Here’s my segment from The Majority Report yesterday

Are The Sexes Evenly Matched In Terms Of “Dating Power”?
http://www.justfourguys.com/are-the-sexes-evenly-matched-in-terms-of-dating-power/

The days of wine & roses are over: women must change their attitudes to dating
http://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/marriage/the-days-of-wine-roses-are-over-women-must-change-their-attitudes-to-dating/

Re: “Big Questions” Involving Feminism (And It’s Excesses):

“Handbags 4 Peace” Meets “The Defenders Of Maidan”: Compare & Contrast
http://www.justfourguys.com/hanbags-4-peace-meets-the-defenders-of-maidan-compare-contrast/

I only date tall men. You’re a pig if you don’t like fat women. #FeministLogic
http://judgybitch.com/2015/06/04/i-only-date-tall-men-youre-a-pig-if-you-dont-like-fat-women-feministlogic/

#BringBackOurGirls: How Boko Haram Puts The American Sistahood’s First World Problems Into Proper Perspective
http://www.justfourguys.com/bringbackourgirls-how-boko-haram-puts-the-american-sistahoods-first-world-problems-into-proper-perspective/

The Ms. Ann Syndrome
http://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/the-ms-ann-syndrome/

James Robertson proves that “Black Male Privilege” is bunk and Black political leadership is a failure
http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/james-robertson-proves-that-black-male-privilege-is-bunk-and-black-political-leadership-is-a-failure/

Note To Christelyn Karazin: If “Crummy Mummy” Don’t Apply, Let It Fly
http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/families/note-to-christelyn-karazin-if-crummy-mummy-dont-apply-let-it-fly/

By no means is the list above meant to be definitive or comprehensive, but does go to make the point that a much richer conversation can be had on these issues than merely contributing to the noise that is Mr. Futrelle’s stock and trade. Ahem.

Further links available upon request.

“Well, good luck with that, because had you paid a little more attention, you’d know that Mr. Binder’s off to do other things.”

Yes, you’re correct, he did mention that at the beginning of the interview – or rather I should say, Mr. Futrelle mentioned it.

“I don’t recall David saying that (Mammotheers, please correct me if I’m wrong), but the thing about Roosh is that his views are heavily rooted in racism. Every other article Roosh writes is about how “evil brown people” are out to destroy Western civilization, even though many of his sexist views are drawn from more extremist Eastern religions, and he even claimed that he’s Islamic (but it was only a really shitty “gotcha” in order to make a very sorry dodge of criticism leveled at him by Canadian feminists).”

Perhaps, but the point is made – feminists, particularly those of the Canadian variety, have quite a bit to answer for in terms of their own extremism. Here in the States less than 20% of women self-identify as feminists. The brand has been taking a beating of late. And that’s just for starters.

As for what Mr. Futrelle and/or his audience have or haven’t said, my question is important because it informs the very existence of the Manosphere itself. While Mr. Futrelle and his audience would like to have everyone believe that the denizens of the Manosphere are just dejected losers, he and his audience refuse to consider the possibility that feminism, like all things in life, has brought with it its share of downsides and tradeoffs, to say nothing of excesses. He and they refuse to consider the idea that women, being human, may be prone to gaming the system so to speak (false rape accusations, anyone? Brian Banks, anyone?).

As for Roosh himself, as I said, I conducted what has been known to be, to date, the biggest interview on/with him:

Bang: The Definitive Interview With RooshV

Part One: http://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/game/bang-the-definitive-interview-with-rooshv-part-one/

Interview With Joe Of “Support For The Short”: Introduction

So, from my vantage point and by all available evidence, Roosh may indeed be a douchebag, but he’s far from alone; quite a few ladies are douches, too.

“Granted, feminism isn’t perfect. Nothing in this world truly is, and let’s face it, it’s run by completely fallible people. Feminism has had issues in the past with racism, transphobia, sex worker discrimination, fatphobia, ect.”

And by all accounts, it still has not addressed it’s very real racism issues. This is per what Black feminists, in our time right now, have said by their own pens and keyboards – not by me.

“But, that isn’t to say that there aren’t feminists who are working on that, or that we don’t recognize that it’s a problem, because it is. In fact, that’s where we get SWERFs (Sex-Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminists), TERFs (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists), and White Feminists (A feminist who only seems to care about cishet, white, middle-class women’s issues, not necessarily a feminist who is white) from.”

Yes, I’m familiar with all of those terms/acronyms. Still, the point is made: Black feminists feel A LOT more alienated by their (White) “sisters”, than I ever have felt alienated by my (White) “brothers” in the Manosphere. Seems to me that if anyone needs to work on their privilege and racism, it’s the White feminists – not the Manosphere. That, is my personal experience.

“Now, does that mean we should give up feminism altogether? Fuck no. It’s a process, and we’re constantly learning and growing.”

Nor has anyone, certainly not I, is asking for such a thing. Only for balance, honesty, fairness and justice.

And here:

“Consent For Me, But Not For Thee” and other Black feminist hypocrisies
http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/consent-for-me-but-not-for-thee-and-other-black-feminist-hypocrisies/

“As for the trade-offs, I’d like to think that having the ability to get a college education, getting the right to vote, own property, and get into relationships and marry on my own terms are pretty damn nice.”

I don’t disagree; but, as I pointed out in my articles “Wine & Roses” “Why I Became A Black MRA” and so forth, there are indeed very real downsides and tradeoffs that have come with the very real and needed advances for women – and the fact that I have to prompt people, like you, to even admit it, again, speaks to the how and why of the Manosphere’s very existence in the first place.

“Oh, and feminists are also working to end Rape Culture, fatphobia, sex stigma, ect, so we’ve still got a full plate and lots of work to do.”

I’m sure. Perhaps they could squeeze in a few of the issues I’ve addressed in the links above (read: my article on Tess Holliday, and the very skewed attractiveness standards so many women have themselves as per the media, etc.)? After all, feminists do care about men, right?

“Then why the fuck is the Manosphere more concerned with harassing women and feminists and asking for the right to beat, rape, and make women kowtow to them and their Almighty Boners instead of, oh, I don’t know, focusing on men’s issues like toxic masculinity, or companies making money off the back of men’s insecurities about their masculinity?”

Please see my fairly extensive list of links as per your request above? I think I do a fairly decent job addressing a wide array of issues important to men in our time.

“Not once, in my years of being a feminist, have I seen a MRA (or any other member of the manosphere, for that matter) stand up for men, unless it was to bludgeon a feminist with bullshit, or derail a conversation said feminist was having about women’s issues, in a sorry attempt to silence them.”

Again, please see list of links above. My name is Mumia Obsidian Ali, and I’m a (Black, working class) mens’ rights guy. Glad to meet you! 🙂

“Last I checked, while feminism does help men, it’s not really our purpose to focus on men’s problems.”

Then stop saying that you’re concerned about men, because this is the common refrain feminists trot out when me and mine step to them. I for one am completely, totally cool with feminists only being concerned with what is good and in the best interests of women, so long as they don’t whine and moan when me and mine do the same for the fellas. Fair enough?

“The Manosphere is no real “examination” of feminism. If anything, it’s a group of men dedicated to harassing women under the guise of “critique”.”

Again, please see my list of links above. I think, taken together as a collection or body or work, serves as a critique of many feminist issues in our time today.

“But, that’s okay, because we feminists are critical of ourselves, and call each other out for bullshit all the time.”

Evidently not, per the sayings, tweets and writings of Black feminists…

“It’s not a crime for a man to want to know how to attract someone he’s interested in. Nor is it a crime for him to go to someone for advice.”

Good! I’m glad we agree. See that? A feminist and a mens’ rights guy can actually agree on something. Now that’s progess!

Never Apologize For Being A Man

#ObsidianRadio

“There’s nothing wrong with casual sex mind you, but the way that people who spout “game” put it bothers me immensely because they talk about women not as people, but as complex sex vending machines, mindless animals, or, at best, “sluts and whores”.”

Understood; but I could say the exact same thing of so many women, who reduce men down to their height, earnings/potential, and credentials (to say nothing of looks). So again, while we don’t disagree that there are certainly boorish men out there, and that the pickup/seduction community certainly has its fair share of them, men in general or even pickup artists in particular are by no means unique along these lines. The only major difference, is that feminists seem intensely keen on calling the fellas out, while remaining curiously silent when it comes to the ladies. What is up with that? Especially since so many of them claim to care about men, too? Please explain?

“The thing is, the alternative has always been available, men just have been lead to believe (by other men who then offer to teach them “game” as an alternative, usually at the cost of a seminar or book! Look, men making money off of men’s insecurities because men have been taught by society that the only way they have worth is if they fuck as many women as possible!) that it isn’t available or doesn’t work because that one woman they hit on once didn’t return their affections and didn’t immediately drop and give him a blowjob.”

With all due respect, I cannot support your thesis, and I say this as a lifelong Black man. Moreover, I was able to procure game and pickup materials for a mere fraction of the cost that it would have set me back for a stack of conventional university studies textbooks (many such materials are available online for free, by the way; ask me how I know!).

Secondarily: I would like to know of this alternative you mention? The pickup industry has really put a spotlight on the fact that men have not had a service business to cater to their relationship and sexual mating needs, certainly nothing coming anywhere near close to what women have enjoyed for decades, if not longer.

“The alternative is: Treat women like they’re people you’d like to get in bed with, with their permission, instead of Sexy Time vending machines.

Boom. That easy.”

No. It is not. The “friend zone” is very real; women can and will say you’re being “too nice” (often for doing the very things so many of them claim to want, by the way); and other factors. Mating is a lot more complex and to be frank, unsettling, for far too many of us to openly admit, because it goes against many of the very societual conditioning that feminists often accuse for other problems.

And here:

The Long Night