor understanding of what feminists say.

Bina
5 years ago

I played with Legos, Tonka trucks, Tinkertoys, and Barbies, often all at once. Judgy Numpty can trip over a roomful of them all in the dark, if she’s feeling especially logicsl.

Hipsterminator
5 years ago

I thought I knew everything worth knowing about Ayn Rand before I read these articles. It’s like the whole Manosphere philosophy summed up. What’s even worse is reading the butthurt in the comments from Ayn Rand Society members complaining that the author didn’t “interpret” it properly. Oh, and she was a WOMAN!!!

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/top-10-lessons-strange-mirror-universe-ayn-rands-atlas-shrugged?paging=off%22

http://www.alternet.org/culture/10-things-i-discovered-about-ayn-rands-addled-brain-after-reading-atlas-shrugged

Now, here’s some kittens in case you survived reading that.

http://dreamatico.com/data_images/kitten/kitten-2.jpg

http://dreamatico.com/data_images/kitten/kitten-1.jpg

http://dreamatico.com/data_images/kitten/kitten-6.jpg

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