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4channers now threatening to shoot up every school they can think of, as well as Whoville and the moon

The mascot of the "beta uprising."
The mascot of the “beta uprising.”

Universities in the Philadelphia area were on high alert today after a threat directed at them was posted on 4chan’s /r9k/ board. The anonymous threat (everything is anonymous on 4chan) deliberately called to mind the threat/warning posted on the same message board last week, the day before a gunman shot and killed eight students and one professor at Umpqua Community College in Oregon.

“The first of our kind has struck fear into the hearts of America,” the writer of the new threat declared.

His cries have been heard, even by the president. This is only the beginning. On October 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM CT, a fellow robot will take up arms against a university near Philadelphia. His cries will be heard, his victims will cower in fear, and the strength of the Union will decay a little more. …

Martyr yourself for the cause or support those who have the courage to do so. We have the chance to make the world a better place for betas everywhere. 

The deadline passed without incident — as did the deadline for a similar threat directed at schools in Edinburgh. Scotland, posted shortly after the Oregon shootings — but not without shaking a lot of people up.

Now the most malevolent trolls on the /r9k/ board, knowing that they have the attention of the world, are rhapsodizing about the coming “beta rebellion,” gleefully mocking the victims of the Oregon shootings, and posting threats aimed at an assortment of schools around the world, from Texas to the Netherlands.

And so, alongside more traditional /r9k/ topics as “Post your waifu” and “DAILY REMINDER THAT ALL FEMALES ARE DECEIVING SUBHUMAN WHORES,” the board today is filled with simultaneously ridiculous and chilling messages like these:

 Anonymous 10/05/15(Mon)15:01:08 No.22995724▶>>22995744 >>22995763 >>22995785 >>22995913 >>22995995 Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to school tomorrow if you're near Austin. happening thread will be posted later so long, space robots >> Anonymous 10/05/15(Mon)15:01:43 No.22995744▶ >>22995724 (OP) Go to A&M instead please >> Anonymous 10/05/15(Mon)15:02:30 No.22995763▶ >>22995724 (OP) Good luck, brobot.

 

Anonymous 10/05/15(Mon)12:16:28 No.22989609▶>>22989676 >>22989718 >>22989734 >>22989758 >>22989777 >>22989782 Gonna fucking do it. Fuck society, fuck interaction that is literally 100% social constructs, fuck people, fuck the government. Tomorrow at 10:05 i will open fire at the university of Leiden. Not gonna tell you which faculty, thats up to you to guess. Shit's gonna go down, then i'm gonna go down. Going for the highscore. Only counts if suicide you cancerous fucks, get it right. >> Anonymous 10/05/15(Mon)12:17:07 No.22989632▶ Quit being a fag >> Anonymous 10/05/15(Mon)12:18:33 No.22989676▶>>22989707 >>22989609 (OP) oh shutup, you're gonna be one of those idiots who gets like 2 kills but injures 30 people.

 

in class right now beta uprising Anonymous 10/05/15(Mon)15:11:10 No.22996081▶>>22996155 Im tired of all these people bullying betas like me tomorrow im gonna do something about it. I f you live on nor-cal don't go to school tomorrow! This is for the glory of betas everywhere! >> Anonymous 10/05/15(Mon)15:13:09 No.22996155▶ >>22996081 (OP) This is just routine now. Move along robots.

4chan being what it is, other anons are posting ironic “threats” aimed at, among other places, the moon, Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941, and Whoville — the latter a reference to a news reporter who mistook the board’s meme mascot, a frog called Pepe, for the Grinch.

In the wake of a mass shooting that left ten people dead, this is all a good deal less than hilarious. Yes, yes, 4chan apologists, I know that the anons writing the “real threats” are most likely shitposters, like the anons joking about shooting up the moon, in that they most likely have no intention of carrying out their threats.

But at the same time it’s clear they do intend to terrorize real people with their probably fake threats. As they know well, we have to take them seriously, given that a similar threat on the same message board only a few days ago was followed by an actual, real-world massacre.

This isn’t shitposting so much as it is terrorism, a form of terrorism enabled and in some ways encouraged by 4chan’s anonymous nature.

It’s also clear that the “beta uprising” the /r9k/ regulars are joking about — and designing flags for — isn’t altogether a joke to them either.

Anonymous  10/05/15(Mon)15:01:10 No.22995726▶ The Beta Uprising needs to be political, not violent. You NEETcucks have a captive audience, maybe take this seriously and develop an actual platform. You have problems that need to be dealt with, the bleeding heart liberals don't care because you're mostly white men. But now they're scared, maybe they'll listen to you for once. Or you can continue to be a literal terror organization and inevitably make things worse for all of us Robots. Do you honestly think normalfags will be on the losing end of this? >>  Anonymous  10/05/15(Mon)15:02:42 No.22995769▶ Literally the only thing that makes change in the world is violence, and lots of it. All throughout history, change, both positive and negative, has been brought about by violence.

Aside from the picture of Hitler, there’s not much deliberate irony in this discussion. These are two people discussing the future of a would-be political movement, in the wake of an act of terrorism that may be tied to the message board they are posting on. One thinks the terror caused by the shootings in Oregon will lead people to take their “issues” seriously; the second sees to think that continued violence is the only answer.

I’m not seeing a joke here.

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Zemyla (@Zemyla)
5 years ago

The worst part about this is… well, honestly everything. But the worst worst part is that any shooting threats that are real will get lost in the noise of all these edgelords.

ronanwills
5 years ago

I don’t see how anyone can be on 4chan for any length of time. Just reading quotes from that place makes me feel tired and mildly ill.

(Also I swear to god I am going to throw my laptop into traffic if I see the “word” cuck one more time)

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

So, when is the SPLC going to decide that misogynistic hate groups are worthy of their time?

How many threats do there need to be, how many people have to die, before they finally cross the magic boundary from “Harmless website” to “Terrorist organisation”?

Or do they have to threaten people who aren’t women first?

(Yeah, I know that the SPLC can’t actually do anything about them, but it’d be nice to have that recognition of “Women’s lives are worth protecting too.”)

Jenny (@dontgiveah00t)

I don’t get it. I was bullied at school, my home life was spent walking on eggshells some days, and I had undiagnosed disabilities to deal with on top of all that. Maybe because I’m older and more distanced from it now, but I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine walking into my school with a gun and shooting people who had nothing to do with the bullying or other reasons I was hurting. Some people really do seem to enjoy the idea of “just you wait! You’ll be sorry!” so much that they don’t actually care if the person who cops the brunt of it had anything to do with it or not.

Miss Andry
5 years ago

4chan is beyond fucked up, as usual. It’s a den of neo-Nazis, misogynists, and other trash. It truly is the cesspool of the Internet. This is a prime example of why they ought to be on a watch list of some sort.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago
Miss Andry
5 years ago

On a lighter note, Attila Vinczer and Paul Elam broke up. It’s as hilarious as you’d expect.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Is there anyway for the FBI to track 4chan users if they get a warrant? I know the posts are all anonymous but it’s not like the dark web in that it’s pretty much impossible to get an IP address, is it?

It’s time for a few of these trolls posting death threats for the lulz to go to prison for making terror threats. I don’t care what their intent is, they both rile up the people who may actually carry out a mass shooting and muddy the waters by making it more difficult to determine whether or not to investigate a threat and treat it as credible. If nothing else, they should have to pay restitution for the increase security costs that are incurred when these posts go up.

It’s really time for us to stop having the attitude that the internet isn’t real life and nothing on it should be taken seriously. If you’re caught phoning in a bomb threat you’ll go to jail. Internet threats should not be treated differently.

Fang
Fang
5 years ago

@Miss Andry

I imagine after this they are – if they weren’t previously. This is getting more buzz in the media.

What’s bizarre to me is that these guys don’t seem to realize how they look. People aren’t going to decide, “hey, let’s give these guys whatever they want” or “let’s shake in terror” – they’re gonna want them smashed and smashed hard. They look awful to the entire world, and they’re not helping themselves.

Familiar behavior, isn’t it?

Sadly, this is one of those events I think will be used to justify more control of the internet.

RoscoeTCat
5 years ago

@Jenny: You took the words right out of my mouth.

Do these “beta uprisers” think they’re the only people in the history of civilization, to suffer frustration and rejection?

They seem to be as self-centered as they accuse women of being.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@Alan

A partial list posted three and a half years ago – long before #GamerGate and the rash of MRA-linked killing sprees – with nothing but a lot of wriggling about “But websites can’t be hate groups!” and the implication that “Tracking misogyny is too haaard!” since then… It was great to see at the time, but they went nowhere with it, and it doesn’t count anymore.

*angry GLaDOS noises*

CriticalDragon1177
CriticalDragon1177
5 years ago

This is so “lovely.” Hopefully if any of these fools actually try something like this, they’ll end up accidentally killing or wounding themselves before they’re able to carry out their plans and murder innocent people

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

What should we do? Them being on the SPLC hate watch isn’t enough we need the authorities in this. These terrorists need to go to jail. I don’t want anyone else to die.

AltoFronto
AltoFronto
5 years ago

I’d like to feel reassured that there won’t be any UK shootings, because it’s so much harder to acquire weapons here, and there isn’t quite the same death-cult MRA culture… or at least that’s what I thought until a couple of months ago, when this fucker was arrested.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/newcastle-teenager-charged-with-possessing-five-pipe-bombs-and-a-gun-9843034.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33718094

As far as we know, he wasn’t a Manospherian, but he was into Breivik, and other mass shooters, as well as describing his revenge fantasy as a form of “civil disobedience”. Sounds like the guys in the above post.

These shitlords are domestic terrorists and should be treated as such. 4chan should have been shut down years ago, but it makes me wonder what these… kids? (how old are these shits anyway?) are like in the real world, and what kind of messed up people they are, and how far away they live from me and my loved ones.

Anon
Anon
5 years ago

Anon Here If you cant see the Irony you are right gtfo of /r9k/ and /b/ but why kill a site for a few bad apples. Do you really think anyone serious would post on 4chan now when a shooting just happened? Some of them might be retarded no one are that stupid.

History Nerd
5 years ago

The sites don’t meet the SPLC’s definition of a “hate group” because they don’t do stuff like organizing physical meetings in a specific geographical location.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
5 years ago

These people are doing a much better job of destroying themselves than any of us ever could. Though I wonder how awful it would be for them if their board was erased/gun runs are banable offenses. Would they start believing their own site is against them? Would they be so inclined to cannibalize their own site?

The recent change of head from Moot to Nishimura, owner of 2chan may cause some things to change.

Now onto the real subject of deaths, should this continue to persist in a pattern, I would be interested to see if the media is willing to make out these social outcasts as isolated instances or consider them a homegrown terrorist group? As most of these people are hyper conservative in nature and the radicalization of the right I have my doubts on the subject. Mainly it would be to use the site as the sole source of the problem and avoid any other reasons to how the potential shooters would be able to enact their terrorism.

Though best case scenario the new admin sends ip all the time, law and culture are cultivated that shun such actions, guns being harder to obtain for the crazies and the /r9k/ either dissolves under threat of knowing that their actions now have consequences or they further radicalize to the point where no one can claim they are not a terrorist group.

Then again Bundy Ranch.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

When the media narrative was that the killings were motivated by misogyny, nobody called it a possible hate crime. When the narrative switched to the killings being motivated by hatred of Christians, then they started talking possible hate crime.

Why, when violence against women and now even violence that targets all genders but is motivated by misogyny is so commonplace is it not deemed a hate crime? You never, ever these crimes spoken of that way. I don’t want to play oppression Olympic, but it really seems like it’s treated as less important when it’s women.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ altofronto

It’s pretty easy to get guns here in the UK.

The difference between here and the US is that there aren’t that many guns already lying around, so attacks would require a bit of planning and resolve rather than just being spontaneous with what’s already available.

The police and GCHQ also have greater powers and resources to monitor online activity. In fact GCHQ has so much over capacity that most of its work is doing stuff for the other 5 eyes nations on an outsourced basis. It’s our Humint side that needs more funding.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

WWTH — I’m sure with all their supercomputers NSA could backtrace through ToR, problem is that that just isn’t worth the resources to figure out who every asshole is, and in theory NSA is still only allowed to wiretap US citizens if they’re terrorism suspects. But that’s quickly sliding into the land of who the fuck knows what rights they’re violating this week, on a purely practical level, if they’re using ToR it’s whole point is to make bracktracing difficult, great for getting around the Great Wall of China f’ex, not great for tracking assholes who may or may not pose a real threat. So yeah, I can’t see it happening without the threat being carried out. To use your (valid) comparison, if nothing blows up, no one is gonna track down security cameras near the pay phone the bomb threat came from, if something does blow up, every shop anywhere near that pay phone is gonna have cops all over their cameras and receipts.

Jenny — if it helps explain it any, ditto the bullying and eggshells and such… except I did think about it and do have access to guns. But even as a suicidal teen I couldn’t get past the fact that it wouldn’t make things any better, and making my bullies suffer wasn’t worth the cost. Which is why I think being an entitled little shit is a major factor, those of us who grasp that even entitled little shits are still people are less inclined to decide they have to suffer with us — yeah, they should treat us with basic human dignity, but killing them won’t teach them anything, and that’s assuming every single person you kill is a bully, a risk people with basic empathy won’t take. But then you get the people who think everyone has to be nice to them (if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything isn’t an option by them), or date/fuck them, or whatever thing that actually, no, you aren’t entitled to by the mere fact you’re a sentient being, and then anyone is a target.

FTR, that’s anecdotes and personal experience, so I’m totally willing to be proven wrong, suspected wrong, have anecdotes that contradict mine, etc. In short, I can explain ToR, but explaining the why behind mass shootings is guess work not science.

Aura
Aura
5 years ago

4chan has a ban system, which means they have a method of blocking IP’s, which means they track IP’s. If the US government subpoenaed their records because of these terrorist threats these guys would learn very quickly that they aren’t actually anonymous.

History Nerd
5 years ago

You can use Tor to access 4chan, so that would mask your IP address even though 4chan isn’t a Tor service.

Fang
Fang
5 years ago

@OoglyBoggles

I actually think this has a chance to make national consciousness as A) It’s highly objectionable, B) It’s sensationalist, C) It’s an outgroup (“Internet losers”) easily tageted.

Sadly, I think C will play a big role in it.

History Nerd
5 years ago

I’d guess that the NSA has some way to break Tor, but its use would be limited specifically to international terrorism and spying. So it couldn’t be used to prosecute domestic terrorists who are US citizens or legal residents.

AltoFronto
AltoFronto
5 years ago

@WWTH – Is it also because women are the biggest “minority” group? Like, by sheer numbers, people refuse to believe that it’s possible to hold a grudge against 51% of the population, so it somehow doesn’t count as a hate crime when women are explicitly the intended victims?

@Alan – It’s nowhere near as easy to get guns in the UK as it is in the US, though. As I’m sure you well know.
You can apply for hunting or gamekeeping license, but most of the guns you can get legitimately in the UK are single-shot rifles and the like – requiring a lot of re-loading and allowing time for anyone within range to run for cover.
If you wanted to obtain anything as deadly as a semi-automatic, you’d have to look on the Dark Web, and you’d have trouble getting it transported without arousing suspicion.
. In the US, you can buy an assault rifle in Walmart. We’re still statistically a lot safer in the UK. At least, mass shootings are not a daily occurrence here.

I’d like to know whether GCHQ has picked up on 4chan yet. At least one of those above threats was on UK soil, so I’d damn well hope they’d be breaking some fucker’s door down with an arrest warrant soon.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Anon
“Anon Here If you cant see the Irony you are right gtfo of /r9k/ and /b/ but why kill a site for a few bad apples. Do you really think anyone serious would post on 4chan now when a shooting just happened? Some of them might be retarded no one are that stupid.”

Those “few bad apples” are advocating murder and it’s not just a few there are tons of members who are like this. We are spreading the word about these terriorists and not just this site but anywhere else that are bigots and terriorists. Btw read the comment policy no ableist slurs like r*tard. Now you gtfo a-hole.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
5 years ago

@Fang

Man do I dislike using a symbol to quote others but whatever. In that case I would be more likely to believe you. I’d also be grateful if the U.S. manages to finally get the internet and make proper legislation on properly dealing with these homegrown terrorists.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

4chan can ban ToR exit nodes all day, and the assholes getting banned can just do ToR stuff use a different one. It’s not particularly difficult to access the ‘net over an IP that isn’t the one your ISP assigns you — my laptop registers as Singapore currently cuz my UK proxy kept spitting and I like being able to watch BBC. ToR’s slow for streaming video, I don’t need anonymity, and what country your IP registers as can be iffy, so I use a proxy, but ToR is arguably easier since you can straight up download a browser (Videla, spelt however you spell the onion, f’ex) and you’ll be up and running in 5 min, whereas proxy settings hide in the depths of your, uh, settings… that metaphor failed.

Moocow
Moocow
5 years ago

Next time some asshat tries to tell me that 4chan is being ironic, I’m taking all these links and asking “is THIS supposed to be ironic?” to each one. Thank you David for linking to SEVERAL of their threads just to

Also, mocking a woman who was shot 10 times and saying that she ‘had what’s coming’ because she committed the crime of being attractive and in a relationship? Yeah, I’m gonna be sick

At the very least the ‘daily reminder that women are whores’ thread provides fascinating insight into their minds. For those unwilling to venture, it’s a bunch of “before/after” make-up pictures that clearly prove that feeeeeeemales are evil liars who wear make-up and also ugly without make-up. Highlights include:

-A bunch of commenters declare that the women in the pictures are attractive before the make-up, they are IMMEDIATELY called white knights, cucks, redditors, etc…

-Several commentators declare, with moral superiority, that those women are unattractive both before and after (they think this makes them look cool). They then declare how ‘normies’ have invaded their board because no real ‘robot’ would consider these women attractive.

-Some idiot tries to claim that women use make-up to ‘trick’ men into a relationship to them (getting a bit of deja vu on that one). One poster questions this assertion and how stupid it is. Another poster explains to him that ‘Yes. AFTER they fucked. AFTER she was given a chance.’

-Posters start arguing over use of memes, over overuse of memes, use of “go back to reddit” (which btw is considered an insult in their culture). Then, some Poe declares that “women are a meme”.

-Towards the bottom, one poster wants to declare that the pre-makeup women are ‘pretty cute’. Of course, he’s smart enough to see how well that went over so he frames his opinion in the only way a bigot knows how: “I’m not a [insert homophobic slur] but….”

ljy2008
5 years ago

Well, the first step is to ensure none of these cretins can actually get their hands on guns…or semi automatic/automatic weapons.

Moocow
Moocow
5 years ago

Oops, should read “Thank you David for linking to SEVERAL of their threads just to make it abundantly clear how awful they are.”

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Anon Here If you cant see the Irony you are right gtfo of /r9k/ and /b/ but why kill a site for a few bad apples. Do you really think anyone serious would post on 4chan now when a shooting just happened? Some of them might be (slur redacted) no one are that stupid.

A few bad apples? 4chan is well known for being filled to the brim with trolls, misogynists, Nazis, homophobes and every other type of asshole that walks the earth. You can’t call it a few bad apples if it’s the entire orchard that is putrid and rotten.

Who cares if it’s “irony?” There only needs to be one person who takes it seriously and carries out a threat and you have blood on your hand. Even if the threats are never carried out, it still traumatizes people. It’s not cute. It’s not funny. It’s not even irony. Grow the fuck up. Learn to write properly while you’re at it.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ altofronto

It’s certainly a lot easier to get guns in the US, both legally and illegally but it’s pretty easy to get illegal guns in the UK too, as the chap recently sentenced demonstrated.

You don’t even need to use the net, there are lots of places you can pick them up. You don’t even have to buy them outright, you can even rent them. It was a pool weapon that Mark Dungan was transporting when he was stopped.

interesting Interestingly under English law the 4chan posts would count as inciting terrorism but there’s a rather strange procedure whereby the police have to give notice and allow the poster an opportunity to withdraw the post before someone can be prosecuted.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

4chan can ban ToR exit nodes all day, and the assholes getting banned can just do ToR stuff use a different one.

You can make this argument against any law or regulation. If it becomes more difficult and more risky to post threats on the internet, fewer people will do it. Dedicated trolls will find a way, but bored, immature brats may quit.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want Big Brother invasively monitoring the internet. That’s why I’d like for there to be some mild common sense steps to curb the worst of internet troll culture. I fear that if nothing is done there will eventually be a huge backlash that will cause governments to go too far.

cupisnique
cupisnique
5 years ago

This makes me really glad this shit wasn’t around when my brother was growing up, he already has enough issues with toxic masculinity. Thank god they weren’t exasperated by shit like 4chan which I’m sure if he read in his teens would have only made it worse.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Why, when violence against women and now even violence that targets all genders but is motivated by misogyny is so commonplace is it not deemed a hate crime? You never, ever these crimes spoken of that way. I don’t want to play oppression Olympic, but it really seems like it’s treated as less important when it’s women.

Yeah, this is what I’m growling about, you said it better than I did. I think I’m just taking it out on the SPLC because, as something that only exists to track hate crimes, they should bloody well know better.

Miss Andry
5 years ago

Cool! Thanks, Dave! 🙂

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
5 years ago

They security agencies almost certainly already scoop up tor data. Actually, it’s not secure if you have wide enough data collection, if you watch the in ports and the out ports, you can use stuff like the data packet size and other details to link up the outgoing traffic with an incoming IP address.

alexirizarry89
alexirizarry89
5 years ago

This is one of the reasons I left 4chan, When I left, the site pretty became a cesspool anyway, now with the GG fiasco and this..,

I think it is time to start calling them for what they really are: Terrorists, they may not have a political motive but they are doing it on the basis of hate, striking fear in the people.

This has got to stop, and unfortunately the media is going to blame solely on mental illness, guns, etc. instead of the obvious motive: Misogyny and toxic masculinity. It’s this deep and toxic culture that is causing these deaths. when are MRA’s and PUA’s are going to see that masculinity is screwing them over and not feminism.

Finally when these guys complain that women won’t date them, maybe they should look at their damn selves and see why no one will date them.

contrapangloss
5 years ago

Dear Anon,

You’re wrong: now would be the perfect time for a bastard to post a real threat on 4chan, just because so many people like you would automatically assume it’s a false threat since so many other 4channers are being ‘helpful’ in muddying the already stinking cesspool with additional fake threats.

No one can really tell the difference between the fake ones and the real ones, and that’s a problem.

4chan’s users need to knock it off. Now.

They’re just like the jerks who yell fire in a crowded theater, and their speech should be just as illegal.

Our legal codes have just failed to keep up with technology.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago
Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

WWTH — I was commenting on the idea that since 4chan can block IPs, they must be traceable. The ethics of gov’n intervention online is definitely more in depth than my quick ToR 101 post could hope to cover! I’m not sure there is a good answer to that one besides sites self policing, but 4chan refuses to and thus we end up with these pea brains making threats for fun.

Binjabreel — oh certainly, I just doubt they’d sift through all that data every time someone is an asshole online, even if limited to threats sorting the actual threats from the braggarts probably makes it impractical. For an anonymous bomb threat followed by an explosion? Oh fuck can they, and will they, trace it. I’m just not sure it can really be used for prevention, maybe with a clear enough threat, but with “don’t go to school in [fairly wide region]” on a board known for its bullshit?

Granted, if they call it terrorism then we have handed them a nearly blank check, so maybe then they’d give every possible threat the packet tracing treatment.

scribbles
scribbles
5 years ago

lol @ these suburban whiteboys complaining that their lives are “hell” because they’re annoying, disgusting, ignorant nerds. If they’d just, you know, stop being pieces of shit their lives would be much better. Instead they’re entitled manbabies who do nothing for themselves.

I don’t think they understand what “a living hell” is really like. Ironically, they tend to make fun of people who do know what actual living hells are like so lol. Their whiny, weak asses are fucking pathetic. These whiny idiot fascists aren’t worth the air they suck into their lungs.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

But….but….they exist and were told how awesome and special with boundless future potential…so gosh darnit they should get to keep on doing whatever the fuck they want with no punishment, limitation, or fear of reprisals!

“Thanks Bush/Obama, this recession took away all the jobs that were keeping the troll army too busy to do this kind of shit” (sarcasm).

Orion
5 years ago

4Chan is like Reddit in that it freely allows horrible people to organize crimes, share illegal content, and generally shitlord around. It’s also like Reddit it is divided into subsections and you only read the ones you like. It is like Reddit in that not only do the shitlords have their own dedicated groups, they are allowed to freely roam the less-shitty groups shitting up the place.

It is also like Reddit in that it is used by huge numbers of people, most of whom are not terrorists or terrorist-sympathizers. We should probably try to discuss it the way we discuss Reddit — call out the site owners for bad behavior, point out the way the site’s structure encourages douchebaggery, and condemn channels like b and r9k. But I think we should make sure not to say “4Chan” when we mean “r9k.”

I have never gone to 4Chan before, so I loaded 4Chan.org a few minutes ago. I saw they had an LGBT channel and decided to check it out. What I saw was pretty shitty, to be sure.Quite shitty indeed actually. But it was nothing like r9k. I saw

–lots of slurs
–a whole bunch of photos and drawings of attractive men; surprisingly few were pornographic
–trans kid asking for advice on Facebook: post an announcement or just change name and pronoun? Some people endorsed both, others suggested quitting Facebook.
–gay man who was raped when 14 saying he found the rapists address, wants t confront him, asks advice. 3 people suggest killing the rapist because 4Chan is awful.
–straight troll asking why gay people have to be so gay
–people complaining that there’s too much trans on the LGBT channel
–people shouting down the complainer
–people asking and advice on how to pay for hormone therapy
–people asking and receiving info about the effects of hormone therapy
–people saying that they’re stopped hormone therapy and are happier without it
–male-assigned person with gender dysmorphia saying they don’t believe in “trans;” they wish they were a woman but don’t think it’s possible for them to “really” be one.
–multiple cis trolls saying trans is just a crazy fad popular with kids these days and will surely go away any day now
–poll asking what people look for in a boyfriend.

Conclusion: 4Chan is a terrible place full of terrible people. Mostly they aren’t nazis, terrorists, or right-wingers. If you had a very strong stomach, you could scroll past the shitlords to see some neat art, and if you asked a question you have about 1/3 odds of getting no answer, troll answers, or actual answers. I can imagine a decent person reading 4Chan regularly and posing occasionally.

I am not trying to take a stance in this post. I’m not saying that 4Chan shouldn’t be regulated, shut down, censored, or monitored. I’m just saying we should get a clear idea of what we’re talking about here.

Ashley
5 years ago

Why does 4chan still exist?

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

Drive-by link drop:

The “Male Suicide Epidemic” http://zite.to/1hmV3O2

Magic
Magic
5 years ago

@Orion

Quite frankly, I don’t give a fuck if there are decent boards. 4chan is shit, it’s always been shit, and it should be condemned even if there are decent boards out there. If there’s a pile of shit with some chocolate scattered throughout it, I’m not going to defend the shit or say “It’s not that bad.” It’s just a bunch of edgy kids that call each other f*ggots and harass other people. By saying, “It’s not that bad”, you’re just contributing to the problem.

I’m sorry if I seem aggressive, but I’m really fucking sick of people trying to defend places like Reddit and 4chan by saying “Just stick to the good places, not everyone’s like that!” No shit everyone’s not like that, stop playing the semantics game. Both are terrible hovels filled with manchildren that should be called out for what they are.

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