I talked to The Majority Report’s Matt Binder about Men’s Rightsers, PUAs, MGTOWs, and the rest, as well as about some of the attempts of white supremacists to recruit in the manosphere (and vice versa). Enjoy!
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We Hunted The MammothBucking the Backlash
Obsidian wants bragging rights, along the lines of, “I went into their house and took a dump on their dining room table, and after that they wouldn’t speak to me. The power of my poo has silenced them! Victory to me!”
but it’s not like the unchanging monolithic block of long lasting obsidian changes itself. God man, it’s a meta-stable mineral! It doesn’t last forever, you’re allowed to change. Just please don’t make it take 145 million years.
At least stop twisting history to make your just-so story fit into the cracks of your lack of knowledge. People have always tried to seduce other people. Pickup artistry is nothing new. To my knowledge there’s a book from 1799 called the something something academy of compliments. In the 15th century people were lured to the New World by wild leaflets promising the harlotry indigenious women would mate with men right there in the fields (which is all kinds of icky, but, hey, history is terrible). It’s not some exciting new phenomenon. Are you familiar with Ovid’s Ars Amatoria? 2AD. 2. A. D.
2014 years ago! (ad starts at 1, not 0)
2014 years. My latin is rusty, but let me give it a go. Ut ameris, amabilis esto.
The pick up industry is just an industry of telling people that women are terrible and they need tricks to break through odd concepts like, indeed, the friendzone. It’s not even new. God, I remember reading one old literature reviewbook exploring exciting new findings in the art of ancient egyptian love spells (You wrote them on usable material, then buried them near the person you were armerously inclined to. Then they’d be driven mad with love and lust for thee, god’s promise, only 3 easy payments of 1 silver deben to be deposited via messenger pidgon)
It doesn’t change and it’s nothing new and yet here we are going on about it because, to be fair, it’s sometimes pretty fun to laugh at.
On the “too nice” thing, I don’t think it literally means “too nice.” It’s code. I think it means something more along the lines of “I’m not interested in this man, he doesn’t get the hint and keeps bestowing unwanted attention and affection on me but as a woman, I’m socialized to be nice and accommodating, particularly to men and I don’t know how to articulate that this is making me uncomfortable.”
If you ask women with male partners what they like or love about their partners, nice, treats me well, generous, kind etc. are frequently on the list of traits she appreciates. Nice isn’t actually a turn off for most women. It’s just that because get gaslit so often, we often don’t trust our own feelings and saying that a man who’s thought of by most people as being “nice” is making us uncomfortable by wooing us against our will is a difficult thing for a lot of women.
@Policy of Madness
Ha, ha. Yeah, that too. PUAs possess powerful poo.
Since Obsidian has since been banned, I was thinking about not bothering with a response, but I figure he’s still lurking, so should I?
I mean, that’s a huge fucking pile of shit to go through.
Agreed, and thanks to David for finally banning the tedious troll.
So, I think I realized why Obsidian thought I was “nicer” than the rest of you, and wanted to talk to me.
It’s finally happened. A troll assumed I was a man. I am truly a regular now (maybe?).
@PI
I do love reading your take downs, but I’m going to go with no on this one. It’s not worth the effort, especially since the majority of his links go back to AVfM. He can’t even provide unbiased sources. I mean, come on, his source for the existence of “heightism” links to JB’s blog.
@ Paradoxy
I’ll lay money that he’s now drafting something about “white feminists” silencing a black guy, for his podcast.
Ok, that happened.
@Paradoxical Intention
I just like to point out that despite his dozens of posts, Obsidian never actually discusses what David said during the interview. Not even a little.
Obsidian has shown with that meaningless flurry of spam that he isn’t remotely interested in what any of use have to say, so I’d ignore whatever the hell he just posted.
He certainly kept himself busy from 11:39 AM to 12:23 PM, though I’m guessing a lot of that was from a preexisting copy pasta link dump.
What the fuck even happened here.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/frtrll.gif
ET TU, BLOCKQUOTE MAMMOTH?
And I was doing so well, too. ; n ;
Misgendered by a troll and then the mammoth got you? I don’t think there’s a welcome package for it, but welcome to being a regular!
I’ve never been misgendered by a troll here. But I have on Gawker even though my avatar there is a Sansa misandry meme. Does that count?
@Paradoxical Intention
The Mammoth is not pleased. We must sacrifice more trolls!
Seriously now, I have another take on why he thought you were a man.
He seemed interested enough in talking to any of us here, but you were the one who adressed his arguments in full. If there was only one person who decided not to be “childish”, he might assume this person would have to be a man.
Or maybe he just thinks “man” is the default, which, I think, would undermine the argument that men’s issues are ignored by society at large.
I don’t see why not! I was mostly snarking at NWO’s reactions to my gender and how his responses changed based on what he thought was in my pants, he freaks out over trans people existing, so my staunch refusal to pick a binary option really aggravated him.